. i could talk to these friends all day, i'm out of time. my thanks, to john heilemann, to matt miller, elyse jordan, dawn efrs and most of you to you for kwauching. i'll be back here all night, pre debate 7:00 to 9:00 and post-debate and who knows what else they have for me. but first, mtp daily with chuck todd starts right now. [ music playing ] if it's wednesday, it's "meet the press daily" live from the spin room of the zip opera house in the adrian arch center for the performing arts of miami-dade county ahead of the first primary debate of the 2020 election season. it's right here, only one place,

well, a bunch of places, only one big new york. nbc, msnbc, telemundo. so, guess what, queue the election music. oh, makes me so happy this makes me so happy. this is my hometown. miami was made fun of when i was a kid. guess what, we are the opening act for national politics. i'm pretty proud of that. anyway, in just under four hours from now, my nbc colleagues and i will be posing the debate request es to the first ten candidates that qualify. here they are with elizabeth warren this group's leader, she's center stage. notably not on;ly on stage until tomorrow night is the party's other front runner, joe biden. so without giving away secrets, i'll be joined by a lot of other nbc news people who will be watching what to watch for, since i'm moderateing. the road warriors are with me who have been on the trail with these candidates for months, in

some cases years, plus the campaign surro gather, strategists, activists will be stopping by. a packed hour, kicking off the biggest first night in american politics, of any presidential season that i have been involved in yet. so joining me here at the table, kasie hunt, nbc news capitol hill correspondent and host of kasie d.c.. two reporters. 51 hilliard and okay, casey, what are you watching for tonight and how likely will they mix -- how likely will they want to mix it up? obviously, as moderator, we want some interaction. >> you guys will try your best, i'm sure. >> who will want to? >> i this i the high is for elizabeth warren tonight. she is going to be center stage. some reporters that cover her a long time, she is sometimes at her best when she is the underdog scraping from behind. so this will be an interesting

and different role to play as the front runner, potentially the target for those standing around her. i think to a certain extent that will be decided, whether they will try and make some news by or having that breakout moment by going after somebody else or if they're going to spend time trying to introduce themselves. that's question every campaign and candidates has to answer for themselves, especially on this first night. >> you have been talking to the warren team and the non-warren folks, what itself strategy tonight? >> i think for the non-warren folks it's a question of introduction. for her it's a question if they will attack her. the thing i have been hearing from strategists at other campaigns is a lot of people haven't tuned into this election yet. this is a chance to fet these folks on people's radars and getting higher in the poles. amy klobuchar, for example, came out with the 100 plus bullet points she would do if she were elected president. time ryan has this ability to sometimes rile up a crowd. so there are a few people i'm

watching for up on that stage that could break out. >> who will be the hardest person for me to discipline? i say this, myself or leicester, rachel, whatever, how is it -- who is going to try to make our jobs difficult? >> i think it's the emotion at play. so much of the politics is the emotion. i think if you go to corey book tore what extent at a campaign event, it's like a church revival, about hope, defiant love. elizabeth warren event it's all about the fight, taking on the big corporations. to what extent are these guys going to emote those emotions. one other point, there was a morning consult poll. jay inslee, 50% of his democratic electorate have never heard of jay inslee before. this is a shock. >> this is the balance, introduction, casey and a realization there are a bunch of candidates hoping to knock off and get on the stage next month. for some this may be the one and

only shot they have. >> it's an incredibly difficult calculation to make. on the one hand jay inslee a lot of people haven't heard of him. we know him as a candidate that has risen on his climate change platform. do you take that to the voters or get a moment we are playing over and over again on tv? they all have to make that choice. >> here's the other challenge about tonight. frankly, look, as these weren't our rules to have back-to-back nights. but how long does tonight last? what is the shelf life of tonight's performance when you have another one coming tomorrow night? >> the thing on our air waves starting tomorrow. we should look at the likes of kamela harris has been waiting for this moment since the outset. a lot of the candidates announced back in january. so suddenly if you are kamela harris, you get on that stage here tomorrow night. by friday, you've been able to prosecute that case against these guys. >> so what you are saying is you think it's a huge disadvantage to not be on night one and not

night two? that's the way your costs find that. do some of the campaigns worry about the shelf life of this debate? >> i'm not sure, if are you elizabeth warren and one of the top five pollers on the table. the scenario is to get someone on fight two to respond to what you said, that's how you extend the shelf life. who knows what these viral moments will be. i will say these news cycles are moving fast. things are fleeting. >> i would say this, though, two months ago we would have one night booker, klobuchar, beto and warren. >> a blockbuster. >> no one would say that's the debate. i think his -- we don't know in a year from now which one of these nights will truly feel like the b night or the a night in defense of what's happened. >> here's one thing i will say, cluck. the gop debates in 2016 are instructive. donald trump dominated that stage. he knocked out candidates one at a time.

this is a chance to show you are capable of doing something similar. will you have that chance tonight just as much as tomorrow. >> there is one story that all the candidates have essentially embraced as the big story of today and of this moment and, of course it's what's happening with this migrant crisis and a warning to our viewers. the photo i'm about the to show is very graphic and disturbing. this in some ways is sa galvanizing photo. it shows a migrant and his 23-month-old daughter who both drowned trying to cross the rio grande river in texas. a number of campaigns, visited the largest migrant center in homestead, florida. that's 40 miles away from us. including amy klobuchar and eric swallow visited earlier this week. o'rourke, sanders, gillibrand, bute gig, williamson, all are expected to visit i think by the end of the week. homestead has become, it's here.

this is one of the reasons i keep telling people. message is the perfect place to start this debate. it geographically touches the issue on the forefront here. it emotionally touches this issue. this is one of them. >> it gives the candidates a chance to live their policy in real life. some of them are in the senate, some are in the house. they contend with it in real time with their day jobs. for someone like elizabeth warren she put out a ban a couple days ace go to ban her prisons. and say, this is exactly the kind of thing that i would stop if i were president. >> it makes it tough for those that have been around, vice president joe biden. >> that record you can't run with it with the obama administration, hundreds of thousands of deportations that took place in that administration. suddenly you talk about looking forward in the democratic party addressing where you go from there. if it's joe biden, it'shard not to be the focus of that. >> this photograph has crystallized for so many people,

something we have talked about so many times that run on the front pages of our newspapers, sometimes to the back pages. it really list so close to home. i can't look at it without being moved. first of all, it shows everyone will frankly draw a contrast with the president. those policies. on the flipside of that, this president ran and got elected on making this an emotional issue for people by dividing people and you know this pushes immigration to the front yet again, is that a dangerous. >> i was going to say, that's an interesting political take there. i will pause the conversation. but that is, is this in some ways you almost think that the president would prefer immigration to be a dominant topic, wouldn't he? in his own political. >> it is terrible to think of it in that way, considering photographed. he clearly has tried the conversation over and over again. >> he was showed in the photograph today. he says, yeah, democrats should change the laws, unmoved by this

in that sense. and it's an interesting thought. all right, guys. appreciate it. hey, man, this is like, when you get to to have the super bowl. >> i can't believe we're back here. the election music. up ahead, which candidate will be the one who does break through. booker and klobuchar both want to have it be them. both campaigns will be here next. throughout the show, we will play memorable moments from past democratic primary debates. i will set the time machine back to 1984 when a certain fast food catch phrase was all the phrase. >> when i hear your ideas i am reminded about the ad, where's the beef?

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welcome back. we are live from the spin debate here in miami. two with arguably some of the most to gain, both senators,

corey booker of maine and amy klobuchar of minnesota, both are polling in the single digits. they hope tonight boosts them into the top tier they expect to be in. for a moment i will speak with a surrogate for klobuchar. first i am joined with the national press secretary for corey booker's campaign. thanks for coming to the show. >> thank you, thanks for having me. >> i'm sure, corey booker has been involved in plenty of debates, but probably nothing like this. this debate is over. what do you hope, what do you hope the average viewer gets out of corey booker's performance after this debate is over? >> our goal is straight forward. it is to introduce voters just tuning in tonight w.h.o. corey booker s. i think he will get out there and explain why he is running and really showcase his message for uniting the country and moving us forward. but at the end of the day, we are looking at voters that have not been paying attention.

the first vote will be katz in seven months. we still have a lot of time to go. >> is there an issue you hope voters connect more with booker than with somebody else that voters say, you know what, boy, you want a voter, you want, does this issue mean so much to corey booker you hope the voter sees that, too, what is it? >> it's hard to put 1.1 issue. i think corey released i think a few months ago the most sweeping gun proposal plan that any candidate has put forward. he called for a federal licensing program. he believes that if you need a license to drive a car. you should need a license to own a gun. >> that is something we would love to highlight tonight on the debate stage. >> there is a rap developing. it's a rap any american would love to have. oh, corey booker's two nights. but, of course, in politics. >> yeah. >> is there a line of where that he is not, that he's perceived as not tough enough to take on

the meat, the grinder they're is donald trump? >> well, look at corey's career. he has never shied away from taking on the toughest challenges or a fight. yes, he has a message of love and unity, deend of the day, he knows how to take on a bully like donald trump. corey said time and time again, donald trump is the floor, he's not ceiling. we have so much work to do after we move donald trump out of the white house and he's ready to do it. >> what has been the biggest challenge of so many candidates? to be honest, boy, i think, 24. i understand why and i'm going to speak with somebody in amy klobuchar's campaign, too, both choeb char and booker are tougher candidates, the voters haven't discovered them s. that because there is so many? has that been the struck until. >> as i said before, we are seven months out until the first vote is cast. people are just tuning in. maybe tonight they will tune in, in october, we know we have to catch fire towards the end.

this time last year, 2015, we were talking ab jeb bush and scott walker. i think we have a lot of time ahead of us. voters will tune in and notice who they like. >> is there -- is there something -- do you -- does he wish you were on stage with others with joe biden or how does senator booker feel about his position on this stage? >> i can tell you with certainty that we are so happy with our night. we are excited to go on fight one. i think we are really looking forward to be on stage with the candidates we were on stage with and making sure people hear our message for the first time. >> i assume -- i've heard of the different debate prep i don't think there is enough campaign that has enough staffers physically. >> no. >> but there was pushups involved. give me a little more about the prep here. >> we got pushups, popcorn yesterday. we've got a lot of policy, you know, walking out in the room. you know i think the pushups were the big stand up and bicep

curls going. you got to mix it up with a little fun. >> is that what he was going to do after the break? >> you were stauk talking about standing out, maybe. exactly. >> sabrina with the booker campaign, thank you for coming out, much appreciated. >> thank you. we me the surrogate for amy klobuchar's campaign. well come to the show. >> thank you for having me. >> you heard that last question, i make reference to you, which is, is it the crowded field -- look, i think at some point the voters i believe senators booker and klobuchar are top tier candidates the voters haven't discovered yet. is it because there is too many candidates? what do you guys say to this? >> i think folks are just starting to tune in. tonight is an opportunity for americans all across the country to learn what minnesotans learned about amy klobuchar over her many years of service, which is that she's tough. she's prepared. she works hard and she gets things done. so tonight is her night to

introduce herself to so many people. >> how does she stand out? what do you hope that -- what will make -- what issue, what idea do you think she's going to stand out on that will make viewers when this desfwat over go, i'm going to spend more time getting to know amy klobuchar, i into i'd to google amy klobuchar, follow amy klobuchar onifiesback. >> the more people hear from her, she's hopeful, optimistic. she has number of ideas. her 100-day plan is chalk full of ideas that will make a difference to americans. she has proven herself time and time again. she's passed 100 bills during her time in the senate, 34 frankly under the trump administration. and what that means is that she can work with people to get things done and she's going to show that. >> a lot of senator klobuchar's message early on in her campaign and her announcement speech has been basically, she's the reality check.

loose, i'd love to try to do all these things, let's do this. this is what can be k get done. i'm aspirational, but i'm realistic. what voter is she talking to a general promotion voter with that message? >> i think what we seen with her thiem in office is se can connect with folks of all parties of common sense values, in minnesota, chuck, you spent some time in minnesota, we got the democratic farmer labor party. we bring farmers and laborers together and folks in greater minnesota, the twin cities area. >> the democratic party in minnesota is not called the democratic party? >> that's correct. >> the dfl. democratic farm. i wanted to get that. it's not a separate party. >> we are proud of that. i think what that means is i think senator klobuchar has spent more time on farms than any other person who is going to be up on that stage tonight as well as the county attorney for the largest city in the state of minnesota. so she is going to show that she

can represent americans from all swaths of life. >> let me ask you a question, you are the sitting lt. gov. s. minnesota a swing state? i mean it does seem to be, would you classify it as a swing state. >> i think we were just elected in the last election. we ran on a platform of bringing together folks across lines of difference to get things done. i think that is the track record amy klobuchar has as well. trump has signaled that minnesota is a target state for him. >> should he target? look, it was closer than a lot of people thought it would be. >> it was closer, i want to point out amy klobuchar won 42 counties that trump won. that's critically important as we look at a solid victory to stop the chaos and bring real sound solutions to what we are trying to do here in this country. which is to stop trump. >> peggy flanagan, the attorney general of minnesota, nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you. >> thank you for coming out sharing senator klobuchar's

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welcome back to a special edition of "meet the press daily" live from the spin room here in miami. we set up foreign politics. sometimes it's all about that base. so what are democratic voters going to dive into tonight. teresa kumar is an msnbc contributor and corinne jean-pierre is the chief public affairs officer with move on. a couple, both very knowledgeable about different parts of the democratic voting base. so. >> the american base. >> the american base. right. >> the party of the country. >> i'm curious what the other side is thinking, too, so we can bring the country together. >> boy, let's try to solve one problem at a time. figure out this democratic primary problem. all right. maria. i think it is, there is always

one story that sort of infuses or informs the debate. the picture this morning of this migrant father and his daughter and their, it is, it is, you don't need words, you know exactly the story. it may have done more than any press release or sound byte could have come. it, there is snow way to distinguish yourself as a candidate on this issue that's kind of a shrilly way to look at it. what do you want to hear? what do democratic voters want to hear tonight about how to solve this? >> to be quite frank, patriotism. >> yeah. an interesting way. >> the thing i say patriotism is we crafted asylum laws and the father took the journey from guatemala to our border because we promised him, if he can touch foot on american soil, he can seek asylum. >> he'd have a chance. maybe he doesn't get it. but he'd have a chance. >> but oundz under our laws, he

had a chance to basically stay, that's what that father did. think about the fact that this father basically was born in undue circumstances. none of us know where we're being to be born. >> that's right. >> he said i'm going to america because i do not want my child to be trafficked. i don't want them to be involved in gangs. i'm trying to give her a chance. i have to tell you, the reason this is important, he had to take that journey the president of the united states is going to thwart our asylum laws, judges actually said what he is doing is wrong. >> let me play the president's sound today when he was asked to react to the photo. take a listen, guys. photo take a listen, guys. . >> well, that's like i have been saying, if they fix the laws, you wouldn't have that. but it could stop immediately if the democrats change the law. they have to change the laws. then that father who probably was this wonderful guy with his daughter things like that

wouldn't happen. >> the asylum policy of the democrats is responsible because they will not change the asylum policy. but now for the first time, they're starting to talk about it. >> all right. corinne, look. we can set that aside. this is always this president presented with a moment that the failure of pain, whatever you want to call it. it's not in his dna. >> that we have learned. but we are having, he says the democrats need to change this asylum law. i this i we don't frame this debate essentially. we are essentially having a debate about how do you define america. >> right. >> if you cla thing asylum laws, it's changing our place in the world. maybe that's politically what the country wants to have a debate about. >> what donald trump is dock, she basic ally saying if you are brown or black or coming certainly from the southern border, the country is closed

and are you not welcome. >> that is what he is saying. look, i came into this country with my parents, we were lucky we landed in jfk. and these folks are coming from a situation that is clearly really tough for them and they're taking some of the words, walking a thousand miles to get to the border. he did at this time right way. the father, his daughter and his wife, they did it the right way, they closed the bridge, they said, you can't come in. then they got desperate, like so many others, they got desperate and went that way. look, donald trump has been very clear on his immigration policy. >> that is how he got into the white house. >> that is all about what he did. he went into, he used the economy to put people, give people fear by using others. and it is just infuriating to see. >> maria, whenever, but here's, let's be realistic. when emotion is involved in the immigration debate, it becomes impossible to solve. the president has driven one kind of emotion.

this obviously drives another. >> he keeps saying that the democrats are the ones that run. these are laws that were bipartisan. >> for years. >> on the books. he actually exported them to the rest of the world. the other thing is that when he says he wants to fix it, he has no intention when he zeros out aid to actually address the issues at the root cause of these countries and says, continues to go. when he actually closes tout shop and says, you know what, i don't want the kids to go to their country of or begin p gin to seek asylum. he is trying to fool the american people. ki tell you it's been a year ago today when we marched with over 500 people from across the country and you know what was most interesting and really filled many i heart that it was non-partisan. republicans from the mid-west showed up because they said this is abhorring to us. >> that is what, when i talk about patriotism. we actually know better. we know what we were built on and what he is trying to do. >> i want to move to the debate overall. corinne, move on, you guys did

your straw poll. virtual straw poll. >> not scientific. >> i understand that. what is your explanation for why elizabeth warren has sort of pulled ahead of bernie sanders? >> i want to go back to 2015 for a second. we had a run warren run campaign in 2015. move on did. she was kind of the progressive voice for our members at the time. she didn't run and bernie sanders stepped in that space. bernie sanders ran if 2016. it was a binary choice. it was very clear on what you can get from one candidate versus the other candidate. now you have multiple choices. there are multiple alternatives. that's the beauty of having such a large and diverse primary. >> very quickly, what would be a mistake for these candidates tonight? >> character assassination. >> interesting. >> i see with the american people, they already have a president in the white house that does that very bell. >> don't be a barber. >> don't be a barber. >> whoever it is. >> know your policy. people are looking for

audacious, broad polls. they want to see how do you give us hope and how do you take me to the future? also knowing that, as they're talking for those seven great minutes of fame, they will say can you go toe-to-toe with donald trump and build your own ring? >> the nation doesn't want to see a food fight. they want to see your ideas. >> a terrific discussion. thank you both. we will have more officials, you name it. you look behind me, it's a tour de force of the political community on the democratic side of the aisle. first, back to the 2008 primary debates on this very network. when joe biden knew how to put things succinctly. >> can you reassure your voters in this country you would have the discipline you would need on the world stage, senator? >> yes.

>>. welcome back to a special

edition of "meet the press daily" live from the spin room in downtown miami, the next two nights, not just the candidates but the ideological divide in the party. it's a question of restoration versus revolution. first let me start with the campaign manager of the bernie sander's organization and already here in florida, bernie will be present at tonight's debate even though he won't take the stage, himself, until tomorrow night. welcome. >> hi, chuck. >> i haven't seen you sense you have become a campaign manager. congratulations. >> thank you. appreciate that. >> it seems to me when you as the only candidate that ran last time and ran again. yes, joe biden's ran before. this is, have you the both positive and negative of that last campaign and it feels one of the tough parts is the burden of expectations, which is everybody compares whatever you are doing today with four years ago. oh, look at your polls standing in iowa four years ago.

look where it is today, never mind there were five versus 25. i get all that how much of a burden is that? >> well, i think it sets unfair expectations, if you were any other candidate in the field raising the money, building the volunteer support in iowa having these results coming in putting you in a leading position. >> sure. >> to take on joe bind and win this nomination, i think anybody would kill to be in that position and sometimes get easily dismissed. well, it's bernie sanders, what does that mean about bernie sanders? you build up this giant massive movement for ideas that are interesting. have you changed the debate. sometimes it gets eeszly dismissed in elite circles. we get a little annoyed about it. >> i was going to say what is your goal then? do you believe the public needs to know, hey, look, all of these, they're johnny come latelys? you understand this, you know this they've moved the debate and these ideas can and will

defeat donald trump. >> that so me is the piece that feels like people don't buy as much as they should. he is well positioned and would beat donald trump in wisconsin, pennsylvania, they know him. they know he stands for medicare for all. they know the ideas. and it's those ideas that i think ultimately help become the best foil against donald trump. >> it seems have you two primaries you are dealing with. >> right. >> one is the progressive primary. we saw the candidate from move on. you were the candidate four years ago, right now yelelizabe warren has taken the lead. move on were warren supporters until bernie sanders came in and ran and she didn't four years ago. what does that tell you, that move on, does that mean that elizabeth warren is getting into your kitchen here a little bit? what are you learning? >> there is a lot of candidates in this race. everyone is finding their voters. i this i the ones that ultimately can succeed are the ones that build the large tent.

there are six months to go. i presume a lot of people are kicking the tires, if you tell me everybody is baked. i give it 50% credence they will stay with that person. over the course of six or seven months, people will get in and the thing that we did is mobilize a bunch of new voters to engage in this process. so that's why i hope people are expecting and appreciating the strategy is built on that. >> give ne elevator pitch, why you, not elizabeth warren? why is the bernie sanders' aggressive path better than the yelz yelsz? >> it starts not being against elizabeth. it's for bernie sanders. >> people will compare. at the end of the day you may like both cars but you will compare. >> why not joe biden for instance? >> that's ideal. that's a different contract. >> i believe bernie sanders the an iconic, classic candidate in the field, unique among all.

not just one. he stand out about his flow. taking on and saying we have a rigged system that benefits the 1%. who do you trust, put your credibility in? when they're in the oval office and take on these [ bleep ]. >> there is one more hurdle, a fanatic hurdle is this. there is a lot of people who are thought, boy, donald trump created a lot of disruption and change. i don't want more disruptive. >> yeah. >> you have big ideas disruptive to the system. you said, dam it, you know, what do you tell that voter who says man i love some of bernie's ideas, but i'm exhausted? >> i feel i get the elite conversation around this i argue there is a crisis afflicting working americans, they have seen gains in the top 1%. they're left behind. their paychecks haven't increased. their health insurance is crappy, they are struggling

getting college debt, affordable student loans. they are upset. who will fight me? who understands the pain they are suffering. who will go to the mat for me? to me that anger is sometimes overlooked by elite circles. >> good to see you, sir. >> thank you. >> thank you for coming on in this role. >> i am looking forward to your questions, chuck. >> me, too, let me turn to tonight's big event, senator warren is hoping for a big night, one that will allow her to leap-frog, joining me to represent her campaign is congressman jim mcgovern. he is a surrogate force for senator warren's campaign, thank you for doing this i always elected official touting others. it's never what you are normally asked to do, thank you for doing that. >> i am happy to be here. >> you heard probably some of my conversation within faz, who is running the bernie sanders' xampblt i know elizabeth warren does not want to go after any

other candidate. distinguish elizabeth warren's version of politics to bernie sander's progressive politics? >> you know, i would prefer to talk about elizabeth warren's progressive politics. the voters can compare and contrast. look. i know elizabeth very well. she's a dear friend. i served with her in the congress. you know, she's a great senator. i think she will make a great president of the united states. she has ideas that i think appeal to working class voters. people who feel have been left behind. we have a president in the oval office who works overtime to try to help those who are well off and well connected. elizabeth will level the playing field. she's on the side of working families and those struggling to get in the middle. i think that's why you see her rising in the polls because of stuff she is talking about has an appeal to a lot of voters in this country. >> you know, it's sometimes tough. it's a lot easier to run as an underdog than it is as a front runner. elizabeth warren is in some ways, she has the best.

she got it both ways. she got in, she was treated like a front runner, it was a rough start. she got everybody laid off and the tortoise and hear type of thing. tortoised her way. i got a plan for that. what is your advice to her now na she is basically a fronts runner again? >> to keep at it. elizabeth not only has a plan for almost everything, but the bottom line is she's taking her campaign to places that democrats don't normally go. she's been to trump country. she's been to rallies in west virginia and in mississippi and other states that donald trump won convincingly. she has been getting standing ovations. so what she's doing, i think, is the right formula and i hope she continues to do it. i think she's got a great message. >> how much should she be communicating her plans versus, you know, one of the things here, you talk to voters. they like a bunch of these candidates, what they are looking for, they want to be convinced which one can win?

how much of that argument does she need to make tonight? >> i think she can win. i'm not supporting her out of loyalty and friendship. i think she's the best candidate and she can beat donald trump i expect she will make that message tonight and in the future. but let's not underestimate the importance of plans. i think people have been you know fed a lot of rhetoric from the guy in the white house right now and they have come to understand that rhetoric without plans is nothing. i mean, he's a fraud. and so it's important for her to put some meat behind some of these policy ideas and i think that's what she is doing. that's why she is going up in the polls. >> all right. congressman jim mcgovern, a democrat himself from massachusetts. here on behalf of the warren campaign. thanks for coming on, sharing your views. much appreciate it. >> thank you. up ahead what president trump will be watching for tonight as his potential rivals take the stage. first, here's one from 2015 and bernie sanders, who had had it up to here.

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let's get right into what president trump is going to be watching for tonight and a few final thoughts. a couple of hard scrabble reporters are with me here in miami, bloomberg news national political report alexi mccammond, now an award-winning reporter. >> thank you. >> sahil you love to crawl inside trump word. how is he going to watch tonight. >> i suspect live tweeting it. >> he'll be on air force one when this is happening timingwise. >> and probably find a way to watch it. >> going to have to watch it on msnbc, not on his precious other channel. >> the trump campaign and allies are watching elizabeth warren closely. she's been rising in the polls and has a populist message for the midwest that could counteract president trump's the way he channeled the grievances over globalization and trade. they'll be watching that closely. i don't think they're worried about anybody else on the stage and would like to see her take

fire from someone like john delayny who tells tells me they're going to use her and book her at foils. >> alexei, a traditional campaign would look at tonight and tomorrow if they were the opponent and say is there a way to use the sort of wedges in the primary to create more problems for the people that were we're afraid of running against. we know trump kind you have fears biden. campaign staff seems to fear warren more so. >> that's right. >> none of them fear the traditional candidates you might think they would fear like amy klobuchar or cory booker. >> klobuchar has a habit of winning in trump won counties. when they talked to the trump campaign earlier this week, they expugh the same narrative. there's no centrist lane. tonight and tomorrow will be the clearest example of who is more moderate and who is more of a socialist.

they want to label every single democratic candidate as a socialist. that's not a winning strategy because democratic voter ares are smart enough to know whose policies are in which direction. >> there's a strategy for the county we're in right now. >> that's why he launched his campaign in orlando because he cares so much about florida. he's really hinging his re-election efforts on florida trying to make sure he wins it and focusing on that state and doing everything he can. >> basically promised his presidential library to be in florida at one of his properties. >> they'll define everyone as socialist. the trump campaign and allies will worry about other candidates once they rise. the president talked about warren like someone he had completely dispensed with early on. she's been rising and they're paying more attention. >> tucker carlson has fallen for her proposals and making the campaign i like what she's saying. > that left/right convergence on economics is an important thing.

they fear her more than the joe biden side and try to use a crime bill it depress the black vote. they do fear biden the most because he's the front runner. >> trump cares so much about polls and numbers. he obsesses over his own all the time. that's why they're afraid of biden and warren. >> and the lead over trump in key states. >> you guys have been controlling the spin room. you gave me the delaney nugget. what are you hearing about tonight's debate what's the scuttlebutt. >> beto is feeling very, very anxious. >> what do you mean by that. >> nervous about being on a debate stage with such a massive national audience. he is good at retail politics, standing on coffee tables and doing that sort of thing. to folks on the trail, he seems more human. i've heard he's feeling nervous about getting on stage tonight. it's a little bit of unfamiliar territory for him. >> you were talking about

delaney hopes to do that. what else are you hearing? >> well,ing with someone like beto o'rourke anchorry booker, one way to get attention is throw some punches. but neither are the types of candidates who like to do that. do they have one of those moments that everyone talks about, a viral moment people will be watching on twitter. >> instagram? that helps people in their position get to a better place. >> one of the things we wrote about this morning in first read is the shelf life of this first debate. >> yeah. >> and it is one of those i have no idea. obviously, on one hand, it's likely the second debate is going to be more recent thing that people -- does that mean only one moment from night one makes it through. >> does that mean the dnc needs to think they should do these on back to back nights? >> when i talking to several strategists they talked about shelf life and how instead of going after a viral moment and having a moment where you go

viral, you should focus on telling voters who you are so it has a longer lasting effect on voter's minds rather than it's a flsh in the pan because this person said something funny. also, people who directly take on president trump instead of other democrats because that will show they are exuding a sort of toughness against him that they would show in a general election like joe biden has been doing this whole time. >> sahil, who gets googled the most the way to judge this to who did the best in people convincing people to get off their tukuses and find out who the people are. >> to your previous question, one of the ways you can make this more than a one-day splash is support someone like warrenton lay down markers that the following day people like biden and sanders may feel compelled to respond to. i've heard some chatter about that among democrats.

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