this morning president trump and members of his administration are defending dee new trade deal with mexico. trump claims it is a big win but critics are questioning what's new. >> information vice president joe biden's 2020 campaign struggles to find an answer on abortion despite being pressed on the issue. lessons from the mueller report. the judiciary committee will hold a hearing today on the special counsel's russia probe featuring former nixon counsel john dean. good monday morning to you. it is monday, june 10th. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside nbc white house correspondent jeff bennett. we're starting with the united states and mexico reaching an

agreement on migration that averts the implementation of president trump's tariffs on mexican goods. president trump took to twitter friday night to announce the deal under which mexico will deploy 6,000 national guard troops throughout the country, mainly to its southern border with guatemala. it expands a program called migrant protection protocols which allows u.s. immigration enforcement officials to send central american migrants to mexico. they will offer those migrant, jobs, health care and education. the agreement doesn't include a demand that mexico agree to a safe third country designation which would have required the country to permanently accept most asylum seekers from central america. despite president trump touting the agreement as a new deal just how new the terms are, that's up for debate. the "new york times" reports that mexico had previously agreed to deploy its national guard during high level secret

talks back in march, according to officials from both countries who are familiar with the negotiations. a senior administration official tells nbc news that some key elements of the deal had been agreed to months ago but added the two sides had agreed to expand on some of the previous commitments. the official noted mexico's agreement to deploy troops was larger up by 400. npr said full operations won't be up and running until 2021. the migration protocols program that allows asylum seekers to remain in mexico while their cases proceed in the u.s. that was reached and announced back in december by then homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen. a federal judge blocked the implementation of that program in april but an appeals court said it could go forward. the president has taken to twitter to dispute reports that

parts of the deal with mexico are not actually new. in a series of tweets yesterday, trump calls the reports false and those who made them are quote the enemy of the people and embarrassed. however, trump does say that his administration quote has been trying to get some of these border actions for a long time but were not able to get them or get them in fulfill our signed agreement with mexico. the president also says quote some things not mentioned in the press release were agreed upon. now there will being a great cooperation between mexico and the united states something that didn't exist for decades before threatening to impose tariffs. >> the president is weighing whether to slap china with more tariffs as the two sides prepare to come together later this month. speaking with cnbc, treasury secretary steve mnuchkin said the president will decide after meeting with xi jinping in japan

later this month. >> if china wants to move forward with the deal, we're prepared to move forward on the terms we've done. if china doesn't want to move forward then president trump is perfectly happy to move forward with tariffs to rebalance the relationship. we're going to need to see action and president trump is going to need to make sure he's clear that we're moving in the right direction to a deal. >> mnuchkin also says the u.s. and china were close to striking a deal during previous talks, saying negotiations were almost 90% done. but he says that china wanted to go backwards on certain things and that the two sides have quote stopped negotiating. joe biden's presidential campaign is not ready to say where the former vice president currently stands on past positions related to abortion restrictions. last week biden dropped his long standing opposition to federal funding for abortions due to what he said an unprecedented

attack on abortion rights but followed the blow back from an nbc report in which his campaign affirmed biden was still in favor of the restriction. biden deputy campaign manager would not say whether the new circumstances affect other positions biden has held. watch this. >> does he now support a litmus test for a supreme court justice on the issue of abortion? will he ask a potential supreme court justice how he'll vote on roe v wade. >> i won't get out ahead of the vice president. i think he's been very clear about how -- >> is he not ruling it out any more? >> i'm not going to get out ahead of the vice president. >> how about his votes five times in the 1990s two to override a democratic president to ban partial birth abortion. >> i am not going to get out ahead of him. >> is there any limit he would

support? third trimester abortion. >>'s a supporter of a woman's right to choose. >> the biden camp might not have answers but well over half of americans are in favor of legalized abortion. 57% of americans polled say they they self-identify as pro choice. that's up ten points since february. 35% say they are pro life that's down 12 points. several states restricting their abortion laws may be behind the reason shift. 77% of americans say they would like the supreme court to uphold roe v wade but they are divided on how limited the law should be. 26% said the court should keep roe but add more restriction and 21% believe protections should be expanded. 16% said leave it alone.

14% want to keep roe with some restrictions while 13% believe roe should be overturned. more than half of americans say they would not vote for a candidate who would appoint a why do the court who would overturn roe v wade. >> joining us now from washington, senior writer at roll call. neil, good morning to you. thanks for joining us on this. as jeff just read, you're seeing more americans that are pro choi. we've seen a shift in the biden camp when it comes to abortion policy. could this likely have more of an impact within the 2020 presidential race going forward as we see the shift among americans tuds? -- attitudes. >> one thing i want to see is whether or not in that interview clip you just played with the biden campaign gets to this somewhat is how far this goes beyond the hyde amendment, the federal law that restricts and

largely bars federal funding for abortion services. whether or not how many of these democratic candidates say that basically that this is a line in the sand if they were to be elected in a spending debate and something that, you know, could prompt a government shutdown or something they would be willing to have that standoff, you know, in the the event that the republicans are in control in congress. and so some of this is a practical question, but certainly the other thing is whether or not there will be this line in the sand when it comes to these judicial nominations. obviously, president trump gained a lot of credibility with conservatives way back during the campaign when he put out that long list of judicial picks and that's where -- obviously, that's the way it works and if the democrats do the same. >> neil, let's talk about these trump tariffs. the penalty said he reached a

tariff deal with mexico. whether that's new is up for debate. the more pertinent question is whether it will be effective. based on what we know about this deal do you think it will be enough to slow the flow of migrants across the southern border? >> who knows whether or not any of this or how much of this is new. i don't know if it's going to stop the flow and certainly the fact that the president was twisting that there may be tariffs still coming if things don't work out is always the next question. if there are signs that there's no progress how quickly will trump go back to the tariffs? >> neil, we'll talk to you again in just a little bit. still ahead the house judiciary committee will hold a hearing today on lessons from the mueller report. we'll have a preview of what to expect on capitol hill. plus former boston red sox star david ortiz is in stable condition after being shot while in the dominican republic. what police are saying about the

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have you read the mueller report? >> i have not. >> why not? >> i said when we started this conversation, i trusted mr. mueller. he took a lot of shrinks and arrows. every u.s. attorney i knew said this is a man of great integrity. >> why not read the report? >> i have a concern when you put the entire power of the united states justice department behind anything, you can achieve an agenda. you can drive a message. >> not necessarily answering the question as to why he hasn't read 480 pages of that report because it's important for all americans to read that report.

that was republican congressman on with kasie hunt. congress is back on capitol hill where democrats are trying to focus the debate on the contents of the special counsel's investigation with a house judiciary committee featuring exerts entitled lessons from the mueller report. one of the people scheduled to testify is former white house counsel john dean who was a star witness as many well know in the watergate hearings that eventually led to impeachment proceedings against president nixon. president trump has taken northeast hearing tweeting yesterday this. they are even bring in cnn sleaze bag attorney john dean. joining us here on set, not sleaze bag attorney, msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. >> i appreciate that. what a ringing endorsement. >> i said not.

the best attorney in the biz. ahead of this hearing which is going to be really interesting to say the least to watch it and jeff just told me our own joyce vance and braarbara mcquaid wil be testifying. what's your takeaway so far on the mueller report. >> the mueller report which i've read, we know from mueller's press conference if called to testify, what he's going to do is be reading from the four corner of the report. in that sense if mueller is called to testify it may be very boring. there's nothing new we haven't seen in his 480-page report. the big takeaway, of course, from the mueller report can be best summarized by mueller himself who came out giving a press conference summarizing on russian collusion portion and the obstruction portion. i felt when robert mueller gave his press conference he was saying between the lines hey look we did a lot, we found a

lot of russian interference and obstruction there was not enough to charge there wasn't enough to exonerate either. >> let's talk about this hearing. this is political theater by design. democrats on the this committee say they realize the american people haven't read the mueller report and that they realize the american people don't care about the procedural drama between house democrats and this white house. what they want to do is refocus the country's attention on the actual mueller report itself and the damning evidence and they want to have john dean in that sense to be the the narrator to take people through page by page. so what do you think, one that they are going to hear from john dean and two, what comes next? impeachment proceedings out of this? >> this is a really interesting hearing today because none of these witnesses are what we would call witnesses that observe a crime in action. they don't feature prominently in the mueller report itself.

they are not participants. but it's more of giving a seminar into their vast experience on obstruction. joyce vance, a long time federal prosecutor now professor knows all about the crime of obstruction and other federal crimes. you have john dean to give a historical context. you're absolutely right when you call it theater in the sense it isn't really about the substantive content of the mueller report. no one will expand on that because they western involved in it personally. however, they will give some compelling continue the text about the prior watergate investigation, president nixon, things that a lot of folks decades later just may not have grown-up knowing about or being familiar with. these folks are going to bring it into stark relief. >> i'm just wondering if going forward there's going to be some sort of talk of procedural change that need to happen, we need to hear from someone from bob mueller or the attorney general because that was so much part of the confusion of all of

this in that for you-page memo was laid out before we heard from the special counsel. if things like that are going to be changed in the future, especially if there's a special counsel investigation for another president. >> sure. these are all moves towards greater and greater transparency which we think of transparency as being good. when it comes to government transparency is not an absolute good. there are some things that must remain opaque and the department of justice is full of these situations. there are issues like revealing investigative techniques. the results of an investigation. >> i'm not talking about revealing those techniques or classified information but hearing from the sfoun before you hear from the attorney general. >> you make a very good point. counter to that might be just as mueller himself as said, i did all my speaking in the report. that is the sum and substance of my investigation. calling me to testify isn't really going to give you much

more, so please don't call me to testify. that's what i think he said between the lines in his press conference. >> great point. the hearing is at 2:00 eastern. >> nonsleaze bag attorney. >> let's get a check on your weather. good morning. we had a soggy weekend in areas of the southeast. seemed to rain nonstop in some areas. unfortunately, became fatal in the mountainous areas of western north carolina. too much rain. a lot of creeks went up well over their banks. look at this road washed out in franklin county. unfortunately a vehicle went off there into the river and three people died in those floodwaters. almost a foot of rain in the mountains of north carolina. this was oklahoma. again, we've been dealing with flooding in oklahoma and oklahoma city on and off all spring long. this was really thunderstorms. and, yeah, that guy is lucky his car kept going. let's go the maps. umbrella type day. not going to pour all day long.

off and on periods of rain. maybe a brief downpour or two. we still have areas where we had the heavy rain, flash flood watches up for thunderstorms this afternoon. heaviest rain in the poconos, catskills, hudson valley one to two inches. hasn't rained in areas of the northeast in about a week. as far as airports go possible delays in i-95 airports, same with cleveland and pittsburgh. not all type delays. driving on the roads hit or miss showers and storms. as far as our week ahead forecast, the periods of rain today. the heat wave continues in the west. they had actually a cool month of may and that's totally flipped. very hot in the west and that continues into wednesday. wednesday afternoon watching areas of stormy weather from chicago up through the great lakes. by friday we dry it out. nice friday for the end of the week for areas in the east and the west looks pretty nice too. as the week goes on i think our weather improves for many of us across the country. still ahead, david ortiz has

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according to witnesses only one shot was fired and at a police press conference is expected later this morning. >> surprise ending to a curious triple crown season, sir winston won the 151st belmont stakes. it's a second race in a row win. a historic day in paris where rafael nadal captured his 12th french entitlement with a four set victory. the only player to win any major 12 times, incredibly emotional there as you can see nadal's 18th major victory of his career. moves him two away from roger federer's all-time record. they played against each other the day earlier. it was windy as well.

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stories. we have an updated look stainedings of the first contest of the 2020 democratic presidential race. "des moines register" poll still has former vice president joe biden in the lead but his share of the vote has dropped three points since march to 24%. senator bernie sanders is eight points behind at 16. down nine points from march. senator elizabeth warren has jumped six points to 15% and mayor pete got a 13 point bump from practically nothing back in march. now taking 14% of likely caucus goers. senator kamala harris stayed put at 7 while amy klobuchar and beto o'rourke dropped to 2%. seven other candidates hit 1% in the poll helping them qualify for one of the first debates which is a little more than two weeks away. 19 democratic presidential candidates were in cedar rapids, iowa yesterday for the biggest gathering of 2020 contenders

yet. each jockeyed to stan out during their five minute speeches at a fundraiser for the state's democratic party. now here courtesy of our friends at kacie dc is a quick round up of what the candidates had to say. >> i'll tell you somebody else who defrauded the american people. >> the most dangerous president in the history in our country. >> there's no doubt who the ring master is. and that's mitch mcconnell. >> donald trump has touched people in a v-very fearful place. >> our democracy is something we neglect at our own peril. >> our party does not need a savior. >> we are all part of being "the avengers". the republicans in 2016 that was the hunger game. >> president trump cryptonite is a strong woman. >> we need to become the party of ideas.

>> when do we want science? >> in fact i got a lot of plans. let me just mention a few. >> affordable housing and education, infrastructure things that will help people. >> let's remove every barrier in place. >> they cost jobs. >> if you heard about me in the campaign there's an asian man. >> it's been a pleasure speed dating with you tonight. >> thanks for not changing the rules this week. former vice president joe biden was noticeably absent from that gathering but he had an excuse. the chairman of the iowa democratic party said biden had called said he wished he could be there but he at his granddaughter's graduation. an event he would postpone an inaugural for. former second lady jill biden posted an instagram shot of biden and their family celebrating. >> new polling shows half of all registered voters plan to vote

against president trump in 2020. 51% of americans say they are going to vote against him next year wild 36 say they will vote to re-elect him to the white house. 13% said they were unsure. >> president trump spent part of the weekend defending the deal he announced stopping tariffs on mexican goods coming to the u.s. that were set to take effect today. the president says mexico agreed to take strong measures to stop the flow of migrants but critics are arguing much of the agreement isn't all that new. ron allen has more from the white house. >> reporter: no moan morning tariffs on mexico after president trump pitched an 11th hour immigration deal for tougher enforcement. mr. trump widely criticized for threatening tariffs blasted as false in a "new york times" report suggesting weeks of trade tension had not accomplished that much. under the deal mexico plans to deploy 6,000 troops across its southern border to stop migrant

from central america. a senior administration official acknowledged to nbc news mexico already had pledged 5400 troops. mexico agreed to allow thousands of migrants seeking asylum in the u.s. to remain in or be returned to mexico while their legal cases proceed. an arrangement first agreed toby the u.s. and mexico back in december. what's new in administration officials say is an expansion of mexico's commitments. >> he brought mexico to the table again and what they are talking about, they are going to be doing, it's going to be a game changer. >> reporter: still democrats campaigning in iowa where farmers are getting hurt by trade tensions excusing mr. trump of solving a manufactured crisis. >> i think the president has completely over blown what he purports to have achieved. >> the fact we got so many farms going one here in iowa because of his trade war. >> reporter: if the number of migrants continue to soar mr. trump warning he may turn back

to tariffs. mexican officials are cautioning it may take no, sir see a significant change at the border. it's unclear what will satisfy president trump. later this week he heads to iowa to talk about jobs, the economy, and now trade and tariffs as well. jeff? >> thanks to ron allen for that report. >> president trump has been promising relief for american farmers suffering in the trade war with china and on saturday he tweeted that mexico was coming to the rescue writing in all caps, mexico has agreed to immediately begin buying large quantity of agricultural product from our great patriot farmers. but three mexican officials told bloomberg saturday that they were not aware of any accord in the works and agricultural trade had not been discussed during three days of negotiations in washington that culminated in a joint communique last friday. asked about this three times in an interview yesterday the mexican ambassador to the united states would not say that an

agreement to immediately purchase farm goods had been reached. joining us again from washington is senior writer at roll call. neil, what do you make of the president's confusing claim of potential relief for farmers given this trade war with china and this whole deal with mexico, mexico was already the number one buyer of u.s. agricultural products. make sense of this for us as much as anyone can. >> so much as anyone can. you know, i think the thing that everyone will be looking at is whether or not there's anything in the usmca, that trade agreement that would replace nafta with canada and mexico. maybe there's something in there that the president could be referring to in terms of increased purchasing of u.s. agricultural products by mexico. but that's a separate issue that has to go through the process on capitol hill. i don't see any evidence yet, at

least that it's specific to this agreement that was reached, i guess on thursday or friday. >> neil, let's talk about some of these polls that we have been seeing as of late. we have this new poll showing basically half of americans are going to vote against the president for re-election. now the big bump we saw for mayor pete over the weekend and also senator elizabeth warren as well. what is this saying about the state of the race thus far? >> two things quickly. i think that you got to be careful with the poll that has the 51% number for trump or against trump because, again, electoral college votes matter more than the popular vote. . we've learned that time and again. but certainly the polling out of iowa on the democratic side suggest that there is definitely a lane for someone not named joe

biden and the question, i think, will be who shows up to caucus. they are going to change or there are new rules for how the caucuses will be run this year and some virtual caucusing coming into play. ground organization and figuring out the new rules is going to be really important. >> great point. thanks for your time this morning. we appreciate it. >> thank you. violent clashes broke out early this morning as police in hong kong dispersed hundreds of thousands of defiant protesters as fear and anger at china's growing influence reached a fever pitch over a proposed extradition law. yesterday's protests cut across hong kong society with politically organized groups of corporate lawyers, migrant workers, religious leaders, housewives, artists and students all joining the march. police placed crowd estimates at 240,000 while march organizers said the number could have reached as high as 1 million

making it one of the largest demonstrations in hong kong's history. it was in response to a controversial extradition law that hong kong legislators are considering and would allow local courts to consider extradition request from countries including mainland china. critics say it would give beijing the power the to silence political opponents without local oversight and it would subject hong donetsk chinese communist party control by going around hong kong's human rights protections. beijing says the unrest is the work of foreign forces. >> still ahead dials on the trump administration's move to prevent embassies from showing support for the lgbtq as members celebrate pride month. >> president trump's criticism of nasa backfires as the internet does what it does best over his bizarre claim that the moon is part of mars. those stories and bill karins is back with another check on the forecast. on the forecast

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welcome back. despite president trump's claim to support lgbtq overseas the trump administration is rejecting requests from u.s. bases to fly the rainbow flag during pride month. three american diplomats tell nbc news the state department has rejected requests from embassies in israel, germany, brazil and even latvia to display the flag on their bulling's flag poles. embassies have been given permission to show the flag elsewhere on their grounds. nasa is planning to open the international space station to commercial business and tourism. the agency announced friday that it's going to charge private companies about $35,000 a night per passenger to utilize international space station amenities allowing up two private citizens to visit the space station each year. major. shift in policy for nasa was clouded bay tweet from president trump that called into question

his administration's goal of returning astronauts to the moon by 2024. trump wrote this, for all of the money we're spending nasa should not be talking about going to the moon. we did that 50 years ago. they should be focused on the much bigger things we're doing including mars, of which the moon is a part. defense and science. trump's tweet may have been connected to one nasa idea to eventually travel to mars from the moon, but the framing of his tweets certainly sparked some confusion. >> it's part of the plan. come on. >> $35,000 for a private company to scene to you the international space station. that's going pay for somebody's amenities which includes internet if you want to send email or using the restroom. >> those are top priorities. you have to tweet and send an instagram that you're there. >> also you're paying to use the

restroom as part of the amenities. if you didn't use that you could pay less. >> i don't want a plan that doesn't include that. >> i'll hold it for two days until i come back. >> let's get into this. let's talk about the heat out west. we had a cool spring. like a snap of the fingers the dangerous heat returned to the west. we had some brush fires this weekend in areas of california. remember all the snow we talked about this past winter. that's all gone and already we're drying things up. 23 million are impacted by ert heat advisories, heat watches or heat warnings and that includes areas from phoenix to palm springs. fresno is in this. sacramento is under a heat advisory during the day today. this is the big fire that formed. about 2,000 acres. not big compared to some huge monsters later in the season. but a wake up call of what's to come. windy conditions and dry conditions were with us this weekend. that changes today. winds are dying off. firefighters will get control of everything out here.

not an issue. the temperatures are going to continue to be very warm. got a heat dome sitting over the west. pacific northwest will cool a little bit. phoenix jumping up to 108. middle of the country you look fantastic. no problems whatsoever. east coast still dealing with high humidity and hit or miss showers and storms. it's not going to be torrential rains we saw over the weekend but any of the big airports from atlanta to tampa, d.c., charlotte, potential for isolated delays. here's how the airports are looking. likely delays in atlanta and charlotte. hit or miss in florida. if anyone is traveling from new york newark arraignments, philadelphia, d.c., baltimore, hit or miss delays. i wouldn't change any plans. it won't be that type of rain. >> thanks, bill. still ahead global markets kick off the new trading week on a high note following the u.s.-mexico tariff deal. >> a major merger as raytheon and united technologies come

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>> reporter: on friday u.s. markets had one of the best days in months after the president tweeted about the non-imposition of those tariffs. there was quite a lot of focus on the u.s. nonfarm payrolls, the focus on the non-farms payroll. those were a lot worse than expected. a lot of investors seem to think it means the federal reserve may be willing to cut rates sooner. markets today all rally, one potential rise in those, steven mnuchin saying the u.s. administration would be willing to slap more tariffs on chinese goods if trump's president with xi jinpings cou s couldoes not the end of the month. and raytheon and united

technology combined will be a huge merger. >> so what should customers be bracing for here in the states? >> i mean, no major changes. what fedex are saying is we don't think amazon matters as much to us as it used to. we want to focus on the broader e-commerce sector. amazon was worth about 1.3% of its total revenues when you look at the express delivery they're going to end. but you have to look at the light of the retail competition, you have walmart, target, fedex saying they're going to focus on firms like walmart, taking their side in this retail war. and really interestingly, amazon by building out its own distribution network, using its own planes and shipping systems is essentially competing

directly with fedex as well. >> thank for your time this morning. >> coming up, everybody, axios' jonathan swan has a look at this morning's "1 big thing." and coming up on "morning joe," president trump celebrates the deal to avoid slapping tariffs on mexico and is speaking out on those opposed to the agreement. and coming up, "morning joe" is just moments away. up, "morning just moments away. the lexus es...

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swan. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> talk to us about axios' "1 big thing" today. >> we went to italy, axios and hbo, to check out steve bannon. remember him? he's been getting a lot of international and u.s. media coverage for what he describes as a far-reaching, populous movement he's building in italy. we went there to match his claims up against the reality and we got the first look inside a monastery that he is leasing about two hours outside of rome where he wants to build what he calls a gladiator school to change fearsome hoards of right-wing leaders. we found many of his claims were false or overblown. the monastery does exist and it is magnificent, but the leader that he has gotten the most attention for being close to, "the new york times" did a big piece on it, the most powerful

politician in italy, i went and spoke to salvini, he said he barely knows steve bannon, spoke to him twice in his life. i asked steve bannon and he conceded maybe he'd spoken to him three or four times and he also concedes he hasn't done really any of the things that he told the media he was going to do across europe. >> steve bannon, an exaggerateor, you don't say? what else did you learn from him during the course of this interview, john? >> well, it was really interesting to meet some of the people that he has been associating with over there. we went to the salvini rally. there was a man there canvassing for salvini who had a mussolini pin and security took him away because they didn't want him associating mussolini with

salvini. these are not fringe characters. we spoke to another woman who is close to steve bannon. she opened her campaign, her election campaign beside rachela mussolini, who is mussolini's granddaughter. there are some very sinister undertones to things going on over there. >> why did bannon choose to concentrate his efforts on italian politics? >> to give him some credit, i had a conversation with him about a year and a half ago or maybe longer, soon after he left the white house, and he predicted the unity of the far left and the far right in italy, which is what happened there. you've got far left populist and far left populists joining together in government. steve bannon is always trying to

attach himself to the waves of history. you've got right ring populist mouchlts. >> let talk about these mexico care i was or the mexico tariffs that weren't. in many ways it reads like a classic case of the president creating or exacerbating the crisis and then stepping in with a fix so he can claim credit for it. i was talking to people close to the white house who were all but certain the tariffs would not take effect because of the pushback the president was getting from the chamber of commerce and fobs from the business community. unpack that for us, the pressure the president of fating from folks tho would normally support him. >> it was huge pressure he was facing. i think the most interesting element of this whole story, which is not i go getting nearly enough coverage, the president's

threats last week may have longer lasting impacts, which is that they actually created so much pan uk within the u.s. business community that people are finally now having a serious conversation about how to claw back all of these trade powers that congress has handed to successive presidents over the last 80 years. >> great point. jonathan swan, thank for your time this morning. we'll be reading axios a.m. later this morning. >> that wraps it up for us. "morning joe" starts right now. good morning and welcome to "morning joe," is it monday, june 10th. with us, white house reporter for the associated press jonathan lemire, washington anchor for bbc news america, katty kay is with us, historian and rodgers professor of the presidency at vanderbilt