that's it for me for now. i will see you tonight at 11:00 p.m. eastern. and find me on twitter, facebook, instagram, snapchat and linkedin. thank you for watching. "deadline:white house" with nicolle wallace starts right now. >> hi. 4:00 in new york. brand new poll shows the democratic primary contest has officially been up-ended by last week's debate performance by kamala harris. quinnipiac poll shows harris in a statistical tie with joe biden. the democratic party has two front-runners, two candidates ahead of the rest of the pack. both of them in the promising signs of the democrats clearly trigger the president. here's the poll showing kamala harris at 20% and joe biden at 22, within the margin of error.

elizabeth warren at 14%, bernie sanders at 13%. mayor pete buttigieg, at 4%. this poll shows a trend of biden slumping a bit down 10 points since may and kamala harris surging, up 9. for his part, the president is showing jitters sitting down with tucker carlson in some unhinged tweets this morning. quote, as most people are aware, according to the polls, i won every debate, including the three with crooked hillary clinton. despite the fact in the first debate they modulated the sound on me and got caught. got caught modulating. i missed that. this crew looks somewhat easier than crooked but you never know. that tweet coming as twitter started to percolate with this

reaction with this bizarre exchange with tucker carlson. >> coming where we are now in tokyo and the cities are clean, there's no graffiti, no one going to the bathroom on the street. >> it's very nice, isn't it? >> very different from our city. >> some of our cities -- >> new york city, san francisco, los angeles, they have a problem with filth. >> very sad. very sad. >> why is that? >> it's a phenomenon that started two years ago. it's disgraceful. i will maybe -- i'm looking at it very seriously, doing other things, you probably noticed like great important things we're doing now. we're looking at it very seriously where you can't do that, police officers are getting sick just by walking the beat. they're actually getting very sick. people getting sick and people living there are living in hell, too. people who work in those cities work in office buildings. to get into the building they have to walk through a scene

nobody would have believed possible three years ago. this is the liberal establishment, this is what i'm fighting. >> losing it or some say maybe making a play for the base, the base of what, i'm not sure, the clean patrol? that and the state of the race is where we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friends. senior advisor from moveon.org and former rnc chairman, michael steele who may or may not have been giggling during that clip. that was too silly. [laughter]. >> what was that! you know what, and joy reid is here. we buried the lead. we'll get back to it. what was that? fist of all, if it started two years ago -- >> what started two years ago. when he got there. i guess he's blaming himself.

>> the subject was filth and -- >> we're doing a lot of things that are basically comprised of the things we're doing. many people say some of the things we're doing are things we're doing. >> important things we're doing. >> it appears yesterday we started with this antidote where peter baker asked him if he still shares the values of western liberalism, democracy and freedom. he said the western cities are -- no, i am not for coverage of people's ignorance. there is something wrong with him, you know. there's something wrong with him, michael steele? >> complete and total out of touch with anything close to reality if you think western liberalism is the west coast of -- >> the liberals in the west? >> the liberals in the west coast. >> this interview was laughable.

this president, i have to give him some cred on this when tucker asked him, what do you want to do about it? i don't know. what am i supposed to do about people living on the street? it plays to this narrative, you mentioned the base, it plays to this idea, reinforcing the idea of us versus them. starting the conversation with, you were just in osaka in tokyo and the streets were clean and people -- there was no graffiti. >> he said no one was peeing -- maybe something is wrong with tucker carlson. maybe i'm worried about the wrong dude. >> we have an issue with folks who live on the streets and cities battle with that every single day. a lot of folks, just because -- do it because that's what they want to do. that's how they want to live, their lifestyle. there are people there for a lot of varieties -- >> i'm exhausted talking around this.

yesterday, he mixed up western liberalism, liberal elites living in l.a. in that review he talked about filth that started two years ago when he was elected. what is that about? >> the reality is donald trump has been a fellow retiree who watches fox news. he golfs and shouts at the tv. what tucker carlson specifically spells out on fox news is liberalism and hell holes full of criminals and poverty and garbage and people peeing everywhere. that's what he's selling, right? in their minds they want red america to be this pristine wonderland where donald trump has suddenly snapped his trump and made america great again. it's white and there are no immigrants. that's what tucker carlson sells and donald trump is his customer. >> if they're still friends at fox, it's kamala harris moving

into front-runner status, they may want to rethink this. you look at that debate performance, he will be one and done with answers like that if she ends up being the democrat democrats land on many many months from now. >> she showed she can prosecute the case and knows how to prosecute really really well. there's a lot to prosecute with donald trump. it's bizarre talking about donald trump because he doesn't make sense. there's a deeper dive into it. there's fox news absolutely, i think joy laid it really well. they're playing to a certain base and the otherism game and it's dangerous what we've seen from donald trump in the last two years. they will take it to 2020. brown and black people are bad, they live in filth, they commit crimes and this is how they live and all of us are just fine. but you don't want them to get into your space. you don't want to get them into your space incomplete make sure you elect donald trump. that's the whole message they're

packaging. unfortunately, it's hurting the policies they're putting out there, hurting so many people, including his own voters. >> i guess there is something that we don't cut to the bone on, and it's that -- i've been obsessed with this since 2015, the asymmetry of the two sides. if we were on the other side, we'd watch those tapes and say there's evidence of mental deterioration and flagrant racism. let's slow that down and listen to it again. the moves that the president and his family have already put on kamala harris. they knew she would be in first place by today. they knew because they trotted out birtherism 2.0 before quinnipiac came out at 2:00 today. this is up to the democrats to figure out how to respond to donald trump. you know where you stand, go to your bus to wherever you live on. it is up to the democrats to

handle that. his voters are so conditioned to rambling nonsense, flagrant information like donald jr. twoeti tweeting out the birtherism effort against kamala harris and the hypocrisy. >> the high and low, talking about japan, people all of the same color versus cities that are diverse, cities he's never experienced. the thing about the western liberalism that gets me down, i don't expect him to know john locke or jon stewart miller, any icons of western liberalism. i expect him to stand up for the world order we created, a bastion of freedom and democracy and letting people choose. instead, he's siding with vladamir putin, who wants to unravel it. this is our whole world and planet we helped create and he's

totally ignorant of it. >> he doesn't care. >> he doesn't believe in it. >> michael steele, is there a limit, though -- i know how powerful. joy and i started this conversation monday night. republicans see what we see. they don't hit mute on fox. they see everything. what they do is they watch it, take it in and say, i don't care, it's the supreme court. he could appoint six seats. is this a deal with the devil, it doesn't matter how bad he gets? >> absolutely that. it has been that for 15 years. it has been that since the last appointment of george bush to the supreme court. that is stuck in the craw of grassroots republicans across the country for all this time. in every presidential cycle they have focused on that. the base has focused on that issue when the top candidates have not, including the

presidential candidate. they have given lip service to it, made promises about it. donald trump is the first to have ever delivered. they're not going to break that bargain with him because the very point you made to, they know there are upwards of six potential appointments the president can make by the conclusion of the second term in toto. that is a reordering of everything from the judiciary to the way government functions. you put your finger on the key thing democrats and i say, people in the media have failed to understand about donald trump. he is not a traditional typical political player. he is an asymmetrical player. everyone wants to engage with him as if he's playing by the rules that have been set in place going back 75 years. that is not the way he plays and it is not the way he will play. you talk about prosecuting the case for kamala harris thursday against joe biden. great. prosecute that case all day long

against donald trump and he will laugh you off the stage and win. why? he knows the case you will prosecute will not resonate with the american people. you have to come at it from a different perspective and different angle in a way to get donald trump needled by. >> what is that? >> i'm not going to tell you. >> i will stake a stab at it. the size of his crowds. he flattered her with the size of her crowd. i will get you to spill within the hour, buddy. why don't democrats make that argument? >> the thing is with democrats, democrats do approach the world as people who want to govern, as people who wanted consensus. the search for consensus is part of what's crippling for trump now. nancy pelosi thinks the smart thing to do is how to do a transportation bill with this

guy, if we could do infrastructure and give him a great eisenhower moment, he will somehow come to politics. he is not a backier jeb bush, not a politician, not approaching this from the point of being a president. we talked about the belief of what america stands for, he doesn't. his family has always been about one thing, making money for himself. grand dicing for himself and wants to talk he and his friends like kim jong un and saudi arabia, they have a lot of money and have absolute power. that's all he cares about. if somebody thinks he will carry the ball and flag for western democracy the way a former president would, republican or democrat, treating him that way is a mistake. they cannot do that. he's saying to white christian america, this is your country, i'm giving it back to you and taking it away from the black people and brown people and

immigrants. full stop. they don't care about anybody else. he's saying to the same white christians, we with give you the court. it won't matter if they're the majority, it will still be yours because our six or seven supreme court justices will hold this country for you and nobody else. snow what's your counter narrative to that. if you know that, how do you politically reposition on the political chessboard to deal with that narrative that resonates? because either one of two things are true, you can't, right? or the people he's talking to, i said for a long time, go far beyond that 38%. all right. we've seen the polling where educated white women have landed in the last election. where 49% of them landed in the last election, right? >> 52. >> i'm talking about in 2018, they voted for the trump candidate. my point is, those are your realities that you don't have an

appropriate political response and the people that you need to stand with you won't because they fundamentally 30 core agree with what he's saying. if what you do is you do the math. the people who disagree with trumpism do not want a christian nationalist america are the majority. of that majority, they don't vote. not enough of them vote. what barack obama did, ingenious about his campaign and you more profoundly than i did, i was a small player. he went to the non- -- people on the sidelines and said, come on. the white ones taken an l for him. they didn't put him in. do to white americans who didn't vote and say, what are you getting out of this? taking your soybean farms and flushed them down the garbage and ruin our standings in the world. think about your own pocketbook. come off the sidelines. democrats need to speak to

non-voters. get their base out. that is a majority. >> here's one problem with the democratic process. we, the democrats in the primaries do not have winner take all primaries, they're all proportionate delegate primaries. you have 22 candidates. it's a recipe. >> joy was there and saw my pictures. >> you don't consolidate aron anybody and it can go -- >> let me defend the democratic party for a minute. y'all are pretty consolidated around your two front runners. they're sitting above 20th% and warren and bernie are -- >> wait until next week. >> you don't think warren, sanders and buttigieg and harris are your top tier? >> that's five people. >> it's for a year and a half. no one is voting for many many months. >> it happened with hillary and what's his name. >> bernie? >> there basically if you had a winner take all primaries, it

would have been over on super tuesday and you would have consolidated around a candidate and wouldn't have weakened the main candidate. >> at this time? >> super tuesday has a special -- california -- and texas are in super tuesday. will be the stopper. >> this a brand new quinnipiac poll, kamala harris is even with joe biden. elizabeth warren at 14%. barnie sanders at 13%. mayor pete buttigieg at 14%. i will give you a double header. among african-american voters, joe biden still has 31%. kamala harris, 27%. probably outside the margin of error but very very close. in that makes sense because of the type of -- the type of hit,

blow, 2x4 she took to biden, makes a lot of sense. it was purposeful. the thing both of them need, biden and kamala harris, they both have to win south carolina. the majority of that democratic base primary is african-american voters. you see in that polling it work tod some degree, she got their attention. we've been talking all the way up to the debate how things would shape up. we've been saying that. we have a race. a race is on. this is democracy. i think the way we have it set up is perfectly fine. we don't need a winner take all. it will settle itself out. it's a long long long process. the funniest thing i saw in that polling is marion williamson is doing better with black voters than pete buttigieg. >> what is that all about? >> what is that?

>> it's oprah. >> go to more meetings. >> what is going on? she's doing better with african-americans. >> how is buttigieg a zero? >> i assumed going on buttigieg would rise in the media and i assumed his city in south bend might have 1% african-american and that's the challenge. they're 46%. if you have almost half of your population is african-american and don't have one person to say, he has been great to our community and it's a problem. in a city with that many black people in it, no record to show. black voters want to know that you see them. >> can i ask a question when i look at the polling real quick, what do you think will happen with pete buttigieg, at 4% with $25 million. certainly, bernie sanders and

elizabeth warren have watched kamala harris leapfrog up to the number 2 spot. i hope they're -- the harris campaign is prepared for the fire that's going to come from beneath them, and there's a lot to go after kamala on, and so -- >> from the right or the left? or both? >> from the left n. the door she's opened on race, yes, she was that young girl who was bussed many years ago to across town, but i know a lot of democrats are sitting there thinking, you were the prosecutor, the older woman who sent a lot of black men to prison. >> you're mean. >> that will be an interesting conversation. i'm just telling you. >> that's the attack that's coming. >> to constantly bring this back to who the real competition will be however the democratic primary ends up, here's donald trump on busing. >> it has been something they've

done for a long period of time. there aren't that many ways you will get people to schools. >> i couldn't even hear it, you all were laughing so hard. i had my ear pressed like an air traffic controller. what it is, the president there, i believe saying, there are only so many ways to get to a school. you can walk, you can bike, you can take the bus. again, i put this to my democratic friends, y'all are having this really smart really serious high stakes debate, but the history of segregation and busing, donald trump thinks the busing issue is about a big yellow auto. >> i'd be contrarian on it. obviously i share the revulsion with it. i think the voters think this pointy headed elite liberals are laughing at him because he does not know what busing is and 1954, brown versus board of education. i get that.

you can take a bus or train and they sympathize with him and laugh at us for laughing at him. >> the search has been defined that biden is parallel to trump, older white nostalgic candidate and trump is the one in office. if nostalgia is how you win an election, i don't know anything about elections. normally it's a change election. i just asked myself figuring out the front-runner, who this biggest change from donald trump and presents the ability to function. kamala harris is in a perfect position to be to joe biden what barack obama was to hillary clinton in 2008. once voters see his armor crack, they're not emotional, you can't

win, you can't face her, they will move off of him in a new york minute. >> my earpiece kicked back in. >> i think black voters also know the difference between the primary fight and general election fight. to that extent, i think they will see ultimately who can defeat trump. i don't necessarily think the democrats should be thinking about change as much as they should be thinking about transition. donald trump was a transition away from barack obama, transition away for what the obama administration meant for eight years, i think biden is the best person to make the case, i'm the transition for the future and the rest of you, i can hand it off to you in four years. >> he has not made that case. >> i didn't say he would make a case, what he did before, trying to help him out.

>> last word. >> i just have to say this. people are upset with kamala harris for going after joe biden. but joe biden was unprepared. >> this is the real last story. she telegraphed attack earlier. she had seven days. we told you in advance how we were coming for you and you still weren't ready. >> i'm stepping off that one. going to court to get taxes, the breaking news on that legal front as democrats sue for transparency. also ahead, the crisis at the border, the congressional delegation gets inside detention centers and reports and migrant camps and where children are held and whether border patrol agents are spreading racist and hateful contents on their facebook pages. donald trump orders up tanks

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do you have any idea what -- there's no order here. news breaking this afternoon with the congressional investigations around trump with the means and ways committee have taken trump to court. in federal court they're seeking

access to president trump's tax returns accusing the trump administration of an extraordinary attack on congress in preventing disclosure of the president's personal financial records. the fight against the trump administration's stonewalling comes as trump and his allies gear up for a fight against mueller as the findings of his investigation is two weeks away, and event that clearly has his attention. robert mueller is being asked to testify yet again. he said he could only stick to the report and that is what he would and must do. after so much testimony and total transparency. he's never testified, people. i keep reading this. he's never testified. no one has heard from mueller except for 10 minutes. i can't get through a tweet

without fact-checking. it's over. no more do-overs. joining our conversation, white house reporter for the "washington post," lashlashley parker. why is he tweeting about robert mueller? he has left public life and was subpoenaed and will testify. it sounds like 2017 is calling and wants it back. >> the obstruction line is a catchy one and he seems to think he can will it to be true. that answers the question why is he lying or misrepresenting. i will say the president's tweets are generally bite-size glimpses into what the president is thinking real-time. he is thinking about mueller real-time. that july fourth parade is on

his mind it will be a huge day. this is a president who understands drama and moments. i can think of recently it felt like d.c. and the white house was gripped by a testimony, when cavanaugh's accuser came forward and everyone sat there live streaming that all day long. it had real consequences. the president -- also worth noting, the white house is mixed. there is one view that the mueller report is out, every drip drip drip has landed with more of a dud than people expected and this is not going to move or change public opinion or sentiment. it is true this is not something you hear voters talking about, democrat or republican bringing up as their top one, two or three concerns. the flip side is if mueller gets up there and testifies and does go beyond the scope of his report and does maybe explain that comment he made in his very

brief press conference where he said, look, if i could have cleared the president of a crime, i would have. here's all the databases i couldn't clear him. on live television, that could be a rare thing that democrats are hoping to move the needle and sentiment. >> it's such a good reminder the feed is a window, whether we want it or not, into his mind. for better or worse, that is what it is. he's also agitating, you look at how the white house council is working to keep his taxes secret, that would seem to be another investigation or probe that either frightens him or bothers him or irritates him or you expect to see a similar reaction, is that what your sources point you toward? >> yeah. the president has laid out publicly, actually, and you hear this from people privately, a couple of red unquote red lines.

one is his family, daughter ivanka and son-in-law, jared kushner and his finances, an area he has always been incredibly sensitive. the stakes now are a lot higher. even when he was a flashy new york real estate developer, he would always get furious if the forbes list didn't say he was as wealthy as he claim tod be. to be clear he was often claiming he was far more wealthy than he actually was. this gets his sense of actual worth and very much going to frustrate him. >> you mentioned the fourth of july parade. if you take the full picture, it's the investigation that went on for 22 month he put in motion through his own conduct and acts. he's been lying about his wealth for years. michael cohen testified for that

when he went before congress. it was the size of his parties and size of his fourth of july party also on his mind? >> yeah. people talk about the president and his want for a parade ever since he was in france for bastille day and wanted parade in his honor for veterans day and a lot of people in his administration thought it was a bad idea and exorbitant cost. and he talked about this for his inauguration, tanks coming down the avenue. and this is something he mentioned privately before he took the oath and office. he loves a good parade and perform and ceremony and foreigners know is a weakness for him. if they're trying to woo him, i've been on foreign trips they

literally had cannon salutes and red carpets and military marching bands and planes flying overhead. in saudi arabia, his picture plastered on billboards and buildings and makes him more amenable to foreign policies and he's bringing that here and orchestrating it like a producer himself. >> you paint a vivid picture of america's president. thank you for spending some time with us. he loves a good parade, says lashley parker. when we come back, democratic observe facilitates housing at the border. and then whether border agents posted content that is a disgrace. disgrace

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in a cell and seeing 15 women, tears coming down their faces as they talked about being separated from their children, about having no running water. >> one of the women said she was told by an agent to drink water out of the toilet. >> "new york times" describes it this way, quote lawmakers e-american from the border control facilities describing living conditions unfit to hold adults or children. cuban and honduran and guatemalan women and grandmothers and a young pregnant woman sobbing and fearing retribution from osome f the guards for sharing their story. and a secret facebook group talking about the migrants. and all of this including the

sixth death of a migrant since october. a slow moving humanitarian crisis, people dying. 30-year-old man dying at the hands of the government. where is anybody? >> i think in large mesh, what this speaks to at this moment in time, we as citizens have to account, i think, for this, is that we have now bought into this idea of other, where we can look at the human condition in the situation individuals find theirselves in and not see their humanity or plight and feel some empathy or compassion to say, this is not us. this you, this is your problem. we have authorities in place to deal with that. so, when you have democratic members going to these centers and exposing it and speaking out

against it, it is not taken in as a cultural human moment, it is looked at as a political grandstanding opportunity. again, diminishes the response the typical american otherwise would be outraged by this and sensitized to it looking at it and going, trmp is right. >> i have to push back. no one cared yesterday. aoc going to the facility isn't what made people not care. she didn't make people numb yesterday. >> they were already numb to th this. >> you're not saying their visit made it political. >> i'm saying in any other administration or country, would not be viewed as political grandstand writing individual members are castigated and made fun of. the conversation about some of the authorities there, guards making fun of and being derogatory and disrespectful to

those people who are effectively their bosses. >> the reason the civil rights movement was so effective was those leaders, king and others understood television an able to use moving images to shock the conscience mostly of northern white americans, easy to say, talking about the south and saying those whites have to change n. there is no shocking the conscience of trump voters. that is what he promised, to hurt the right people n. anyone of a decent humanity, it's the roman coliseum. to his pays, he's hurting the right people, the people that went down there from the caucus, black and brown lawmakers that went down there. to them, that's the enemy and lies. they don't even believe the pictures if trump says the pictures aren't real n. donald trump has cultivated a roman coliseum in the republican party where they want to hurt those

people and see them suffer. >> where are -- i companies this question answers itself. why was that a partisan trip? why wasn't that bipartisan? we sent bipartisans to iraq. hillary clinton went, nancy pelosi went. no matter how freyed the debates around the wars in afghanistan became, democrats always went on co-dels. there wasn't a single republican on that trip? >> it's trumpism. trump has taken over the republican party. they're not going to lose their seat over anybody, really. this is about their own self-preservation. they're not going to go down there and show they're in coalition with the democrats. that's where we are today. a scary place but where we are today. >> you have christian leaders caring jesus did not care about the immigrants and it is christian to hate the immigrants. sorry. >> no. i'm come back to this same idea

of western liberalism, it was nonpartisan. you had to help the others and immigrants and respect human rights. that's something he doesn't understand at all. the scary part is the cruelty is the point of it, many people have said. he ignores this because it does appeal to his base. this is what i promised. i'm not putting my hand over my head and put them in the police car, i will treat them awfully. that is against every tenant of western liberalism, whatever you want to call it. you touched on it before these members went down there, right? not something that developed or evolved overnight. which republican of the house said, this doesn't seem right, we should do investigate it. what member of the senate said, wait, this is a problem, i need to look at it. >> what about cruz and the

republicans from texas? >> the border, right? even someone like congressman will hurt, who has the longest part of the border in his district, again, the pressure within that pressure cooker of gop politics won't allow that hand to come up and go, this is wrong. >> it's despair is the only word i can think of to describe how that makes me feel. how about we've always pondered what the bottom might look like. we have shades what it might look like. it will look like u.s. government employees, in positions of power with some sort of ability to feel anonymous, when their trueselves come out posting racist and sexist posts. >> and members of congress and

having their supervisors stand there and let them do it. the fact you would disrespect members of congress and not even worry about losing your job means -- >> who's going to fire you. the whole institution is corrupted at this point. >> sorry for that uplifting conversation but it's happening and it's important. after the break, donald trump throws himself a fourth of july bash. this is happening, too. he ordered up military planes and trains and automobiles for entertainment n. this is real and it's next. if you live with diabetes, why fingerstick when you can scan? with the freestyle libre 14 day system

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michael steele on set. just like meeting with kim jong-un on north korean soil, it's a wonder no one ever thought of it before, right? on fourth of july, a big speech at the lincoln memorial, fighter jets flying overhead. military tanks everywhere. half an hour of fireworks. in addition to accusations that trump is politicizing what should be patriotic, "the washington post" says this about the fourth of july celebration. quote, the defense department has not released any estimates of how much the celebration could cost, but the use of numerous aircraft could drive it into the millions of dollars. the f-35 costs $35 tho,000 an h to fly. each blue angel jet costs at least $10,000 an hour to operate and the cost of flying an air force one jet is more than $140,000 an hour. michael steele, as punishment for giggling, you have to go first. >> okay, so the reason our roads and the city i grew up in aren't built for tanks is we don't roll

tanks down constitution avenue or pennsylvania avenue or new york avenue or any street in the city. we are not a militarized zone. we have never had to prove our patriotism by rolling out planes and tanks. this is for the president's own self aggrandized amusement. he went to a bastille celebration a year or two years ago and fell in love with the idea. he's been feted by kim jong-un and others who have rolled out all of these military hardware to show their masculinitmasculi. that's not how our president does it. and so as a native washington n washingtonian, i find it to be offensive. i don't need a tank in my front lawn to tell my neighbor i'm a patriot. what i need to do is celebrate as we always have and remember those who have come before us and celebrate the history and the legacy of this country, as messed up as it is at times,

right, and but still important. and i just find this whole thing to be problematic, let alone just the personal grinding that it causes when i think about what this is really about and this is not saluting america. it's saluting trump. >> and can i just -- you mentioned france and kim jong-un, who donald trump greatly admires kim jong-un. he sort of aspires to be a mini putin or kim jong-un. he wants that absolute power. he claims kim jong-un's people adore him. they have no choice because he would throw them in a guloll and probably kill them. you think about the bastille celebration. what is the message that's meant to be sent by the military armada rolling down the streets of paris. a message to tyrants. what bastille day represents is the victory over tyrannical rule, over the king. and over the attempt for the king to return. the storming of the bastille was about victory over tyrants. what is the message when kim

jong-un rolls tanks down the streets of his capital. it's a message to western democracies, you better be careful because we, the unified korean, north korean people, will defeat you. we have nukes. be afraid of us. what is the message donald trump is trying to send by rolling tanks down constitution avenue? who is that message to? it's certainly not to tyrants because he loves tyrants. it's not to putin, not to kim jong-un, not to the saudis. is it to our friends, to western democracies who he doesn't particularly like, or is it to us? to the resistance in this country. i have tanks. i have this military armada. the message is a threat. but it's always a threat when you roll out your military. but it's to whom is the threat, and i suspect that the threat is to his fellow americans. and i hate to say that, but i think that donald trump styles himself a tyrant, not a defeater of tyrants. >> by the way, in the fact correction department, the u.s. military hasn't used shurlen tanks for 70 years. >> i know. but it's like -- i thought of

that, too. he's like, and the new shermans. it's like, no. >> but the thing is, the message, by the way, of july 4th is also against tyranny, right? >> that's correct. >> these people pledged their lives, their fortunes, their sacred honor to rebel against a tyrant, to rebel against hereditary privilege. by the way, if you play that game, if you took donald trump back to the 18th century, would he be a rebel or a loyalist. he would be a loyalist. >> 100%. >> everybody in his family would be a loyalist, supporting the king and the crown. >> except they wouldn't fight. >> they wouldn't risk their fortune. >> this is what third world dictators do. at the pd of the day, this is going to cost american taxpayers tens of millions of dollars. we were talking about detention centers and how kids are being treated and the government is saying we can't give them toothpaste or soap and we're going to do this?

flint doesn't have clean drinking water. there's so many other problems yet we need to salute donald trump on fourth of july. we're so backwards right now, and i just don't know how we get out of it. >> all right. we promise we'll be more uplifting after the break. don't go anywhere. we'll be right back. ight back.un buying a new car. let's go. limu's right. liberty mutual can save you money by customizing your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. oh... yeah, i've been a customer for years. huh... only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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