good evening, and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lead, crossing the line between accepted wisdom on how presidents deal with dictators and, of course, the trump way. the president went with what many would call the unacceptable today. crossing the demilitarized zone into north korea for an hour-long meeting with the country's dictator kim jong-un. breaking with past presidents and meeting the brutal kim family of tyrants on their own soil. even going so far as to invite kim to the white house. posthaste. >> i would invite him right now. to the white house. >> it was the second time this week that president trump played too nice with a hostile foreign

despot on his asia trip, coming off his meeting with russian president vladimir putin where he made a soft pitch to respect our next election. and this morning's stat status-conferring visit with kim comes a month after north korea violated u.n. restrictions by firing short-range missiles and it has not agreed to stop pursuing nuclear weapons, although president trump insists talks will restart thanks to today's meeting. so my question, other than what was gained by this bizarre milestone, is how does the president pick the dictators he taunts and the ones he talks to? or do these strong men just speak his language? joining me now, dean, radio host

and daily news columnist. rene shaw, republican strategist and founder of the woman's public leadership network. and daniel lippman, white house reporter for politico. let me go to you, rene. other than a diplomacy by spectacle and plan to the big photo op, what was achieved by today to have the president meet with kim, actually step foot on north korean soil, what was gained for the american people in terms of security, in terms of trying to make sure that they do not continue building toward the possession of nuclear weapons in the hands of north kore koreans? >> well, trump supporters would argue that much was gained by the president taking this unprecedented move. frankly, frutrump supporters i' spoken to in all parts of the country, the mid-flake, the south, the west, people love the fact he's taken such an

unconventional approach to dealing with people like kim, to taking this very much, you know, shoot from the hip, let's see what sticks approach. and i think that's where trump feels like today was a win for the people that put him in office. so he's -- >> but -- >> -- feeling like he's making headway. >> explain to me what. just photo ops, just the optical presenting i can shake hands with a dictator, go across the border into north korea. does it mean, there's no commitment on nukes, no commitment on short-range missiles, no commitment on anything. so with are we saying mr. trumps his supporters are so dense that that is enough to give them? >> that is what i'm saying because these conversations i've had, these folks feel like he's taking steps in the right direction. so while, again, there's no commitment today, and it was a photo op in the minds of many of us who believe that he shouldn't even have taken these steps,

republicans feel like this is a way to do things differently. this is a way to bring kim to the table. and perhaps get to the end goal which is denuclearization in a unique way. i've had this conversations. i find themthey really wanted a disrupter. that's when they found in trump. >> it doesn't mean it's going to lead to construction of what people need and, again, you have the last time they met in hanoi, it fell apart. they couldn't agree on things. what changes now? because they took some photos and said they liked each other, it wasn't even the illusion of there was going to be some kind of substantive change. they talked about they are going to meet again. who knows when. and even invited him to the white house. here's a man that was -- that was shunned. i'm talking about kim jong-un. by the whole world. now he gets a white house invitation. and has put nothing on the

table, nothing, that would guarantee anything to the american people in terms of security. >> yeah, it's pretty amazing that someone who starves his own people, uses billions of dollars to manufacture nuclear weapons, instead of developing his own country, would get invited to the white house. but we should remember that even trump admits that they haven't had as much progress as he might have hoped for and he didn't want to give into a deal in hanoi which would have been too favorable to kim. >> right. >> and we should also remember that this is problem that has bedeviled many american presidents in recent decades. so trump is not the first, but he does seem to be too gullible in just accepting that his own personal diplomacy will persuade kim jong-un that his actual national security interests are, you know, just give up all my nuclear weapons because trump, you know, loves me so much. that's just not how foreign policy and national security

work in the world. >> especially now with despots. dean, the fact of the matter is, that we have this president, if you normalize dictators like a kim, and you make them acceptable, even with white house invitations, then what do you offer them to even make any deals with you on nukes? you can't offer him any more than you've already given him. you normalized him. you're acting like starving and killing his own people, maybe even his own -- behind his oewn brother being killed, so if you already normalized him and already said he's acceptable by your actions, in the world family of world leaders, you have no -- anything he's lacking is respectability. he's gaining that every time dronald trump does the photos

with him. >> for him, a win is us not talking about the 2020 democrats. for us, a win, we're talking about donald trump again. he doesn't even talk about the american college student otto warmbier essentially killed by the kim regime. >> exactly. >> the whole week, you laid out, this was like dancing with the dictators this week, putin, joking about don't meddle in our election, wagging his finger. >> with wia smile on his face. >> when the russians attacked us, russian military gru unit attacked us under the direction of putin. he joked about getting rid of the journalists. get rid of them. to a guy like putin where 26 journalists have been killed under vladimir putin. mbs, he jokes around with the saudi prince defending him at g20, defending the guy who killed jamal khashoggi and get to the end of the week here, the big conclusion is this and you got a situation where what does the united states stand for? do you know nothing about our values, if you saw trump buddying it up, gleefully with putin, with mbs, north korea, you would think our nation is like those nations. our leader is like theirs.

they're cut from the same strongman cloth, about autocracy, not about democracy. that's a sad reality. the world is seeing this picture going i remember the united states used to sitting on the hill. democracy. pluralism. he's destroyed it. >> daniel, yowhen you look at ts president defending the saudis after what happened with khashoggi and his own intelligence leaning toward what really happened there, when you look at him joking with vladimir putin, that you don't have fake news in russia, like implying that he wished that he could do the same to journalists here, that they do in russia and it is well established what they've done to journalists in russia. as a reporter, as a journalist, it has to be chilling to you and should be chilling to all americans. >> it just sends the wrong message to people who are looking at america and wanting to adopt our democratic values

when you have the leader of our country seeming to get along better with the dictators than angela merkel and theresa may and actual democratic leaders who are traditional allies. those allies have gotten shunned in this administration in favor of trying to build relations with people who are murdering journalists. and so i will say that to the administration's credit, in north korea, in the dmz, you had stephanie grisham, the new white house press secretary, actually get bruised by the north korean security officials because she was trying to ensure press access into that meeting. and she probably also knew that there would be horrible headlines from that meeting if, you know, the north korea -- it was only the north korean state media and the american media had been left behind. >> yeah, literally, she was literally bruised.

rine, you know when i was a kid, they used to tell us the story of humpty dumpty who had a great wall. i don't know if it was at the mexican border but he also had a great fall and all the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't but humpty together again. how do you put the republican party back together again after this president? >> rev, there's no doing so after. in the immediate aftermath is what i mean. i'm looking at this as a long game. i know a great many folks like me have always felt that way. it's going to take a long time because what's happened as we've talked about many times here is that what trump is doing is eroding the trust of the american people and our institutions and thus republicans have done one thing. they've said those of us who were part of the never-trump contingent, they've labeled us as establishment hacks and they've said that, you know, we only care about things a certain way. we don't embrace trump because we don't like the way he does things. no, we don't embrace trump because he's not a man of integrity. he doesn't understand the values on which this country was

founded upon. let's not forget he's been asked what western-style liberalism sais and can't answer that. the very basics one needs to govern he has no interest in so putting back together the republican party, that's out the window right now. what we're trying to do is hold on to our values, stand up for principled conservatism and when i say we, i'm talking about a very small group of us that have not fallen in line. that don't want to stand for this. that don't want to see this kind of stuff normalize. we recognize that it is happening because that is the power of the bully pulpit. that is the power of an incumbent. i really do believe the vast majority of americans think this is okay to come into washington and do things differently because obama didn't put america first. clintons didn't put america first. they were corrupt in other things. this is what i've heard from republicans who support this president, they believe it to this day, even though the election was now so many years ago. so this is where we're at. and there's no moving forward until, you know, really we have a come-to-jesus moment, sorry

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the 2020 candidates are out in full force today. making dozens of campaign stops on the last day of june. kamala harris is spending the day in her home state of california. hitting three events including a march in san francisco's pride parade. the senator is also experiencing a post-debate bump according to a recent polling. the latest morning consult survey shows that harris surging somewhat, up six points from -- six points from last week and now tied for third. and the man she went after at the debate, joe biden, is down five points in that same time period. back with me, daily beast

columnist, republican strategist rina shah -- am i saying it right? >> rina. >> rina. >> no worries. no worries. >> rina shah. no, i got to get it right. and politico's daniel lippman. i was at the debate both night right up front. and what is your assessment, dean, of the debates? night one and two. >> i love politics. i love that america got to get -- meet a whole bunch of candidates they knew nothing about except for a little sound bites here and there. and you got to see them for most part tell what they were about. sometimes fight a little bit. i thought it was interesting that julian castro i thought seemed -- >> he -- >> winner of night one. >> 18 points in favorability. >> in favorability. when you get this first poll, and polls are about trends, folks. everyone knows it. one poll is a snapshot. look at trends. i thought julian castro would go up. he didn't. i thought cory booker would go up a little bit. he didn't. but senator harris did. joe biden lost five points.

bernie stayed the same. this poll and the week before, same polling -- >> so you think the polls indicate that there was a reshuffling of the debt? and we're only looking at one poll. we don't know what tomorrow's pollins are. >> joe biden still has a big, big lead. it's still -- it's not insurmountable but it is -- >> no, it's 14 points ahead of sanders. >> with these many candidates, that is remarkable. let's see how the next few debates play out. >> what do you think, rina? >> i think -- i'm reminded of the michael cohen comment. all the polls. business stuff. look. this is where we're at right now. it's so early. these polls to me are inconsequential at this point. they don't tell us much. i love what dean had to say about this being the american experiment. us getting to know all the people who believe day have a spot in the oval office, they deserve that spot. i agree with kareem abdul jabbar who wrote a piece for the

"hollywood reporter" saying the america peop american people lost out. i didn't hear this clear, conci concise, argument on why the democrats deserve to take over the oval. that's where i felt like it was a disservice to us. these debates actually went so deep into the weeds, so into the details, that we lost sight of something. that there's a man in the white house truly causing dysfunction. i mean, really -- >> yeah -- >> -- more than anything -- in our democracy. >> i was little taken aback on the first night they hardly attacked the president at all. >> yeah. >> it was almost like they were running to succeed a democratic president as was the case in '16. >> yeah. >> you have to make a case on why you want to fire the guy that you're going to run against if you become the nominee. but, daniel, there was the effect that some established, i think, certainly kamala harris did, i think julian castro definitely did, they did

establish they belonged on the stage. as one who ran, myself, in over 30 of those debates, one of the things you want to say early is say you belong up here. i think some did napt cthat. >> yeah, she just seems much energetic on stage compared to joe biden and talking to some democratic activists who, you know, haven't endorsed in the primary, i just got the sense that people thought that she had a much better chance now than she earlier did. and that she could be a credibility president who would go against donald trump in the debates and take the fight to him and that if joe biden repeats his bad debate performance over the next, you know, six, ten, debates, then that could lead to the end of his candidacy because he has a track record of running for president where it did not work out well. and he already made some

misstatements yesterday at a fund-raiser, he was getting, you know, not accosted but challenged by his -- the small audience in the fund-raiser when said, well, it would be okay, you know, five years ago, you can be mean to your gay waiter, and people in seattle at that house were like, what? that's not -- that's not how we would have operated in seattle back then. >> yeah. five years ago, he was also vice president. >> yes. >> i think he should take a different look at the calendar there. and, again, i don't think joe biden is a racist, but to use states' rights in a debate, dean -- >> quintessential -- >> to defend what his position was on busing. i'm sitting there, his refle reflective answer to kamala harris, the local school board decided, not the federal government, which is states' rights and that's a classic, classic, example of states'

rights. the old civil rights movement way before my time in the 5'50s '60s, states' rights, being able to know the federal government would come in and protect people from states that were anti-black, gay, women, or whatever the case may be. >> absolutely. and it jumped out as myself, who writes about politics, also i'm a lawyer, the idea -- that was the argument used by people who did not want the federal government to even the playing field. >> right. >> did not want the federal government to come in and say black students should go to school with white students or you can have separate but equal. the list goes on. supreme court decisions to the civil rights act and voting rights act then gay marriage. to me, it was so out of place, so out of step. biden vis reminding us in 2008, he got less than 1% in the iowa caucus and dropped out. he's a better candidate now. he knows more. >> oh, yeah. >> he's missing it. not sure if he's going to regain it or not. >> some of those things, rina, is what really gets to some of us etch though we think joe

biden may not be a racist because the very core, the whole fight -- i had a co-author that wor worked on my campaign, frank watkins, that used to talk to me all the time about the whole battle in this country with the civil war and going forward was a strong central government or a state-by-state government. that's what the battle has always been in this country. and to allude to that cuts a whole lot deeper than he realized. >> and i couldn't agree more with that sentiment, yes, it was a whole lot deeper than he realized but let me tell you this. yes biden keeps it very simple. to him, he was refuting what kamala came at him with, trying to get him with, with the facts. he was trying to stand up and say, look, there's nobody else on this stage that stood up for civil rights the way in which i have. what i saw in the vice president's face that night was frustration.

he didn't expect to get into that conversation because, number one, frankly, he wants to take on trump. he wants to be the front-runner. he can't believe there are this many people in the race. but secondly, he does feel that in his career, he's stood up time and time again for people that do not have the color of his skin. that's what was frustrating to me, too, as a person of color, as a woman of color, understanding that as an older white man, what more could he do? i just -- i really felt for him in that moment. i agreed with the authenticity of kamala harris. i loved when she came with that personal antidote. it was something i experienced when i was a very young girl. >> i did, too. >> it struck me to the core. it did. don't get me wrong. i'm not a person that doesn't realize my color. but i also understand it's very hard for an older white male to have said anything more beyond what the vice president came back with. i think he was authentic but his frustration maybe cost him a lot of support that night. >> one of the things, daniel, i don't think people understand, i was bused in brooklyn, new york. i'm, you know, nine years older than kamala. we went through it all. this wasn't a southern

experience. i was born and raised in brooklyn. and they bused us because, one, they didn't have high schools in our areas. and those that did, they did not give them the same funding. they did not have the same quality of education. so it was not that people just wanted to let's diversify, can't we all get along? it was to get a quality education. that's the only way you could go. and our parents were afraid for us because people would throw rocks at the buses and all of that but at the same time, they wanted us to get a quality education. i couldn't get in brownsville. there was no high school in brownsville's section of brooklyn. either had to go to either new york that was not as funded or you were bused to flatbrush which i happened to be bused. people don't understand what busing was in berkeley, brooklyn, or boston, where there were riots when there was busing. >> yeah, it's not busing just for the sake of busing. >> right. >> it's that these are better schools and with the history of discrimination against

african-americans and other minorities, the best way to do that to rectify that is to get people good education so they can get a good job and go to college and so the, you know, that's what most americans, some of them who don't get why it was important for busing to be policy, it's because of that. because of the long history of african-americans being held down by the establishment that did not want them to succeed. >> exactly. >> and at least, you know, democrats understand that. many of them do. president trump was asked about busing and he thought, well, there's not that many ways to get to school. doesn't look like he's read his history -- >> he was way off base. >> -- textbooks on. >> on what he understood about busing. we are talking about president trump who thinks global warming is just something that is not true. i mean, when you got a guy sitting in the white house that doesn't even understand what busing was for and the insensitivity of one of our

major democratic candidates opposing him, it is scary to many of us that have particularly been fighting these issues but it's scary to a lot of people. many thanks to my panel for being with us tonight. coming up, police in florida are still trying to figure out how a cop who had a history of making racist comments on the people he's sworn to protect won officer of the year in his department. that's ahead. so, i needed legal advice, and i heard that my cousin's wife's sister's husband was a lawyer, so i called him. but he never called me back! if your cousin's wife's sister's husband isn't a lawyer, call legalzoom and we'll connect you with an attorney. legalzoom. where life meets legal.

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and now for this week's gotcha. a case or vetting, not of more candidates but cops. because we've heard the common refrain that it's a few apples spoiling the reputation of american law enforcement by abusing unarmed people of color. i'd even offer up that it might be true, but this week in orlando, florida, we saw that even the good apples can have some racist worms up in them. see, in february, the orlando police department named officer jonathan mills his 2018 patrol

officer of the year for, quote, being the most proactive member of his squad. end quote. of course, a little activity wouldn't have saved the department embarrassment because a review of officer mills' resume on a street, it would play like police misconduct's latest hits. two whole years before mills was honored, he was the subject of not one, but two allegations of excessive force. the first involving a 57-year-old man who alleged that mills tased and body slammed him during a 2013 traffic stop. despite the suspect's compliance. the second of which involving a nonconsensual physically intimate search of a suspect during a 2014 traffic stop of the wrong car. both incidents resulted in federal lawsuits against the

city of orlando. later settled to the tune of $130,000 combined. mills took no blame for the incidents which worked out since orlando's pd never punished him, anyway. for that or the more than 15 citizens complaints filed against him from 2012 to 2015. but on wednesday, orlando's pd citizens review board called, quote, plblatant racism on mill for a 2016 traffic stop. the body camera footage of which has him telling onlookers in a predominantly black neighborhood that they don't know how to buy a house, his home was bigger than theirs and to a black woman present that she needed to get her hair done because it was, quote, sad. orlando's police chief told reporters that his department is now reviewing how it hands out its annual awards moving

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welcome back to "politi "politicsnation." in the last decade social media has become a tool of law enforcement with police officers often using suspects' social media footprint as evidence of criminal participation or at least intent. but in the last month, multiple investigations have exposed dozens of american cops for expressing racist, anti-semitic, and islamophobic viewpoints in their own online social media lives. last week, in the city of brotherly love, philadelphia, 72 police officers were taken off

the street after an internal investigation found that their facebook profiles were filled with violent and offensive messages. the city's mulling over the appropriate punishments with some of the officers allegedly facing termination as other police departments named in the probe, st. louis, phoenix, and dallas, are also struggling with what to do about explicit bias in their ranks. joining me now, philadelphia district attorney larry krasner. mr. krasner, it is alarming when i started getting calls from people that work with us, in philly, deacon smith and others, about the protests that many were doing there, to read some of the vile, racist, and islamophobic and anti-semitic things that was on some of the social media by policemen who are sworn to uphold and protect

the public, was outright outrageous. >> well, it was. and it was also no song nimisog. making fun of women objected to domestic abuse, making fun of protesters, jokes of driving through a bunch of protesters and having blood all over your bumper. >> this is on social media. these are cops putting this on their social media. >> well, that is a really important aspect of this. it is one thing to think because in this country, we are allowed to think all kinds of vile things but it's another thing as a police officer to take your fingers and press those keys then better yet not just publish it but publish it with no privacy settings. all of these, all the 330 different individual officers' hateful posts that were collected were done with no privacy settings so what we're talking about here is not what people are thinking in the privacy of their home, foul our not. we're talking about people who wish to be identified this way, who published it, who want this

to be their identity to others and based on the fact that over 100 of them were actually sued in federal court for the types of things they were talking about, this is bragging. >> now, you have ran and were elected district attorney saying you wanted to be fair across the board. and for you to have to deal with this, you can understand now why there are many people in various segments of your city and i might add that your city's not alone in this. i named other cities. this is a national problem. have little confidence. if you have police that were not trying to cover who they are, no privacy, that make a public record of their bias. >> yeah, it's very troubling, and, you know, there is a deeply entrenched culture in the police uni unions, not just in philadelphia, but all across the country i think is probably best reflected this way. our head of union, john mcnesb

kbrr y in december 2017, after there was a shooting of an african-american man unarmed at the time he was shot by a white police officer, white police officer who shot someone previously and paralyzed that person, after that occurred, about 12 protesters showed up near the home of that officer and the head of the police union described them. these were, you know, black lives matter affiliated protesters. as a, quote, pack of rabid animals. unquote. that -- that is how the head of the order of police who endorsed donald trump, who fought to make sure you could be a police officer, who didn't live in the city, you know, they changed the residency requirements. that's how he wanted to express himself. if that's the chief of your union, that says a lot about the culture of that union. >> i know a lot of this boiled to the top, as i said, because of protesters, some i know, some whur there in your city.

and those that helped to bring this out. did any policemen turn in other policemen because they were receiving these vile social media postings or was this something that came from external sources to the police department? because we always talk about good cops and there certainly are good cops but why didn't some other policemen say this guy's a danger, this is unacceptable? >> well, it's an excellent point. this was entirely done by journalists. one of whom is a young lawyer who came from philadelphia and kind of stumbled across some of these postings then started to investigate in six different cities very carefully, by the way, making sure the people who posted really were police officers. and screening out things that were much more like comments as opposed to hateful things. it's -- you know, it is a very, very difficult situation to be in as a police officer, a decent hardworking equality-minded

police officer to have to report another officer because the culture is such that you know that other officers may not have your back. that they may turn on you. you know, it's a dangerous job. you have to have others have your back. there is definitely an entrenched culture in philadelphia. a lot of other cities. where the bullies win. the bullies get to be the supervisors. the bullies get to brag their way to positions of authority and to overtime. this whole notion of proactivity is great, unless it's fake and a lot of times it is. it means you're willing to stop cars with no basis and make up a story later. so it's a tough thing. when you're someone who's actually following the rules, doing the right thing, to turn on the ones who are not. >> all right. it's something we're going to continue to monitor. thank you very much, larry krasner. district attorney of philadelphia. thank you. >> thank you, reverend. well, next weekend is the 25th annual essence festival in new orleans. one of the largest gatherings of black folks every year anywhere.

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welcome back to "politicsnation." in just four days, i'll be

headed down to new orleans for the 25th annual essence music festival. the event is dubbed the party with a purpose. a celebration of black women and black culture. and it will feature some of the biggest names in entertainment. business, fashion, and, yes, politics. i will be honored to conduct interviews during the festival with senators kamala harris, qu cory booker, elizabeth warren and more. joining me now, as will, of course, on the stage with the presidential nt candidates and coordinate everything around this huge festival is the ceo of essence, michelle ebanks. michelles a quarter of a century is unbelievable and only gotten bigger and bigger and bigger. >> reverend sharpton, it's -- we so appreciate the bold visionary leadership of essence founders

and executives, the founding mayor. all of our leadership, reverend sharpton, of course, you were there the first year giving a keynote address and now the largest live event in the country. it it has grown in 25 years and we are more excited than ever. >> now bringing "essence" back to black ownership. youb taken the helm several years ago and turn itting it around. i was there for over 25 years and it the money brought into that town. the people that benefit in terms of businesses and then you have corporations falling over themselves now to make presentation because there's rar body of people that are major consumerers. tonia lum bard, who's a new orleans native there, probably

the queen of corporate executives, tells me that you can't sell a product if you're not at "essence." >> that's right, reverend sharpton. the urgency of the "essence" festival is greater than ever before now that he's returned it to black ownership. "essence" festival is our cultural home where we come together from around had country and around the world and yes, we are bigger and larger than ever before and more impactful. it's not only a music festival, there's music, film and television, food and wine. the are multiple conferences. our power conference. our executive women's conference. our new global economic forum. the it exhibitions, yes. our fortune 100 companies are

there in the convention center. it's exciting to see our beauty exhibition and our fashion house. reverend sharpton, our marketplace. you mention entrepreneurship. $100 million fund for women of color and our marketplace supports over 200 women and black-owned businesses. so this really growing our economic impact, positioning our selves for the next 25 years that will be even more extraordinary is right in front of us. >> now i mentioned that several of the presidential candidates will be there to speak and you and i and dennis lieu will askthem some questions and we're going to do special segments on "politics nation" on essence" live from new orleans next saturday and sand. buttle us abo tell us about som

entertainmentheadline names and a specialgust. year going to celebrate with some real top names this year. >> oh, absolutely. you know if you think about our musical talent, over 80 artist in the louisiana superdome from missy elliott, mary j. blige, nas, germane dupre, frankie beverly and mays. year going to celebrate friday, saturday, and sand night in the louisiana superdome and on saturday michelle obama will headline our saturday evening show there in the superdome for the first time ever. our forever first lady. we're very excited about celebrating, hearing from michelle obama. she'll be interviewed by regina

king. you won't be able to hear a pin drop -- we are waiting on edge and yes, during the day you mentioned the presidential candidates. we're very excited. black women. the black woman vot is extraordinarily important in this election and we had congresswoman omar, maxine waters, mayor lutoyau cantrell, black women mayors from around the it country. we have the biggest names unentertainment. film and television. we have it all and we have the best corporations. as on the f -- this is where they show up to show that they're at home with this consumer, which is so important in our country. >> well, i can't wait. i've been there all 25 years and i'm going to do my best to be there for the next 25 years and

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as we go into the fourth of july this week and the celebrations and the fireworks, president trump has announced that he's going to have a gathering at the lincoln memorial celebrating the fourth of july. my mind immediately went back to earlier in his presidency when someone mentioned to him the

very famous respected black abolitionest, ex-slave, fredric douglas who made an iconic speech about why black americans, slaves, didn't celebrate the fourth of july because they werer enslaved when the country started. somebody since donald trump referred to douglas in a way that made us feel he didn't even know fredric douglas had passed nearly a century -- nearly over a century. maybe someone ought to give him a copy of fredric douglas's speech to help him understand how people went through different journeys in this country. he's talking about going to lincoln memorial, maybe someone ought to give him a copy of a speech made in the lincoln memorial by dr. martin luther king where at the end of it the world knows i have a dream. and americans gave black as bad

check that bounced in the bank of justice marked insufficient funds. do a little reading on your way, mr. president, don't make it another spectacle. let's deal with where this country has had to come from, how it has made progress and how you shouldn't turn dr. king's dream into a nightmare. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next saturday at 5:00 p.m. eastern live from the "essence" festival in new orleans. up next "meet the press" with chuck tautd. this sunday after the debates, 20 candidates and moments of confrontation. >> if you did your homework on this issue -- >> because i couldn't get it done. >> reporter: statements of purpose . >> we need make structural change in our government, economy and our country. >> reporter: and a shift to the

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