paternal aunt. her mom has supervised visitation rights. >> from my view, he gave his life for her. >> that's all on this edition of "dateline." thanks for watching. good morning. i'm joling kent. here is what is happening right now. president trump's overnight news conference. what he said about north korea, russia and the democratic debates. >> tomorrow, we are going to the dmz. i said i'm there. if you watch the debates, if you call them debates. whatever they were. i think they want open borders. >> we had a great discussion president putin and myself. >> i don't really care about offending people. >> defending his record, senator

kamala harris confronting joe biden at the debate. the former vp's effort to leave the past behind him. plus breaking down the big ideas at the debates. breaking news out of japan, president trump just wrapping up the meetings in osaka with a wide-ranging news conference that lasted 1:20. the next stop is the demilitarized zone between north and south korea where he might make some history. >> if you do meet kim jung-un tomorrow, would you step across the border into north korea? >> sure, i would. i have feel comfortable. i would have no problem. >> the president pressed about his meeting with putin where he appeared to joke about russian medaling. >> we've talked about it before. you know he denies it totally. how many times can you get

somebody to deny something. he has denied it also publicly. but we talked about it. we talked about a lot of other things. >> he talked about escalating tensions between u.s. and iran accusing john kerry of medaling in the process. >> we are working on iran. we'll see what happens. i think they'd like to make a deal. they'd be very smart. we'll see what happens. when we chez and designated certain areas. i said, how many people are going to die. they came back and said about 150 people. i said that's really disproportion gnat. i do think john kerry should not have been talking to them. that's delaying this a lot. >> joining us from seoul, south korea. there were so many headlines, which of them had the most impact, do you think? >> reporter: there was also a lot of attention on this meeting

between president trump and china's president xi jinping. today, it was a truce of sorts. not a deal exactly but president trump suggesting the u.s. would not impose further tariffs. something he threatened to impose starting next week. he said the tariffs would remain in place but talks would resume. he seemed to backtrack on the position of huawei. they are seeing it as the attack of one u.s. company in particular so the chinese would see this lifting of the van as a huge victory all of this sharing the spotlight with that tweet.

that started the day. the suggestion of president trump that he would go to the dmz, shake hands at the border just to say hello. the north koreans have replied that they haven't received an official proposal. the question is, could this actually happen? here is more about what president trump had to say about it. >> it might happen tomorrow. we won't call it a summit. we'll call it a hand shake. i don't know that it will. i think he'd like doing it. he follows my twitter. >> yes. >> i guess so because we got a call quickly. a lot of people follow it. they've contacted us. we are not talking about for for extended. just a quick hello.

>> so the president will go to the dmz tomorrow with moon jae-in. there is a possibility, they'll step across the line and shake hands with kim jung-un. it would be a remarkable and historic photo opportunity. as we know, president trump values his relationship with the north korean dictator. he may be looking to amp it up. >> thank you for that if seoul. joining me now senior reporter with business insider and from politic kol and coauthor of politico playbook. thank you for being here so early this morning. trump insisted relations with north korea are good. >> i think it would be personally offensive for president trump. like what was mentioned, the

importance of this that it be a photo opportunity. it doesn't say anything about the state of negotiations. what was kind of interesting to me is when he posted that tweet, it seemed reminiscent of sending that tweet before the pageant held in moscow, he said maybe i'll get to meet vladimir putin. it goes in line with his fascination of these leaders. >> listen to what he had to say earlier. >> you'd have to take a look at the words, i did say it. we had a great discussion. president putin and myself. i thought it was a tremendous

discussion. as per your question, i did say it and i did discuss it a little bit after that too. >> do you buy this? >> if you watch the videotape of him saying don't medal in our elections, trump seems to take it as a joke because pompeo is cracking up wildly four feet away. he was prompted to do this by an american reporter asking him a question. so this was a half-hearted attempt to tell putin to back off. unclear if he is actually going to do that. he denies medaling. if you don't have president trumpal leadership on this issue, the department of security are going to focus on

this less as a priority to stop foreign interveerns and make sure our election systems are less vulnerable to hacking. >> trump also fired back at former president jimmy carter suggesting that he was illegitimately elected saying he only won because of russian meddling. >> russia, russia, isn't it crazy. jimmy carter, look, he is a nice man. a terrible president. he is a democrat. a typical talking point. everyone now understands, i won not because of russia, not because of anybody but myself. >> why is president trump going after president carter here? >> let's just note that jimmy carter is one of four living

presidents. we already know this is a very soar point. we know anyone who faces this election. he sees that as an effort to undermine his victory. this has been the biggest cloud hanging over his presidency before he took office. we are seeing live pictures right now. we want to get your reaction how many times can you get someone to deny something is this

interapperence going to be taken seriously in 2020? >> you don't have much leadership from the top. the director of homeland security wanted to bring up the topic and was told don't bother, not a good idea to do that. >> it was a shocking story. this is something on many 2020 candidate's minds to protect their own campaigns. it seems like they are practicing better cyber hygiene but. the russians are smart they'll try to interfere. it might not be moscow

attacking. it is any foreign actor that wants to stir the pot. we saw how easily it worked last time. we just don't know right now. daniel, stay with me. we'll be back with you shortly. right now, we are looking at live pictures of the president of the united states landing in seoul, south korea. we have more news from that news conference in osaka. president trump reacting to the democratic debate, in particular the intense debate between joe biden and kamala harris on race. >> i thought she was given too much credit. he didn't do well, certainly. maybe the facts weren't necessarily on his side. i think she was given too much credit for what she did. it wasn't that outstanding.

i think he was hit harder. >> she was discussing the federally mandated bussing. >> i want to be absolutely clear on my record and position of racial justice including bussing. i never, ever opposed involuntary bussing. i did however address the root cause of the seg operation in our schools. trying to change the way in which neighborhoods were segregated. is this trump acknowledging this potential threat? >> that said members of the trump campaign were worried that harris would pull ahead in the democratic field that currently has over 20 people contending

this may well have been to get ahead of that and down played the success in that debate. no question she came out of this night on fire and joe biden was stuttering, stamerring, wasn't able to explain his policy decisions. interesting trump weighed in on that. >> is biden who he hopes to be able to run against? >> if he looks at the debate stage and says to himself he would much rather go against joe biden than kamala harris and maybe pete buttigieg who might be on her ticket. it is a simple position that he thinks he has a better chance of

beating biden that harris who has basically no down sides than her debate performance. ever since she was elected, harris has been talked about as future president. she seemed to have much more energy than two nights ago than in previous campaign swings. i think she really stepped up to the plate. there is no question. >> a lot to discuss there. biden finding himself under some controversy defending his civil rights position. >> you got to recognize that kid wearing a hoody may very well be

the next leader and not just a gang memberer. there are too many black men, and i'll add women in prison. >> this isn't about a hoodie. >> it is about culture. >> is he right? how much does joe biden's comments keep playing into the claim that he is too old school and backwards? >> it seems like even before he launched, he seems to be getting into deep water with his own words. it is often things he himself says and has to backtrack whether his comments towards women, behaviors towards women, now previous comments towards race and his attempt to explain

that. he may have shot himself in the foot here. >> biden is now losing the support of a top campaign fundraiser in the bay area after his recent remarks on segregationists. all of this continues to build around biden and race. do you think this is maybe the beginning of the end for the front runner? focusing on electability is kind of a false thing to look at.

in 2004, everybody thought kerry was electable. you need someone who can reach out across the base. there is less question of is she ready to be president. those kinds of questions dodge pete buttigieg. if he was a vp, that is kind of a better role for him in terms of his experience. >> we are looking at some live pictures now. the president coming down the stairs now for two days of meetings in seoul, in korea. coming off that wide-ranging g20 press conference. he's expected to visit the dmz. he said he would be comfortable setting foot into north korea, which i believe would make him the first u.s. president to do so. that is if kim accepts his tweeted invitation to have a

hand shake. the president has a campaign going on. how much does it matter that he steps foot in north korea. does it speak to his base here? >> that will be true for trump. that is why it doesn't seem this would go a long way towards helping his campaign unless it should secure the commitment when it comes to denuclearization. if all we get out of this is the photo op, the picture of him shaking hands. while it is a monument al moment, it is questionable how substantive it would be. do you think this gets him closer to engaging or is it just

what it is, a potential photo op? >> trump is all about the photo op. you talked earlier that he considers this relationship with the north, his only foreign policy win. i would question how much of a policy win it is just yet. the north keeps building these nuclear weapons. they view it as in the security 2r to have that and prevent any invasion of north korea. either now or in the future. hard to see america invading north korea now because trump is an isolationist. he won't even attack iran, even though his own advisors are telling him to do so. north koreans think long term if they give up their weapons now, who knows what kind of president

they might get and how the security situation in asia might change. as their people starve, kim jung-un seems obsessed with keeping this situation going to make the pretense, we are making progress. >> the official state news agency of north korea is saying they saw the tweet. acknowledging saying it was a very interesting suggestion to kim but they have not received an official proposal but saying that tweet is an official proposal to meet and have that handshake on the dmz. i wonder what other policy issues would affect north korea. looking at china, northeast asia, you've got another issue there as well. is that the second thing on his docket on this trip?

>> the other thing that has gone under the radar is his suggestion that he wants to pull out of the defense treaty with with japan, which would be a stunning foreign policy development. the president's own advisors, not to mention the vast majority of the u.s. security apparatus says it would be a disaster to pull out of this. the president has said that, you know, under this treaty, if we get attacked, they don't defend us. and that's not fair. that would certainly be something to keep an eye on. >> you bring up a great point about security in nor'easter asia and the nuclear weapons. thank you for joining us as well. we appreciate your time. >> high courtroomings behind the decision on the census and the plan to decide the future of daca, next. , next is boost®

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new this morning, the president defending his efforts to add a citizenship question in the 2020 census. >> during the week, you tweeted your displeasure on the supreme court's decision on the census. are you going to try to delay the census. >> you are not allowed to ask

whether or not somebody is a citizen of the united states? how horrible and ridiculous is that? it wasn't a real decision. >> saying your guys are playing politics. >> hey, who is really playing politics. check it out. >> joining me now, msnbc correspondent. is it really the end of the story? >> this is really an interesting issue. in some form, there has been a citizen-type question for many years. the reality shows that the citizenship question might frustrate the ultimate purn. the guiding principal is does it give us an accurate count.

if it frustrates that purpose, then the question becomes something that doesn't have to be included in the census. >> the president saying he wants to delay the census. is this something he can do? >> i'm not sure he can lawfully delay. the law requires the census be taken and taken every ten years. if the president does delay it, i expect it will be challenged. it might find its way quickly up to the supreme court. >> efforts to shut down daca. do we know where others stand from past immigration arguments. how likely is it that daca ends before the election in 2020? >> lower courts have held against the government every step of the way. that doesn't mean necessarily when it gets to the supreme

court, the court will go the same way. especially with newly installed justices. these are justices that might be inclined to side with the government. some of the recent cases have shown that they are not as predictable as everybody thought they were going to be. there is a shot for the government to win at the supreme court on this daca issue. >> this other issue is the supreme court ruling. that cannot be heard in federal court. the justice had a fiery decent saying, quote, of all the times to abandon the court's duty to declare the law, this was not the one, the practices challenged in these cases imperil our system of government. at some point we the people become sovereign no longer. doesn't this violate voter's

rights to a certain degree. >> let me take a devil's advocate decision. in this case, the supreme court can only hear a case. it cannot opine on things that they think is unfair. there are a whole category of cases. the supreme court simply cannot invade that area. partisan gerrymandering is one of those areas. the supreme court will intervene if it is violations. political gerrymandering is not only constitutionally preserved, it is constitutional and been around since the founders. whether or not it is ultimately fair, it is a decision the supreme court cannot ultimately hear. >> thank you for breaking it down for us.

morning headlines, a u.s. federal judge blocking president trump from using billions of military funds to build a border wall. declaring a national emergency to diverse billions in defense department funds. the ruling halts construction in new mexico, california, arizona and texas. the man that allegedly organized the botched murder plot that hit ortiz. the hitman confused ortiz with the intended target. he is being treated at a boston hospital and is expected to make a full recovery. >> goal, u.s. >> after a hard-fought win

against france, team usa is heading to the semifinals. they win against the tournament hosts, france. >> now more breaking news from president trump. hours ago, he made the first remarks about inviting kim jung-un via twitter to meet tomorrow to the demilitarized zone. >> if you do meet kim jung-un at the dmz tomorrow, would you step across the border into north korea? >> sure, i would. i would feel very comfortable doing that. i would have no problem. >> joining me now, msnbc military analyst. good morning. that remark by the president saying he'd be okay with

stepping into north korean territory. how do you interpret that? is it an issue he says that so comfortably? >> he says everything so comfortably. the president of the united states is very much into symbolism and he likes photo opportunities. . he himself said this would be a photo opportunity. there is no substance here. him stepping across to north korea is not going to change the arc of discussions with north korea over economic sanctions or anything else. at the end of the day, it is just a photo opportunity. by the way, so does kim and so does putin and every other autocratic leader. no substance sheer at all. >> if the photo happens which looks rather unlikely, does it get the u.s. any closer to a solution with north korea?

>> oh, no. i don't think so. we have to start with the premise that north korea is not going to give up its weapons under any circumstances. it is kim's, it is the regime's life insurance policy. they are not giving them up no matter what happens. i thinks that probably the place where we need to start. the result of that is going to be that there probably is not going to be very much progress, if at all. >> he also made news at russia and basically waged his finger and basically joking said, don't meddle in the u.s. election. how did you interpret that as to where he stands now after rejecting what the intelligence community has made clear to him? >> that is pretty outrageous. no doubt about the fact that russia adulterated our electoral

process. they'll do it again in 2020. by the way have managed through their efforts to encourage others including china and iran to do the same. i think doing it fas ishsly or outrageously is not going to change anybody's mind. >> it doesn't matter what he does. his political base will support him no matter what. >> we showed earlier, the president remarking that former second of state kerry meddled with iran telling the country if they wanted a new president, that could be better for them after the 2020 religioelection.

>> the problem with most politicians is they can't shut up. seriously. they always have to find an opportunity to make a comment on everything. sometimes, often, it is much better to keep quiet. encouraging others to do anything with our electoral process is really outrageous. i'm hoping that nobody else in the campaign or not in the campaign says anything like that again. >> thank you. we appreciate it. 50 years ago yesterday, stonewall. reporting on a celebration of that pivotal moment. >> reporter: on the street that 50 years ago was the scene of a riot.

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>> what do you think about that? >> saying he and his husband have six figure student loan debt. the reality for america is that we are facing a student loan debt crisis. while he is in favor, he wants to make sure there isn't a plan that actually subsidizes college for billionaires because they clearly can afford college. >> and medicare for all, is it true that it would actually lead to no premiums, deductibles and co-pays. there is a catch here? >> yes. sanders conceded he would have to raise taxes on the middle class. this has been his plan since 2016 elections. you've got other democrats

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to 60 seconds on a campaign debate stage can't do justice to a lifetime committed to civil rights. i want to be absolutely clear about my record of position on racial justice including bussing. i never, never, never, opposed voluntary bussing. i fought my heart out to ensure equal rights, voting rights, civil rights are upheld everywhere. >> in the aftermath of the camera harris debate night attack. joining us now, our guests, guys

good morning. antoine, i'll start with you. what do you make of these criticisms. is there going to belong-term hurt here? >> i don't think so. i think joe biden came into this debate as the front-runner so there was different level expectations and different level of performance for him versus senator harris. with that being said, i get -- we can't downplay what the senator was feeling about this issue. my leader, jim clyburn says in his memoirs our lives are the sum total of our experiences and she made the scenario about her personal experiences. democrats want to get in the back and forth of these issues. we know that donald trump is a racist. we know he's a bigot and these racial arguments do not help us in a general election because we

know who donald trump is. that is the big thing we should focus on. we have to get back to bread and butter issues, the things that voters want to hear about. the nomination process will allow us to have the marketplace to have these things discussed. >> adriana, how is this drama playing out with republicans you're talking to? >> well, i think what republicans see is that democrats, we're the party, including joe biden and bernie sanders, were the part of a generation that incarcerated black men unfairly. that's something that kamala harris should have hit joe biden with that night. she should bring up bussing and other issues, saying biden can work with segregationists, which is appalling. i'm waiting for these democrats to challenge joe biden and bernie sanders. they voted for this crime bill

where in contrast president trump has achieved prison reform and releasing men from prison who don't belong there. he has done a lot for the black community. you call the president a racist. i see a president that's created more jobs and more economic opportunity for african-americans than any president in the past 50 years. >> adriana, '94 crime bill, pieces of legislation have unintended consequences but you have to look at what the '94 crime bill has done, it's done something that donald trump will not address, deal with assault weapon bans. so many things in the '94 crime bill we could talk about. i want to address donald trump being a racist and bigot. absolutely. thanks to president obama's leadership, trump has benefited. you and i can both point to examples where racism and bigotry flows from his mouth and his twitter feed every single day.

you will not be able to dispute that in good conscience. >> we have more comments from joe biden from that same speech that started another round of critici criticism. listen to that. >> we have to recognize that kid wearing the hoodie may very well be the nt next poet laureate and not a gang banger. >> cory booker saying this isn't about a hoodie. we need have-to-have a discussion in a far more constructive way. is he right? >> at this point, it's game on. this is a contact sport and his opponents, although we're not running against each other. we're running for our party's nomination, are going to find every little thing to trip him up. to whom much is given, much is expected. he is the front-runner. we can have these discussions about words and how they cut and impact people differently.

voters are look for democrats to really put forth a policy agenda that will be laser focused on bread and butter issues, quality issues we heard discussed in two nights on the debate stage that would really move our country forward. we can't ignore some things are very emotional to some and cut through the hearts and minds of certain groups of people. donald trump will serve four more years if not and we'll be sentenced to two more years, at least, minimum, in the minority in the congress. >> adriana in his press conference in osaka, president trump simply thought senator harris was given too much credit for what she took on with joe biden on that debate stage thursday night. why is he defending biden? what do you see as the strategy he's taking here? >> i think president trump would like to run against biden. biden is weak in so many areas. he has a long track record of

failing the american people. he has been in the senate. >> what? >> in congress for decades and what has he achieved? if you contrast that with president trump in the past two years, we have historically low unemployment for all americans, including african-americans, although antoine doesn't want to acknowledge that, that is a fact. he has passed prison reform, which is helping the african-american community. we have strong gdp. wages are up. he destroyed the isis caliphate. his list is long and strong in just two years. what happens vice president biden achieved? president obama won't even endorse his vice president that speaks for itself. >> adriana, you're going to make me jump out of my chair. first of all, president trump has had zero legislative success. number two if you call it signing a number of executive orders, go right ahead. democrats will be well on our

way to retaking white house. if you want to talk about what joe biden has done, my dear friend google will help you out. he has a lifetime record of a real policy agenda that he has put forth that has formed discussion. not to mention he helped usher through one of the most transformational pieces of legislation in my lifetime in the affordable care act. you can make your strong man arguments all you want about donald trump jersz joe biden. donald trump does not want to take on joe biden in the general election. >> you guys, antoine, adriana, it's always a spirited debate. thank you so much. >> thank you. a handshake and step forward? president trump wants to meet kim jong-un at the dmz and maybe even step inside north korea. what signals would that set to the world. orth korea what signals would that set to the world. t savings and i should have changed a long time ago. we're the tenney's and we're usaa members for life. call usaa to start saving on insurance today.

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good morning. i'm jo ling kent. it's 7:00 in the east, 4:00 out west. here's what's happening right now. president trump speaking overseas a short time ago. what he said about north korea, russia, and a topic that became the focus of the latest presidential debate. >> we had a great discussion. president putin and myself. really care about offending people literally visiting the dmz. we're not being taken for suckers anymore. >> also, what he said after

former president carter suggested he is an illegitimate president. plus, joe biden on the defense with senator kamala harris. we begin with breaking news this morning. president trump has officially arrived in seoul, south korea. he is expected to visit the demilitarized zone between north and south korea. he ended his trip to the g20 summit in osaka, japan, with a wide-ranging 90-minute news kmps and left the door open to taking a big step. >> if you do meet kim jong-un at the dmz tomorrow, would you step across the border into north korea? >> sure, i would. i feel very comfortable doing that. i would have no problem. >> the president was asked about his meeting with russian president vladimir putin when he appeared to joke about russian meddling in u.s. elections. >> we talked about it. we talked about it before.

he denies it totally. how many times can you get somebody to deny something? but he has, in the past, denied it. he has denyed it also publicly. but we talked about it. we talked about a lot of other things. >> he also addressed escalating tensions between the u.s. and iran, accusing john kerry of meddling in the process. >> we are working on iran. i think they want to make a deal. they would be very smart to make a deal. when we choose designate certain areas, i said how many people are going to die? they came back a short time later and said about 150 people. i said that's disproportionate. i think john kerry should not have been talking to them i think that's delaying this process a lot. >> janice mackie frayer joins us. the president on the ground there. what kind of headlines did he make on china trade?

>> reporter: well, this was a very important meeting for president trump with china's president xi jinping, given the escalating trade war and the trade talks that have deteriorated over the past several weeks. there appears to be a truce. nothing close to a deal yet but president trump announcing the u.s. will not impose war sanctions or more tariffs on more chinese goods, something he had threatened to do next week and that trade talks are effectively back on. the tariffs that are already in effect will remain in place. it appears that talks will resume. there is progress on that. also, the president appearing to backtrack on the ban on the sale of american equipment to huawei. this was a huge issue for the chinese side going into this meeting with president trump, china seeing the u.s. government unfairly attacking one company in particular, not out of national security fears but fears out of competition. getting a lift of this ban would represent a huge victory for the

chinese side. that's how it's being played right now in chinese press and president trump saying he believes that things with china are right back on track. all of this, of course, sharing the spotlight with that tweet that started the day. the assertion that president trump would go to the dmz, meet kim jong-un, shake his hand and say hello. he put it out there as a feeler. the question is, could this really happen? here is more of what president trump had to say. >> might happen tomorrow, to be honest. we won't call it a summit. we'll call it a handshake if it does that. i don't know if it will. he would like to do it. i don't mind doing it at all. he follows my twitter. and us. >> he follows you on twitter? >> i guess so because we got a call very quickly. a lot of people follow it. they've contacted us. they would like to see if we could do something.

i'm not talking about an extended -- just a quick hello. >> this is all coming amid talk of a possible third summit between the u.s. and north korea. the last one ended in a disaster, with president trump walking out and no deal whatsoever. he will visit the dmz with south korean president moon jae-in. the big question, will they step across the line and meet kim jong-un? it would do very little, if nothing, for advancing talks toward denuclearization. those are still very stuck. it would represent a remarkable and very historic photo opportunity. as we know, president trump deeply values this relationship that he has with the north korean dictator because engagement with north korea is his only foreign policy win. he may be looking for an opportunity to amp that up. jo ling? >> janice, thank you very much.

joining me now, national politics reporter and sarah faris. emily, i want to start with you. good morning. there was a long list of foreign polishes that the president took on, to trade with china, iran, and on down the list. what was the number one takeaway in terms of foreign policy? >> the take away with past encounters with totalitarian leaders is that he feels very comfortable around strong men, showing much more warmth to them than he has shown the democratic presidential candidates i've been covering. he's ready to meet again with kim jong-un, very proud of the progress he has made in those talks and wants that photo-op of being in the dmz and potentially meeting kim jong-un. all the logistics and all the security procedures that would entail, that would be needed to make something like that happen.

>> we're looking at live pictures in seoul, south korea, of the president arriving there in his motorcade. what i want to know from you is what about the issue and the conversation he had on the side with the crown prince of saudi arabia and the jamal khashoggi issue and what's happened since his murder, what was your take away from that? >> what we've seen is the president is demonstrating a classic shock and awe diplomacy. this is what he does. the fact that he praises crown prince mohammed bin salman, ignoring what his own intelligence officers have said, that the prince was behind the killings, ordered the killings of this washington post journalist jamal khashoggi. the president has never acknowledged that this is something that his own cia has said was ordered by the crown prince. this is something that he is sure to enrage party leaders, from both democrats and

republicans. everyone seems to be on board with what the cia has found except the president. for president trump to be praising saudi leaders for a range of political influence in their own country and ignoring these gross human rights abuses, including the murder of the journalist here is stunning. >> we are watching live pictures come being in. moon jae-in greeting president trump there in seoul. we have this big election coming up, 2020. with regard to the meddling, the president defended his exchange which yhe likely told him not t meddle in the 2020 elections. basically a joke about this issue on camera. why do you think the president wasn't more forceful about it? why is he defending a clearly lighthearted remark? >> he thinks very much about

what putin thinks of him and what he says. the president said his last name but said it over again, in many other different ways. how many times can putin deny interference in the u.s. elections? he starts to believe vladimir putin over his own national intelligence and made no steps to prevent further interference with u.s. elections and takes the subject very lightly. >> sarah, i want to talk about the biggest economic issue so far, trump saying he and xi agreed to resume trade talks. listen to this. >> we will be continuing to negotiate and i promise that for at least the time being we're not going to be lifting tariffs on china. we won't be adding an additional, you know, tremendous amount of -- i guess we have 350

billion left, wekd be taxed, tariffed. we're not going to do that. we're going to work with china where we left off to see if we can make a deal. >> okay. so, the markets clearly liking this news. sarah, is this actually going to move the ball here? can you really restart such contentious trade talks? >> well, he's going to try. he knows he's really on the ledge here. he is hearing from fortune 500 companies on a daily basis that they cannot tolerate -- they would not be able to tolerate these massive tariffs on consumer goods. it will affect the entire country. taking this step that he's long threatened, he will be contin continuing to try to make headlines to try to give the appearance that he's refusing to do this, taking a stand, making a deal. for him it's all about displaying his dealmaking

abilities. we don't have specifics of this deal he has been talking about. what we do know is the president is trying to find a way to not take the step that he has threatened to do, which is impose these massive tariffs on consumer goods that would hit everyone in the china. of course, it would be u.s. consumers paying for these goods. many would be looking at that if and when they decide to vote for him again in 2020. >> thank you both so much. more breaking news from that press conference in osaka, president trump giving his reaction to the democratic debate, in particular that very tense exchange between joe biden and kamala harris on race. >> i thought that she was given too much credit. he didn't do well, certainly. and maybe the facts weren't necessarily on his side. i think she was given too much credit for what she did.

it wasn't that outstanding. i think probably he was hit harder than he should have been hit. >> emily and sarah back with us now. i want to start with your reaction to what the president said about biden. do you think he's defending biden because he's hoping he'll run against biden? >> he indicated that he would want biden as an opponent. kamala harris showed on stage thursday night she would do well in a head-to-head with trump, general election debate, showed off her chops in that manner. the president has weighed in only on one topic of the debates when the ten candidates raised their hands in answer to the question whether they would provide health care for immigrants in the country el legally. he and the republican party seized on something that are eager to put in a campaign ad, i think he said. something he really, really grabbed on to.

>> we're watching live pictures president trump, daughter ivanka, son-in-law jared kushner. they've just arrived, touched down in seoul, south korea. they'll have a two-day visit to the country where he will be visiting the dmz, demilitarized zone. he has offered to do a handshake with kim jong-un, leader of north crowa. that's not been accepted, but the north koreans have certainly heard about it and they say it's a very interesting proposal. you can see there, president trump talking with members of the south korean delegate that's greated him and his family, coming off a very intense news conference in osaka, rounding out the g20. vice president biden, all these politics brewing at home with trump in south korea. biden is defending that civil rights record we were talking about earlier. what are democrats on the hill saying about his handling of that moment with kamala harris?

>> well, democrats on the hill have long backed vice president biden. of course, he has one of the highest name recognitions. many worked with him when he was in the senate or in the white house with president obama. so democrats have been defending vice president biden in the past. what remains to be seen is whether some of the lawmakers who have issued endorsements for the former vice president are willing to look at other candidates of the over both nights of the debate we saw not only how far we have to go but there are so many breakout democratic stars that are just beginning to gain traction here. so i think we have a lot of lawmakers who haven't made up their mind about endorsements, so we can see this coming forward in the next several weeks, there could be more surprises on the hill for democrats. >> all right. emily, sarah, thank you both so much for joining me this morning as we continue to watch president trump in seoul, south

decree came korea. i would like to bring in michael mcphaul. good morning. what would be the significance of president trump crossing into north korea? >> well, he would be the first president ever to do it. i think he likes the optics of that. he likes to be the first to do things. it would be just optical, right? it would not be about policy. that underscores the fundamental flaws so far with his strategy toward north korea. we've had photo-ops, unprecedented summits where they met. this would be unprecedented again. would it lead us to being closer to denuclearization? i'm skeptical. >> what does it mean if he does step into north korean territory? what's the messaging?

>> the message is that he has a close personal relationship with chairman kim jong-un. if he develops this relationship with the north korean dictator, he will be able to achieve complete denuclearization in north korea. and i would say, if it works, i'll applaud him. but so far there's very little evidence that it's working. and instead you get a lot of theatrics. my guess is we will be covering that moment every second of the way on tv. what has been achieved in terms of national security interest. and i hope there will be something but i'm skeptical that it will lead to something very concrete. >> how does it affect the relationship with china? china has been such an important player in those former six-party talks and now in this back and forth between trump and kim.

>> i'm sitting here in beijing, china, right now, where i'm talking to you from. not my usual place at stanford. the news around here, the mood around here is great. no more tariffs. that's good news. i think a lot of people here are shocked by how president trump said that american companies are now going to be able to continue to sell their parts to huawei, seen as a tremendous achievement in terms of president xi's diplomacy. we'll have to wait and see when washington wakes up how that news will be perceived in the united states. the fact that talks are ongoing is also seen as good news. with actual events with respect to north korea that may be happening today or tomorrow. >> i want to talk to you about russia, of course.

this finger waging moment with vladimir putin yesterday. >> mr. president, will you tell prussia not to meddle in next year's election? >> don't meddle. >> ambassador mcfaul, how do you interpret his actions there? what does it say? >> you know, disappointing but not surprising. the president -- president trump does not take seriously what the russians did to us in 2016 and just to remind everybody what is in the mueller report documented comprehensively hundreds of pages, thousands of footnotes. they violated our sovereignty. they influenced the course of the election outcome, whether they determined the outcome is a different matter. everybody agrees they tried to do that. our president doesn't take it seriously. i was deeply disappointed that

he would joke about it with president put u.n. that means he is going to do nothing to prepare the elections to be more secure in 2020. >> we are watching live pictures with the president and his family being greeted by south korean leader moon jae-in. we're going to listen in. >> thank you. we have, yes. >> there, the reporters on the ground traveling with him, entering the blue house now in south korea. i want to talk more about north korea, ambassador mcfaul. trump was saying if it wasn't for him, united states would be in an armed conflict with north korea. what's your reaction to that? >> well, that's not true. president trump was the one that created the crisis in this dire mome moment.

there are other ways we could have contained north korea without going to war. this is a pattern you see time and time again with president trump. he creates the crisis and then defuses the crisis and declares victory. that's exactly what he did with president xi in his meeting, right? he was the one who raised the tariffs, threatened to do more tariffs and today apparently in their meeting, as the president read it out at the press conference, he has now postponed those new tariffs. so i want to be clear. i support president trump did talking to kim jong-un as a strategy to try to achieve an object east of. there's nothing wrong with talking. it is not an achievement just to talk. just meeting with kim jong-un, just the fact of stepping over the line, putting his toe in north korea, he sees it as an achievement. i don't see it that way.

the goal for the united states of america and our allies is denuclearization. complete tee nuclearization. means to achieve it may be interacting with kim jong-un. so far there's been very, very little progress towards achieving that outcome, that national security objective for the united states. >> you're a former diplomat. earlier you were talking about the president remarking at that news conference that former secretary meddled with iran, creating a better environment for them. what do you think about that kind of discussion? >> i think it's highly ironic that president trump is talking about john kerry talking with

foreign leaders, as we know that his son was talking with the russians during the 2016 election, very bluntly saying if you have compromising material on secretary clinton, we want it. this is a nonissue. i wish he would focus on, you know, trying to defuse our tensions with iran and not be so concerned what a former diplomat might be saying on the margins of some international conference. i think it's the wrong focus for the president right now. >> ambassador michael mcfaul, thank you for joining us. slip sliding away, what vp joe biden needs to do to stop that sliding after a brutal debate. liding after a brutal debate ok everyone!

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we are back with breaking news. president trump has now landed in seoul, south korea, and he is meeting with moon jae-in. kristen welker joins us from osaka, japan, just a few hours ago. you were there. you asked the president a question. what is the most important foreign policy takeaway? >> i think the biggest takeaway, jo, is the fact that president

trump has really engaged in this high stakes foreign policy risk, if you will, by inviting kim jong-un to meet him at the dmz. so far, no official word on whether kim jong-un is going to meet him. president trump was pressed on th this, asked if he was prepared for kim jong-un not to show up. yes, he is, in fact, prepared for that. he was asked if he put a lot of thought in this. he recently came up with this idea today. president trump said it is worth it to keep talking to kim jong-un. if the two do meet it would only be a handshake, that this would be the third time that they come face-to-face but the first time that the north korean leader and a u.s. president has a meeting at the dmz. president trump announcing effectively a truce in his trade

war with china, that he won't impose a new round of tariffs on china. he will hold off as talks continue. that's certainly going to calm global markets, quite concerned by the prospects of these two sides being so far apart. the president, of course, always has his eye on politics back at home, his re-election campaign. he was asked about the democratic debate, particularly that heated interaction between former vice president joe biden and senator kamala harris in which she took issue with his record on race and bussing. she said he opposed it. joe biden saying that wasn't quite the case and kamala harris saying she was the product being bussed to school, a program to integrate schools. i pressed president trump on whether or not he supports that policy. take a listen to what he has to say. >> it has been something they've done for a long period of time. there's not that many ways your

going to get people to schools. in some cases it's been done with a hammer instead of a velvet glove. that's part it of it. this has been a thing that's been used over the -- if vice president biden had answered the question somewhat divenly, it would have been a different result. they really did hit him hard on that one. but it is certainly a primary method of getting people to school schools. >> president trump saying that senator harris was getting too much credit with the back and forth with joe biden where she did go after him directly. bottom line, jo, if you talk with folks inside the president's inner circle, they don't know exactly how to go after senator harris. he knows exactly how he would attack joe biden, elizabeth warren. kamala harris a bit of a

question mark when it comes to a strategy in taking her on. president trump clearly keeping his eye on domestic topics even on this trip to south korea. jo? >> thank you, my friend. race for 2020, vice president joe biden is still walking off an attack of senator kamala harris slammed biden on his stance on bussing to integrate schools. friday, biden is trying to cool down those headlines about past policies and race relations only to land himself in more hot water. let's go to nbc's garrett haake in my old stomping grounds of manchester, new hampshire. thank you so much for joining us this morning. biden campaign is now on the defense. what do they do for damage control? >> reporter: hey, jo. bernie sanders is joining us in new hampshire later today, the

rest of those 2020 candidates fanning out across the country. the ripple effects from that miami dough bait are continuing, especially for the front-runner, joe biden. >> do you agree today that you were wrong to oppose bussing in america then? >> no. >> do you agree? >> i did not oppose bussing in america. >> reporter: this showdown at center stage in miami between kamala harris and former vice president joe biden now putting race at the center of the 2020 primary. their discussion picking up right where it left off. >> do you think he's racially insensitive in a way that makes him a poor fit to be president of the united states? >> i wouldn't say that. i just think he and i have a difference of opinion. >> i never, ever opposed voluntary bussing. and as a program that senator harris participated in, and it made a difference in her life. >> reporter: on stage at an event in chicago, biden

forcefully defending his civil rights record. >> segregation in our schools and communities, taking on the banks and trying to change the with a in which neighborhoods were segregated. >> mayor pete buttigieg and other candidates visited the homestead, florida, detention facility for migrant children. >> you and i paid for this place. what is being done in that building is being done in our name and with our money. it is wrong. >> to deny the stranger and the out cast is to deny america. >> reporter: while texans, beto o'rourke and julian castro held riv rivalry. >> and while bernie sanders continued to sell his medicare

for all in ohio. the policy idea that dominated the first half of thursday night's debate. jo, of course, it's still june of the odd year. lots of time left in this race. at bad times you have a bad night for joe biden. 18 million people watched that debate thursday night, just on television. more than that will have streamed it online. that's the biggest audience for a primary debate ever. >> kamala harris presidential campaign j.a. moore, also a state representative, joins me. thank you so much for joining me this morning. >> thanks for having me, jo. >> you held a watch party in south carolina. how was that very pivotal moment playing out in your state? >> i'll tell you what.

it was really incredible. we had the watch party at the barber shop. we literally went where people were. it was incredible. we had folks that kind of came into the watch party still undecided on who they were going to support in this primary. and the general consensus after the watch party is that senator harris is the only candidate that proved on either night she can beat donald trump. >> joe biden has a lead over kamala harris. >> former vice president has had an over 40-year career in public life. senator harris came on the scene

nationally four years ago. as we get to know her, as they hear her story, hear firsthand her agenda that deals with, number one, in south carolina. first we had 10,000 teachers that walked out. senator harris has an aggressive plan, the first ever in the country. here in south carolina, that would be about a 19% raise. as we hear the senator talk about her agenda, you'll start seeing those numbers come a lot closer. >> president trump certainly paying very close attention. he was asked about the exchange between harris and biden on the former vp's record on government-mandated bussing. take a listen to what he had to say. >> i thought she was given too much credit.

he didn't do well and maybe the facts weren't necessarily on his side. i think she was given too much credit for what she did. it wasn't that outstanding. and i think poobl he was hit harder than he should have been hit. >> all right. so is the president worried about kamala harris? >> he definitely should be. senator harris has proven time and again that she is the only candidate on the democratic side that can prosecute a case against donald trump. donald trump is out of touch and out of step especially when it comes to the issue of race and economic inequalities for african-americans and hispanic americans and the wealth gap of the african-american community and the gap with gender. so, no. list listen, he has no authority to talk about this issue in a credible way. >> all right. so, should he be concerned about

the primary? let's talk about the numbers here. we've got a new poll. biden is down now, following the debate. you've got harris continuing to climb. what's your reaction to these new numbers? >> well, i'm not surprised, to be honest with you. you can go back to an interview that i did on another network right before the jim clyburn fish fry. i said what i said earlier. as the people here in south carolina and across the country get to know senator harris and listen to her message, how she tells her story and connects it to policy and on top of that, listen to the american people, you will start seeing those numbers climb. as i mentioned before, she has been on the national stage for about four years now. former vice president biden has been in the national media for over 40 years. you'll start seeing those

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i think they want open borders, even though four years ago they wanted walls to be built. >> that was president trump earlier this morning after the g20 summit in japan, characterizing democratic immigration plans as open border policies. with me here is raul reyes. thank you for joining me this morning. >> good morning. >> president trump keeps saying the democrats want open borders. is that what you took away from the debates? is this basically a call to the base? >> no. that's the standard gop, president trump talking point in response to basically anything that the democrats put forward on immigration. what the president may have most likely been referencing, julian castro put forward a plan to do away with the immigration code that would decriminalize illegal entries at the border. that means that people who came in illegally could still be

deported but that takes away the basis for the family separations that the trump administration have carried out. that's what's at the heart of that proposal. >> also all the candidates raised their hands to support providing health care coverage to undocumented immigrants. you can see that right there. what does this say about how they're going to approach their immigration agenda? >> they're comfortable in staking out aggressive positions. when we talk about providing health care to undocumented people, this would not be a handout or something they get free. it would just be allowing undocumented people to buy into the exchanges or buy obamacare, just like other americans. a good test of how that plays out among the general public is in california. this year, california has gone forward with a plan to offer undocumented people health care, to a limited group beginning in january, young people between 18 and 25. some people in the democratic party will be looking to

california, see how that goes with the public and how that program works and potentially incorporating that into their policy and platform. >> well-talk more about daca. the supreme court will make that decision, hear arguments, the obama-era program that protects so-called dreamers from deportation. the trump administration has been trying to whittle away at this since 2016. what do you think will happen as we head toward that big date? >> that's the million dollar question. these dreamers are living in a sort of limbo position right now. long-term they tent know what their future in this country is going to be like, or if they have a future in this country. we will probably get a decision from them in june 2020. i think the risk is that this supreme court has, in the past, the majority has operated with a

type of blinders on and said basically this is a problem that can, in theory, be fixed by congress. therefore, we will strike it down with the understanding that this should go in the hands of lawmakers, whereas in reality we know that although there's great public and political consensus around daca in an election year with congress, if the supreme court that way there's unlikely any support in congress to save these young people from deport aegs. if they fall out of status to the trump administration, these young people are basically the same as gang members or members of a cartel and would all be at risk for being deported. >> julian castro and beto o'rourke, who lasts longer? >> right now i'm going with julian castro. he took a risk. seemed to knock beto off his game, called him out being

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new reaction this morning from president trump to senator kamala harris' taking on former vice president joe biden during the democratic debate. the president saying this during a news conference earlier this morning. >> i think she was given far too much credit for what she did. that was so out of the can, what she said. that thing was red out of a box. i thought that he didn't response great, but it wasn't -- it wasn't i don't think nearly as bad as they portended it to be. joining >> joining me now is jess o'connell and ashley pratt. good morning to both of you. thank you for joining us. ashley, is president trump trying to downplay senator harris there?

is he worried about her becoming more of a threat? >> he's always like this when there's strong women involved. he needs to take to twitter, have conversations about it in a way that almost is demeaning and degrading. i think we need to give senator harris some credit. she definitely was the clear winner in the debates. whether or not she can keep that momentum going, seeing there's 493 days until the general election, the primaries in between that, we'll see. the other night she was prepared. she was poised. she made sense. she was able to go after the front-runner in a way that made him a bit more vulnerable. that's something we do need to look at moving forward. i think the biden team will have to recollect as he moves forward and figure out how to position himself better on some of these topics. i think she presented herself as a strong, clear, articulate woman ready to lead this country. that threatens donald trump so he will downplay it.

>> this week should give us confidence that a woman can lead the fight against this grotesque president. surely it's not riskier to back the woman who won the debates rather than the men who lost them. some powerful words i quoted there. do you think this changes the way the party thinks who should be their nominee. >> that's what this process for. she told a story about being bussed as a second grader in the bay area to school. that's the opposite of canned and out of the box. it's going to be the story telling we see from these candidates about their personal experiences that will make a difference. that's why having women and people of color and people with unique experiences and different lenses around their experience in this united states, that will make a difference in the story telling around this election and issues that we're facing. so i think she did a great job. in terms of a woman being able

to take it to donald trump, obviously kamala harris showed that without a doubt. i think also elizabeth war rememb ren showed that the night before. you had basically two women who won these debates. there is a long road ahead and that's what this is for. voters will choose. >> joe biden still on defense after the criticisms by harris. listen to what he said yesterday. >> we all know that 30 seconds to 60 seconds on a campaign debate exchange can't do justice to a lifetime committed to civil rights. i want to be absolutely clear about my record and position on racial justice, including bussing. i never, never, never opposed voluntary bussing. i fought my heart out to ensure that voting rights, equal rights are enforced everywhere.

>> what should biden do about his civil rights record, what belie believes going forward? >> he is clearly doubling down. i think that's a smart tactic except for the fact he's missing the key point here. there is a way for him to talk about his history and his voting record in a way that makes more sense with today's voters in light of kamala harris' remarks to him asking him to think about it. everybody knows joe biden is not a racist. his intention there's may have been good. at the same time he needs to think about how he's talking about these issues. it's not enough to say that, you know, as vice president i did x, y, z. or as my time as senator i did all of these things. her personal story will be what voters think about moving forward. i do think this does have an ability to shift the race. he was polling very high with african-american females and african-american voters in general. i think by over 10% in the

leading candidates. so i do think this is going to shift their perspectives a bit if he can't get on point with his messaging. >> jess, do you think she hahe have been more prepared for that kind of attack at the debate? >> if he wasn't, he is now. if you're the front-runner and there's 20 plus candidates coming for you, you will have to be ready. i think he will be. this is someone who has a 40-plus year history of being ready. he has been a tremendous public ser servant. the challenge that the vice president will face is a generational one and one of language. he has to continue to figure out how to tell his story of service, how to tell his story in this particular moment in time where we're up against a p president who uses language and words to divide us as a country. he has to get a bit sharper about how he tells his story of service. i expect he will do that. he has a great team around him

that will work on that. he should expect the other candidates will try to draw contrasts here. they have some stories to tell, too. what's most exciting and important about what happened this past week, we're finally talking about a different vision for this country. >> all right. do you think then that kamala harris is stronger than joe biden, jess? >> i think what's exciting and energizing right now, is that we saw a lot of candidates out of those two nights in miami, a lot of candidates inspiring people. the person that will get the nomination for the democratic party will inspire people, they are going to be able to take it to donald trump and they'll be able to present a vision that's different for this country that people are hungry for. whoever does that best will win. >> all right. thank you both so much. high court rulings behind the decision on the krcensus an daca. all that coming up on "up."

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. that will do it for me this hour. thanks so much for watching. i'll see you again right here tomorrow morning at 6:00 a.m. eastern. now it's time for "up" with david gura. ♪ this is "up," i'm david gura and president trump just wrapped up his visit to japan for the g20 with a 75-m l