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the tools, the skills that you learn as an elected leader to draw out the best in people. >> hats off to the hardball team for that moment. that wraps up this hour of msnbc live. craig melvin will be back tomorrow. andrea mitchell reports starts now. what great hardball town hall that was. right now, a special relationship. president trump weighing into the thick of british politics. attacking the mayor of london and throwing his weight behind a controversial contender. >> i think he's been a not very good mayor. he should be positive, not negative. he's a negative force. i like boris. i've liked him for a long time. i think he would do a jvery goo
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job. ncht t the president said it's likely he will impose those tariffs warning republican senators to try not to stop them. >> i don't think they will do that. if they do, it's foolish. there's nothing more important than borders. i've had tremendous republican support. tens of thousands march through the london rain protesting against the president's visit despite what mr. trump describes. >> there were thousands of people on the streets cheering. even coming over today, there were thousands of people cheering. then i heard there were protesters. i said where are the protesters. good day. president trump attempting a charm offensive in his final joint press conference with out going prime minister teresa may. he was pressed about his relationships with the next wave of british leaders. the thousands of anti-trump
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protesters lining the streets. >> i don't like to take positions in things that i'm not really -- i understand the issue very well. i really predicted what was going to happen. some of you remember that prediction. it was a strong prediction. i think it will happen. i believe the prime minister's brought it to a very good point where something will take place in the not too distant future. >> i remember the president suggested i sued the european union which we didn't do. we went into negotiations and came without a good deal. >> yeah, i would have sued but that's okay. i would have sued and settled maybe. you never know. she's probably a better negotiator than i am. >> joining me now on a rainy day in london, peter alexander.
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welcome. that press conference, he really was on his best behavior. that was a charm offensive on both sides. a stiff upper lip on teresa may's part. stepping down this friday as conservative party leader. peter alexander. >> reporter: i think you're exactly right. that news conference may have been a bit inconsequenkocoincon. it was striking to hear president trump saying she's doing a great job when it comes to brexit. when y last time he was here, just in advance of their meeting he was heavily critical of the way, the strategy, the approach she had taken toward brexit. in an ver view before he ae
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rooifed, president trump said the brits should walk away from the deal. he said basically that they have given away all their leverage to the european union but today only kind words. the two on their best behavior as he indicated there was still room for some deals to be done this morning. he even joked that, hey, maybe you'll stick around and we can get some work done. that's not the way it works in the situation as teresa may knows all too well. >> the president said he didn't see very many protests. he saw a lot of people out there cheering him on. that's partly because he helicoptered most places rather than going through motorcades. the weather is dreary. perhaps more would have turned out. what has been the situation there? >> reporter: so, there's something deeply disturbing about president trump claiming that he saw thousands of people
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here who were celebrating him and welcoming him his awrrivala. he went by helicopter from winfield house, which is not very far. it's a few minute journey to buckingham palace and moving around downtown. downtown london today meeting with teresa may. meeting with british leaders. there weren't thousands of people out there greeting him. there were several thousands protesters. the protests weren't as big as they were a year ago. some people thought will would be a hundred thousands. it was no near that number. perhaps it's the bad weather. for whatever reason, there were thousands of people. they were protesting and not celebrating. the fact he saw that, is it that he really believed it. did he see the people and was
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told, those people down below you are here to welcome you and celebrate you and they love you in this town or is he trying to convince the world that he got this hero's reception in the united kingdom which he clearly did not. the fact that he can say these kind of things with straight face when they are so contradictory to the facts that lots and lots of journalists saw for himself is troubling. >> remember this is the man who talked about thousands of muslims protesting against america after 9/11. something that never happened. the reality frame from the white house has been distorted for quite some time even before he was elected. >> reporter: is it that he believes it or someone who is trying to do a john mccain type uss john mccain situation where people around him are trying to
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present to him a vision that he wants to be true or is he just trying to convince the larger world through social media, press conferences, people who weren't here that's the kind of reception that he got. i don't know if he believes it or trying to convince the world or both. >> it is a conundrum. he did not resist taking on mayor of london. they have been going back and forth. let's play a bit. >> i don't think he should be criticizing a representative of the united states that can do so much good for the united kingdom. if you look at what he said, he hurts the people of this great country. i think he should focus on his job. it would be a lot better if he did that. he could straighten out soft om t -- some of the problems he's caused.
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>> bill, i want you to jump in but i want to play a bit of kahn interviewed. >> i'm not going to resort to responding by name calling. it's a behavior i expect from an 11-year-old, not from a leader, not only the president of the usa. it's for donald trump to decide how he behaves and not for me to respond in like manner. >> how is that being viewed over there, this back and forth with the mayor of london? >> reporter: not well. the first thing donald trump tweeted was when he was on the tarmac at london airport. he started this a long time ago. to be fair, it was kahn who opened this dispute by comparing donald trump to a sort of 21st century facist. it's not good if you land in a country you call a great friend and you immediately throw
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insults at the mayor. it has been throughout this visit a kind of classic donald trump. you get the feeling that really yesterday was the key part of the visit. that visit to buckingham palace and the banquet were the optics that president trump really wanted. he tweeted out a short video this morning of all of that. it was an inconsequential news conference. a bit of a charm offensive. the protests were -- we were led to believe there might be as many as a quarter of a million people out out on the streets protesting donald trump. some of the comments he made about russia were neither here nor there. there was nothing about mueller, for example. what he did do was throw a bit of a hand grenade into domestic
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politics but criticizing the main opposition leader jeremy corbin and saying he didn't know him. corbin was a negative force. he also made comments about the trade deal with the uk saying that everything would be on the table, including britain's national health service. that has not gone down well here because the national health service is a much loved, sacred cow in the idea of american private companies getting involved with and trading inside the national health services. not something that goes down well here. i just got the strong feeling it was really all about yesterday. it was about the pomp and the palace. not today and the politics and be protest. >> i think it was a lot about the state dinner. that's what the family seemed to have been instagraming out. lots of pictures of the way they
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were received last night with all that entailed. peter alexander, let me play what the president did say. this is the president who doesn't go a day without talking about mueller and who has ordered his attorney general to take over declassifying intelligence and said before he left that he was going to raise with teresa may the whole question of what mi-6 might have done to lead into the mueller investigation. let's play this first. i want to you about it. >> we have an incredible intelligence relationship and we will be able to work out any differences. i think we're not going to have -- we did discuss it. i see no limitations.limitation. we'll have no problem with that. >> peter alexander, really smoothing over this intelligence dispute. this is bubbling beneath the surface. >> reporter: yeah, it is a lot of it is the course of the
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president. he was heavily critical of the british intelligence sfrervices accusing them of spying on his campaign. he said they were teaming up with the obama administration. the president, as you heard in those remark, suggesting that they can make an agreement on anything in terms of restrictions on intelligence sharing in case the brits don't go forward with some sort of a similar restriction that the u.s. has put on huawei. the president seemed to express no real concern saying it will happen. it was easy for the president to say what he wanted today. can was speaking to an out going prime minister. this does remain a point of tension between the two sides. >> thank you all so much. coming up, mexican stand off. the president says he's going ahead with those tariffs against mexico despite opposition from his own party and his own
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has mexico done enough to avoid tariffs which will be imposed in some six days from now? >> no, we haven't started yet. >> the threat is out there. >> yeah, the threat is out there. we haven't really started yet. this will take effect next week at 5%. >> president trump today refusing to back down on his
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threat to impose tariffs against mexico next week. despite a storm of friendly fire from the business community and republicans threating to block the plan in congress. >> what do you think of republicans who say that they may take action to block you imposing those tariffs? >> i don't think they will do that. i think it's foolish. there's nothing more important than borders. i've had tremendous republican support. i have a 94% approval rating as of this morning in the republican party. that's an all time record. can you believe that? isn't that something? i love records. >> joining me now msnbc contributor jonathan lemire and robert costa. first to you, robert, the president not backing down on the tariffs. we're seeing some real backbone in the republican senate with a
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threat to try to come up with some way to stop him from doing this without going to congress. >> republicans are uneasy about the president's direction on trade. they also see the president has backed down in his confrontation with canada with regard to the new version of nafta. they see the president still trying to leverage mexico. they are worried about the economic consequences with u.s. goods in the middle of the country, many republican districts. there's that anxiety there. when you talk to top grop officials in the house, they don't see an appetite for the whole party to go wholesale against the president on trade. this is more about the party sending a signal about their concerns. >> sounds to me they are saying please don't do this because he going so much against his own economic add visors with a few exceptions.
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almost no one wants this to happen. the farm community, the auto industry will all be hurt by this. >> republican senators are making the case this is about the livelihood of farmers and also about the livelihood of business owners. there's this idea in the republican party while they don't want to push back on the president and they have stuck with him after scandals and health care and taxes but in this case they feel he's threatening the ability for people to make money across the country and for the constituents he wares about to feed their families. these senators are trying to send a signal than openly push back. the president was pretty clear. he said i have very high republican approval ratings. they should be on my side. they understand i'm the one who is holding the cards here. the president wasn't backing
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down. if the republicans that don't agree, it doesn't matter because i think this is a bigger issue about immigration. the other thing to note is the trump administration hasn't released specific details about what mexico should do. i've been posing that question to the administration officials. are there exact figures that you want border apprehension to go down by. they have not released the numbers. it's questionable what mexico could do for the tariffs no t to be imposed. >> it's spriesi inin ining -- s how the economic skmunts so much against what the president calls his strategy but it seemed not a strategy or policy. it seemed to be an emotional belief in tariffs and not acknowledging that tariffs are taxes on american consumers. >> you're right. the president has had a consistent view on tariffs.
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it doesn't seem clear that he always totally understands how tariffs work. many people around him would get in loud arguments with the president and try to explain these are taxes on the american people and will only hurt the american economy. the president is committed to them, at least for now. he kind of leans back on his two crutches which are immigration and trade. in this case, threatening the r tariffs on mexico. it's true that republicans, very few examples where they have been willing to stand up. he is right about how popular he remains among the republican base. i'm not sure where he got that 94% number from but it's true that most republicans are reluctant to cross him. i also point out with some amusement that teresa not sure what to make of it when the president said, look at this. i like records. i like my approval rating.
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>> just imagine the awkwardness of that moment as well. several audiocasset several awkward moments there today. robert costa, i want to point out something you tweeted out. he is the nemesis of a lot of the leaders in other parties. he's got his own party in the uk. clearly coming to see the president he had come to trump tower during the transition. he's a favorite of the president. he's not meeting with boris johnson probably because boris johnson pushed back against that. it would probably hurt his campaign within the conservative party to become the next party leader and prime minister. nigel is meeting with the president today. >> he is based on that loitreut
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report. how is president trump going to confront and handle the nationalism that's taken hold on many of the parties in the right. not only in the uk but across europe. so far the president who once called himself mr. brexit has signalled he likes boris johnson to replace the prime minister. he's not held a rally for nationalists. that tell mes you about a president who is trying to navigate the may fwovt agovernm a possible trade deal. >> thank you both so much. coming up, stone walled. the white house today blocking more former staffers. hope hicks and others from tu g turning over documents. stay with us. documents stay with us when you shop for your home at wayfair,
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mcgahn not to turn over documents to the house judiciary committee to their time related in the white house. the impeachment issue threatening to tear apart nancy pelosi's democratic committees will hold hearings. the administration is stopping key witnesses from testifying or turning over their notes. do you believe impeachment should proceed. can nancy pelosi hold the line? >> speaker pelosi has a good point about the difficulty of the politics here. my view is simple. this is our constitutional duty.
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there's another term for refusing to comply with subpoenas. it's called breaking the law. our job in congress is to hold this administration accountable because we live in a country where nobody, not have president of the united states, not anyone in the administration is above the law. >> at this stage then you would pursue contempt of congress against all these players, including don mcgahn and hope hicks? >> that's clearly what's going on. we have a system of institution constitutional checks and balances in our government. donald trump wants to throw those out. he wants to throw out the constitution as he has done many times before. it's our job to hold him responsible. i understand there may be political consequences but how about just doing the right thing by the oath we swore to protect and defend the constitution. understand, having hearings, having this debate before congress and the american people is different than voting on impeachment. i'm not saying we should vote
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yet. we don't have facts yet. let's do our job and hold these hearings. >> i want to you about something that you've done which is unprecedented and i would argue very brave is to talk about your own ptsd from your service and your response to that. now you have come up with a policy. i want to talk to you about that. first, what made you decide the come forward? >> you know, i'm applying for the most important leadership job in this country. perhaps the most important job in the world. one of the first principles you learn about leader sl eershi ee by example. i've advocated for mental health for veterans for a long time. i just decided that it was almost disingenuous to continue advocating for this and maybing clear it's an important issue without explaining my own story and how i've dealt with post-traumatic trestress comingt
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of the war and dealt with it proactively in a way that i think has strengthened me as a person. >> are there people who question you on the campaign trail who raise questions about whether you would be reliable. we have seen other candidate s have health issues. would this impede you? >> not at all. i think it's a good thing. unlike any other candidate, i've had to make life or death decisions involving the lives of young americans and live with those consequences. the first time i have to do that again won't be when i'm sitting in the situation room of the white house. i think that going through this experience is strengthened me as a leader and as a person. i hope that it serves as an example to other americans that this is a health issue that you can deal with. you have to take it seriously. you do have to deal it with. like when you get a broken leg, you can recover fkovcover from .
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it's a treatable condition. >> how would you expand the health service? the v.a. is already under such challenges. >> we have a lot to do with just filling existing positions. i got a text from a fellow marine who said for the fooiirs time in his life he felt suicidal. he called the v.a. it took him 48 hours to get through. when we got to talk to someone, they salid he could get an appointment in three weeks. he said i'm thinking about killing myself tonight, not three weeks from now. we have a real problem. we're not going to only fill the positions and double the size of the mental health core but we're just going make this routine. you go to get a physical whether you're sick or not. you should get a mental health check up whether you're sick or not as well. they should talk to you about how you can be mentally stronger by doing meditation.
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i've taken up yoga once a week that is something our elite military units are now practicing because they recognize it improves decision making under stress. it makes them mentally healthier. that should be the policy for the entire united states and i think our troops and veterans can set the pace and lead the way. >> do you agree with pete buttigieg, a fellow veteran running for president, that president trump tried to evade the draft in vietnam with the claim of a bone spur? >> look, i've said this several times before. i think it's interesting to compare the way that donald trump used his father's connections to get out of serving in his generation's war and compare that to john f. kennedy. someone who had health problems but used his fathers connections to get him medically clear so he could deploy for his generation's war. it's such a contrast in leadership. it matters around the globe.
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we're celebrating the anniversary of d day this week. the president is in britain facing widespread protests, facing outright denigration from our most important ally in the world. i mean, the problem is, if we actually had to go to war again, i don't know that the uk would even trust us. there are a lot of members who don't trust trump and his interpretation of intelligence. i don't trust this administration's interpretation of intelligence as they are trying to push to war with iran. the kind of alliance that got us through d day and world war ii, that trusting relationship that roosevelt built with churchill, that doesn't exist in the least today. it matters for national security, it matters for our troops and our future. >> thank you very much. thank you for your service. >> thank you. the contenders are on the road to miami of the first democratic debate of the 2020
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i've heard a lot. when i saw your reporting last night, i just was appalled. >> it's shocking. it's easy to get numb because it seems like one bad story after the other. what this story shows is that this vulnerable population, children, were stuck on vans. some over a day reaching into 39 hours as they waited to be reunified with their children. >> their parents. >> the children wants to be reunified with their parents. it showed us how chaotic the process was to begin with. this is something that came to the attention of officials because the people who were responsible for reunited them said we cannot do this again in is a vulnerable population. we're still seeing children who are coming across the border unaccompanied in situations they should not be in even today.
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>> just think of the personal hygiene issues. think about food. think of the heat. we see children dying in over heated cars when they are locked up in a supermarket shopping parking lot. >> i believe they stayed in the vans because that was the coolest place. they could probably leave them running and have air-conditioning as posopposed being in a parking lot in texas. when they got the parking lots, the 37 children we know about because of the e-mails, they found a pull parking lot whenning there were other children from other facilities waiting to be reunited with parents. the problem was i.c.e. did not prepare for this. the staff workers started clocking out and not facilitating and put the resources in place to match a parent with a child which is a process more complicated than you think. you need to make sure you're signing the right match. sdm do y
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president trump and other world leaders preparing to commemorate the monumental invasion that turned the tide in europe in the second world war. costing lives of 10,000 ally troops. on thursday president trump will speak at the american cemetery in france. following the footsteps of past american presidents following with ronald reagan. >> behind me is a memorial that symbolizes the ranger daggers that were thrust into the tops of these cliffs and before me are the men who put them there. these are t [ applause ] these are the men who took the
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cliffs. these the champions who helped free a continent. these are the heroes who helped end a war. >> joining me now is peggy nu nunan. it's so great to see you. >> wonderful to be here. >> when i think of that speech i think of ronald reagan. i've been back with each president, five years ago with president obama. there's been some wonderful moments. this is the 75th. this is the last time we'll see the few remaining veterans and that speech that ronald reagan gave and delivered and worked on with you was just the most memorable. what was so special about it? >> well, it was the 40th anniversary and it was a time when so much was in contention between europe and the united states with regard to what attitude to take towards the
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so soviet union. i think it was a heightened historical moment. i think president reagan's full heart was in it. my eyes filled with tears a momentum ago when that spontaneous applause broke out. they had been 20 years old or 30 years old, 40 years before and now they were graying fellows. no one had paid attention to them in pretty much in the 40 years that had passed since their great day. those were the men who took the cliffs in, i hate to say, icon, but iconic moment in world war ii. what they gave, by the way, 225 rangers went there that morning at dawn to take those cliffs. pretty quickly they were being fired down upon by german
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soldiers who were launching grenades against them. they got to the top which was amazing enough but about two days of fighting, only 90 of them out of 225 could still bear arms. that day 40 years ago, a bunch of them were there. it just pierced your heart to see. >> the fact that it was an al allied response. you had the canadians and the brits and it was occupied france. then 40 years ago it was the first time the germans participated. it was being together at a time with great disputes over intermediate range missile deploy m ament and the like. we're at a similar time, perhaps the stakes are not as large but we have a president, who unlike ronald reagan, was not trying to work with europe and trying to go -- is trying to go against more than 70 years of post-war
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allied investment in world peace. >> do you make an interesting point. it was it was important back 40 years ago. it was important to reagan to point out the valiant nature of. america was not the only country involved in d-day. and so reagan went out of his way to specifically mention the canadians who took sword beach, the scotts were there. there were a bunch of scotts highlanders who took the beach playing bagpipes. it was just an amazing thing. i'm not sure, as you note, that the mood is utterly the same this year, but we will see. you know, we do these things, commemorations not to lose our sense of our own story. it's important to hold on to and remember your own story as a nation. and there will always be something, i think, very moving
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in that. >> well, peggy noonan, i can't think of anyone i would want to speak to more than you -- >> me too, you. you were there. >> i was impressionable. i was young. and it just, as tom brokaw, who we will be meeting and talking to, that's what persuaded him to -- that's what gave him the eureka moment to write "the greatest generation." >> i know. >> thank you, peggy. thanks so much. >> thank you, andrea. and in from the cold. a woman who hunted terrorists for the cia tells her unique story, taking down one of the world's most wanted men. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports." stay with us on msnbc. on msnbc. it looks real sturdy. -the bed is huge. it has available led cargo area lighting. lights up the entire bed. it even offers a built in 120 volt outlet. wow. plug that in for me. whoa! -holy smokes! -oh wow! and the all new silverado has more trim levels than any other pickup. whoa! oh wow! -very cool. there's something for all of us. absolutely.
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or visit kohlerwalkinbath.com for more info. and turning now to the extraordinary story about a cia officer who left her home in montana, applied for a job at the cia in washington and ended up becoming a targeter in charge of hunting down one of the world's most wanted terrorists during a critical moment in american history. nada's target was al zarqawi. joining me now is nada barkus. it's such an extraordinary tale. tell me, how did you become this hunter of terrorists, including al zarqawi? >> i took a very circuitous route. typically, the cia ends up rep
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electrocuting out of the ivy league colleges or for grad schools, political scientists. my academic background was in economics and i had been living in montana at the time, working in human resources. so i just took a flyer and applied online and i ended up driving cross-country and moving to washington, d.c. and working at the cia until i eventually became an analyst. >> and you say that so calmly, but women have not exactly been welcomed and we have a woman, gina haspel, who was in covert was activity, was london station chief, is now the cia director. i don't know if you worked under or around her, but these people in this group of women who had an extraordinary careers all in secrecy. >> and that's true. and i was on the analyst side to start with, which has much more gender equity than the operations side did. when i did segue over to the operations side, it was very clear that it was still kind of operating in this older, cold
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war paradigm where men mainly held the senior-level positions, so i was really happy to see that gina haspel has the role that she does now. >> tell me about hunting al zarqawi and how you reached those moments where you actually tracked him down, it was your analysis, your intelligence gathering that was able to create the critical strike to take him out. >> well, in the run-up to the iraq war, i was actually part of the team that was charged with evaluating whether or not 9/11 and al qaeda had anything to do with iraq and we judged that they did not. we communicated that to policy makers and to the white house. but as we know, as things unfolded, that was also used as a justification for the invasion. al qaeda was not part of the iraqi regime's plan, so after being an analyst and working in that capacity, i moved to the operations part of the targeting officer and a large part of my
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job was to dismantle al qaeda in iraq, which is the organization al zarqawi ended up building after the invasion. >> how frustrating was it for you to see your analysis distorted politically as the justification for the war? part of the justification, i should say. >> yeah, that was very frustrating for the entire team. we were doing such careful analysis at that point, because it was backwards, it was cart before the horse. we were being asked a question on -- an intelligence question that we had not developed any intelligent assessment or analytical bottom line on, because the intelligence wasn't there. there was not a connection between iraq and 9/11, but the constant questioning from part of the pentagon as well as portions of the white house was incredibly frustrating. and it was frustrating to watch it unfold. and just communication from the white house to media was very frustrating. >> what would be your message to the president, who from day one
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of his presidency, has criticized the intelligence community? >> i think we're in a completely unprecedented place now, where i was dealing with a specific national security issue. now we're talking about criticizing the intelligence community writ large, which i think i this incredibly dangero. i want calls into question the integrity of the people who work there and the integrity of the institution itself and to me that's extremely damaging for national security. >> nada bakos, author of "the targeter," thank you so much for writing this book and can coming forward. i know it's not easy to get clearance from cia and for sticking to it. we really appreciate you. >> thanks. >> that does it for this edition of andrea mitche"andrea mitche." tomorrow and thursday we'll be reporting live from normandy to celebrate the 75th anniversary of d-day. follow the show on line.
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and here's ali velshi. >> i'm really looking forward to watching your coverage from normandy. good luck on assignment and we'll see you later. >> hello, everyone. i'm ali velshi. stephanie is on assignment. it's tuesday, june 4th. right now president trump is in london, but most of his focus is on issues back home, specifically on trade and immigration on the southern border. during his press conference with prime minister theresa may this morning, the president was asked about his new tariff aimed at stemming migration coming from mexico. >> has mexico done enough to avoid tariffs, which will be imposed in some six days from now? >> no, we haven't started yet. >> but the threat is out there? >> the threat is out there, but we haven't really started yet. this will take effect next week. >> and what do you think of republicans who say that they may take action to block you imposing those tariffs? >> i don't think they will do that. i think if they do, it's foolish. there's nothing more important than borders. millions of people are flowing through mexico. that's unacceptable.