it's not just because of the storm that they have been monitoring the system. i will be out here tomorrow with them to make sure that the levee is going to be good. they have put and added sandbags to make sure the water doesn't topple over. they will feel confident and our citizens will be safe. >> councilwoman cindy nguyen the rachel maddow show starts now. >> thanks to you at home and happy to have you with us tonight. honestly, there are a whole bunch of developing news stories we are following tonight on what of course is a very busy friday because that's what fridays are always like now. just within the last hour or so, we are getting in images from protests around the country that are being held under the banner of lights for liberty. these are protests organized over the last week or so they are apparently more than 700 of these protests and vigils

happening simultaneously right now. many of them outside border patrol and ice facilities. these protests and vigils are against the trump administration's treatment of immigrants, especially following the several weeks that we have had of raw and disturbing accounts of the conditions in which the trump administration is holding people, including little kid who is are being kept apart from their families. we expect one of these lights for liberty protests to get under way in the next hour in yuma, arizona outside this yuma border patrol station. we have been reporting on this station since nbc news obtained a bunch of significant incident reports describing abuse of kids being held apart from the border patrol stations. they announced an investigation had been opened into one claim that nbc obtained from a 15-year-old girl, claiming she had been sexually assaulted by a

uniformed officer at the border patrol station as far as we can from the paperwork that nbc obtained, that girl's claim that she was exu sexually assaulted as far as we can from the written material obtained by nbc news that, girl's allegation was not investigated by any agency until nbc news obtained that report and started asking the federal government questions one of these lights for liberty protests is scheduled for the yuma border patrol facility tonight. late tonight we got a searing pool report. you know how pool reporting works in terms of the presidential and vice presidential visits. a pool reporter will be assigned to be the reporter of record when all the reporters can't go at once on the visit or on the event. that's being described

the pool report we got tonight that is making such waive waves going viral and changing the conversation comes from the border station in allen, texas mike pence was in mcallen, texas. and the pool reporter assigned to be traveling with the vice president, in this case was josh dausy from "the washington post." he was assigned the possibility to be the poll reporter writing up what happened and what the vice president does and saw. this is the pool reporter that josh just filed. after negotiating with the vice president's office, pool was taken into an outdoor portal around 5:00 where almost 400 men were in caged fences with no cots the stench was horrendous. the cages were stow crowded that it would have been impossible for all of the men to lie on the

concrete there were 384 single men who allegedly crossed border illegally. some were sleeping on concrete when the mensah the press arrive, they began shouting and wanted to tell us they have been there 40 days or longer. they said they were hungry and wanted to brush their teeth. it was sweltering hot. agency were guarding the cages wearing face masks we were pulled out within 90 seconds and they said the secret service expressed opposition to the vice president going in. the vice president briefly went into the room. pence said later at a news conference, i was not surprised by what i saw. i knew we would see a system that was overcrowded it should be noted that it's not an organic phenomenon. the reason the 400 men are crowded into that cage is because that's how the trump administration is holding them conditions of confinement are the responsible of the entity confining people by force.

this is what the trump administration is doing on purpose. presumably the reason they sent the vice president there to see it is because they like what they are doing they want you to know this is what they are doing. they think this helps them politically to be seen to be treating immigrants this way in pens. lamented for their smell and how unwashed they are. they are not being allowed to wash themselves and being held in outdoor portals with nothing to lie down on and no way to clean themselves for 40 days at a stretch. trump administration inarguably created this scenario and is maintaining it because they think it works for them politically. now they are showing it off. today the house oversight committee released the report summarizing the information that committee has been able to obtain about the treatment and

mistreatment specifically of kids taken away from their parents by the trump administration and that report includes counts of boys and girls as young as four months old who have been taken from their parents by the trump administration we linked to this report if you want to check it out for yourself among other things, the oversight committee breaks out the story of these individual kids as best as they have been able to trace it there is privacy concerns so they don't name the kids, but they tell their specific stories. for example, a boy they describe as child two an 8-month-old boy taken from his father at the border the father was then moved to multiple facilities away from his 8-month-old son, including other states and the father was ultimately deported without his baby son the report concludes at the time of his release, the baby spent nearly half of his life without his parents in the custody of

the trump administration it is unclear whether the child and father have been reunited. part of the report by the oversight committee. there was a hearing in which jerry connolly of virginia could not contain himself in response to the testimony that committee received about conditions on the border and what the various government inspectors who were testifying could say about whether or not anything would get better >> you can talk all you want about whether the poor border patrol is overwhelmed. that makes no excuse for how we are treating children. if there is one basic value that ought to unite us as americans it is how we treat children! their children, our children it doesn't matter! that's a fundamental value i sat here and listened to

horror stories i thought it would fix it! i thought it was a novel reading from charles dickens the conditions that prevailed 19th century london. children without soap. children in filth. conditions that none of us would ever have with our own children. any child in our care is our children the equivocation, the enabling, the rationalization is inexcusable! is there no limit to what you will justify in this administration >> democratic congressman jerry connolly about the conditions in which immigrants and specifically kids are being held by the trump administration. that hearing, this visit by the vice president to the mcallen border station, this terrifying reporter from the oversight

committee, the protests we are watching unfold around the country is all happening and all royaling and happening amid the backdrop of expectations that the trump administration may launch these new nationwide raids to round up immigrant families starting this weekend the president pounded his chest about that when talking to reporters at the white house and bragged that the raids will be starting on sunday this is the way he wants to run for reelection he rounds up immigrants by the millions amid report that is it will be targeted to big american cities like new york, baltimore, los angeles, san francisco, and others there have already been protests in several cities against the anticipated raids. the mayors directed local police to not cooperate with federal agent fist they try to carry out the raids. mayors in the cities told ice they will not be allowed access to databases to carry out the

raids. the trump administration announced that new orleans would be one of the 10 cities they would prioritize in the raids. they are planning for this weekend. they quickly walked that back once they presumably checked the weather in new orleans as of tonight, tropical storm barry is due to be a hurricane by the time it's expected to make landfall tomorrow depending on the exact track of how barry moves north out of the gulf, new orleans could be looking at crippling, even catastrophic flooding as a result of this storm, depending on how it plays out. this is a main thing they will be watching overnight and through the weekend. as the tropical storm heads towards hurricane force winds, the winds themselves are not necessarily going to be the biggest problem, but the rainfall which could be epic and it will be arriving at a time when the mississippi river is stolen with floodwaters and new orleans is experiencing street

flooding there is a lot of developing stories that we are watching tonight and we will be watching overnight and into the weekend we are already having a lot of news already, but a lot of stuff happening tonight in the news is stuff that is both happening now and expected to develop over 24 to 48 hours and could become more serious over the next day or two or three. this will be a news intensive weekends one of the things is a newly announced delay in the testimony of robert s. mueller who was expected to testify wednesday of next week. just last hour, the chairman of the judiciary and the intelligence committee announced they are postponing mueller's testimony by a week. robert mueller will not testify next wednesday, july 17th, but will now testify on july 24th. the following wednesday, as part of that agreement to delay, the

two committees said they will get more time to question the special counsel in public session. although it remains vague and murky as to what the longer questioning time for mueller has to do with him getting a one-week delay before he testifies, why are those things related? i don't know we will be talking about that this hour, including the related question of whether or not mueller's prosecutors and the people working on mueller's team will be testifying alongside mueller or not we previously thought mueller would testify in open session and the team members and the prosecutors working for him would testify in closed session with the committees. that appears to now also be in flux will have more on that later on. one oth one other story may develop soon it was first broken by axios and confirmed by nbc news.

it did get a pick up once it broke, but i'm highlighting this this is one of the stories that might end up being a much bigger deal when it fully develops. it might develop quickly it's worth seeing it coming. what axios and nbc news report side that president trump may be taking initial steps towards firing the director of national intelligence, dan coates dan coates is one of the people in the president's cabinet that regularly and onlily complains about him all the time dan coates potentially being fired is that the white house is basically floating a trial balloon about who they might want to replace him if in fact trump fires him. according axios, trump wants for his new director of national intelligence, this guy seriously, he wants the author

of the book obamabomb to be the new director according to the reports. his name is fred flights it's okay if you don't remember that name. he did briefly make headlines when trump's newest national security adviser, john bolton tried to bring him on to the national security council for about five minutes the freak out in national security circles was palpable. but now, it was one thing to put this guy in a staff job working for john bolton even if it was a staff job on the national security council, it was an important thing. that caused enough of a freak out, but if the reports are correct that trump is going to now try to put him in the senate-confirmable position with the director of national intelligence that's going to be -- hilarious is not the right word, but this

is going to be something if they try to do this i mean, this is a guy who if they try to make him dni and fire dan codates, he would have to be director of national intelligence from the job he has now. the job he has now is he works as the senior vice president for policy and programs at a think tank that think tank that he runs is the leading proponent of the crack pot theory that the u.s. government is secretly being run by the muslim brotherhood which infiltrated the highest ranks of american government. we just don't know it. he argued we need a house unamerican activity. this time we won't be rooting out pinkos and commies this time it needs to root out the secret muslims operating inside the u.s. government

do you believe that? holding government jobs while also being muslim. that must obviously be stopped this is also a group i should mention that said the oklahoma city bombing was not the work of timothy mcveigh. don't believe what you heard that was a muslim like saddam hussein or some other muslim we are not sure, but it was definitely a muslim and not timothy mcveigh that blew up the federal building in oklahoma city he also made a name for himself on the fox news channel by saying that the intelligence community assessment that interfered in the election, that was his words, rigged. he is not saying that russia tried to rig the election. no, he said when the intelligence community assessed that russia was trying to intervene in the election, that assessment was rigged. because the intelligence

community is rigged because russia was not doing nothing no according to axios and nbc news, trump wants to be making him director of national intelligence these are initial reports, but getting in the way, turn over works at the highest level s including in the cabinet, this could blossom forth at any moment it is worth keeping an eye on that possibility before it happens because it would be an amazing thing for them to try. that would just be a good test of whether or not the u.s. senate lives and breathes if they were confronted with an ask to confirm somebody like that to a job like that. there is always room to move we started out naively about this time about two years ago.

we thought it would be helpful if we can chart and simply show our viewers a list, a simple list of top level abrupt departures from the trump administration start off naive and innocent this was the summer of 2017. we will make a list. within a few months t started to become apparent that the stack of names and titles might be intimidating we tried switching to pictures that. ended up looking like a triple bingo cards you get at a high level church hall bingo like one of the me in bee first time players can't keep up because everybody is playing trip em bingo and nobody can go that fast. we went back to list format. eventually we stopped trying to make them all in one column and we tried moving the camera back to keep the two columns, but they could get taller and you can see more of them we had to pull the camera back that you could see my jeans

under th pulling it back so far then we tried three columns, but we had to make the font so small, people thought it was not real to make it big enough to reed while keeping all the relevant names and titles of all the people departing the trump administration, we went to a whole wall of the studio they put in a monitor the size of a wall. we thought now we bought ourselves enough real estate that might work. turns out that taxed the system and we had blackouts from time to time. oops we tried wrapping around to the other wall that ended up to be folly lies we gave that up, too i am not the only person who tried to track this stuff. this was a good faith effort people are trying to allow people to visualize the

magnitude of turn over in the trump administration earlier today on msnbc, this was a valiant effort picking the top tier doe paepartures and organig them by year i still think it looks like 17 different days that got merged cnn started doing an artful one where they make everybody look like a star. it's like hollywood squares. it's a row of 15 with tom price in the middle! and sparks shooting out of the bottom of john kelly there woo! it's hard to track no married how much time and effort you spend trying to visually organizing the information, it's too much to get your head around even if you just talk about people who had their cabinet level jobs or other super senior jobs, tom price, ryan zinke, rex tillerson.

there was the acting defense secretary guy, patrick shanahan. they were almost secretaries like andy puzder all the press secretaries and communications directors he's gone through and the other senior white house staff and various scandals and blowouts. today when alex acosta became the -- what is it, 11th, 12th, 13th trump cabinet official to resign in disgrace or scandal or extravagant vulgar melodramatic conflict with the president? he was following a well trod path just his job, remember alex acosta only got the job in the first place after trump's first pick for the job, that guy, was derailed by the emergence of the videotape of his wife in a

disguise on the oprah show talking about being battered by her husband. i mean, the worst thing that ever happened involving any non-imprisoned cabinet or would be cabinet official in any presidency would rank by 12th or 13th in terms of potency in the trump cabinet. the scandal that took alex acosta's job is one that is not over his role in securing a lenient non-prosecution agreement for the wealthy and well connected pedophile, jeffrey epstein was wi public knowledge and might have popped in the vetting before trump ever appointed him to a cabinet position in the first place. but that role of alex acosta in signing the non-prosecution agreement for jeffrey epstein apparently only became too much of an embarrassment for the trump administration when

epstein ended up back in court, this time in new york. federal prosecutors in new york told the court in a surprise filing that epstein shouldn't receive bail now that he was arrested again and should be held in custody until he goes on trial in the new sex trafficking charges, he should be kept in custody and not let out because he has been tampering with witnesses and he wired hundreds of thousands of dollars to two of his alleged coconspirators in a way that prosecutors say suggests he might have been trying to tamper with them and keep them from testifying against him. he allegedly sent that $350,000 immediately after the "miami herald" published the bombshell investigative reporting that broke the epstein case back open and resulted in these new charges and resulted in the labor secretary today becoming the nth official to lose his job in scandal

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the "miami herald" published a series called perversion of justice. that investigative reporting at the "miami herald" changed the world. in that series, reporter julie kay brown talked about the effort to get justice by multiple child abuse victims of jeffrey epiteen after a lenient non-prosecutionly got from then u.s. attorney, alex acosta in florida. since those were published, a lot of things have happened. like this week, a new arrest of jeffrey epstein who faces up to 45 years in prison on sex trafficking charges. the u.s. attorney in new york announcing the charges took time to credit some incredible investigative reporting in helping track down epstein in bringing these new charges he was talking about the reporting of julie kay brown after the pressure became too much even for the trump administration on this issue,

the u.s. attorney who had given epstein his non-prosecution deal in florida, today he resigned as trump's u.s. secretary of labor. that inexplicable deal that acosta gave him back in the day was not enough to keep trump from putting him in the cabinet in the first place the pressure now resulted in acosta losing his job. tonight we got a new explosive ligation fr allegation from new york epstein according to prosecutors hired hundreds of thousands of dollars and prosecutors say could be attempts at witness tampering. the prosecutors have notified the court of their belief that those payments could constitute witness tampering to prevent the new york judge overseeing the case from freeing him on bail as he awaits trial. joining us is julie kay brown,

investigative reporter who broke the story open and changed a lot of lives in the process. ms. brown, nice to have you back >> thank you >> let me ask you first of all, your reaction to this latest news federal prosecutors are saying just two days after you published your series, he was wiring hundreds of thousands of dollars to two potential accomplices. what are they intimating in the filing >> prosecutors have a lot more information than we know about i think that factored into the decision of mr. acosta to step down because i think there is a lot more information that's going to come out. they are building a case for quite a while and they know about the wiring of money in the aftermath of my series, they

have possibly even cooperating witnesses or people from epstein's camp who are going to reveal a lot more damning information. >> in terms of what prosecutors allege to the court tonight, among the documents they filed seem to be records from florida and not from new york that indicated that epstein was sort of looked at very seriously for potentially having intimidated witnesses and tried to tamper with witnesses around the time that florida was considering how to adjudicate the claims when acosta was the u.s. attorney do you know if witness tampering or obstruction of justice were considered against epstein in 2007 and 2008 when he was facing the charges? >> yes they were not only considered, but there was a couple of draft plea agreements that were done early on in the case where they were going to charge him with witness tampering. that was one of the things they

considered as a result in part, some of the victims who were as we know teenagers were followed and their families were followed and one woman reported that her father was run off the road. this was happening in florida in 2007 when they were investigating this you know, he tried to intimidate a lot of people, including the police, including prosecutors. he dug up dirt on everybody he could. this is part and parcel of his method of operation. to wield his power and influence in order to scare people from cooperating and from going forward with prosecutions. >> because of that record and so much of it we know because of what you have been able to document about how his case was handled in florida, because that was record i'm struck by what you said earlier that there may be new cooperating witnesses who may be able to work with

prosecutors and police and the fbi in terms of building the case and prosecuting the new charges against epstein. that's obviously been a real point of contention and how he escaped a measure of justice all this way there haven't been people who have been willing to cooperate with prosecutors against him do you think that might be changing now >> well, if these people -- he didn't do this alleged trafficking operation all by himself. he had a whole crew of people helping him, schedulers and recruiters and pilots and drivers. so, you know, it's always been a question of why accoosta and the fbi back then didn't try to get some of these people to cooperate. you know, they did all lawyer up and epstein paid for some of their lawyers, but at some point they would have been able to do that now i think what new york is trying to do is revealing new

evidence that is focused with epstein with the non-prosecution agreement in florida and anything he did in florida can't be prosecuted. so new york prosecutors are likely trying to get information on his crimes, possible crime he's did in new york >> julie, i have to ask you one last question while i have you here i talked to you about this story over the months as you were breaking this. i think it changed the world right now it's changing national politics, too. how do you feel in the middle of all of this having done all of this work and made all of this contact with his alleged vehiics and how it feels to have the impact it's having now after all the work you put into it >> you know, i always say that the real heros in this story are

the victims that were willing to come out they were very scared to talk. this is a man that has a lot of power and it happened a long time ago these women moved on with their lives. for them to share their stories with me was just an incredible honor and you know, i'm happy for them they contacted me frequently and they are just shocked that it has really made a difference and that something might be done for justice that they have been fighting for so long. >> "miami herald's" julie kay brown. that got a lot of demands on your time. thank you very much for helping us understand. >> a lot more to get to this busy friday night. stay with us

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a state of limbo we have an answer. nadler and adam schiff announcing that mueller's testimony has indeed been pushed back a week. instead of having it the 17th, it will happen the 24th, a week from wednesday he said we are pleased to announce that special counsel mueller will provide additional testimony when he appears before the committees he was originally scheduled to testify for two hours in front of each committee. now it's three hours in front of each committee, not two. why is there any connection between the whole thing getting delayed a week and the committees getting an extra hour with mueller no idea, but that's what's happening. certain questions including whether the deputies will be testifying as well the subpoena was first announce

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>> there was some what appeared to be bad news as a federal appeals court for the first time waded into the efforts for the democratic controlled house to get stuff from an about the president by subpoena. there have been all these subpoenas and nothing in response to the subpoenas. today it went to a federal appeals court for the first time today's fight was over financial records related to the president held by his accounting firm, lazar's. after the president's long time lawyer, michael cohen testified under oath those records might show evidence of the president committing bank and insurance

fraud. the house heard that from michael cohen, subpoenaed the roars and the president sued to keep them from complying with the subpoena a federal judge ruled that the subpoena was valid and they needed to hand over the records to congress. the president appeal and that brought us to today. the u.s. circuit court of appeals in d.c. where we got to hear, not read, but hear president trump's new personal lawyer maces hking his case thae shouldn't hand over the records. the argument was astonishing the case he is making to one level below the supreme court is that congress can't get the materials because they have no power to oversee the president they have no power to access any information that would allow them to oversee the behavior of the president. you can hear the incred

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court, basically asking the president's lawyer, are you seriously arguing what i think you are arguing? >> i'm sorry, i'm trying to understand your argument is your argument that the committee on oversight has not been given any power of oversight as to the office of president. that's one, or is it that they not be given subpoena power? i can't even look. they can't ask questions or can't look >> i would have the power to object -- >> under your theory of the rule, absent this clear statement, there is no oversight authority at all that has been concerned or invoked by congress >> so, yes >> the answer is yes

congress can do no oversight it's good to have the tape or you wouldn't get to hear that the judge laughs in the middle of her restating this argument to the president's lawyer. they never put judge laughs in the transcript, but you can clearly hear her laugh in the middle in this case today over whether the president's accounting firm has to hand over the records in response to a subpoena from congress, it seems like the president's lawyer is arguing that congress can't get those records because congress is not allowed to oversee anything that relates to a president even if hypothetically the president is super, super corrupt, congress can't oversee. here's the same judge again. >> imagine you have in the future the most corrupt president known to human kind, open, flaunting doing it what law could congress pass >> i think it's very difficult --

>> you can't think of one. >> that sounds extreme that was today in the appeals court in d.c joining us to discuss the oral arguments is senior legal affairs upon contributor at politico who was there today thanks for making time to be here >> sure, rachel. good to see you. >> it's good to be able to hear it happen instead of me reading it and trying to get the inflection right i feel like we get more color in terms of the tone from sitting in the courtroom it seems like from your reportering. the arguments didn't go well for the white house and did go well for congress >> it was about an hour or hour and 15 minutes straight that the trump attorney was being grilled by at least two of the judges on the panel. judge david taylor was the other democratic appointee on the panel who said well, what laws

could congress abide the president? he said maybe his records a little bit he pointed out all presidents file financial disclosure forms. surely that is constitutional. he was having none of it he said he wouldn't agree that that was constitutional. i think at that point he basically lost at least two thirds of the panel. he began to wonder if the arguments were not being teed up for the supreme court. i didn't think it was a winning case it was a maximalist federalist society position to fly at the d.c. circuit >> in terms of teeing it up and taking that maximalist position, is that something that is aimed correctly at the supreme court is there reasonable belief among the president's lawyers that this supreme court is constitute and might like this argument and might not read it as

incredulously as the two judges on the panel did >> it's definitely a possibility given the make up of the supreme court at the moment. it will probably ride as it has in the last year or two on chief justice john roberts the tension here in the trump administration argument is they have been going to courts like the supreme court saying when we do something controversial, don't look behind the curtain at all. look at what we say publicly as our reason for doing this. now they take the flip side when it comes to congress and they say congress said they are doing it for legislative reasons and we want you to pull the curtain back and nancy pelosi said she would like to see the president in jail. i think it's going to be difficult to move from those arguments on a trump-related case to the arguments they made previously in other disputes probably even in the supreme court they may have difficulty getting track with that. >> josh, on the substance of

this, there is a subpoena and a similar subpoena that was given to deutsche bank to try to get banking records from the president and both of those subpoenas the president brought lawsuits to block the institutions from complying with them in the lower courts where the president lost both times, there was a lot of discussion about the need for speed here. about how congress wanted to move with some alacrity and didn't want unnecessary delay. in terms of the substance and whether or not congress will get these records, what time frame do you envision this being resolved >> it's possible this could be resolved within a matter of months now i think the appeals court panels made it clear they want to move expeditiously on this. we could see decisions in a matter of weeks. there is other processes that could play out like trying to go to the full bench and whether the supreme court wants to wait in the president can't force them

to do that there is always a chance because it's a highly politicized dispute that maybe they decide they don't want to get into it, particularly if it hits them over the summertime while most of the justices are out of town. there is a chance they might decide they are not interested in delving in. >> in this case it wouldn't go above the level it is now. if the supreme court decides not review it. >> that's right. >> josh, i didn't mean to step on you there i appreciate your reporting at politico.com appreciate you being here. stay with usfu ie dough ninja. applame speed to the ford hurry up and save sales event. for the first time ever get 20% estimated savings on select ford it all adds up. don't you love math? so get here asap because tasty deals and summer go fast. get in or lose out

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>> overnight tonight, we will be watching tropical storm barry churning in the gulf right now and heading for louisiana. predicting the storm will make landfall over the central louisiana coast early tomorrow morning as a cat one hurricane they expect it to weaken, but rain is the biggest threat forecasters say the storm will sit over that already water logged region for days once again, the country is praying for new orleans and competence in the disaster response if the worst comes to pass we don't know what the next 24 hours will bring, but we will be monitoring the storm all weekend. that does it for now see you again on monday.