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foreign government tries to offer dirt on a political rival in 2020. and president trump weighs in on bob mueller saying he didn't fire the special counsel because of what happened to richard nixon. richard nixon. >> good monday morning. it's june 17. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside white house correspondent jeff bennett. internal numbers were leaked to the media showing joe biden ahead of trump in several key states according to one person close to the campaign who spoke to nbc news. from details in a memo that found trump trailing biden in 11 states. wisconsin, pennsylvania, florida and michigan, four states where trump edged clinton by narrow margins that proved decisive in his victory, trump trails biden.
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in other states, biden's lead sits outside the poll's margin of error and trails by 17 points in virginia, 15 in maine, 14 in minnesota, 8 in north carolina, 7 in iowa, 6 in georgia and one point in ohio. in texas where a democratic nominee, trump leads by just two points. >> last week, trump denied the existence of the internal polling and aired more of their interview yesterday. >> your own poll show you are behind, don't they? >> no. they all show i'm winning everywhere. >> we see you are behind 15 out of 17 states. >> nobody showed you those polls because those don't exist. i just had a meeting with somebody who is a polster and
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i'm winning everywhere. a few seconds later, he has to go off the record to call his campaign manager. >> hold off a second and i want to call brad and ask him that question. >> despite the greatest presidential harassment of all time by people that are very dishonest and want to destroy our country, we are doing great in the polls even better than in 2016. a fox news poll finds president trump trailing several democratic 2020 contenders with joe biden topping trump by 10 points, 49% by 39%. bernie sanders leads by nine points and elizabeth warren leads by two points.
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>> in new portions of his abc interview, president trump said he is not worried that his attacks on the media and perceived enemies are hurting the country. >> you are here and it seems like you feel this need to push back at perceived enemies. >> no. at false stories and fake news. nobody has any idea how corrupt the media is. not all of it. >> when you need the media at the time of national crisis, we are not going to have the kind of unity we need. >> i'm not worried about it. >> thank you for joining us. as we are reporting, it seems like the trump campaign is pretty rattled by some of these polls where he is trailing several 2020 democrats.
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could we see the president in his campaign shake up the strategy a bit here? >> i think we are already actually seeing that. the president up until this point has really stuck to conservative media, his allies and fox news an other conservative outlets. the georinterview where it seem like the president is branching out and trying to reach out to a larger portion of the electorate realizing he needs to get beyond the 45% of his conservative base that has stuck with him through thick and thin up until this point. he realizes that if he wants to recreate the magic of 2016, winning florida and michigan and wisconsin and other key states,
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he needs to get beyond that 45% threshold. it is interesting, he has been able to hold on to those folks but he realizes that he has a big challenge ahead of him. >> what do you make of internal numbers that makes for those losing against 2020 democratic contenders. he's almost under water in ruby red texas. >> the president is enormously unpopular in the country with a big portion of the electorate of the voters. that is in part why i think the president and his campaign realize he needs to turn things around, as you mentioned, shake things up a little bit. we will see the president go down to florida tomorrow, tuesday to officially kick off his reelection campaign.
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i think florida, orlando specifically is significant in that florida twice went for president obama during his tenure and then flipped and went for president trump in 2016 and 2018 during a horrible year for republicans last fall, republicans saw bright spots in florida winning a senate seat and governorship by the slimmest of margins and won it nonetheless. i think the president and his people see florida as a bright spot and somewhere where they can continue to make in roads. >> that being said, we are about a year and a half out from the election now. how much do we actually make of these polls at this appointment? how do you think the president fairs in interviews like we've been watching? i imagine he'll be doing much more of those in the coming months?
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>> i think the president said that himself that people would be seeing him more, perhaps on more diverse networks and in interpret interviews like this one over the weekend. the president did call these numbers phoney fake numbers as he often does. on the other hand, his own campaign has acknowledged that those leaked internal memos were specific and were accurate. so a little bit of a mixed message between the president and his own campaign. >> until they turn in his favor. then he'll be touting them. >> all too predictable at this point. >> scott wong, thank you so much. secretary of state mike pompeo is defending president trump's comments from last week.
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on fox news yesterday, he dismissed questions when the president was asked if given dirt. >> is accepting oppo research right or wrong. >> you told me not to call any of your questions today ridiculous. that was really close right there. president trump made it very clear. he said i'd do both and call the fbi. >> he said maybe i'd do both. >> president trump is clear that he will always make sure he'll get it right for the american people. i'm confident he'll do it here as well. >> the president told fox and friends on friday and i agree. he kind of walked it back. >> no, he didn't. >> he did. he said maybe and then friday, he said he'd listen first and if it was bad, he'd take it to the fbi or attorney general.
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he made it clear that he did not see this as foreign interference. he said it is not interference, it's information. the country has a long history dating back to george washington in saying that foreign interference in our elections is unacceptable. >> this president trump believes that too and nothing further to add. >> mike pompeo also says more information on the attack in the gulf of onan is coming. some allies have requested strong ever evidence than the video that appears to show the iranian patrol boat that appears to remove an unexploded mine from one of the ships. >> this was a clear intent to deny transit through the straight. no doubt, there is lots of data and evidence. we don't want war.
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we've done what we can to doe t detour this. >> saudi arabian crowned prince said the country would not pause in confronting iran. telling reporters this, the kingdom does not want war in the region but we will not accept any threat to our people, our country or vital interests. alexandria ocasio-cortez says she is not endorsing any candidate yet. she said sanders has not asked for her endorsement but he has asked for her help cosponsoring several bills which she is happy to offer. >> do you have an edge, you volunteered for his campaign? >> i think what we really need right now is a presidential candidate that is going to fight
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for the well being of working class americans and all americans. i think he does that excellently. i believe his policies do that. i believe senator warren's policies do that. i think that's what we need to be looking for. >> still ahead, some of the 2020 democratic candidates weigh in on whether president trump should be prosecuted when he leaves office. new reporting from the "new york times" that u.s. is ramping up cyber attacks on russia. what administration officials are telling the paper about that. those stories and a check on the weather when we come right back. you should be mad at tech that's unnecessarily complicated.
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he said if he were you, he would do the same thing. what is your reaction to that? >> i'm sorry? that i would prosecute? no, no. i said the department of justice will go and follow the facts wherever they lead. i believe that's what they will do and should do. >> so harris told npr last week, her administration would likely pursue charges against the president and pete buttigieg did weigh in and said the next white house should not be involved in. >> the saying her justice department would have no choice but to go ahead with charges against president trump. would your justice department do the same thing? >> my justice department would be empowered to reach its own
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conclusion. two things are clear, one, nobody is above the law. two, the justice department should have nothing to do with politics. >> joining us here, msnbc analyst. the problem was with regard to the e-mails. the problem was, he didn't necessarily have evidence to back that up. you are hearing harris dance around that. is this a bit premature to be talking about stuff like this, despite the fact that there is a 440-page mueller report? >> it may not be premature, it may be already resolved. if you look at all of the precedent, all of the mueller report, it concludes largely a
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sitting president cannot be prosecuted. we are entering this strange new phase where some candidates, their platform is whether or not they'll prosecute other politicians. we talk about no man or woman is above the law. the president may be an exception to that. the mueller report is a testimony that a sitting president may not be prosecuted. >> democrats playing on a liberal fever theme on either wanting to see president trump frog marched out of the white house. let's play out the hype thothet, if he gets two terms, could the next candidate then charge him? >> this is a great question. when you have a statute of limitations and a press that cannot be prosecuted, does a
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process called equitable tolling does a judge stop and say, do we wait until he's out and hit the pause button and restart it after he's out of office? the answer is probably no, for the most part, tolling is something we use in civil cases where you are just handing over money. where somebody's life or liberty is at stake, it is usually five years, you can't hit the pause button just because you think it would be fair. that would be unfair to a criminal defend enter. in all likelihood, if president trump is in office long enough that all the statutes against him expire, then he is probably in the clear. >> let's check the weather now with bill ckarins. >> dallas, texas dodging storms this weekend. you can see the big rain shield
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there. winds did gust 40 to 50 miles an hour. minor delays at the airport and then it was said and done. that was the scene around many areas this weekend with hit and miss storms. the storms in texas are beginning to exit the coastal areas. houston and san antonio, you are just about done. we have a little light rain in pennsylvania. later today, we will see some storms pop up. these will be stronger from washington, d.c. to baltimore, philadelphia southwards, atlantic city and new jersey, 13 million people at risk of severe storms. wind damage and maybe a little hail. the area of green is what we call a marginal risk. maybe only a couple cases of severe weather. >> let me give you the timing. here are some of the showers this morning.
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it all kind of dries up in the middle of the day. this afternoon, with the peek heating of the day, the storms will pop up. these are all the little dots and thunderstorms on the map. kentucky, west ohio valley, west virginia and virginia. on tuesday, we do it again. new york city early in the afternoon. those storms could be strong around our nation's capitol. if you have any late afternoon flights, you may get some delays out of there. today, boston, chicago you are dry. showers and storms in florida. haven't mentioned much in the west. you are very dry and hot like you wouldn't expect for the middle of june. get ready to kick in the summer. sfl protesters take to the streets of hong kong to denounce their own government and be extension, beijing.
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welcome back. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside white house correspondent jeff bennett. president trump repeatedly distorted the findings of the mueller report which said the evidence was not sufficienti. >> i have a phoney witch hunt. mueller comes out, there's no collusion and essentially a ruling no obstruction and they keep going with it. >> we don't have time for that. >> excuse. he found no collusion and he didn't find anything having to
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do with obstruction. >> he didn't examine collusion. >> are you saying he didn't find collusion. >> he didn't say no collusion. >> george, the report said no collusion. >> did you read the report. >> i did. you should read it too. come on, let's go. >> you called robert mueller honorable. why the switch? >> i'm not switching. i would hope he's honorable. he gave us no collusion. >> he did not say that. >> frankly, he did say that. >> he explicitly didn't look at collusion. >> excuse me. read the report. just read it. okay. sometimes i have false fights like the russian witch hunt. that was a made-up hoax.
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>> the report said they had a systematic approach. >> they also said we rebuffed them. mueller said we rebuffed russia. we pushed them away. we weren't interested. read the report. >> reading from the mueller report, the trump campaign welcomed help from the russian government only they never received it. in the interview, he denied mueller's firing saying he did not want to be like nixon but agreed with the phrase of, powers of the presidency. >> article two, i would be allowed to fire mueller assuming i did all of the things. number one, i didn't. he wasn't fired.
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importantly. article two allows me to do whatever i want. that would have allowed me to fire him. i wasn't going to fire him because i watched richard nixon go around firing everybody. that didn't work out very well. >> your position is that you can hire and fire anybody. >> that is the position of some of the greatest lawyers. you have to have a position like that because you are the president. without even bringing up article two, which gives you every right. >> so a president can't obstruct justice? >> the president runs the country. i run the country and i run it well. a new wall street journal poll calls for a rise in support of impeachment proceedings with 27% saying there is enough evidence to begin, up ten
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points. with a shift that shows congress must continue investigating down eight points to 24%. 48% say congress should not hold impeachment proceedings. president trump posted, almost 70% in a poll say don't impeach. the u.s. is ramping up digital attacks on russia's power grid in an effort to pursue future activity. the report that the campaign was conducted by cyber authority granted by president trump and congress. two administration officials tell the paper, they, quote, believe trump had not been briefed. while officials, quote, describe broad hesitation to go into detail on conversations against
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russia for the possibility of his reaction and the possibility that he might discuss it like back in 2017 when he mentioned a sensitive operation in syria to the russian foreign minister. a tightening race for second place with joe biden landing 32% in the fox news poll, down three points from last month while senator bernie sanders falls to 13%, just four points ahead of senator elizabeth warren at 9% with pete buttigieg and kamala harris tied. cory booker holds at 3%. the poll which will count for inclusion in the second round finds more with 2% and others at one point each. as for what democrats want, 74% say it is more important to have
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a candidate that unites around shared believes and 23% want one who fights against extreme right wing believes. 72% to provide steady leadership. 52% prefer a candidate with high ethical standards and 45% would rather have one who could defeat donald trump. president trump's election team is reportedly turning attention to a new target, senator elizabeth warren. according to politico, while the president and his team have been focused mostly on vice president joe biden, warren's resent rise has them thinking she could also be a potential threat. stating that her style and pop u lift style with the ability to
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win over female voters. it adds that initially believed their money and man power were better served elsewhere but now digging up research and preparing to brand warren as a liberal extremist. saying key states threaten to undercut his support from working class voters who propelled him to the presidency. >> joining us again from washington, scott wong. what do you make of president trump's focus on other threats like elizabeth warren? >> i think what it shows is that this race for the democratic nomination in 2020 is really wide open. joe biden, the former vice president has been the front runner for a number of months. that could all change in an
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instant. we expected joe biden to be out front early because of his name i.d. and serving eight years under president obama as more and more americans tune in to this 2020 race and start to get expose you're exposure to some of these other candidates, i think we'll see other folks like senator warren and pete buttigieg start to rise. it remains to be seen whether this is a race where one person is able to maintain the lead throughout the entire long campaign or if it will resemble something more like 2012 on the republican side where you saw a different candidate surge every different month. these debates in florida in a couple weeks, two debates will be very telling to see who can catch fire and propel themselves into the front-runner status.
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>> taking a look at the nbc poll with 20% of people saying there is enough evidence to begin impeachment proceedings. and others saying congress should not hold impeachment proceedings. that number 27 up 10 points. are lawmakers taking into account some of these polls we are seeing with regards to impeachment when making a decision as to whether or not when and if they will move forward? >> i think so. i think as you are starting to see impeachment become more and more popular in the democratic party now at almost one in two democrats in the country believe an impeachment inquiry is the right step. you are seeing more and more lawmakers jump in and sign on to an impeachment inquiry. i think nancy pelosi will say let's look at the big picture. a clear majority of americans do
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not support impeachment. we need to not be distracted by this issue. we need to focus on the policy issue that helped us to win back the house in 2018 that will help propel us to victory in 2020. behind the scenes and in public, nancy pelosi is saying impeachment will tear this country apart. it could tear our party apart and really harm us. so that is obviously the continuing debate that is happening right now in the democratic party. >> thank you for your time, scott. still ahead, reporting on the president's unpaid tab for the 2017 inauguration ceremony. officials in washington are waiting on him to pay as he looks to hold a massive speech for the 4th of july. bill ckarins is back with another look at your forecast.
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welcome back. president trump each speech at the lincoln memorial on july 4th is likely to drive up security costs but he still hasn't paid for his last address at the inauguration in 2017. the trump administration and congress owe more than $7 million in expenses. the total cost was $27.3 million. as a result, the district has been forced to dip into a special fund that cover security costs in the case of terrorist threats or other events such as demonstrations, state funerals and the visits of foreign dig tarries. the fund is generally replenished but is on track to enter the red by the fall. let's check on your weather now with bill karins.
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>> train of storms. this is how we are looking this week. we had one system yesterday that brought some rain. storm system number two in the ohio valley and number three right behind it right behind this stalled front with it will come a batch of heavy rain. system number four behind it too. all will travel through the region and bring some periods of heavy rain. all this means is we have the potential for some pretty heavy rain. by friday, we watch the last of the storms exiting and it looks like we'll clear it out for friday afternoon. all of the east coast and saturday too. the area of greatest concern for all of the heavy rain and flooding is areas of kentucky and ohio. especially around the nation's capital too. this is the rainfall predictions through friday. this is five-day totals.
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this area of red and pink is upwards of three to four inches of rain. in all, 42 million people have the potential for dealing with flash flooding. the worst of it today, watch out in the mid-atlantic region. d.c., philadelphia and maybe possibly areas just south of new york city could deal with travel delays this afternoon. still ahead, another country takes new trade actions against the u.s. amid its wave of tariffs against allies. global markets are watching to see whether the federal reserve will cut interest rates. stay tuned for that. and you should be mad your smart fridge is unnecessarily complicated. but you're not mad,
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welcome back. india has imposed higher retaliatory tariffs on 28 u.s. products with the withdraw of key trade privileges. the decision took place yesterday includes tariffs on export items like apples, walnuts and almonds. earlier this month, trump scrapped the trade that would allow for tariffs on steel and other products. india called the move unfortunate. the latest trade comes as india is prepared to levy higher
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tariffs on the u.s. ahead of the meeting with president trump at the g 20 meeting later this month. last year alone, trade with india was worth $142 million. the federal reserve is facing new demands from president trump to cut interest rates but not likely to fall under pressure at a policy meeting later this week. fed chairman is expected to lay the groundwork for a cut. what can you tell us? >> that's right. it is a huge week for financial markets. i should tell you markets are already pricing in two rate cuts by the feds by the end of 2019. only about 20% probability of a cut for this coming meeting on june. that is because as you were talking about, we have the upcoming g 20 summit. it would premature to cut ahead
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of that meeting. let's not forget, they only hiked interest rates back in december. they don't want to send the signal that they perhaps made a mistake in december. the signaling will be commencement speech at stanford over the weekend. a little bit surprising there. he actually used it to take a shot at other silicon valley companies and said that that they need to take responsibility for the chaos that they create. he did say there's false claim that you take credit.
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>> how has the retail giant managed to downs back from all this? >> it sounds like a weekend to forget for target. on saturday they were accused of up to two-hour lines at checkout because some of the cashiers weren't working. on sunday, it was reported that their credit card transactions were not going through. target said the two incidences were not related and they said npr was having delays. >> so when the registers are down doshs that mean you get your stuff for free? >> basically yup -- no. it means you leave your cart
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visited mayor buttigieg in south end, indiana, sat down with him at himself campaign headquarters and talked to him about the military national security. one of the things he told me is when he returned from his deployment in afghanistan that he suffered depression for about a year, not ptsd, not something he thought he needed medical treatment for, but he said the difficulty that comes from reintegrating into civilian life. he was mayor both when he left and when he came back. and he said the moral pressure that comes from being even remotely involved in killing. he said on axios and hbo i wasn't a special operator, i wasn't kicking down doors and yet i still felt that even being remotely involved you feel it and you have to take some work to deal with that. >> there's another moment from your interview people are talking about where mayor pete said if he elected, he wouldn't
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be the first gay president. let's take a look at that. >> if you were to win the nomination, they'll say you're too young, too liberal, too gay to be commander in chief. how will you respond? >> people will elect the person who will make the best president and we have had excellent presidents who have been young and we have had excellent presidents who were liberal, i would imagine we've had excellent presidents who were gay, we just doesn't know which ones. >> what do you make of that? >> the follow-up is one word -- who? and i asked the mayor that based on his reading of history who he thinks these presidents, plural, were and he said my gaydar doesn't work that well. but his message there was that
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although he is -- his presidency would be historic, that he is prepared to be commander in chief. he talked very comfortably about all these issues that i threw at him, taking a little tour of the world. >> mayor pete also weighed in on president trump's actions regarding the southern border. what did he tell you? >> he said he would not put it past the president to make the situation at the border worse to increase divisiveness in the country and, therefore, make it for political advantage. i said, come on, you don't mean that he is going to sabotage the border. and what he says is the president doesn't gain from a comprehensive solution to immigratio immigration reform and so he was toughed. he pushed back on the president when i asked him if he would move the u.s. embassy in israel
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back to tel aviv after the president moved it to jerusalem. he said he wouldn't. he didn't think that would accomplish anything in the big picture of getting peace in the region. i said you mean president trump was right? he said i didn't say that. he said the mistake he made was doing that and not getting a concession. >> thanks, mike. >> have a great week. >> that does it for us this morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside geoff bennett. "morning joe" starts right now. >> i have a phony witch hunt. >> the russian military launched a concerted attacks on our political system. there was insufficient evidence to charge a broader conspiracy. >> are you trying to say now that there was collusion, even though he said there is no collusion? >> he didn't say no collusion. >> insufficient evidence to charge. >> i don't think that's what he
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found but we don't have time for at that. >> that is what he found, excuse me. he found no collusion and didn't find anything under obstruction. >> a president cannot be charged with a federal crime. >> they made a ruling based on his findings and ne said no obstruction. >> if we had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so. >> two different stories there. >> good morning and welcome. >> what car were they driving in? >> it's a beetle bug. >> i thought it was very small in the back seat. >> good morning and welcome to "morning joe." it's a lot to carry. it monday, june 17th. >> it should seat two men comfortably if it's the presidential limousine. >> wait a second. i have to go back to that for a
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