that will do it for this hour of msnbc live. be sure to check back right here on saturday at t2:00 p.m. eastern. i won't be here but someone will. the news continues with my colleague. >> someone will be there. >> someone will. i guarantee you. there will be a lot happening. >> have a good weekend. >> thank you. i'm richard luie. ten days before the first democratic presidential candidate. beto o'rourke has a campaign trail to himself. all to himself today. the former texas congressman making four stops in south carolina where he focused on inclusion. >> it's not matter of where you are on the progressive spectrum. it's matter of who you include into the conversation and we are including every one. we could care less about the differences between us.

we want to bring us all in and together around the big challenges before us. >> not all of beto o'rourke's competitors were taking the day off. a couple getting their messages out. pete buttigieg hitting a t trifecta of shows. chuck todd pushed him on whether he would pursue charges on donald trump if he was elected. >> how do you change the channel and prosecute the former president at the same time? >> changing the channel means focusing ou how to make people's lives better. if there's investigations going on into criminal behavior by people who were at the highest levels in our government, so be it. bernie sanders facing the fire on fox news. while he was pressed on his stance on economic socialism. >> we need an economy and a government that works for all of us, not just the 1%.

if people want to accuse me of believing in that, i plead guilty. >> all of this as a new poll shows some shifts when it comes to the enthusiasm race among the top candidates. 66% of democrats say they are enthusiast basic or comfortable about a joe biden candidacy. that's down from march. elizabeth warren is up to 64% and bernie sanders is at 56%, down six points himself. one person not happy about the 2020 poll, donald trump. after a leak of polling showing the president trailing biden in 11 critical battleground state, the president did this and did what you expected. his campaign firing the pollster. the issue of pink slips coming up on whether trump had the right to fire robert mueller if he wanted to? >> you talk about article two.

your position is that you can hire or fire anybody, stop or stop. >> that's the position of a lot of great lawyers. that's the position of some of the most talented lawyers and you have to have a position like that because you're the president. without even bringing up article two, which absolutely gives you every right. >> let's get started with our nbc news road warrior who is following beto o'rourke in south carolina. this is a poll that you know well. b beto only up 4%. how is he handling that situation? >> reporter: he's handling it the same way he handles everything by diving sbook the ground game. being on the road. we have seen this so much from him. four events in south carolina. he has the road to himself today. the only one of the 23 candidates out campaigning.

a lot of these other folks doing television and starting to prepare for the debate. we all knew was going to be important. we'll talk more about the zk tk poll in second but all of these polls are starting to look largely the same. we're seeing joe biden at the top. his support slipping a bit is since he got into the race. elizabeth warren creeping into the second pspot. i asked what he would see as success. >> i want those who watch the debate to know why i'm running the campaign on father's day. i'm thinking about my kids and the fact they are counting on us. all of our kids at a very divided moment, at a time when this democracy is so broken, the only way to realize our potential is to bring people in and together. >> reporter: in talking to voters in all the different

campaign es vevents, there's on them and momentum seems to beget further moment. folks like joe biden because they think he is strong and can beat president trump. i used to hear people tell me how much they loved elizabeth warren. as her numbers started to tick up, that generated even more. all these other campaigns are looking at that dynamic and looking for the one thing that can make their numbers go up one point or two and start that upward growth. nobody i talked to feels like they are out of this thing yet. >> one of the things you're talk about the poll is the number of one percenters. they are not seeing momentum that voters could hop on board with. >> reporter: those folks have

been out on the campaign trial. i think some of these governors, current and former, these are folk who is have whole states that they are in charge of. the difference for those candidates and why they still have hope, they have qualified for these debates. they will get a moment on the stage. it's not as though voters and the rest of the country have had a good solid look at the candidates and rejected them. they haven't seem them yet. i think the danger is greater for candidates who start high and sink low. the candidates ovhovering aroun 1%. all of those candidate, i can't speak for all 23 or all of those 1 percent feel like if they get a moment they can get good look from the american public. >> thank you so much, sir. other candidates are also getting ready for the first democratic debate ten days from

now. >> sloetevoters have a lot to b thrilled about. they will see us together on a national stage. >> what topic do you think will be your moment? >> you can't make the mistake of just trying to go viral. i think that would be the wrong approach pp i'm goi approach. i'm going to try to be myself. >> you'll see what unifies or spae party is more important than what devieivides us. >> dealing with donald trump for decades, how to take him on. >> i'm going to figure out what it's like to talk for 60 seconds and then you have to quit and what it's like with so many people on stage. i'm not sure how to prepare for that. >> elizabeth warren will be the highest polling candidate on night one. night two will feature joe

biden, bernie sanders, pete buttigieg, kamala harris. joing us to talk about it is bernie sanders campaign management. why is bernie sanders good for america in. >> he offers a unique vision among his fellow colleagues in the field and that is to guarantee economic rights as human rights. he understands that corporate greed and a few powerful billionaires are controlling our lives. everything from health care, education, ruining the climate. causing us to engage in endless wars. she the candidate that has the trust and credibility to take them on. he's been doing that for his entire life. he has a certain credibility that you know he won't flinch. >> why are the, as you look at the poll numbers, why do you see

the in your opinionumbers for y understand falling? >> i see a lot of people kicking the tires on a lot of different candidates. if you look at this same time, the republican primary had jep bush in first place and trump was out 1%. i'm telling you the polls drive us. they motivate our supporters. we see the establishment counts us out. they did that in 2015. we're going to say we have to work even harder. >> bernie sanders, can you be a two-peat? >> we're investing a lot on the ground. lots of volunteers and supporters. we feel good about our ground operations. we're going to make a super strong effort here come ng the

summer and early fall to demonstrate that the movement is strong and growing stronger. as we plain to voters there's only one candidate in field who is willing to mobilize and thinking about mobilizing millions of people and listing them into service. challenging poweringful special interest. change our government in a transformative way. i think people will grave at a time toward that. sfwlp how do you discuss the issue of age? >> there's a lot of people. the president of the united states. there's vice president biden. what we need to make clear to people is you're voting for vision. that's the thing that people want to feel like is the most important thing they're voting on. with bernie sanders you have

someone willing to take on special interests. who do you trust to change the system when you stack those issues up. i believe bernie sanders stands out ahead of the pack. >> how is bernie sanders going to address this on the debate stage when those from the right and left of where he is at, discuss the issue of democratic socialism? >> this is the debate we want to have. when you think a bt our held care system and you see tens of millions of whoent have health insurance and you're saying why is this system failing us? we've been trying to ticker with it for ages. tweet it here and there. it's corporate greed. the incentive to screw people over. who will change that and come in and say single payor, we're removing them out. that's the debate we want to have. when we make that argument we

feel like people will understand that economic rights is human rights. >> will that work in the general in. >> yeah. this is a debate that i think we want to have. look at the head to heads. the states you need to win in order for democrat to be in the white house. they know him. there's 100% id about this guy. this is the reason we want to put him up against donald trump. >> thank you for stopping by. i know you're quite briz zi from the bernie sanders campaign. thank you. joining me now is democratic congressman of virginia. also a biden campaign surrogate. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> why is joe biden good for network. >> joe biden is good for america

because he had a experience, the wisdom and progressive values that americans are looking for. of all the candidates, joe biden is the only one that can bring us back to the international stage. >> you have heard the discussion that i just had from the sanders campaign and i'll ask you the same question here. how do you discuss the issue of age now? it's on the campaign trial? >> the voters will decide the aging issue for themselves and doesn't need to be discussed. if it's important to them, they'll vote on it. what you have in joe biden is the experience. with that age comes a business come. with that age comes experience. >> your best days are ahead of

you if you get women to vote for you candidate. the hooids amendment reversal which you have seen happened in the last couple of weeks. there's the tu of a-- issue of anita hill. do you think that joe biden has the right message and policy snl. >> absolutely. the first act that the obama-biden was ledbetter fair pay act. he believed anita hill. just believe iing it in a timel fashion. we got an attempt to pass the international violence against

women's act so that would be part of our nation's foreign policy. >> i want to go to the poll that came out today. wall street journal, nbc news poll shows that joe biden in terms of enthusiasm losing 7 percentage points. you can see that now versus march. what does that tell you? >> the poll numbers are going to be all over the place from here till the end. it is incredibly hard to maintain high poll numbers from start to finish. we anticipate that they'll change but, look, 66% which is the number that you quoted is pretty doggone good. >> that's worth 66% maybe. >> thank you. >> let's go to this. when you look at what joe biden needs to do during the debates, what's the win? >> i think he has to be himself.

he's a plain spoken person. he connects well with the voters. if he's just joe biden, he will knock it out of the park. >> thank you so much. >> thank you for the opportunity. >> we're just ten days away from the first 2020 debates. june 26 and june 27 in miami. coming up, red, white and you. what voters across the country want the hear from the candidates. he country want the hear from the candidates >> it's a trying time in the nation and i think a lot of people say this is an important election. see what the fate of our country goes and i do agree. freedom is the ability to go where you wanna go...

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welcome back. now it's time for red, white and you as the 2020 democratic field gets ready for their first debate a week from wednesday, we want to know what issues are most important to voters. one issue that seems to be on a lot of minds there, immigration. >> immigration isn't just the people in the fields. it goes much deeper than that. they are the people working behind the scenes at restaurants. the people working behind the scenes cleaning buildings or

doing landscaping. even constructing the homes we live in. >> we let the people in to work and now it's hypocrite cal to say you've been here working and contributing even though you may be undocumented but america takes advantage of these people. >> it's sad to think they should be let over there on the border. it's not right. >> what are we going to do? how are we going to get service? how are the people going to get any kind of service? >> we are really hard workers. we're here to make our money like everybody else and to not just see us as latinos. we're all american. >> from there we go north to seattle, home of amazon. big tech there was a big topic. >> i think elizabeth warren proposal is moving our government to its original if you thinks in terms of monopoly powers. >> what's happening on the ground is that most people are drowning. the people who make seattle run,

janitors, hotel workers, the people building in office towers are not able to afford to rent an apartment in yaseattle yet alone buy a home. >> one topic seemed to resonate. >> the critical issue on your mind. >> health care. >> pretty much across the board is to support medicare for all. >> we got off of it last year. >> why? >> because it's too much. s >> you're going without health care? >> yeah. >> how is that? >> always hard because you're always lingering. you're always thinking about what if. >> same topic in new hampshire. a piece from the concord monitor reads health care for all is a worthy goal adding we believe greater access to health care will ultimately save money. on the issue of race, a piece in the post says presidential hopefuls should pry your advertise issues important to black americans adding black voters are a crucial swing vote.

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when mexico sends it people, they're not sending their best. they are bringing drugs. they're bringing crime. they're rapists and some, i assume, are good people. >> that was donald trump four years ago today launching his 2016 presidential campaign with controversy after a trip down that golden escalatoescalator. that would be the constant as he navigated through the kpam acam nan -- campaign and in the white house. trump was dealing with a crisis of his own making. >> he's a war a hero because he was captured. i like people that wasn't captured. >> russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. i think you will probably be

rewarded mightily by our press. >> donald trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. >> when you're a star they let you do it. you can do anything. grab them by the [ bleep ]. >> i think there's blame on both sides. i have no doubt about it and you don't have any doubt about it either. >> i have president putin, he just said it's not russia. i don't see any reason why it would be. >> if somebody called from a country, norway, we have information on our opponent. i think i'd want to hear it. >> today we got more of the president continue that fight against the mueller report in his interview. >> excuse me, they found no collusion and he didn't find

anything having to do with obstruction. >> they didn't examine collusion. >> are you trying to say now there was no collusion even though he said there's no collusion. >> he didn't say there's no collusion. >> he said no collusion. >> another constant appears to be his approval rating. 44% approving of the job that trump is doing. 53% disprooapproving. it really hasn't moved much and has remained just about that same level for his entire pr presidency to date. the poll shows a growing number of people in favor of impeaching the president. it's 27% supporting impeachment. that number is up ten points since march. most of that growth came from democrats. 48% wanting immediate impeachment hearings up 18 poibts in opoib points in one month.

>> i believe the president deserves to be impeached. >> he obstructed justice and then hired an attorney general to clean up the crime scene. we need to begin impeachment proceedings and we need a new commander in chief. >> i don't think we can wait any longer. our democracy is at risk. >> it seems this is way beyond politics. this is about the constitutional oath that we took and it's a constitutional oath that no one is above the law and that includes the president of the united states. i believe impeachment proceeding should start. >> there's the breakthrough moments in life. that interview said he's learned nothing. he's not making any changes. he's not moderating. he has to be impeached. >> i take no joy in this at all but i have a duty and responsibility and that's led me to think we have to do this. >> even though he's yes on

impeachment. senator cory booker is more than a trump referendum. >> this is not a referendum on donald trump. this election is a referendum on who we are and who we're going to be to each other. >> let's bring in our road warrior vaughn hilliard. you've been all sorts of different places. we'll start with you. amaril amarillo, texas is your stop on your road trip across the country. as we were playing the sown und you were in the west, you've got a sense of what voters are anying and what are they thinking in terms of who might pop, for instance, in that tier 3 or the 1 percenters? >> reporter: good afternoon. it comes down to you have the democratic debate here coming up in ten bays. when talking to voters on the ground, it's not just democrat

who is are watching this debate. there's independents and republicans along the way that we have also talked to. yes, while the president maybe announced four years ago, this upcoming friday will be two and a half years since the start of his administration. there's a record now on which the president is are you positiving on and the democrats are comparing themselves to and frankly, these voters that we have talked to are beginning to look at the last two and a half years, the body of work by this administration whether it be on the trade war. whether it be on health care looking at the failed effort to repeal the affordable care act. there's one gentleman we talked to in nevada two days ago who said the republicans didn't come up with a better alalternative. he said he be will be watching. there's a broader audience here that will be watching this. four years ago there are 18 million people that watch that debate between bernie sanders, hillary clinton and martin

o'malley. we can expect the number to be higher than that. when talking to folks on the ground here, we keep hearing passionate answers in terms of their believes when it comes to issues. whether it's comes to candidates, they are a little more iffy but they have very specific policies they want to hear from the candidates and looking to discern between that field of 23. >> talking about the issues and the criteria. they will apply that to when they watch the first debates on june 26 and 27. south carolina, busy weekend. you can see biden losing nine. warren seems to have pushing for plus nine there. what are you see ng south

carolina as to why this is changing? >> warren has been surging. i've been noticing that not only at her events but when i go to other candidate's events and ask folk who is are undecided which candidates they are interested in. every single voter seems like they talk to they are considering elizabeth warren if not making her their favorite. >> do they tell you why? >> folks have talked in specific policy. student loans, student debt comes up to me. folks talk in general about the well known perception of her of having a plan. that reputation is widely known at this point. it has served her well.

he's the most trusted in the african-american community which is the decisive demographic in south carolina. some of them will have a chance to introduce themselves to voters. >> daniel, who is undecided? vaughn was talking about there are those independents and those who have not made up their mine. they are thinking about key issues important to them? >> i think a lot of the democratic parties is undecided. that's why we're seeing dramatic movements. joe biden's numbers are slipping. there's some erosion because there are a lot of democrats who

aren't fully decided on choices and say they prefer one candidate right now. maybe they prefer warren or buttigieg but that could change. they are still shopping around in this primary. >> the poll that came out within the last week here, you saw the match ups here. it looks very good for just about all the democrats except if you're kamala harris or bernie sanders. really, really close. i guess the concern for the democrats there if you're on the ground for any one of these campaigns, can you overplay your card here. it's never turned, at least so far, it's never turned blue. there's a big hope from the democratic side that could happen. >> exactly. that's why the democratic party is having this conversation about it. you go and win the likes of wisconsin and the likes of pennsylvania or pennsylvania and michigan and the field is open. kwhou can take michigan, georgia

even but there's the states here. texas which beto o'rourke lost by 2.5 percentage points. look next door, two doors down over in arizona. the democrat beat martha mcsally by several percent an points. if you win, if you're a democratic nominee, win. if you're able to take arizona and texas would be quite the snatch, you're talking about a map that's much different for this democratic party looking beyond 2020. >> a part of that margin you're discussing there, black voters.

>> that is the ticket here in south carolina. it's the reason why certain campaigns have been more focussed here than they have been in iowa, new hampshire or less focussed depending ho inin they think their candidacy could be. kamala harris has been laying down a significant ground game here and has picked up some important endorsements. bernie sanders has been trying harder in the african-american community than he did in south carolina and that is getting noticed as well and cory booker has been spending a lot of time here. they have spent by far the most of any candidates in the field. that's going do be all important. they are not going to change their mind os on a whim and go with somebody they don't know.

>> definitely a long time ago compare tods whd to what we're about now and how these candidates will resonate with that particular voting block as well as other minority voting blocks. >> yeah, i mean look, we have seen over the past two cycles in the mid term elections that the democratic party has put a increasing effort to reach out to african-american voters. i think that's part of the reason we haven't seen a huge amount of enthusiasm among the candidates.

they know who joe biden is. i think that will change over time. that's what the charleston poll showed us today. >> very quickly here is asked in south carolina yesterday, one voter said i didn't know cory booker was african-american. that really does resonate to the point you're making where the voters are still learning and still deciding. >> that's really a remarkable thing for a voter to say because booker has made efforts to do a lot of canvassing. a lot of campaigning for candidates around the country especially in the mid terms. he's often been the first surrogate on the ground for key races be it mississippi or anywhere in the south. >> within the last cycle. great to have three good brains here to talk about what we're going through right now. appreciate it. have a good sunday. coming up, the big idea. nbc news asking the 2020 democrats to pick the issue they hope defines their candidacy.

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they're ready for change and i got a plan for that. >> senator elizabeth warren has made her i have a plan for that a mantra during her campaign stops but she's not the only one. all the 23 democratic presidential candidates have proposals on a slew of issues. harry smith started a serioes

looking at each candidate's big idea. pete buttigieg would include same day election. >> twice in my young lifetime, i see the american people overruled. . it's time for that to go because it's undemocratic. >> senator kirsten gillibrand chose paid family leave for her big idea. it would call for three months a paid leave up to 66% of a person's pay rate. she said the cost would be minimal. >> is it worth it to you to pay $2 a week to know it will be there for you when you need it. opponent will say it's a tax but it's an investment that over your lifetime will help you. >> former colorado governor john hickenlooper wants focus on kills training. a apprentice program aimed at young people who do not get a

four year college diploma. it came from personal experience. >> i got lads oid off oz a geologist. >> julian castro wants to see pre-k. >> the price tag would have been about $75 billion. it does cost to invest in great education for three and four-year-olds but it's a lot cheaper than a year of prison. >> bernie sanders big idea should be familiar to anyone who followed the vermont senator, medicare for all. a four year expansion of the program to all americans eliminating need for private insurance. >> bottom line is medicare is the most popular health

insurance program in america. far more popular than private health insurance policies. we think if we expand medicare over a four year period to all people, you'll see a lot of people being very satisfied. >> the big idea that senator kamala harris offered is a teacher pay raise that would give every teach a $13,500 raise. harris will pay for what she estimates a $315 billion cost by raising the estate texas. >> the teachers union massive, mms of people. let's give them $13,000 each. the just a play to that crowd? >> absolutely not. i will tell you my entire career and my entire life have been focused on education. my first grade teacher, god rest her soul, attended my law school graduation. >> that's just the first batch of big ideas. nbc nightly news correspondent harry smith has more many to come. we'll share them. be sure to watch nightly news for the next one and watch this

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establishment incumbent. thank you for being with us. >> thank y'all so much for having me. >> why are you good for texas? >> why am i good for texas because i have the best experience that the people in south texas need in congress. i was born and raised in laredo, texas. i'm the daughter of mexican immigrants and i'm trying to bring that every day south texas experience to congress and from a young age, he was elected when i was 11 years old. i'm 26 years old now. he's catering to outside interests such as the koch brothers, the nra and neglecting the people of south texas. i'm here to advocate for them. >> he did quite well in 2016. coming up to 2020, the question is would you be able to win? if you are able to win, how are you going to do it?

how much money have you raised might be one question those who are considering your candidacy here. >> we started off with an ambitious goal of 100,000 there are and a lot of people were telling us, that's crazy. south texas isn't really for progressive like you. they aren't ready. we proved them wrong. in 48 hours we're able to raise that money. as a woman of color i'm used to hearing you can't do that or that but we went out there and provered them wrong because timeout sx is ready for change. >> solidly a blue seat. 84% of the vote is what we got last fall. he did not face the republican challenger here. how will you go up somebody that has such strength with the voter base now? >> i think that's a myth. he hasn't bandaeen challenged b

true democrat since 2006. the people had been voting for him. they had no other choice. for 14 years nobody has done that. they were surprised that somebody that is running for congress was down there talking to them about their issues because he hasn't been doing that at all. >> you know the approval rate ra ing for congress is not high? >> i'm going to provide the every day experience of south texans. i know the issues. i'm making it part of my campaign to incorporate the people. while he's been a campaign or

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that does it for me this week. you can reach out to me on essential media, twitter and facebook. i turn it over to politics nation. >> good evening. tonight's lead, the i question. the last few months have not pushed president trump's base away or democratic leaders closer to impeaching him but it has cracked the nation politically.