that is our broadcast on this tuesday night. thank you so much for being here with us. good night from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. ♪ there is no shortage of presidential candidates. but right now, president trump and joe biden are sure making it sound like a two-person race. they both hit the campaign trail in iowa. trading and ignoring other contenders. plus house democrats vote to take attorney general bill barr and don mcgahn to court in order to enforce congressional subpoenas. and will congress do after being called out in stunning fashion by former "the daily show" jon stewart. he blasted lawmakers for failing to provide health care to 9/11

first responders. it certainly was unbelievable testimony from jon stewart yesterday. good morning, everybody. it's wednesday june 12en. i'm yasmin vossoughian along size nbc news white house correspondent geoff bennett. it will be more than seven months before the first votes are counted in the 2020 nominating contest. but president trump is already focusing on opponent joe biden. while the former vice president is also centering his attention on the president. both were in iowa yesterday where biden delivered scathing remarks that stomped across the state as the president launched his own attack during an appearance in iowa. >> in 2020, we not only have reputed donald trump's policies and values, we have to clearly and fully reject for our own safety sake, his view of the

presidency. quote, i have complete power. no, you don't, donald trump. quotes from donald trump, i have absolute power, no, you don't, donald trump. or, only i can fix it. fix yourself first, donald trump. >> politicians let other countries push us around, treat us badly, treat our country with no respect. and you see that with biden. we would never be treated with respect. because people don't respect him, even the people that he's running against. they're saying where is he? what happened? he makes his stance in iowa once every two weeks. and then he mentions my name 74 times in one speech. i don't know. that reminds me of crooked hillary. she did the same thing. when it came time to vote, they said, you know, she doesn't like trump very much.

but what else does she stand for. same thing is happening with sleepy joe. >> a new national poll shows president trump is lagging far behind biden and five other democrats. the quinnipiac university poll taken between thursday and monday showed biden leading trump by 13 points. 53% to 40%. while bernie sanders bests trump by nine points, 51% to 42%. kamala harris ahead by eight points, elizabeth warren by seven points. and pete buttigieg and cory booker each leading by five points with trump failing to break 42% against any of them. the general election results fit a pattern of people who view trump favorably in the poll as 42% approve of trump's job performance. 31% credit trump for a good economy. and only 41% approve of the president's policy towards mexico which he is touting as a big victory. and joining us from washington

is nbc news national political reporter mike nimaly. thank you for getting up with this this morning. >> good morning. >> you were watching both of the rallies. what were your takeaways? >> i think there were two big takeaways from yesterday. the first is joe biden is much more comfortable running in a general election against president trump than he is in a primary election against 23 other democrats. last week we saw biden have the first stumbles since announcing in april. first, the climate policy details which were not attributed correctly. secondly, getting tripped up by very difficult policy of abortion. his reversal. and the opportunity to be in the same state as president trump in iowa, his campaign seized on that opportunity to make this is a split screen moment to focus the electorate and primary on

what is real challenge of the general election. i think the second takeaway, despite what president trump might be saying on the south lawn and the posture he has there in iowa. he is very much concerned about a general election matchup against joe biden. he's concerned about that blue wall that trump was able to flip in michigan, pennsylvania. you heard him attack the vice president as mentally weak. 1% zwro. what was interesting in that third one last night, the president deciding not to mention joe biden by name. >> mike, it's interesting joe biden seems like one of the few candidates really going after the president on the campaign trail. a lot of the other candidates kind of staying away from that, making it more about the issue. what is the strategy behind this? is there going to be a point where biden is going to flip and go off against the two other candidates in the race? >> i think we saw in the des

moines register poll announced this weekend, where the candidates stand in iowa. one of the biggest takeaways from that poll was two-thirds of caucusgoers are more interested in somebody who could beat donald trump than somebody who lines up with their values. biden is as progressive as anybody in the field but you see them as often as they can trying to raise the stakes of the election making it more arguable who is the better candidate and they believe that is joe biden. >> do they have any decision in the poll? >> no that biden's day might be his best day, the lead in the polls, naturally, as we heard the vice president himself say yesterday, this is a marathon, not a sprint. they're not to worried about it. >> nbc's mike memoli. we'll talk to you in a bit. and house speaker nancy

pelosi is saying not even close to having enough support in the house. while speaking on the house floor, she said, quote, we need answers to the questions left unanswered by the mueller report. house judiciary chairman jerry nadler who has pushed for a formal impeachment inquiry, he was asked on msnbc about the house speaker. take a look. >> when people say chairman nadler is pushing pelosi on this, that's basically true or basically not true? >> well, nancy pelosi has said all options are on the table. they are on the table. and when we get more information as this process continues, we'll have to make decisions down the road. >> all right. so democrats are stepping up the fight for congressional oversight of the trump administration. the house voted yesterday to authorize the judiciary committee to go to court in order to enforce subpoenas for

attorney general bill barr and don mcgahn. the vote keeps them on a track favored by nancy pelosi and other house speakers and away from impeachment inquiry that some 2020 presidential candidates have been seeking. >> at the birth of our democracy, amid war and revolution thomas payne said that times have found us. we are here today because the times have found us. while we do not place ourselves in the same category of greatness as our founders, we do recognize the urgency of the threat to our nation we face today. >> but a new clash broke out between democrats and the administration yesterday. the justice department revealed in a letter that attorney general bill barr will ask president trump to invoke executive privilege, to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census, if democrats move forward with plans to hold barr

in contempt. and house speaker nancy pelosi is looking to brush off a series of insults leveled by president trump while the two were in normandy, france, last week. >> he said you're nervous. he called you a disaster, he also called you a nasty, vindictive horrible person. that's not me. the president said this. he later went on to tweet that you're a disgrace to yourself and your family. how do you react to the president of the united states calling you speaker of the house insulting you like that. >> what bothers me is that we're talking about that and not the national debt. i'm done with him. i don't even want to talk with him. >> how do you work with that leveled insult overseas. >> i guess i consider the source. >> what do you mean by that? >> my stock goes up every time he attacks me, so what can i say? let's not spend too much time on

that because that's his victory. diverter of attention in chief. >> president trump hits back at pelosi when asked about the comments before he left the white house for iowa yesterday afternoon. >> look. nancy is a mess. the democratic party is a mess. they're doing everything they can to win the election in 2020. they are guilty of many crimes. many, many crimes. >> all right. so the first democratic presidential primary debate is set for later this month. yes, the time is here. and the candidates now know which moderators they're facing. nbc announces anchors jose diaz be bellarz and lester holt and rachel maddow will moderate. "morning joe" is live in miami the morning after each night of the debate. still ahead, a former

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sentencing hearing according to "the boston globe." joining us here on the set, msnbc legal analyst, danny cevallos. what do you make of the sentencing here 13 months? >> this is one of the lowest level defendants. in fact, the person who provided the most evidence against him was singer, the center piece of this main case, the main bad guy. part two, as you alluded to, the defendant in this case did not personally profit from the money. he took the money and essentially gave it to stanford. he's a first-time offender. none of the students actually attended stanford. so there's a decent argument that the crime never went through. >> that doesn't matter. >> under the definition that doesn't matter at all. exactly. he's part of the overall agreement, so he is going to be sentenced. and the real battle today is does he get a straight probation sentence or closer to the 13 months that the government is

looking for in this case. >> what kind of sentence doing the other parents and coaches involved in this scheme, what kind of sentencing do they face? >> it all depends on their individual conduct. and this is a great example. this is a coach who is arguably higher up on the chain of this overall scheme. but yet, his individual liability seems less because, as we discussed, he didn't actually pocket the money. the students actually didn't go to stanford but he was involved in the criminality. other coaches, for example, who may have pocketed a bunch of money, they are likely looking at a stiffer sentence. >> what about a lori loughlin situation? >> lori loughlin is another textbook. they approach her early on. they offer her a deal to plead guilty. she says, no, i'm going to trial. maybe a day later, they file superseding indictment and they charge her with more crimes.

there's a lesson to be learned here, even if you're a low-level defendant, if you're thinking of pleading guilty, now is the time. don't waffle. what happened to lori loughlin is may what happen to you. you back up the dump track. >> that's interesting news if you're going to plead guilty -- >> do not walk, run to your nearest prosecutor and plead guilty. >> we learned something today. danny cevallos. >> of other news on the show, it's good news. >> you're right. thanks, dan. let's get a check of the weather with meteorologist michelle grossman. >> hi there, guys. hopefully, news, we won't need in the near future. we're looking at day three of a heat wave in parts of california from the pacific northwest down to the desert southwest where we're looking at heat advisories. 44 million people impacted. and it gets dangerous once it

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jong-un. and i think the relationship is very well. but i appreciated the letter. i saw the information about the cia with respect to his brother, or half brother. and i would tell him that would not happen under my -- under my auspicious. that's for sure. i wouldn't let that happen under my auspicious. but i just received a beautiful letter from junkim jong-un. i can't show you the letter obviously. it was a very warm letter, i appreciate it. say it. >> i don't know anything about that. i know the relationship is such that wouldn't happen under my auspicious. i don't know about that. nobody knows. >> any talk about another meeting with kuim jong-un. >> well, it could happen. in the meantime, he's kept his word. there's no nuclear testing. no long range missiles going up.

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♪ welcome back. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside nbc news white house correspondent geoff bennett. it's the bottom of the hour. let's start with the morning's top stories. president trump continuing to tout last week's immigration agreement with mexico. the president yesterday presented the hard evidence to silence his critics. >> the best thing that ever happened to the farmers is me. that's at agreement that everybody says they don't have. no, because i'm going to let mexico do the announcement at the right time. for mexico, they want to go

through it. but here's the agreement. it's a very simple agreement. this is one page. this is one page of a very long and very good agreement for both mexico and the unites. without the tariffs, we would have had nothing. >> there it is. former vice president biden who along with the president was in iowa campaigning yesterday was quick to seize on trump's show and tell of his secret agreement. >> i understand the president is down the road. apparently, he has a secret important document with mexico. and i'm sure there are a heck of a lot of iowans being crushed by his tariffs that would like to see that document. he thinks being tough is great. i'm sure it's easy to be tough when someone else absorbs the

pain, farmers, manufacturers, automobile industry. the fact is, he backed off the threat with tariffs with mexico lately because he realized he was likely to lose, michigan, iowa and ohio. >> and the president continuing to spar over chinaia, with the president revealing he is the one to hold up a potential trade deal with beijing. >> joe biden thought china was not a competitor. china made $500 billion over a short period of time against oba obama/biden. and for many, many years, in all fairness to them, china is a major competitor. and right now, china wants to make a deal very badly. it's me right now holding up the deal. right now, china is paying us billions and billions of dollars. they never gave us ten cents. and china ate our country alive during obama and biden. they ate us alive.

>> china poses real challenges in the united states. and in some ways a real threat to the united states. but donald trump is only exacerbating a threat and the danger. we can outcompete china every single solitary day. while trump is saying, china is making investments in technology in artificial intelligence and 5g. while he's name-calling, china is building roads, bridges and high-speed rail. >> let's stick with joe biden here, he's continuing to maintain his lead in the democratic primary field according to a quinnipiac poll. 30% of democratic voters as you see there say they support the former vp. putting him 11 points ahead of bernie sanders. however, biden is down five points since last month. 19% of democrats say they back sanders who is up three points. 15% back massachusetts senator

elizabeth warren up two points. eight% support south bend mayor pete buttigieg. up three points. and 7% say they back kamala harris. 3% support beto o'rourke. just a quick note, everybody, beto o'rourke is going to join montgome "morning joe" tomorrow morning. i want to bring back "the washington post" reporter mike memoli. we've seen joe biden take a bit of a dip in some of the polling that we've been tracking since he first entered the race. as i just mentioned, he was now five points down since may. so talk to us, mike, about what explains this dip here. >> well, yasmin, let's first be clear, there are probably about a dozen candidates in that poll hovering around 1%. >> yes. >> a lot of them would be happy drop 5% or be in joe biden's position there.

you've heard me say this before, joe biden's biggest strength at the moment in the democratic primary field is his perceived strength. he got off to a very strong start when they launched in april. we saw him build that lead in the polls. but that poll was in the field there just as biden began to hit rough patches that we discussed earlier. but i'll tell you the poll i'm interested in seeing is that first poll after our first democratic primary debate. there's been a lot of talk that maybe joe biden doesn't have the busiest campaign schedule. his trip to iowa is his only stop on the campaign trail. he's spending a lot of time getting ready for the debate because he knows a lot of candidates are coming after him. that could be the first test for him in the primary race so far. >> one thing we saw yesterday, mike, was the president and joe biden attacking each other over trade policy. how does this fight over china tariffs, especially in a place

like iowa, how is that expected to play with voters, do you think? >> it's interesting one of the or lines from biden attacking the president over tariffs. he thinks china is paying for tariffs just like he thinks mexico is paying for the wall. i think this is the most interesting questions around the whole 2020 elections. you heard trump earlier in that sound bite say farmers have never had anybody better than me. is it that the emotional connection that trump has with his base withstand some of the economic pressures that the policies have had on farmers, people like that. interesting, i will note that the senior senator from iowa yesterday, chuck grassley, very much attune to the politics in his home state, told voters he's going to go ahead with legislation that would constrain the president's ability to unilaterally impose tariffs. the question in 2020 will that

blow back on president trump. >> quickly, mike, i want you to touch how you think biden is going to fare on that debate stage. he is the one candidate that has a lot of history, to say the least, a lot of issues that can be attacked. and the voting record that can be attacked as well. how do you expect him to fare on the debate stage with other candidates? >> yeah. i think the biggest test for joe biden is what you just said. he's a man who is very proud of his record. on that stage, he's going to have to withstand potentially nine other candidates going after him over policies that he's very proud of, that he's championed. and largely isn't backing away from, despite the political pressure. we heard from biden himself and his advisers he doesn't intend to go after his opponents on the stage. but it's going to be very tricky at a two-hour debate to avoid doing so. the surest way is get donald

trump is a fight with fellow democrats. >> mike, thank you. we'll see you again on "morning joe." mayor pete buttigieg is outlining his initial foreign policy views as the 2020 candidate. during a speech, buttigieg called for the, quote, endless war, in afghanistan while taking swipes at president trump's own foreign policy. >> i fear some day soon, we may receive news of the first u.s. casualty of the 9/11 wars born after 9/11. it is not just to say we won't conduct foreign policy by tweet. nor would it be honest to promise that we can restore an old order that cannot in any case meet the realities of a new moment. democrats can no more turn the clock back to the 1990s than republicans to the 1950s and we

should not rytry. >> buttigieg is a navy veteran, in an hour-long speech directly called russia an adversary, rather than a real estate opportunity. still ahead, everybody, we've got a lot more, former "daily show" show host jon stewart ripped legislators for not standing behind the 9/11 responders. and michelle grossman is back with the forecast including flooding in parts the country. your "first look" at "morning joe" is back in a moment. all money managers might seem the same,

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out lawmakers for failing to call a hearing for a bill that would insure the 9/11 compensation fund set up after the attack never runs out of money. >> behind me, a filled room of 9/11 first responders. and in front of me, a nearly empty congress, shameful. it's an embarrassment to the country. and it is a stain on this institution. your indifference cost these men and women their most valuable commodity. time. the one thing they're running out of, they responded in five seconds. they did their jobs. with courage, grace, tenacity, humility.

18 years later, do yours. >> incredible. >> and that the hearing was not slated to take place before the entire judiciary committee, but, rather, a subcommittee of only 14 members. atwo of the 14 members were absent. and both who were actually co-sponsors of the bill. i will tell you, the real crime, the real outrage is the way the compensation fund is set up, it runs out of money every several years, it has to be reauthorized. what you have, these firefighters coming from new york to washington, begging lawmakers for money. >> while they're sick. >> while they're sick getting treatment. >> saving lives on that day. you can imagine why jon stewart would be so emotional. it should be a layout for these heroes putting their lives on the line. let's get a check of the weather with michelle grossman. >> hey there, guys. kind of like out of sight, out of mind, you hear that, and you

just want to do something. but let's talk about the weather, we really want to focus on flooding once again. we're looking at a lot of rain in the southeast. heavy, heavy downpours. right now, we're looking at flash floods, flash flood warning, buford and savannah. in the last 3 1/2 hours, that last frame is your current frame. very heavy downpours as you're walking outdoor in charlotte. we're going to see showers in the ohio valley, tennessee valley. another potential for rain there. they don't need rain if they're going to see rounds of that. the rainfall forecast, the next 36 hours, looking from one up to three. this could happen in a short amount of time. flash flooding is also a potential. airport impact, throughout the day. where you see the red, that's an impact, flying out of charlotte. jacksonville, you're going see showers and storms and could

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pressed on what portion of the tax cuts were fully paid for, to which he replied that it was hard to know, as he said. congress add that, quote, we will know in the year eight, nine, ten, what revenues brought in. it's way too early to tell. brady's comments contradict republican lawmakers. and the trump administration repeatedly made pushing the cut saying they would be fully paid for, that would in turn generate additional tax revenues for the federal government. according to the latest congressional budget office released friday, the deficit is up nearly 40% so far this fiscal year. and yesterday was a trying day for big tech as the department of justice's antitrust chief outlined how the agency could potentially take

aim at google, apple, facebook and amazon. cnbc villa mark joins us live from lond. what did you assistant general who focuses on anti-trust was speaking at a tech conference in tel-aviv. what he said that made investors in the tech sector pay attention is the fact that the doj, in his view, already has the legal tools required to take on some of the massive companies you've already mentioned. he has publicly launched an investigation, which we don't have any of the consequences of just yet. in terms of what he thinks is possible under doj current tool sort of range, the tool kit essentially, is they would be able to break up some of the massive tech firms, just in the same way as they were able to break up firms like standard oil back in the day. the times may have changed, the tools need not, essentially. let's talk about kids eating vegetables. >> hard left turn here. >> i know i sometimes have to

fry vegetables for my kid to eat them. kraft figured it out. they're going to basically lie. >> i have a 3-year-old, yasmin, and he is a fan of broccoli. that seems to be a bit of an anoma anomaly. what kraft are trying to do to encourage kids to eat more greens is rebranding. if you take a pouch of their classic ranch dressing and dress it up as cake frosting, perhaps, just perhaps, you'll be able to get kids to eat more of their lettuce, beans, and all the other greens. this seems to follow the advice of the legendary child carer, mary poppins, a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down. >> the poor kid, no one told her she has something in her teeth. >> she'll regret it by high school. >> the problem is not the word "dressing." my kid loves ranch dressing. if i bribe him with dressing to dip a vegetable in, he's fine with it.

the problem is salad. they need a different phrase for salad, not actual dressing. >> in my house, it should be salad ketchup because my kid puts it on everything. >> mine, as well. vilwillem has something going, his kid eats broccoli. >> it's been good news the last couple years on that front. >> willwillem, thanks. coming up on "morning joe," the president and former vice president take off the gloves. more on president trump and joe biden's day in iowa. trading attacks and the potential matchup for the 2020 race for the white house. plus, former defense secretary ash carter joins the conversation to discuss the trump administration's foreign policy and the use of tariffs to pressure rivals and allies alike. "morning joe" is just moments away. ♪

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a look at axios am, the co-founder of axios, mike allen. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> talk to us about axios' one big thing toaday. >> the one big thing is trump's re-election crisis. so sunday, which is also father's day, is the five -- six-year anniversary of the president coming down the gold elevator at trump tower, announcing his campaign. this coming up tuesday in orlando, president trump officially kicks off his campaign. as he does that, there are flashing warning signs to him everywhere that there is potential trouble. you can see this in internal polls. you can see this in national polls. you can see this in key state polls. >> break that down for us. what exactly are these signals that you're seeing in some of the data? >> yeah. so these are the worrisome signs for the trump white house. josh of the "national journal" called him the weakest political shape of any president since george h.w. bush, 41 who, of

course, lost his re-election race. what do we see? we see that in polls in key states, even in conservative states, texas, arizona, north carolina, trouble for trump. in the midterms, we saw weakness in his go-to states of pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, all potential problems for him. this remarkable "new york times" report that the president got a very sobering briefing about where he stands in key states that he absolutely has to win. rust belt states where he is losing to joe biden. "new york times" reporting that the president told his aides to deny that the polls said what they said and point to other ones that showed him winning. >> so what are you hearing about how the trump campaign is going to combat these problems? what issue are they going to try to lead with? what's trump's strategy? >> they know there is real softness in these states. the reason they don't seem to be panicked, and certainly the

public message is trump always underpolls. we, of course, saw that some in 2016. >> yeah. >> they say that when he has the chance to go up head to head against somebody, to brand them, to take them on one on one, that they will look very different. perceive very differently than they did. something else i've learned from their internal polls, they say that the more you tell trump voters about the green new deal, about medicare for all, they think by unpacking these plans, it is going to cause trouble for democrats. >> so how are democrats planning to capitalize on trump's weaknesses here, do you think? >> yeah, so "morning joe" yesterday, they were talking about the irony that very often you talk to democrats and they think trump is going to win. you talk to republicans and they think that the president is going to lose. when you talk to optimistic democrats, they say it is going to be all about somebody who can beat trump.

the fine shades that we're parsing now, of the different health care plans, what they're proposing, that all of that will wash away, and that the sole criteria in the end, when most democrats tune in to this race, will be whether or not you can beat trump. that's what's illuminating about the polls we see in the focus groups we see. democrats who are paying attention to this race, who know about the democratic candidates, who can distinguish among them, it is a small part of the election. it is blue twitter, we call it. it is a small part of the voters out there paying attention now. >> who do they think can beat the president and how, on what issues? >> we just saw that in the interesting clip we saw of mayor pete and his foreign policy. it is going to be somebody who makes it the toughest for the president to demonize them, to make them look like a socialist, to push them further left.

that's why you saw mayor pete there willing tough on adversaries like china and russia. makes it harder for the president because that's ultimately what he's banking on. the be smart in this story is the president thinks he can take anybody that eventually runs at him and make them look like a socialist. the kicker to this is, bernie sanders, the original socialist, is ahead of the president by 12 in michigan, in a poll the detroit news just played out. he has softness in places and authentic reason to worry. >> mike allen, thanks for your time. >> have a great day. >> you can sign up for axios' newsletter at signup.axios.com. that does it for us on this wednesday morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside geoff bennett. "morning joe" starts right now. >> i just went to the oval office and found this beautiful le