that does it for me this week. join us back next saturday and sunday. you can reach out to me on social media. i turn oifit over to reverend a sharpton and "politics nation." good evening. welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, what is the truth? president trump is once again bending facts as his administration is defending the immigration agreement that ended the threat of tariffs on mexico. there is new reporting from the new york times that most of the deal came together months before it was announced friday. the agreement, quote, consists largely of actions that mexico had already promised to take in prior discussions with the united states.

despite the deal being celebrated by the trump administration, there's still quote, deep skepticism. whether mexico will do enough and it will reduce the flow of migrants across the border. was the mt. trying to save face over bad policy or was this a big show, once again, to make president trump seem like america's savior. joining me former aide for george h.w. bush, joe watkins and david brock. which is it, david? was the republicans put pressure because it hurts their

re-election as well as the economy or was this trump rolling something out to make himself look good because with all of his tough talk and promises during the campaign, the number of people are going upcoming over the border and he's going into a re-election not being able to say he did anything to stem the tide which is one of the things he promised. >> that's right. i think it's government by conflict and conflict for its own sake. we have seen him make these threats and the threats don't come to good policy. you can't find a republican senator to agree with it. it's bad policy and it's bad politics. you're increasingly seeing workers are hurt by this.

almost half of americans think the trade policies are bad. it's bad policy, bad politics. what really explains it, i was struck by two comments earlier today. one by michael wolf who threw up his hands and said at tehe end f the day trump is a madman. a white house correspondent quoted a senior official saying trump was insane. i think this makes no sense. >> madman, insane. let me go to you joe watkins. the fact is the product has been conducting foreign policy and for that matter domestic policy similar to how he ran his business. bluff, try to push and intimidate and back off because he operates like a bully. when you keep doing this, it loses its impact. how long can he keep trying before countries say he'll back

down and wait until the end and know he will cut a deal to save face. >> it will be much better if the president listened to some of the people around him. president's hire people to have expertise in these areas to provide them with all kinds of great information and advice. nobody thought raising tariffs was a good idea. every economists i've said said you would have a disasterous impact on the committeconomy an wasn't a good thing. i'm sure there were people inside the white house saying the same thing which is why you saw a hastty agreement signed. this is not the way it should be done. it doesn't allow for negative surprise which is what tariffs would have been.

that would be a more perfect way to run the country. >> in some reports he made the decision while he was in japan some of the white house senior staff doesn't know he was going to do this. sdm right. >> it's an incomptent administration. we'll need a democratic administration to solve this problem. aide works for the humanitarian and moral crisis we had under president obama where we saw the migration go down when aid was add minist administered to el salvador. he won because of that but the protectionism doesn't work.

we also have to factor in and i think he alluded to it that these people are running from something. they are running from poverty. they are running from the kind of gang violence and other things. what is missing is any regard of why they are risking everything coming up and how humanitarian aid, ie the obama administration helps to deal with things that they are running from. they are not saying i want to run to america for a job. they are running from real problems. >> i remember during the obama administration, senator mcccain started to work on what would have been very thoughtful immigration policy. people come here from other

countries for a better life and because they may be running from something. america has always been the place where people come because this is a great country and a great welcoming country. many are sad to see that cease. it's humane and fair and gets the job done. >> in that light, it is not even charitable. it's in our interest to give humanitarian aid as part of our stemming the tide of migrants coming across the border that we're trying to stem in terms of coming to the country. it's stra teetegic as well as t right thing to do. >> we have democrats that have proposals to solve the immigration problem. particularly the two candidates from texas that are most

affected by this. you can have both. you can have a strategic policy that deals with the moral aspect but there's a real national security issue. mie grgration is increasing. it's not decreasing. what we have here is bluster and a phony deal and the fork timne times exposed that today. >> we have seen throughout the two and a half years or more that mr. trump had been the president. a white house that does not seem to have a coordinated strategy or even coordinated con vversatn on what the president is going to do, governing by twitter. how do you run a country when even your closest senior aids have no idea what the president is going to do in the next

moment? it has grave consequences for people in this country. >> it does. it makes it difficult for members of the white house staff. i know that they are able to provide valuable insight. if the president listens they may work with other constituencies to make this happen. if the president isn't listening, it makes it difficult to have credibility when they try to fashion a deal outside the white house. >> isn't it also making this country more and more isolated when you look at he's picked a fight now with china. he's picked a fight now in terms of what's going on in england with his whole position with brexit. he's attacked the u.n.

>> he's attacking allies with these tariffs. i think thaps a big mistake. he's really hurting our alliances. >> a global economy and global communications now in the world given social media and all, he's doing it at a time where you can't get away without the whole world knowing what you're doing. >> everybody knows instantly. communications are instant. everybody knows. >> everybody knows. i want you to stick around. we'll have more with joe and david later in the show. coming up, the fight over

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the impeachment of president trump is getting louder by the day. all told there's more than 60 house members, including half of the democrats on the judiciary committee who want to start the proceedings. house speaker nancy pelosi, however, is not one of them. she has been holding her ground urging colleagues to be patient. though she said she would prefer to see the president in prison than see him impeached. joining me is the assistant speaker of the house and announced he is running for senate in 2020. thank you for joining us, congressman. let me ask you, the noises of calling for impeachment is louder. 60 said they would vote in the house. you need more than three times that, i guess.

where do you see it at this point? >> well, it's an honor to be with you today. i also am proud to be working ie long side speaker nancy pelosi along be importance of our constitutional oversight responsibilities. next week there will be important action that will be taken. the judiciary committee will have a hearing with former prosecutors. on tuesday there will be a vote on the house floor holding the attorney general, mr. barr in contempt as well as mr. mcgahn. t there will be important language included in that vote to give additional subpoena authorities to the chairmen and women and wednesday the intelligence committee will continue with important investigations surrounding the mueller report as well. again, we have to make sure we're getting to the bottom of getting answers to all of these questions and presenting the facts to the american people while we carry out our

constitutional oversight responsibilities. >> let's go to what you mention about tuesday. the vote to hold barr and mcgahn in contempt, what is the basis of the contempt and do you think that the vote will carry? >> i absolutely believe that the vote will carry. i'm hoping that we'll have republicans join us although i'm not that optimistic right now. the importance of this vote is holding not just the attorney general and mr. mcgahn in contempt for one misleading and i would say lying to the congress and also not fully cooperating with our subpoenas. making information available which we have continued to see from one appointee or former appointees from the trump administration day after day which is why you'll also see the importance of that language that i said earlier to provide expanded subpoena authorities to the chairs of the committees or jurisdiction. >> yesterday i had congressman al green on the show. i want to get your reaction to his comments about the impact of

impeachment. take a listen. >> there are many people who are not aware that impeachment means the house act. many people understand the senate has a trial but we understand that impeachment does not go away by virtue of the senate making one way or the other. the president will have been inpeach i inimpeached. bill clinton was impeached and mr. gore did not get elected. impeachment carries a stain. >> will there be a stain if there's an impeachment that doesn't succeed in the senate or is it more, in your opinion, is it more appropriate and is it more desirable to get the facts and build up a case that leads toward impeachment and puts the senate really in a very

difficult position not to convict if the evidence is there of high crimes and disdemeanors. >> al green is a good friend of mine. he's an incredible member of congress out of the state of texas. where i agree with mr. green is we have to carry our constitutional oversight responsibilities. i have been working with speaker pelosi to make sure we're able to get to the bottom of each and every one of these questions and present the facts to the american people. they want to make sure they get the evidence. they get the answer to the questions before they ask them. again, understanding that an impeachment is an indictment and there still is a proceeding in the u.s. senate as well. the house of representatives must take its constitutional oversight responsibilities seriously and move forward with these investigations which, again, the actions that will be taken place this week are a step

in the direction from additional focus on the importance of these investigations. >> i've known donald trump for over 30 years. mostly in bad situations, marching, arguing, debating him and i've known speaker pelosi. it seems to me she gets under his skin. there's something about her that he unravels every time she meets with him. every time there's a back and forward. you work very closely with her, you're assistant speaker. is that not your feeling that nancy pelosi, who is a lot smarter than people think, as a smart woman, it's something that this president has a hard time dealing with? >> well, i think that president dona donald trump knows that nancy pelosi is smarter than him and out maneuvers him.

i don't know if he plays chess or checkers but she's always three moves ahead of the president. i think that's something he does not have an answer too which is why he gets so frustrated. how frustrated would anyone be if you were outsmarted every day as you were proceeding and that's exactly what happens with speaker nancy pelosi. >> you're running for senate in new mexico. why have you opted as the man that has senior power in the house to two from the house and take shot at being u.s. senator from new mexico? >> i had the honor of serving as chair of the democratic congressional campaign committee that lead the effort of speaker pelosi to win back the majority. we elected more women and have the most diverse caucus and passed important piece of legislation. the paycheck fairness act. the first time in 25 years to pass a piece of legislation to address gun violence. the quality act moving policies that will lower health care cost

and prescription drug pricing as well as posimportant policies t address climate change. all of this is going to die where mitch mcconnell has dubbed himself as the grim reaper. it's been an honor to serve the people. i passed legislation with my republican colleagues. that's why i'm asking the people to entrust me with this important responsibility. i'm running to make sure we flip the senate in 2020. we get the majority back there but able to pass meaningful legislation that will make a positive difference in the lives of people all across america but right here in the home state i'm proud to be born and raised in in new mexico. >> before we let you go, again, you're saying this week, there's a calendar full of very important moves toward what can lead to finding the evidence

that could become necessary to lead toward impeachment from monday, tuesday, on. you're saying this week is chock full of real movement toward getting to the bottom of what's going on with this president and with the mueller report? >> the action that will be taking place this week with our constitutional oversight responsibilities continuing the investigations, monday the judiciary committee will hear from former prosecutors. tuesday there will be a vote on contempt with attorney general barr as well as mcgahn including language to expand those subpoena authorities to our chairs and wednesday as well. the intelligence committee under chairman adam schiff will be leading an investigation with additional information surrounding the mueller report as well. again, you're seeing the action led by speaker pelosi in the house of representatives. not just in committee but on the house floor this next week. >> all right.

thank you for being with us. coming up, a new mini series is re-igniting the debate about the central park five case and the controversial role of the prosecutors who threw them in jail. how she's now impacted some 30 years after the case was closed, when we come back. years after the case was closed, when we come back.

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now for this week's gotcha. if you have any kind of social media presence, you might not be surprised by this week's subject. former new york city prosecutor i linda fairstein not having a great week. she was dropped by a book publisher and resign frdsed fro charitable organizations. the new netflix mini series is retelling the villainous role in the 1989 case of the central park five. it details the lengths to which she went to destroy the lives of five black and brown teenagers wrongfully accused and convicted

in the sexual assault of a white woman. only later to be found innocent after years of incarceration. i watched her get praised as a law enforcement hero but we in the community saw her as a symbol for a racist predatory justice system. as you can imagine, she didn't like that. listen to what she told abc 20/20 show about yours truly. >> pretty intense. there were always protesters. >> lying devil. >> racist dog. >> al sharpton had rallied a lot of people on behalf of the five. >> no justice. >> no peace. >> no justice. >> there was always a line of people trying to get into the courtroom. >> now, let me tell you what's wrong with her approach. rather than try and act like we were doing something wrong, we were standing up for young men

we felt were innocent that were proven late tor to be innocent. even the semen at the scene of this vicious rape didn't match any of those five young men. it wasn't just me. it was other activists as well that took abuse and attacks. it was ads by donald trump calling for them to get the death penalty. we have an obligation. those of us that believe in civil and human rights to stand up even if it's unpopular and when it is proven that we're right, say we're right. you never would and president trump is saying to this day, he doesn't believe the evidence. he believes there shouldn't have been a settlement. some of those youngsters lost their youth. one young man served 13 years in jail because he was tried as an adult. when he got out, he couldn't get

a job so we hired him at national action network. life crushed for something he didn't do. even this brilliant director thanked us on a tweet for standing up for him. i appreciate that for her. i'm even more appreciate what she has done 30 years later to tell the story of these five boys and the families that suffered at the hands of prosecutors that would not follow the evidence but was playing to a public out rage that was unfounded in the case of these five boys but should have dealt with that vicious rape but dealt to it where you got the right people and the right person. i don't care even if it is 30 years later, i gotcha. we'll be back after the break. . we'll be back after the break. the visionary lexus nx. lease the 2019 nx 300 for $359/month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.

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four years ago there were only two of us in the race. we spent the vote about 50% each. this time we have a whole lot of candidates and i don't think anybody will reach 50%. >> 50%. even getting to double digits is hard for a field of more than 20 candidates. a new iowa poll shows joe biden leading the pact but take a look at those numbers. he and second place bernie sanders have lost some ground since march. elizabeth warren and mayor pete are making gains. closing the gap.

then there is 16 candidates who are polling at 1% or less. we know who the president is most worried about. trump is holding a campaign event in iowa on tuesday. the same day as the former vice president. all of this comes just over two weeks before the first democratic debate hosted by nbc. so far 20 of the 24 candidates have met the requirements to participate. back with me former aid for george h.w. bush administration, joe watkins and american bridge 21st century chairman david brock. joe watkin, it seems the president by his tweets and his attacks and going to iowa this week, is pretty much concerned about joe biden.

it seems biden is holding a lead. why do you think the president is unnerved by joe biden? >> his numbers are strong. you look at his capacity to not only win his base but like wise delve into the republican base some. certainly non-college educated whites. all groups that are some of the groups that have very loyal to the president and republicans are groups that joe biden has the capacity to reach. he's going to get good support if he's the nominee from african-americans and he'll get good support from independents and he's also get supports from some republicans. the president is wise to be in iowa to try to counter him because joe biden, if he gets stronger in iowa becomes a real threat. he has a real shot to win the nomination and is the nominee, he's very powerful. >> david, one of the things i've heard a lot of concern about is

whether or not with 24 candidates they start attacking each other or attacking the front-runners like biden or the others that are in the top tier. what happens if we end up with a lot of counter attacks in the democratic primaries and the debates? >> it depends on the kind of attacks. i think there's legitimate concern. i think the policy attacks are fair game. if it should get personal, that's where you're going to have a real problem. there is concern that there's going to be focus in these debates. some have said it will be like biden is on stage both nights because biden is the strongest in the polls now. there will be a lot of people trained on him. senator sanders is already trained on him. this poll shows that maybe senator sanders should be concern o concern concerned about elizabeth warren. her in your opinions anumbers a.

some clinton supporters feel that some of the more personal attacks of sanders transferred over and gave trump a winning hand in november. we have to be careful about this. >> you can't count out kamala harris has remained steady throughout all these polls. >> absolutely. her numbers are unchanged. you can't discount she's been steady and strong from the beginning. she had a very impressive roll out. trump said her roll out was the best he's seen. >> he always like the show. she had over 20,000 people. >> she will do well in south carolina and california. if she can do well enough in iowa and new hampshire to still be in hunt, she has a good shot of being in position for the nomination. >> david, you mentioned 16. one of the things that was not

there in 16 is that most people believe that donald trump was not going to win. >> right. >> this time he is the president. will getting rid of donald trump override anybody wanting to get behind candidates that become divisive because they will say don't start taking shots at each other. we have to get rid of donald trump if it's a democratic vote. is that danger to become the one to start attacking and you look to hard core democratic voters getting angry at you because they are saying that the goal must be to take donald trump out the white house. >> democratic voters will not like that. i think they have to have legitimate policy disagreements. there are some disagreements. we saw this week joe biden changes position on the hyde amendment.

elizabeth warren has been a very strong candidate. we know why shooe running. if she is stay on the message and policy, democratic voters will reward that, i think. >> i've withbeen one to change democratic party to not take african-americans and latinos for granted. when you have an inckucumbent president whose policy is what do you have to lose for voting for me and showed us what we have to lose is a difficult thing to press on certain levels because all of the democratic candidates have at least addressed some of the issues.

it's a difficult political walk. >> i heard you talking about that the other day. i thought that was very well said. it's great for neither party to take the vote of african-americans for granted. african-americans will vote in overwhelming numbers with the democrats and whoever the nominee is. african-americans may be more excited about some nominees than others. clearly excited about joe biden, about kamala harris, cory booker and some others. >> i think we're like any other voters. we're excited about who is vat kpoo -- excited about us. >> that's right. it has to be that work. we're going to see that play out. we're going to see it in iowa where it's caucus state. we're going to know a lot more

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trump then even signed an executive order increasing federal funding for those schools saying the move would be quote, an absolute priority for the white house. they are struggling with funding, low enrollment numbers and some are at risk of losing their accreditation. joining me is glenda glover. the first responsibility of a president of a college is to keep it functioning and keep it funded. i'm not going to ask you to become a political analyst or critic of the president but give me a status of where hbcus are now in this particular time in

2019 after we were told it would be a priority in the country. have you seen, across the board, i know tennessee state appeared to be functioning very well under your leadership but hbcus in general, what are the state of affairs? >> thank you for the opportunity to have this discussion. we did meet at the white house. we generally meet with members of congress. many of us have formed our own individual relationship with members of congress. we meet with various departments. we have gone a route where the model is not depend on what's happening at the white house but more about how to set up

relationships and partnerships with the various departments. u with the administration. no. now, has there been a serious increase in funds. what robert smith did was put it front and center. and another way the billionaire who said he was going to pay the student debts at morehouse. but have you seen as much as you would like to see in terms of increase in resources through the various meetings and alliances you say are being made? >> there has been some increases but more can be done. we're looking for more and more to be done. we're not just depending on the federal level. we are the state level. we have the alumni. we have the corporations that we're forming partnerships and

collaborations with. we're looking at various other revenue enhancement sources. for example, at tennessee state university, companies that are moving to nashville like amazon and apple and the various financial institutions, 53rd bank, board of directors, we're making public-private partnerships, meeting with them to ensure we can develop a sustainability model to keep us going despite the fact the federal funding may not be where it needs to be. >> for people that don't know, why are historic black colleges necessary? what role do they play? and what do they do that is distinct and unique that you will not get at other institutions? >> well, historically black colleges and universitys were established after the civil war to educate the newly freed slaves. from there many schools have gotten started and we've grown and survived and thrived.

this country could not achieve its mission without the contributions of hbcus. we're only 4% of all the colleges and universitys in the countries. however we educate and graduate 21% of the students. so, we're number one in graduate -- 40% of the students that graduate in stem fields go to hbcus and 48% at the graduate level, 50% educators, 60% of those in health care fields. so, our contributions are there and we're significant with our contributions. and we don't shy away from it. our main problem is that we have to spend the first part of every conversation justifying who we are, defending why we exist, and trying to determine, make others see the value of hbcus. no other institution has to do that but hbcus. it's unfortunate that we have to do it that way, but that's where we are in america.

>> you serve also as international president of kappa alpha sorority. tell us how you have made sustaining hbcus a priority of your administration as president of this outstanding sorority. >> action the. i asked president of aka, tennessee state first, i see firsthand the financial needs of students of the institutions. so, i was compelled as president to make one of the program targets how to ensure sustainability of hbcus. they need funding. they need top-quality students to attend hbcus. that being the case, we make sure hbcu day in october, we declared a day to raise money for hbcus and we raised $1.3 million in that day just from membership alone. in black history month, we gave

out $50,000 to one-third of black colleges. we want to make sure sustainability models are in place. that's money we gave to hbcus to give raise and distribute $10 million to start endowment at each four-year hbcu, the endowments represent sustainability. that's the call to action, hbcu for life call to action. >> that's black women standing up. people talk about new for self. you can't get a better example what aka is doing for hbcus. glenda glover, thank you. >> thank you uch have. >> coming up, miey final though. y s no matter when you retire, ensure you still have income every month of your retirement, guaranteed. see how lincoln can help. ♪

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aww! super star actress is trying to eradicate the stigma surrounding mental health in the black community. she spent friday on capitol hill urging members of the congressional black caucus to join her in talking openly about mental health and getting people the help they need. this famous radio personality has been talking about it for a while. it is something we need to deal with in the black community, given the stress, given the strain, given just natural reasons, mental health is a problem that we have to deal with.

yes, there are many that say don't talk about it. there are many of our members of our community that act as though this is something that will go away by itself. it will not. there's no shame in talking about it. the shame is when we don't talk about it, when we don't deal with it, when we don't help people get through their mental health situations and problems that we -- that are supposed to be a little better because we all have issues, but we that are better should understand that we can embrace them and healing them and helping them makes the community stronger and the nation stronger. so, let's rally with these stars that have put their celebrity on the line to bring out of the closet people that have been hiding in the margins because they didn't want to be ridiculed, because they need help and they need it from those of us who are not that far apart

ourselves. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next saturday at 5:00 p.m. eastern. up next, town hall with senator elizabeth warren moderated by my colleague, chris hayes. ♪ >> there's something happening with elizabeth warren. >> elizabeth warren's popularity is gaining in the polls nationally. >> in a field full of candidates, she's the one with a plan for everything. >> i've got a plan for that. >> but does she have a plan to win in the places that won donald trump. live from fort wayne, indiana