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network of terrorist organizations. >> all right. we'll leave it there. thanks for your time there. thank you as well. that's going to wrap up this hour of msnbc live. i'll see you tomorrow morning on today. right now andrea mitchell reports from new york. in the house. thank you. busy news day. right now on andrea mitchell reports, russia, if you're still listening. the president of the united states in the oval office says he would accept assistance from a foreign government in the upcoming 2020 election on abc. >> it's not an interference. they have information. i think i'd take it if i thought
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there was something wrong, i'd go make to the fbi if i thought there was something wrong. coming up, reaction from former national security adviser and the top democrat on the senate intelligence committee, mark warner joining us. nc nancy pelosi is still resisting pressure to open impeachment hearings. >> everybody in the country should be totally appalled by what the president said last night. should be totally appalled. he has a habit of making appalling statements. under attack. the u.s. navy racing to rescue dozens of sailors from two foreign oil tankers attacked in the persian gulf. >> at some point we're going to have to decide what we're going to do. these areas are really narrow. the question is what are u.s. forces going to do. good day. i'm andrea mitchell.
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president trump inviting foreign intervention in the 2020 campaign by saying he would not rule out accepting opposition research from a foreign government. telling abc every one does it. >> put yourself in a position. you're a congressman. somebody comes up and says i have information on your oppone opponent. do you call the fbi? >> if it comes from russia, you do. >> i've seen a lot of things, i don't think i've called the fbi. you throw somebody out of your office. >> al gore got a stolen briefing bo book. he called the fbi. >> this is somebody that says we have information on your opponent. let me call the fbi. give me a break. >> fbi director says that should happen. >> the fbi director is wrong. >> if china, russia or someone offers you information, should they accept it or call the fbi? >> i think you do both.
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there's nothing wrong with listening. >> the president's comments raising the stakes for nan tcy pelosi for raising the stakes. even lindsey graham objecting to what mr. trump saying even that he disagreed with chris wrey. >> if a foreign government comes to you as a public official and offers to help your campaign, giving you information of value whether it's money or information on your opponent, the right answer is no. i've been consistent about that. christopher wrey's statement is the correct statement. >> joining me now, nbc white house correspondent kristen welker and ashley parker, white house reporter at the washington post. welcome both. so much going on today. first of all, let's talk about the interview with the president and the president not only saying he would do it again, accept foreign interference, not
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n notify the fbi if he thought there was something wrong but also saying that chris wrey was wrong when he testified that the fbi should be notified any time, anyone from a foreign government offers assistance to an american campaign. >> well, you're right. this is the president breaking with what you've heard from so many kancandidates saying they l not accept ffinformation and hi own fbi director saying we need to know about it. we want to know if a campaign is approached by a foreign entity. president trump doubling down on this today defending his comments on twitter saying, look, i can meet with the prince of wales, for example. i'm not going to sell him out by disclosing he's given me information. of course, a number of people have pounced on that and said wait a minute, that's conflating
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di l diplomacy. it created a challenge from this white house for a communications perspective. you have white house officials out in damage control. out trying to defend the president's comments. they come after that nearly two year investigation into whether or not the trump campaign meddled with or coordinated with russia to meddle in the direction. mueller, based on his report, found a number of links, but determined there was no conspiracy. this is only going to fuel the calls on capitol hill for impeachment. >> already have. let's be clear on what the u.s. code says. all the lawyers we talked to say it's basically illegal. the u.s. code says it shall be unlawful for a foreign national directly or indirectly to make a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value or
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make an express or implied propgs to make a contribution or donation. a person to solicit or accept or receive a contribution or do nation described in paragraph b from a foreign national. that's textbook clear. how does the president talk around this? >> i mean, he's not talking around it. you heard him say something in that interview that was almost taking what he said that was so controversial during the campaign which was russia, if you're listening, go ahead, release the e-mails. doubling, tripling down on it. now speaking to all foreign governments and all rogue nations in expressing his willingness and acceptance. it's clear for whatever reason he doesn't think this is something to apologize for. he doesn't think this is something that is problematic
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and it is just another area where he seems willing and almost even eager to contradict just about every single member of his own intelligence community. >> i wanted to play also chris wrey's comment. what he is slapping chris wrey down about. this was chris wrey testifying. >> my view is if any public official or any member of any campaign is contacted by any nation, state or anybody acting on behalf of a nation state about influencing or interfering with our election then that's something that the fbi would want to know about. >> kevin mccarthy, just now the house republican leader was asked about it. let me play that for you as well. >> i know this president would not want any foreign government interfering in our elections. he is strong about that. that's why he's been so strong against russia. >> what would you do? would you call the fbi? would you call the fbi?
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>> would i call the fbi about what? >> if a foreign adversary called you and said i have information on your opponent? >> i would send it to the authorities, yes. >> kasie hunt questioning kevin mccarthy. republicans are put on the spot because contrary to what the president said it's not something every congressman does to accept opposition research. in the interview the president also said if norway offered something, well, norway is a foreign government so it doesn't matter whether you're a friend or a foe. as a former intelligence official said last night on msnbc, john brennan, norway would be a cut out for someone else. >> reporter: i think the exchange underscores how tricky this is for republicans. you saw him hesitate knowing he
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was going to break with and disprove those remarks by president trump that look every one does this when in fact members of congress say that's not the right thing to do. lindsey graham said it's a mistake. the question becomes how does this impact the impeachment debate and what happens moving forward. house speaker nancy pelosi underscoring that the law needs to be even clearer. that something that they are going to push for. she has long said that in order to move forward with impeachment, there needs to be more bipartisan support for it and as of right now, what you're really seeing on the face of it is a few republicans speaking out saying, look, this wasn't the right language to use but you're not seeing anymore republicans jump on that impeachment band wagon. >> thanks so much. after being criticized for saying he might not report to fbi if he was offered election help by a foreign entity, president trump attacked mark warner on twitter writing when senator mark warner spoke at length and in great detail about
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extremely negative information on me with a talented entertainer did he immediately call the fbi. no. he didn't tell the senate intelligence committee of which he was a member. well, that was a striking tweet for senator mark warner of virginia. senator, what is the president tweeting about? do you have any idea? >> i don't have the foggiest idea about what he is tweeting about. my staff said he may be referencing with a ukrainian shock jock called congressman schiff. he made this reference a couple of times. if he's going to attack me, it ought to be based on some circumstance in fact. i'm extraordinarily concerned about what the president said. we all take an oath when we get sworn into these jobs to defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. when a foreign nation tries to
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interfere in our democracy, that's an take on our democracy. i don't understand what part of that he doesn't get. we saw in 2016 if we try to cut mr. trump when he was just a candidate and welcomed the russians if they had dirt on hillary clinton to bring it. you would have thought two and a half years later after the mueller report, after our investigation, after the intelligence community's assessment that russia massively intervene inside way to help him and hurt clinton that he would have had some moral compass to say that was wrong and on a going basis i'm not going to invite other nations to intervene again. he obviously hasn't learned that lesson. he continues to invite other nations to intervene. what i'm hoping and i heard sochl tsome of the earlier commentary where my republican colleagues know he
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messed up and are not sure what to do. this afternoon i'll offer bill on the floor of the senate. i already introduced it a few weeks ago to say let's make clear on a going forward basis if there's any need for further clarity, if an agent of a foreign government tries to intervene, there thought to be an affirmative obligation to report it to the fbi. >> how do you define agent? does that give them an out when there are people who are not members of the gru, the russian military intelligence but who really are military intelligence. vladimir putin is not technically a former agent bage former kgb. >> we should air on the inclusive side. i'm not saying reporting it to the fbi would constitute a prosecution. let's let law enforcement professionals make that
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determinati determination. in the past world, you wouldn't need it because any legitimate candidate for president would have enough sense to know if a foreign nation was offering them dirt on one of their opponents, they'd call law enforcement. it's not the case with this white house. i'm not even saying this legislation is not geared at mr. trump. we clearly know the russian play book is out there. m they may choose to intervene on behalf of a democratic candidate or someone else. >> former republican congressman david jolly said last night to brian williams on the face of it what the president said last night should force nancy pe los to go forward and start impeachment fact finding hearings. >> i think speaker pelosi has navigated this as well as you can. i'm leaving that to the house where i'm focused because we still have to finish our
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bipartisan investigation. i'm proud we're the only bipartisan one left. i'm focused on how we make 2020 safe. we ought to have strong election security, legislation so there's a paper trail after every vote. we ought to put some guardrails on social media so we don't have the kind of manipulation that we will have with deep videos. >> the cia reporting from the new york times that one of the things that the u.s. attorney in connecticut assigned by the attorney general to investigate the origins of the russia probe are going to interview two top cia analysts and this is a criminal investigation, into their contacts with russia, their sources for the origins of the probe. what are your concerns about this reach? about the declassification authority given to the ag and about the possibility of implicating source, methods or a chilling effect on the analysts
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in the intelligent community. >> i'm very concerned about any effort to politicize intelligence and men and women in the intelligence community have so far stayed true to their goal of speaking truth to power. even the trump appointees, i think have done a very good job of staying true to their oath of office to provide truth to power. i've been very concerned with getting barr, this attorney general seems to be more the president's personal lawyer than attorney general. i've been very concerned about his ability to declassify. i think that's inappropriate. i think this justice department investigation, let's look at this. the intelligence community itself did an analysis. our committee did an analysis of the beginnings of this investigation. when the republicans controlled the house, devin nunes had umpteen different investigations. nobody found any wrong doing.
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if they are going down this rabbit hole, they can go down there. i want to make sure there's not undue influence put on the intelligence community or any effort to disclose sources and methods because peoples lives have been at stake. >> mike flynn. there seem to be a very overt tweet from the president today about mike flynn's new lawyer. he fired his attorney. great lawyer from the president. is this a pardon dangle? >> i don't have the foggiest idea. >> are you worried about it? >> it worried y eies me greatly. we have not been able to speak in recent times with general flynn. >> are you going to call him now? >> i think it would be very important to get to him at some point. it's hard to get to people while they are still going through the judicial process. i think, again, there were so many contacts. this was part of that pattern of contacts with russians. the even if i'm not trying to
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relitigate 2016, let's make sure it doesn't happen again in 2020. >> thank you so much senator warner. thanks. we know do you got to go. nc susan rice joins me now. welcome back. >> good to be with you. not even saying what country and as john brennon pointed out, you never know when a foreigner is offering opposition. what is your view of the president opening the door to foreign assistance in 2020? >> this is extremely serious. the stark reality, the sad truth is that we have a president in
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the united states whose not playing on america's team. he is invited yet again foreign interference in our presidential elections. he said that and finally admitted that he sees nothing wrong with collusion which is what happens when you accept information from a foreign entity and he said he would do it again. he sees no problem with a president of the united states being beholden to a foreign power even a foreign hostile power as one would be if you accepted information and support from a foreign government. they have their claws into you and can manipulate you. he sides with adversaries against our law enforcement. he continues to denigrate the fbi and the intelligence community. just a couple days ago he said he privilege kim jong-un's interests over that of the united states in our
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intelligence community. it's an extraordinary thing. the real question is if he's not playing on america's team then whose interest is he serving? is it just his own personal, political and financial interest or is it somebody else's? >> do you think that this is ignorance? >> no. two and a half years into this, there's no ignorance that could explain this. he and the country has gone through, as a result of what happened in 2016, and the findings of the mueller report. this is willful determined willingness to accept help from a foreign entity. jared kushner said the same thing. rudy giuliani said the same thing. they don't care. they doen't seem to care about the integrity of our leelection the integrity of our democracy.
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>> i want to play a question that katie tur asked about whether he would accept the stolen e-mails and hacked information. let's watch. >> you have any qualms about asking a foreign government, russia, china, anybody, to interfere, to hack into a system of anybody's in the country. >> that's up to the president. >> you said i welcome them to find the 30,000. >> they probably have them. i'd like to have that released. >> does that not give you pause? >> it gives me no pause. >> the voters knew what they were getting. they knew he was willing to do this. that's what he was saying in 2016 and that's what he's saying now in 2019. >> andrea, we have seen the effects. when the president of the united states who has a sacred duty to defend the constitution and uphold the security and interest of the united states is willing to privilege foreign entities
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and their interest above our national interests, we're at a moment of great concern and arguably crisis. the american people ought to be paying very close attention. not only to what was said by the president yesterday but by what is a pattern of disregard for american interests and values. we saw it well documented in the mueller report. it's a long report. i encourage those who haven't read it to take the time to read it. it's long but it's a very transparent and readable document. it's important for americans to understand just what's at stake. this is not a joke. it's not a funny tweet. this is deadly serious and it affects our integrity and our security as a nation. >> i want to ask you about iran. the japanese prime minister, shinzo abe, is in tehran meeting
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with the leader. there's a message he's transmitting. do you think there's way to further avert escalation when we had two foreign tankers attacked. we don't know from whom. we know the sailors were rescued. >> i hope there's way to deescalate. this is a very serious development today with the two tankers seemingly being attacked in the gulf following what happened last month where four vessels were hit in some fashion. tensions have been rising on both sides. there's been action and escalatory behavior. president trump has said repeatedly he doesn't want a war with iran. it seems many around him with his closest advisers are far more eager for conflict.
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this is a moment where cool heads need to prevail. we need to be clear in deterring and preventing iran from acting aggressively. we should be mindful that our actions, our efforts to strangle iran and cut off every economic avenue even while they were adhering to the nuclear deal has contributed quite substantial l to the tensions that we face. i don't know, if in fact, prime minister abe was carrying a message from the president and if he was, what it said. i think it would be wise on all sides to be looking for ways to de-es ka lacalate what is a qui dangerous situation. >> thank you for being with us. >> thank you. coming up, breaking news about one of the president's closest advisers. that's coming up next right here on andrea mitchell reports. a mis my experience with usaa
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advisers released a statement saying kellyanne conway should be terminated, fired for repeatedly violating the hatch act. a law prohibiting executive branch employees would be exceptions from engaging in political activity while speaking in a official capacity. kristen welker is handling this bombshell. >> reporter: we're getting that statement from the osc. let me read you part of it. they say she violated the hatch act by disparaging democratic presidential candidates while speaking in her official capacity during television interviews and on social media. they site some of her comments during the 2018 special election for senate in alabama. remember that involved doug jones. not surprisingly, the white house firing back defiant saying this. this office of special counsel unprecedented actions against kellyanne conway are flawed and
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violate her rights to freedom of speech. translation, doesn't seem like at this point the white house has any intention of following the osc's recommendation that kellyanne conway should be removed. she was one of the key figures during the trump campaign and brought onto the white house as special counsel to the president. again, yet another controversy looming over this white house today. >> thank you so much. kellyanne conway has not responded yet. >> reporter: has not responded. i did reach out the her. thank you. the u.s. navy is responding to attacks on two oil tankers off the coast of iran as tensions are escalating in the middle east. video now obtained from iranian state television shows smoke billowing from what is said to be one of the tankers involved.
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the 44 sailors have been rescued. sarah sanders says the president has been briefed and the u.s. government is providing assistance and continue to assess the situation. joining me now is richard engel. this has been a series of escalating tensions in the area for the last month or more than a month starting with sanctions being applied. notice from u.s. sources that the iranian ships were threatening ships and the tankers attributed by u.s. intelligence to iranian sources. what do we know about this today? >> this is building. one former u.s. military official told me that the
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situation brewing in the gulf right now which, as you just laid out, has been escalating almost every week for the last month or so. could end up being president trump's first real and serious foreign policy challenge. this is the second incident in a month that we have had. the second incident apparent attack on commercial shipping in the straits of hormuz or near the straits of hormuz. the first one happened a month ago. there are some key differences to what happened a month ago and to what happened today that help you understand why that was an escalation. first of all, the straits of hormuz is one of really a half dozen strategic, truly important waterways in the middle east. the straits of hormuz is vital as an oil shipping lane. it's like an oil sea highway where oil from the middle east
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goes out to the rest of the world. four tankers were hit while they were at anchor just off the united arab emirates. john bolton blamed iran. this time the tankers weren't moving. they had skrus left the straits of hormuz and heading out when they were hit by something. there's been different explanations. some said it was a torpedo or shells or shells. they were on the move. this would be an escalation. the question is who did it. the suspicion is this was iran. the iranian foreign minister
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come out and suggested that iran is being framed. iran's enemies are trying to set up the country. >> it's so complicated the situation whether iran would do this when japan's prime minister is in tehran. there's meetings with the supreme leader. reported message that we have not confirmed because a message he's carrying from president trump recently visiting to somehow de-escalate this. >> reporter: even more interesting. also even more interesting than that. >> over which way to go with iran. >> reporter: think about it this way. shinzo abe was there with some sort of message from president trump to the iranian leadership, the supreme leader in iran. unclear if this was a written message or a peace offering because he was there and said to he was there the try to ease the
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tensions. while the japanese prime minister is there, the first time that a japanese prime minister has been there since the 1979 revolution then these two tankers are hit and guess what, the tankers are carrying japanese products. if this was a message to iran, it would be quite an embarrassing one, quite a diplomatic blow hitting the hips car -- ships carrying japanese cargo while the prime minister is there on historic peace mission meeting with the iranian supreme leader. >> oil prices are presumably still going up. thank you so much. next, nancy pelosi calling the president's comments an assault on democracy. have they changed her mind on
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slamming president trump's remarks about accepting foreign interference but still holding the line against opening impeachment hearings despite pressure from her caucus. joining me is susan page. susan, you were at the news conference. how much pressure is building on her? she seems very firm against starting what would be an impeachment inquiry? >> you see increasing pressure, including from the democratic presidential contenders in support of impeachment. while she was critical of what the president said rgs s, she s was not a trigger that made her anymore likely to move toward impeachment. they will continue with their strategy of investigating through congressional committees. she noted they were having some success in going to courts to try to demand testimony and documents from the white house.
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that is clearly her preferred path. >> you talked about the democratic candidates. we have a combination of some of their comments because they were very quick to jump on this. let's watch. >> he is yet again open to the idea of working with foreign governments to undermine the integrity of our election system. it's outrageous. it tells me the guy doesn't understand the job and can't do it well. >> we have a president who neither understands the constitution of the united states or respects the constitution. >> i think the president's answer yesterday underscores the importance of moving forward with impeachment. >> is this president going to keep building? is it going to become an impossible challenge for nancy pelosi? >> it's going to keep building. i don't know whether it becomes impossible but it's very clear that her position is more and more conflicted. what she is saying is the
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president is a existential threat to democracy. previously she said she wants to see him locked up but she's not going to move aggressively to do anything about it or more aggressively. you can see the tension between those two points. that's being picked up within the democratic caucus where the numbers are increasing for people calling for impeachment proceedings today. congressman eric swallwell and a close pelosi ally did finally come out for impeachment inquiry proceedings and that i believe makes majority of the house democrats who have done so. momentum is building. pelosi is not enamored with the idea but her position has problems logically and i think it will be difficult for her to maintain this position. >> this clock is a factor here. at a certain point in the campaign process, once you get into the fall, it will be very
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difficult once 2020 is upon us. >> that's right. there are tactical concerns you're raising. i think the speaker's position is untenable long term. she's hoping to run out the clock, i think. really in her mind and the minds of many democrats, though not all, the number one goal is to make sure that donald trump loses this election. if that's your number one goal and you think that moving forward with impeachment is going to put that at risk, as i believe the speaker does, then you're pretty weary of that. i don't know about the wisdom. i don't know that anyone has a perfect scenario of how that would really play out. the number of undecided voters around the country is so small as well. it's hard to see that someone would be persuaded either way by impeachment to say the democrats are going too far. i'm not sure i buy that. at the same time it's a risk and it's a risk that the speaker doesn't want the take. >> isn't it also a risk to keep
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going forward with six different committees firing off subpoenas, contempt citations, legal procedures that aren't getting anywhere in term of getting a public witness testifying. hope hicks will come next week. it will be in private as don junior's was yesterday and they're not getting the display, the public narrative, the movie, if you will of the mueller report for those who are not willing to read the book. >> that's true. the john dean testimony didn't capture the public imagination in the way that some democrats on the judiciary committee had hoped it would. on the other hand, when you look at the democratic plemembers ofe house who are supporting impeachment, it includes fair share on the judiciary committee, it's not close to those in caucus and it does not include democrat who is are running in swing districts.
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democrats who flipped districts in 2018 and gave democrats the power to investigate through their committees. that's the plabalancing act. >> she's got to worry about losing the house. >> let me add one thing. when you talk to people in the caucus, one of the things that they are very sensitive of is the perception that they are eager or itching for this, leadership, that is. what pelosi is trying to do is come off as if she's being forced into this more aggressive posture and into impeachment proceedings. she doesn't want it to come off as a democratic itch. she wants democrats to pursue other legislative priorities. it will look like she was compelled to do it by trump himself. i don't know if that's tenable. you see the contorted arguments. another close pelosi ally responding to the news of donald trump's comments yesterday by saying it looks like trump is trying to bait them into doing
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impeachment. that doesn't strike me as obvious or honest, to be honest. trump says these things all the time. pelosi is in a difficult bind here. >> thank you so much. tune in tonight to nbc nightly news for my exclusive interview with anita hill. we'll have the full interview tomorrow right here on andrea mitchell reports. congress takes its first major deep dive into the threat of deep fake. the danger of artificial intelligence generated data ahead. stay with us on msnbc. data ahead. stay wh itus on msnbc. let me ask you something. can the past help you write the future? can you feel calm in the eye of a storm? can you do more with less? can you raise the bar while reducing your footprint?
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>> who can forget this moment at the grammys when lady gaga honored elton john. look now. cooper. but look now. >> it is an honor -- >> that's not lady gaga standing next to bradley cooper. that's me, my face replacing lady gaga. there at the grammys, there i am again. >> every facial expression lady gaga makes, morgan makes. effectively we've put morgan at the golden globes. >> how did he make a convincing fake? with free software, a regular desktop computer and basic computing. >> joining me now, morgan radford and ben collins. if you're going to play lady gaga, get the diamonds.
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>> i chose the right person, right? >> how scary is that? and we've seen what's happened. we have computerized videos being distorted. nancy pelosi is angry at facebook for not taking down that altered video. tell me how easily this can be done? >> super easily. >> just to make that video, andrea, i had to stand in front of a computer screen for 10 or 15 minutes. they were able to do it so quickly with basic software, which is why i think when i interviewed congressman schiff. he was saying, how severely can this impact our elections. two, how do we protect ourselves, especially when so many of these videos are being made overseas. what is the u.s.'s role and how can we protect our citizens. >> we have examples we can show of mark zuckerberg and barack obama. other altered videos. you can see how easily this can
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be done. there are real national security implications. >> this is what people are worried before. if you drop one of these videos that's really explosive a day before the election, not even reporters can track this down fast enough. we don't have the detection to pull it off. by the time the political cycle ends, who knows what's going to happen with it. >> these things can be made in seconds by random people. the nancy pelosi video did not take long to make. it happened again on free software. >> these people that do this are outside the country beyond the reach of our law. >> the nancy pelosi video was made in the country by some guy that is unemployed. these other videos -- i talked to a guy in the czech republic. it took him a day to make the most convincing one i've seen in my life. he said he's not going to do politics. that doesn't mean others aren't.
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he got offers from people after he posted his on youtube. this is going to be a thing unfortunately for us. >> at this hearing today, one of our contributors was one of the witnesses with adam schiff. >> how do we deter this kind of foreign meddling, realizing that is only going to be one part of the problem. >> if we're going to have impressenations or manipulation that don't reflect what we've done or said. platforms should take it down. >> there's several parts. we have to have a plan. we have to respond quickly. this has note been the tradition of our government. >> what about the social media companies. they have been widely criticized for not responding. and there's growing pressure for
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more government regulation. >> it's sort of a mess in terms of speech here. if you take down one of these videos. why that one and not some other cgi video. you can't -- that's the argument made by facebook. they're taking down misinformation accounts left and right. really they haven't -- they haven't melded one specific policy from all of the tertiary policies they put together. that's going to be the issue here. we have this specific example of nancy pelosi being targeted by a bad actor. they won't take them down. when we get one of these a day in 2020, they may want to reverse course in that. >> the the question is not just what they will do, but what they can do. we're working to increase our technologies at the same speed these other technologies are happening, we also don't know if we can completely clamp down on this disinformation. twitter on the other hand said, we're trying to do the same
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thing. we don't want people to manipulate our platform. we don't want to be in a position where we have to determine what is true and what is false. >> one of the things we saw already is the preponderance of fake accounts, bots started by the internet research agency in st. petersburg, and pretendings to be groups similar to black lives matter and others to create more divisions in society. it's not only the video, but creating separate groups that don't even exist. the protest rallies we covered that ended up to be russian -- >> that's the larger more persistent threat here too. those things can be done much faster. putting different context or a different headline over specific videos. that's just as bad of a problem as these high-tech ones. we haven't figured that out either. >> how do we react as consumers. >> big questions and our government doesn't seem eager to take it on. >> thank you so much. ben collins, great to see you.
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and that does it for this edition of andrea mitchell reports, tune in tonight for nightly news for my exclusive report with akneel ta hill. her first television interview since vice president biden announced he's running for office. follow the show online, on facebook and twitter. >> i'm going to be watching that for sure. >> hello, everyone i'm in for ali and stephanie. it is thursday june 13th. president trump doing double time -- his campaign would be open to getting damaging information on an opponent from a foreign country. in the face of criticism the president tweeted this morning, comparing campaign meetings with the
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