that wraps up this hour. let's get to alex witt. good morning. >> i wish people could have listened to our conversation during the commercial break. >> have a good one. thank you so much, morgan. good morning to all of you, from msnbc headquarters in new york. welcome, everyone, to "weekends with alex witt." changing the landscape. who is coming out ahead and who is slipping fast, as a new 2020

poll shows what is resonating with iowa voters. as feuding reaches new heights, are american voters getting frustrated with the gridlock? and a groundbreaking legal question. a deputy charged for what he did not do during the parkland shooting, is on the hook in the courtroom. and new york's most hiiconi hotel. the a ai, tiowa caucus. joe biden is leading the pack with 24%. but his lead has shrunk by three points since march. it ooh a tie for second between three candidates. support for sanders fell 9%, why warren gain eed 6% in that poll.

mayor buttigieg rose the most. only two other candidates polling above 1%. that's amy klobuchar and beto o'rourke. later, 19 candidates will speak at the hall of fame dinner for democrats. good sunday to you, guys. let's get into it here. with your main takeaway from the poll numbers. you have biden leading the pack. support falling a wee bit for him. it's been six weeks since he announced the run. should he be worried? is this a settling in? >> i think it is a settling in to begin with. joe biden is one of the most prominent alumni from the obama administration. president obama and his administration is popular within the democratic party. obviously, he was polling so

high ahead, because of that name recognition. however, we've seen that bernie sanders, another -- he ran in 2016. he was also running on that name recognition swing. elizabeth warren and pete buttigieg have spent quite a bit of time campaigning in iowa. looking at elizabeth warren, i think it's telling. her first priority is to cut into the progressive base that she's competing with bernie sanders over. and bernie sanders should be looking at someone like elizabeth warren, who is laying out detailed policy proposal and start to get worry eied. >> appealing to that level of the party. 13 points buttigieg has gone up. give me your interpretation of

the numbers and why we see the changes. >> mayor's strategy saying yes to every tv request he's gotten is playing to his advantage. this is no longer an election or primary where you go to iowa and new hampshire and you stay over multiple nights every month to try to win over those voters. early caucus voters are listening to podcasts and watching cable channels. if you're on all of the different mediums as much as possible, like mayor pete has been in the last month or two, that's to your advantage. you look at beto o'rourke, he turned down a ton of requests. he's picking them up and that is to his detriment before. >> it is a strategy for mayor pete. he's a locally known guy. this is a national election. it's one thing to get

advertisements and put out statements and write things. but you need the tv audience to get your message out. >> 100%. there was a town hall he did early in the campaign that got a lot of attention. one of his top campaign advisers, liz smith, is a democratic operative. and there's a profile of her in "politico" magazine where her strategy is to get him everywhere. and he had all of the coffees with reporters and drinks with those national reporters. they knew him and were more willing to write about him. >> stick around. i want to get your take on the other top stories. new reporting about the immigration deal hailed by the president and some republicans after it averted the president's threat to impose tariffs on mexico that would begin tomorrow.

"the new york times" reports that the agreement consists of actions that mexico had already promised to take in prior discussions with the united states. "the times" cites officials from both countries familiar with the negotiations. and yesterday, i asked the former foreign minister of mexico whether this was a good deal for his country. >> i think it's a terrible deal for mexico. we're doing the united states' dirty work for it. but if the choice was tariffs or this bad deal, probably this bad deal is better. if you don't do what i want, i will slap tariffs on you. that's what i would call extorti extortion. and the proof of it is that president trump backed off the minute he got most of what he wanted. growing backlash over the trump administration cancelling english classes and recreatio l al programs and aid. and i asked if there was any

chance to work with republicans to find a solution to this. >> i think my colleagues agree that children shouldn't be treated this way. where there's a difference is what to do about it. my colleagues on the other side want to put a stop to immigration. and they want to put a stop to allowing the children who are escaping violence to come to this country. whereas, we believe the law is clear and we're a country of immigrants, where we are here to make sure there's an alternative for people who are escaping violence. >> let's go to the white house. and mike is at his post. good morning to you. new reaction to this "new york times" piece. walk us through what nbc news has learned from the administration. >> good morning, alex. the foreign min steister of mex told you this is a terrible deal for mexico. chuck schumer said the president backed down. and a lot of people are calling this a fig leaf.

what it is that the president negotiated. he was under pressure from lots of allies. there was a revolt by senate republicans who saw their states would suffer economically if this would go forward. the deadline for the president to make that decision was late friday. on late friday, he made the announcement on this deal. and a lot of people are looking at this, including the "new york times" article, and it looks like old wine in new bottles. it appears to be an expansion of existing programs. we have a graphic for you here. the mexican national guard, according to this agreement, will be expanded from 5,400, to 6,000. deployed along the guatemalan border. we understand reporting from

kristen welker have national guard troop s. this is a program that started in january. this is controversial to have them wait in mexico. this would expand the program to require to have mexico have more capability and capacity and allow the united states to have more immigration judges. there's new come poernltkocompo expansion of programs. >> mexico did reject trump's demand to have the immigrants, migrants, apply for asylum in the country, first, right? >> the third state or third-party option, that the administration insisted that mexico have the migrants. and they come from the three central american countries that are so distressed economically

and politically right now, guatemala, el salvador and honduras. it would require them to seek asylum in mexico first, before seeking asylum in the united states. mexico, from the reporting we understand, has rejected and refuses to budge on that. we're left with this agreement. and the administration will keep a close eye on the followthrough here and see if the flow of migrants to the u.s. border to the south is slowed or abated at all. and reserve the right to take action further down the line. for now, that 5% tariff, increasing to 25% in october is off. the president has called it off. he's not going to impose it come june 10th tomorrow. >> the key word, for now. we will see what happens. thank you very much. julie and daniel are back with me now. to you first this time. who is right on this deal? you have democrats criticizing

the president. or is the administration hailing the deal and is it appropriate to do so given the outline, everything that mike showed us and talked about that was reported in "the new york tim " times"? >> well, they won some new concessions from mexico. that shouldn't be discounted. this is a common strategy used among even former administrations, where they packaged stuff that has been agreed to months before. they say, look at this. look what we got. we did not concede anything. and i think if the tariffs had been put in place, then both sides would have found it much harder to save face. and so, i think it's good news for the country we aren't going to hit our economy hard with the tariffs, given that mexico is a big trading partner. and trump's political advisers saw the jobs numbers on friday and saw they were anemic and

that would continue if we had a full-scale trade war with mexico. >> okay. but these -- the gains, the things that donald trump and the administration got, how significant are they? i can ask murray, my director, to put that graphic back up. so, basically, doing the math, only 600 more mexican national guard troops. 1,000 have been deployed. mexico could speed up the deployments. that might help but they just

can't forget that a toariff is tax on a foreign good. and republicans were against that. and i think president trump thought the party has stuck so vehemently behind him throughout his presidency, i think this really caught him offguard. this is a way for the white house to really repackage this deal to make it seem like a victory. you know, and politically, it does -- it's good for him right now, if they can repackage him.

that's ahead of 2020. >> i want to get your reaction on this "washington post" piece. it's talking about the democratic divide on the issue of impeachment. you got the paper interviewing 45 members of the democratic party. splitting them up to three categories in the pelosi camp, those that don't want to touch impeachment. those that are torn about it and those die-hards that want nothing less than impeachment. does this sum up the current state of the party? >> absolutely. i do think there's a lot of division in the party on this issue because i don't think anyone really knows how it will play politically. i think for those in the pelosi camp, they realize that there's the risk of dividing the country. we know the voters are sick of the partisan attitudes. >> daniel, the last word to you,

how long can pelosi hold this line on impeachment? >> she is hoping that the favor will break in the next couple weeks, if congress moves on to other matters. the biggest takeaway from "the washington post" piece, is how those people in the high-hard aspect, category, they're thinking about how their grandkids will view their actions. that encourages them to vote for impeachment or push for it. if they do that and that leads to trump getting a second term, what do they do again? >> thank you so much. infamous flip-flops. joe biden's rejection of the hyde amendment brings back other reversals. will it cost biden like it cost others?

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that right dependent -- >> joining me now, harold raines, executive for "the new york times" and msnbc contributor. you have seen this kind of reversal, a pivot, pretty quickly before. talk about the ones that are most notable in history. >> well, the flip-flop is the most dangerous play in the presidential tactic playbook. so far, biden seems to have made a pretty good choice. but history tells us that the flip-flops in the headlines have long-term effects. i was in the convention hall in detroit in july 1980 when george h.w. bush announced he was abandoning support for the equal rights amendment, and giving up

his lifelong advocacy choice of having abortion. they changed overnight. the retrospect, that launched a 40-year war by the republican party on roe v. wade. >> a short-term gain for h.w. to be the vice president and then the president. but it created a long divide. >> it was a watershed of the republican party. up until that moment, the two previous elections, the equal rights amendment was in the official party. when reagan sealed the nomination, he would not have it. it was out of the party platform. and that opposition of a woman's constitutional right under roe v. wade to choose abortion, was

now officially opposed by the republican party. >> put this in perspective with joe biden. he's been in office for four decades. he's had an evolution on positions as society e solvolve. can that be applied to portioab? it's always been controversial. i don't know if that's evolved so much. put this in perspective. >> joe biden, the price he paid, the daily beast has a headline that says flip-flopper. there's a cost of changing. the read my lips pledge by

george h.w. bush was costly to him. joe biden is it's playing into that part of his image. she felt, as his advisers, his continuing to support the hyde amea amendment, killed his chances of being the nominee. i think he's probably right about that. the other thing we have to watch play out, is signaling his misgivings about abortion, he may have picked up conservative support. despite his official change in position. we know he's an older person. he's a roman catholic. he was once doubtful about abortion as a medical practice.

we're going to give him latitude on that. >> weigh in on the speaker of the house and nancy pelosi. the rhetoric is one thing. what do you think this belies underneath? >> it's a fascinating moment in politics, given clinton and her experience. but moving on to this moment, i think what people are missing about nancy pelosi, is she is slow walking the advocates for impeachment in her own caucus, because she believes that her long impeachment fight would cost the democrats a good chance of winning the 2020 election. i think that's her game. i don't think she has kindness in her heart for trump. that said, she is trying to keep a stopper in the pressure cooker

because she thinks it is in the long-term interests of the democratic party to defeat trump at the polls, rather than divide the majority. as for there's no chemistry, look. trump does not pay the normal prices for bad behavior, bad language, bad manners. his denounceuations of pelosi fires up his base. and she's such a strong thinker about public policy, i don't think it hurts her that much. >> i know it helps us to have you here. new questions about the charges of the parkland security officer who stayed outside during that shooting. because the charges are so unusual, will prosecutors have a difficult time making them stick?

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race. a former sheriff deputy is faces charges for what officials are calling child neglem neglect at parkla parkland, florida. the follows an investigation that shows he retreated during the active shooter threat. katie phang and ashley merchant. ashley, you first here. under florida law, does inaction result in criminal negligence and libltd? he is facing 100 years. >> it's rare not doing something subjects you to a punishment. you have a child, because that child is helpless.

you have to feet that child and make sure there's appropriate medical care. we have a police officer, they're trying to transpose to be a caregiver for those children. it's hard to prove he was a caregiver for these children. that's what they have to show. >> that is the pivot at word here. how do prosecutors prove his inaction is a caregiver. he was the only armed person on that campus that fateful day, february 14th, last year. as a result, he actually had the criminal responsibility to have

to go into that school and protect those children. his defense attorney will file a motion to dismiss. the judge has the parkland shooter's case. the defense attorney has to file a motion to state that the prosecution cannot meet the elements of a crime. at a minimum, the charges of mild me flekt could stick. >> what do defense attorneys have to do? this does not apply to a resource officer. >> yes. what they're actual responsibility was. and if he responded appropriately to that

responsibility. they have to try to distance him from the actual shooting and what happened in the school. we've had reports that a lot of folks have asked for transfers. police officers have asked for transfers because this is an aweso awesome responsibility. they're concerned where it ends. where does it end? if the officer doesn't know about the fight, will they be charged for neglect? >> i mentioned the teachers, katie. with the new legislation, it allows teachers to arm themselves with guns at school. how does this change the level of liability now? >> you have teachers that can arm themselves in the classroom. that gives concerns in terms of

the uniform application of the thoughtfulness and the reasonableness of an armed teacher being in a classroom. and there's a heightened responsibility and exposure of a teacher who armed him or herself. was it reasonable action taken by the teacher to break up a fight? when you have the active incidents, you create this legislation. and you're going to state-to-state. do you have the appropriate training and experience as a teacher. cool resource officer, armed, trained as a cop. you have to make an effort. does a teacher have the raining

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congress, whether there is common ground. here's part of that exchange. are the republicans with whom you can work in congress? forget the president at this point. are there things you can do to ensure the safety of the kids? of the migrants that are put into terrible conditions, harmful conditions like the ones you described there? do you get a sense that your colleagues agree with what you're saying? >> i think where the difference is, what to do about it. my colleagues want to put a stop to immigration and they want to put a stop to allowing the children who are escaping violence to come to this country. >> let's talk to john darling.

hey, guys. good morning to you. bishop, i'm curious what you're hearing from americans, how they view all this feuding, the diverging messages. the gridlock in washington. >> thank you for the question. i'm getting a little bit of feedback. that's distracting. the american people care about a great deal. all of the policies that will help us have some type of humanitarian aspects, empathy to what needs to happen. with these migrants, and having a good understanding of what congress can do and the bipartisan efforts that congressmen will actually have across the border is incredibly important. they want to see action. they want to see something that is actually going to change

what's happening across the board. and right now, they're not seeing it. >> can you tell me how frustrated the americans are, in congress, to get things done generally speaking? >> i would say 11. you look at the poll numbers of congress, they're always low. i think part of it is because congress has not been doing very much for a long period of time. we have not seen republicans and democrats sit down together and work out their differences. both parties share quite a bit of blame for this. >> do you agree? about an 11 in terms of frustration? >> i would agree with that. thank you. >> let's stop right there because you agreed on something.

do you think it is by hesitation to give the president and the republicans a win? to some degree. you're seeing a lot of members in congress having issues to determine how to move forward from that. every day, the president says or does something new that is against a lot of ideas of what we've had from the presidency in our society today. and it's causing problems for congressmen and women to understand how they should move forward with a lot of the different issues. he changes his mind across the board, through a tweet. how do you legislate from that type of leadership? >> that's a challenge, for sure. why when it comes to the republicans, they can agree that democrats don't want to give them a political victory.

but aren't there those democrats, who are looking for political victory in siding with the president. they don't always agree with either his ideology or his tactics. >> it's tough. you look at -- i don't think democrats want to give him a victory in anything, no matter what. there's a few democrats and republicans working together in issues. they are trying to get inf infrastructure across the finish line. there's some issues with cannabis reform. there's some issues where there is common ground. but the problem, they aren't going to get to the president's desk. you have the democrats in the house. investigations, impeachment investigations. and then, the senate is not going to pass anything that comes over from the white house that is deemed partisan. and gridlock. you have a situation where congress isn't going to do anything. and the only way it's going to be resolved is if the american people make a change one way or

another. >> i wonder if that involves mitch mcconnell. heading into 2020, democrats are casting a lot of blame on mcconnell. this is according to an article in "the hill. "democrats hope to portray the gop as the interest in governing and expense of the middle class. how damaging can this be? >> well, we hit on mitch mcconnell last week, as well. saying a lot of what he's done, is just mondbeyond the pail. it's going to be a great part of his legacy. i don't think we get anything done or accomplished within the senate until we have leadership. >> your comment?

>> nancy pelosi wants to see the president locked up in jail. i don't think either party will reach across the aisle to get something done. this will be solved by the american people. right now, if you look at the house and the senate and we have the same mix of the house and the senate going into the next year, nothing will happen. >> the speaker isn't actually calling for impeachment. she doesn't want to deal with that. what we've seen from mitch mcconnell is actionable actions that has created gridlock here in d.c. you have a house that's passed more bills. >> they know they're not going to pass these extreme policies. >> that's not on the house.

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youwith washboardg to be tglutes.t bunny i'm not even sure what glutes are but... mine are gonna be shredded. mmhm, that was weird. oh sister it's gonna get way weirder. to a new book that spills the details on a hotel that donald trump paid $390 million to acquire. you can see the hotel in the background from his office at trump tower. after he bought it, he was the only owner to ever bankrupt it. the hotel is the plaza. and the book tells all about the secret life of america's most famous hotel. julie is the author here.

how did this hotel become the most famous? it's always been the most famous hotel. it was built for $12.5 million, the most expensive ever. its first guest was one of the country's wealthiest men. elites, some of them you named here. and the chaos around the beatles who stayed there. capote's black and white ball. this is how new york's 1% lived back in the day. the plaza is a mirror of what has reflected in new york city and across the country. it's a perfect lens to tell the

social history of all of these events. "the new york times" compared the plaza with how he ran his campaign. he agreed to a high price and went into bankruptcy. the man who convinced him to pay more than it's worth remains his friend. >> it was a fascinating time. it was 1988. he was at the top of his game as the real estate golden boy. he paid almost $500,000 per hotel room. that's a record. he borrowed the entire sum from the banks. he put his wife in charge. she did a great job. she was an exacting owner. she would get down on her hands and knees and tell the maids how

to make the bed. trump had such a bad deal, he couldn't compete with the debt. >> you talk about the glamorous and the balls. isn't there a murder? everyone thinks they know the plaza. when the hotel was under construction, the ironworkers through the body of a security guard off of the unfinished eighth floor and nearly killed two other guys while it was being built. >> there's that. on the different end of the spectrum, weddings.

>> like so many people, i have fond memories of the plaza. i grew up in new york. i was married there. the history is unprecedented. how it stands right now where does it stand? >> it had rough going until recent nears. the owner spent time in prison. >> wasn't he running the plaza from prison? >> yeah. from maximum prison in deli, he was running the plaza. he is not allowed to leave india. and he is trying to pay down billions of dollars to the court there's. about a year ago, the country of qatar bought the hotel. they own it.

even though the hotel isn't what it was. s this not a lot of places to eat, but the food court in the basement. now, the new owners may be putting some money into it. i heard there's a movement to open some of the historic restaurants. we'll see what happens with the plaza. with can get a look at what has happened here. thank you for joining us. >> thank you so much. new proposals. will it make any difference in the democrats' standing in the polls let's be honest.

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