and that will do it for me this week. join me back here next saturday, sunday, 4:00 p.m. eastern. reach out to me on social media, twitter, facebook and instagram. for now, turn it over to reverend al sharpton and "politicsnation." good evening, and welcome to "politicsnation." live from los angeles tonight. tonight's lead, retreat. from one invented crisis to another, president trump did this week what now 16 women have accused him of sexual assault, wished he had, and that is he took a hands-off approach. president who prides himself on being an alpha male with a capital "a" had to revert to

statecraft on, of all things, putting the pins back in political grenades, foreign and domestic, on iran, after taunting the world with retaliatory strikes against the islamic republic. he went back to pushing sanctions and willingness to talk without precondition. and his racist late-week promise to round up undocumented migrants from sanctuary cities did last through the weekend. of course, he blamed democrats for why he didn't proceed with it. as for the undocumented child migrants that we learned this week are going without soap and dental care, the president essentially told my colleague, chuck todd, that it was like that when he got there. >> the conditions are terrible. >> i agree. and it's been that way for a long time. >> do something. >> and president obama built the cages. remember when they said that i

build them and it was 1914 -- >> do two wrongs make a right? >> separation. president obama -- i took over separation. i'm the one that put it together. what's happened is the cartels and all of these bad people, they're using the kids. they're -- it's almost like slavery. >> let's not punish the kids more. >> isn't not happening. >> the kids are getting punished more. >> you're right. this hatppened long before i go there. we ended separation. >> the brinkmanship comes as president trump is now officially campaigning for re-election which thus far has meant an all-out assault on his current arch rival, hillary clinton. she, of course, will not be joining the 20 democrats assembling for the first primary debate this week because, well, 2016 is not the same as now, but as democrats prepare for their first united front against the president, my question is, can we expect more of these campaign

stunts masquerading as policy heading into 2020? joining me now, carrie sheffield, national editor of "accuracy and media" and alexander hefner, host of "the open mind" on pbs. let me go, first, to you, carrie. how do you read the president saying here in one stage that we're going in, there was actual launching of military toward iran over the shooting down of a plane or whatever you want to use the term, i think the president referred to it as maybe a plane with chuck todd. and then pulling back saying that when he was told it was 150 people, he feel it wasn't equal, then he also all of a sudden because the democrats, nancy

pelosi, called him, pulled back on sending i.c.e. out to go and get what he said would have been thousands of illegal immigrants. are we seeing him playing a bait and switch game, bluffing, like a schoolyard bluff person? are we seeing him that is sincerely saying i'm going to try this strategy and know this isn't worth it? what are we seeing here? >> i think what you're seeing is a negotiator, you're seeing a negotiator who is setting the terms, they call it in negotiations, there's a zone of possible agreement, a zopa. so he's moving the zopa in the direction in which he believes that our country needs to go. for example, in iran, his predecessor showed incredible weakness. the iranian nuclear deal was a total giveaway to the iranian regime which was murderous and wants to wipe out israel. and so what we have is a president now who is standing up, who is taking back those billions of dollars that have been pumped into the iranian

economy because of the predecessor's deal. and so what we're seeing now is the president standing up to the aggression that we saw, you know, with the iranians. there's no doubt that it was the iranians who are perpetrating this aggression with regards to, you know, the ships. and so it's the same with immigration. you know, in is an unmitigated crisis of the border. and his predecessor, barack obama, you know, as the president said in the clip that you played, he did what he could. he was the one who had started the family separation policies and, again, those images of the children being locked up, those were from the obama administrati administration. so you see a mpresident in good faith trying to urge congress to negotiate a deal here so we can stop the separations. so we can stop -- >> well, but, alexander, in reality, the drone was shot down, the president and -- he, himself, says he has hawks and doves in his inner circle. president went hawkish and then

he backed up and i don't see where that solved any of the iran questions, in fact, he was the one that took the country out of the agreement with iran. and in terms of the separation, i don't recall under any previous administration people separating and taking children out of the arms of their parents. out of their mother's arm. and he defended that all the way until now when he's starting re-election mode. he defended that and said that it was the right thing to do and now he's saying, well, my predecessors. he's been in 2 1/2 years. you can't keep talking about your predecessor. this is now his policy. he's got to own it and deal with it. and we're seeing more people come across the border under him than we did under president obama since he likes to keep going back to his predecessor. >> this was president trump's first appearance on "meet the press" as president of the united states. and he's there for one reason. he knows that fox news viewers

are not sufficient. so it's faith in the electoral strategy to make himself mainstream again. but the rest of the country recognizes that he can't exploit the medium that is mainstream to win re-election because in all honesty, "meet the press" does a disservice to its viewers at this point to host a megaphone for bigotry and for lies. disinformation. he's disinforming his audience on the issue of immigration, r on the issue of iran, and, frankly, it's time for the media to recognize that if he is going to expand anew his demagoguery and try to rope in the major networks and cable outfits to achieve that goal, where they are just complicit in furthering that agenda. so he's on "meet the press" for that reason. he's not on "meet the press" for an honest public policy

deliberation with chuck todd. he wasn't on with stephanopoulos for the 30 hours on abc news for an honest good faith effort to understand the crises in america. let's look at what his mission is. it is re-election and he recognizes he can't only win with fox newsalso can't say that my policy is a continuation of my predecessor and he's distorting that. then what is his policy? if he was elected saying he was going to change things, you can't then say, well, i didn't change things because that's how they were 2 1/2 years ago. he's been there long enough. what is his immigration policy? all of his statements about he was defending the separation of family separation, he was defending children being taken, now all of a sudden, he's helpless and he's saying i was doing what was already there, which is disputed. i mean, this will not wash 2 1/2 years later. this is 2019.

>> well, unfortunately, his hands are tied by congress. we know that congress has failed repeatedly and over and over. >> how is his stands tied in terms of family separation? the congress has not said to him he couldn't stop family separation if he's claiming that was what was happening. tell me how the congress is stopping him from saying i'm not separating children from their parents. >> congress -- >> i'm not putting children in cages. how is the congress stopping him from doing that? >> congress is incentivizing more and more children to be used as -- >> that does not say -- >> -- human shields. >> -- that does that answer my question, carrie. >> if you look at the -- >> how is the congress -- how is the congress stopping him from saying i'm not separating children from their parents at the border and how is the congress stopping him from saying we're not going to have children in cages where they can't get dental care and other health care? how's the congress doing that? >> congress needs to approve funding. that's another issue that has

been over and over. congress failed -- >> that has nothing to do with children being taken from their parents, carrie. please answer my question. >> if you actually go to the border and you speak -- >> i've been to the border. >> -- and speak to border agents -- >> i've been to the border. >> you see that they're running out of funding. they're running out of resources. >> they don't need funding not to take children out of their parents' hands, carrie. >> they need funding to create adequate resources to hold people who are influxing the border because congress has created loopholes that incentivize using children as human shields. if you look at the migratory patterns of immigrants who are coming from this country, in the past, it was -- it tended to be single males and now because of congressional loopholes, it is incentivizing family units -- >> that has nothing to do with my question. alexander, is there anything, since carrie has not been able to give me an example, that you can say that congress has done

that would impede this president from saying we're not going to take children away from their mothers and we're not going to put them in cages where they don't get health and dental care? >> this president -- >> anything you can tell me that this congress has done? >> this president mocked his predecessor's use of executive authority, executive orders. if he wanted to take care of the situation, the inhumanity, the recklessness, of the policies governing immigration at the border and these detention concentration camps depending upon how you would define them, he could take action. he took action on the muslim ban. he said, here's a class of countries, we don't want entering this country, citizens of which we don't want entering this country, i'm going to inent a policy without congress, without due deliberation, rashly updated later, sanctioned by the supreme court. of course, he has the authority to provide the humane and rational approach to this situation, but he refuses to

because the politics, in his mind, are advanced by appealing to those hardcore constituents that don't acknowledge the basic fundamental human rights of these children. that's why he has a deputy a.g. defending, not giving these children beds, soap, not providing livable opportunities during this transition period, let alone in this country. of course, he could do something, but his doj -- >> that's my point. let me -- i want to step in because we got to go on. we'll bring both of you back, but, i mean, if you're going to represent a policy whether i agree or not, stand up and own it. you can't say, i need funding to stop taking kids out of their mother's arms. that is, to me, ducking the issue and, frankly, trying to mislead the public. carrie and alexander, thank you. coming up -- >> thanks, rev. >> -- joe bides son is the cande

to beat heading into the first presidential debates. a recent statement about segregationists has him dogged of late. up next, we'll talk about that with one of his ardent supporters, congressman donald mckechen about biden's comments and strategy to take on the party's contenders onstage this week. s contenders onstage this week incomparable design makes it beautiful. state-of-the-art technology makes it brilliant. the visionary lexus nx. lease the 2019 nx 300

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consequence of the word, boy, but it wasn't said in any of that context at all. >> but you understand -- >> no, no, no, no. >> they would never call me son. >> no, no, but they called bob -- they called teddy kennedy boy. that was a distinction. the reason he called me senator to demean me more -- i mean, son, because he said i'm not qualified to be in the senate, i'm not old enough. to the extent that anybody thought i meant something different, that's not what i intended. >> joe biden addressing the statement he made about working with two segregationists in the senate. the controversy has somewhat dogged the former vice president this week. and has caused many to question their support of him. joining me now is democratic congressman donald mceachin of virginia. he's a member of the congressional black caucus. and has endorsed biden for the democratic nomination. thank you, congressman, for being on.

let me ask you, you endorsed mr. biden. how do you respond to those of us who questioned him on his using the term, they did not call me boy, they called me son, which has a different connotation to many of us who have been called boys, our fathers have been called boys, and on and on. and about his talking about the civil behavior in the senate when people like eastland and other segregationists and how offensive it is to normalize people that were outright fighting for jim crow laws to remain law? how do you respond to that as a supporter of mr. biden? >> well, first, ref reverend, thank you for allowing me to be on your show. what i say to those who have questions about what the vice president said, it was really simple. it was just the mere fact that when those of us in public service are obliged sometimes to have to face and work with folks that we vehemently disagree

with, as far as his use of the word, "son," you heard what he -- had a meeting in south carolina, what i believe he meant, what i'm certain he meant is, look, they didn't look at me as a real full fledged united states senator, either, and yet i still managed to work with them, still managed to get things done. i'm not saying they were great people, but i approached them in a civil manner, and was able to overcome their issues and get some bills passed. >> well, i think that the -- the question that i raise and that many are raising is that first of all, they would call him son in a belittling way, maybe due to age. they would call us boy because they never gave black men the dignity of saying that they were grown men. they were boys. and don't you think that he would serve himself well to say that is not what i meant, and i apologize to anybody that would

have taken that, and there are racial connotations there. all of us in public life have misspoke and sometime unintentionally offended people. but to act like there's something out of bounds for people to be sensitive about something that has been centuries in the making in terms of -- terms like "boy," i think it's something that many of us that know and have worked with joe biden, do not think he's a racist, think that there's some insensitivity here, and you don't want another person like this present president that can't say i may have been wrong, let me correct it, let me you. >> well, reverend, if i heard the interview correctly, at the end of that interview, just at the tail end, he did say that anybody who heard anything different that's not what i intended. and so i think he has stated that and stated that quite clearly. but i think what he was saying was, in fact, i know what he was

saying was that, again, they called me son, they didn't give me the full-fledged respect of being a united states senator. sure, they didn't refer to me as a boy, but they did refer to me as son. they didn't give me the respect i was due and i still put all that aside and try to advance the best interests of the american people. and that's what we are called on to do each and every day in the congress and as you know, thu your civil rights work, you've had to deal with some folks who you found distasteful and still try to advance the cause of those who were in need. >> absolutely. and i still am. but i don't necessarily say that they're more civil or less civil when they're fighting for exclusion of people based on race. let me ask you, as a member of congress, you've endorsed mr. biden. there are 24, i think, another person announced today, maybe 25 candidates, 20 of them will be debating this week on msnbc and

nbc. why do you think biden is the best choice for the democratic party to face donald trump and why is he the best your constituents? >> well, first of all, let me say that i believe all the candidates are good democrats and have good intentions. the reason why i think joe biden stands above the rest is because of experience. not only has he served in the united states senate, but he was shoulder to shoulder with barack obama for eight years advancing policies in the trenches fighting for the american people and fighting for progressive values. he's the one who has the most foreign policy experience because as you've seen from the current occupant of the white house, we need to restore our dignity across the globe. dignity at home. dignity across the globe. i believe that joe bides son is best person situated to do just that. >> now, you have 20 candidates debating, 24, 25, running. is it your hope that they can debate these issues this week,

the 20, 10 each night, wednesday and thursday, white beiithout b divisive and without getting ugly? because is it the fear that when you have ten people per night on the stage that those that are polling low are going to have to do something to get their candidacy to stand out, to get the attention, to make the next day's sound bites on all of the newscasts and they could, in fact, start taking shots at each other? we're starting to see some of that happening already. >> i think if that happens, you'll see that the polling data would suggest that they'll be punished for that. i know that the democratic primary voter wants to see the candidates talk about those kitchen table issues that matter to them. how am i going to educate my children? how am i going to get quality health care? how am i going to have a quality environment to pass on to my children and my children's children? those are the issues that the democratic primary voter wants

discussed and those candidates that talk about those things, those candidates that don't attack each other, but talk about those issues, they'll be the ones rewarded and i am certain that joe biden is going to do just that. >> i was in columbia, south carolina, yesterday, interviewing many of the candidates as they spoke at the south carolina democratic convention including joe biden. but i was really wanting to be in virginia with you at an event you had 400 years -- >> we missed you. >> well, i missed being there. 400 years since the first enslaved were brought to this country. was a big event. tell us the success of the event and it's happening on the same week that congresswoman sheila jackson lee had the hearings to start toward hr40 and a commission on reparations. >> you know, reverend, it was a powerful event. it was well attended. we had great weather. we had a great town hall meeting

afterwards where we marlparticuy missed you because you would have been a wonderful moderator. when you realize the first 20 -- as the records reflect, 20 some odd negroes came to the shores in jamestown in chains. to reflect on the fact that 400 years later, 56 of their children serve in the united states congress, all you can say is god is good. we're making progress. sometimes it's incremental. sometimes it's revolutionary. we're making progress and give thanks for that. >> all right. virginia congressman donald mceachin. i thank you very much for being with us. coming up, i'll speak with new york city mayor bill de blasio about he plans to stand out in wednesday's democratic presidential debate. and later, we'll talk to human rights attorney brian stevenson about his upcoming hbo documentary, "true justice," that examines racial inequality in the united states over time.

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let's be real. in 2016, too many americans weren't sure we were on the side of working people. are you ready for us to be the party of working people again? and when we are the party of working people, we will win. are you ready for a great victory in 2020? >> in three days, most of the democratic presidential contenders will finally engage each other and the nation at the first primary debate of this campaign season. the msnbc exclusive event will span two nights. this wednesday and thursday in miami. each night featuring ten democrats who met criteria set by the democratic national committee to be on the first big national stage of the 2020 race. among them, new york city mayor bill de blasio who's been campaigning heavily in south carolina and will face a surging elizabeth warren on night one.

this week, de blasio and his wife, first lady chirlane mccray, unveiled their push to get more social and emotional support to their city's public school students. they join me now to explain. new york city mayor and 2020 democratic presidential candidate, bill de blasio and the city's first lady, chirlane mccray. thank you, both, for being here. i asked you last night in columbia, south carolina, to come back and bring the first lady with you. and you have done so. before i get into the education plan that you want to use as a national model in what you have announced to do in new york city, you were the first candidate that came out questioning and raising issues on joe biden's statements about segregationists and boy comment. you said it was very personal being that you obviously are

married to an african-american woman and have children. and explain why you were the one to take this on, and are you satisfied with his responses cli? including the one he did with me in columbia last night? >> rev, it couldn't be more personal for chirlane and i, raising our children who we love so deeply, we also know for millions and millions of americans that that comment hurt them the way it hurt us. because joe biden talked about a guy who was a violent segregationist. name's eastland. someone who didn't believe someone like chirlane and i should be married, didn't believe our children should be exist. what he said speaks to a status quo in this country that has still not been broken down. that's why it's so painful. no, i'm not satisfied, rev. i haven't heard anything even approximating an apology because

when you apologize, you really acknowledge that you did something wrong. and the vice president hasn't done that. i don't know why he's been stubborn in this case. he chose to speak about a segregationist and talked about civility. how can you have civility with someone who wanted violence against a huge portion of the american population? how can you talk about civility when you talk about someone who literally wanted to freeze america in place, all that institutional racism, we're still fighting to this day, james eastland is one of the founding fathers of that institutionalist racist system that we're trying to take apart brick by brick. so, no, i think real leadership is when you can say, hey, you know what, i missed something, i did something wrong, i got to own up to it and you're talking about not only millions and millions of americans who are hurting and are feeling it personally the way we are, you talk about the african-american community that is the base of our democratic party. i'll tell you a lot of

african-americans, i've heard it particularly from a lot of younger african-americans, they are sick of being taken advantage of, they are sick of being ignored and the party just assuming their votes will be there. if we want to win in 2020, we cannot make the mistake of 2016 which is being to too many people's eyes the party of the status quo then still expecting that our base will turn out, that young people will turn out, that people of color will turn out, women -- folks are not going to turn out unless they believe we're about change and what joe biden said sure didn't sound like change to me. >> you are on the first night, elizabeth warren who's gaining in the polls, is among the other ten that you will face. how will you distinguish yourself on that stage, mr. mayor, with nine other candidates on wednesday night? first debate of 2020. how do you distinguish yourself without attacking personally the others that are on the stage, or will you be doing that?

>> rev, first of all, think this is a party that very much wants unity. we also have to figure out who we are. the discussion we just had about the vice president is an example of that. we, as a party, have to decide once and for all we're on the side of working people, we're on the side of change, we're on the side of tearing down institutional racism in this country. we need to be the party that's really about equality. and that's a discussion worth having. it doesn't ever have to be personal or nasty, but it is about our identity. right now we're fighting for the heart and soul of the democratic party and, rev, you've watched. these issues are not resolved in our party, they're not resolved in our nation. i hope the debate is a chance to really talk about that. i'm also going to talk about the difference between actions and words. a lot of folks are saying very good things and they have very good ideas, but what chirlane and i have done in new york city is put progressive ideas into action. we actually put money back into the hands of working people. you're going to look at our record and see things like pre-k for all our kids, paid sick

leave for working people so they don't have to choose between a day's pay and going to the doctor when they're sick. you're going to see that we have guaranteed health care for all new yorkers. anyone who doesn't have insurance now is guaranteed that they get a primary care doctor for their family in our public health system so they can actually take care of themselves, not end up in the emergency room as the only doctor a family knows and of course what chirlane has done on mental health, a game changer, breaking down the stigma in the city, making sure folks can get mental health services and the social emotional earning we'll talk about in a moment. these are not just progressive ideas. these are progressive ideas put into action, reaching millions of people. i think democrats are looking for who can really get the job done and i'm going to tell them i can do it because i've done it already for millions of people. i want to do it for all of america. folks are looking for proof, rev, with 20 candidates, they're looking for something that differentiates them. there's nothing more powerful than being able to show you've actually gotten the job done for everyday people. >> all right. you're going to have to go up against nine others on stage,

but you will not be more challenged than to be next to probably the most active first lady i've seen in city hall in new york. tell us about this program of learning, ms. chirlane mccray, that you are initiating with the mayor as you and he work hand in hand on many different initiatives, but this is something special and different that could be a national model, you say. >> oh, absolutely. it's a game changer. you know, we know that our children cannot learn when they are hungry, right, when they go to school and they're hungry, well, they can't learn if they're in emotional distress or if they're in pain, as well. so social, emotional learning and restorative justice, these are tools that help provide a strong foundation for our children, help them with their communications skills, help them solve problems, help them make better decisions. we know that with this

foundation that they're better learners. they have a stronger academic performance and struggle less with stress and drug use. this is a proven -- these are proven programs that will help our children in the classroom and help our educators as well. >> how does the program work? >> well, it's a curriculum. it's a curriculum that helps children identify their emotions, learn what to do when they're experiencing different emotions and i'm going to give you an example. i was talking to one of my young cousins a few months ago, 6 years old, and he was very agitated and i asked him what was going on. he says, i'm angry. i said, why are you angry. >> i'm angry because my sister took away one of my toys. i said, what do you do when you're angry? he says, well, i hit a pillow or i can take some slow, deep breaths, and he started taking some slow, deep breaths, and i

was amazed. this is what we can teach our children to do when they're experiencing emotions that they don't -- that they can't control. this is what we can teach our children to do when they're in emotional distress. we can teach them how to channel their emotions in a constructive way. social/emotional learning is, you know, part of restorative justice as well. when there is conflict, we don't want, you know, kids to be hitting on each other or doing self-harm. we want them to know how to handle their conflicts in a constructive way. so what we're doing is revolutionary. it helps the teachers because, obviously, children can be disruptive in the classroom. if they're in pain or if they're feeling upset because of something going on at home. and we want to make sure that from kindergarten through 12th grade, because we're already doing it for our pre-k students,

so we have the most comprehensive plan of any school in the nation for social/emotional learning. >> let me tell you, rev, this is about reducing suspensions, reducing arrests, finding a way to help kids not get in trouble in the first place. so many people in thisrightfullt to see another generation of young people end up not getting the education they deserve, ending up dropping out, ending up, god forbid, incarcerated. if you want to stop that, let's go to the root cause. what chirlane put together here is actually helping kids to not get in trouble in the first mace, to be able to live out their god-given potential. that's what's so exciting about it. >> all right, i'm going to have to leave it there. thank you so much, chirlane mccray, the first lady of the city of new york, and new york city mayor bill de blasio. we'll be seeing you in miami on wednesday. >> thanks, rev. up next, for decades, attorney bryan stevenson has fought to create more fairness within the criminal justice system.

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and that's the genesis behind this effort that we're now engaged in to build a memorial. >> last year, we here at "politicsnation" celebrated the opening of the nation's first and only museum dedicated to the thousands of black americans lynched during the jim crow era. the emotionally charged project was the brainchild of attorney bryan stevenson whose work on behalf of the often wrongfully incarcerated has made him one of the nation's most respected human rights activists. as an activist, myself, i can tell you that bright lights like stevenson's seldom get the hollywood treatment they deserve, at least not while they're alive. hbo's changing that this week with the premiere of its documentary, "true justice." bryan stevenson's fight for equality examining the triumphs and personal tolls of a life

lived to save others. . joining me now, the subject of "true justice," a good brother i've noboknown for a long time. attorney and activist bryan stevenson. executive director of the equal justice initiative. >> thank you. it's great to be with you, reverend. >> in your work of dealing with those that are wrongfully incarcerated, of those that have been sentenced beyond what is equal to what they have been charged with and in many cases charged and convicted wrongly, this is a major part of this documentary. why is this the particular work you have put your life efforts for and how bad is it so that average viewer watching this understands that this is not being soft on crime, it's being hard for justice. >> yeah, well, i think when we were young kids the threats we had to overcome had to do with

segregation and blatant racial inequality, bear iers to education, all of these threats. those threats still exist today but there's a new threats and that's mass incarceration. we have 300,000 people in jails and prisons in the united states in 1972. today we have 2.3 million people in jails and prisons and nothing has disrupted the lives of poor people and people of color as this investment in punishment that is greatly disproportionate to the problems that have been addressed by it. and i just think we have to change things. we have the highest rate of incarceration in the world. 6 million people on probation and parole. 70 million americans have criminal arrests histories, which means they struggle to get jobs or loans. the bureau justice predicts one with in three male babies is expected to go to jail. that wasn't true in the 20th century and the 19th century.

it has become true in the 21st century. for me it has become urgent and essential to address this wrongful punishment, over policing, wrongful prosecution. people who have drug dependency problems criminals, when we could have said we need our health care system to address and we could have kept hundreds of thousands of families together and you add on top of that it the same problems of bigotry and bias and discrimination that you and i grew up and you end up with a system that doesn't respond to dramatic evidence of racial discrimination and bias. for me, i had no choice coming out of law school but to respond to this problem. because i know opportunities were created by people who cared enough to open undoors i would not have opened up myism is. and i have to do the same. >> there are many lames, i would

say in the humanest highway. you pursued it legally. many of ous with more direct a. what do you think -- what will it take to change this whole move towards mass incarceration and over punishment? is it changing of the laws? is it changing of how we allow prosecutors to behave? what will lead to real substantive change? >> i think we need both of those things, which is why i've been so appreciative of activists in this country. but i think the laws are going to have to change too. we created this problem by passing laws like mandatory laws, mandatory sentencing. we created laws that criminalizeded things that hadn't preec hadn't previously been criminal. and people to life in prison without parole, expanded the death penalty. we've got 13 states in america

with no minimum age for trying a child as an adult. that means i represent 9 and 10-year-old kids facing 50 and 60 years in prison in adult prisons. we need activists and advocates to do work in legislatures. but there are places in this country where you and i both know year going to need court, the rule of law to enforce protections for people who are disfavored. i'm a product of brown verses board of education. i wouldn't have been able to go to high school or college unless lawyers came into our community the courts protected our rights. we have marriage equality because the court recognized our rights. in the courtroom and out on the streets. because you know work outside on the streets create as different temperature inside the court room. >> to change the climate. you're right. thank i don't see for being with us. "true justice ryan steven's flight for equality" this

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streets because of racist and bigoted and ugly text messages that was discovered in pushed by local grass roots organizations including the if philadelphia chaptder of national action net withwork. this year and we're only in the sixzth month, i've already done several funerals. one being in houston, texas, around victims of police shootings of unarmed people. i hope as we go into the debates on wednesday and thursday that we start debating and coming up with ways to deal with police accountability and police transparency. it is not an antipolice move. it is a pro-police move. so good police can stand out and do what is necessary to serve and protect the community. and bad police can be held accountable and punished to the degree necessary. there's no reason that police should have the option of turning off body cameras.

there's no reason that we can keep going through this i made a mistake, i thought i was under attack. the democratic candidates must show they have a real solution to policing. whether it's in south bend, whether it's in new york around the choking death of eric gardner, whether it's philadelphia. it's a national problem. if you want national leadership, then get up and lead. that does it for me. this weekend. but thanks for tuning in. i'll see you back here next saturday, 5:00 pmp eastern rdayn this sunday my sit down with president donald trump. a blunt, frank, and far-reaching interview. >> what happened last night? >> reporter: on why he stopped the planned military strike in iran. >> here we're sitting with with 150 dead people that would have taken place w