west. here's what's happening. big apple blackout. why the lights went out and how people coped in the dark. coastal communities under water, cut off by flooding. how the threat from tropical storm barry is far from over. [ crowd chanting ] and outrage over immigration raids. the latest on i.c.e. plans in cities across the country. plus, what's worse, republicans bashing trump behind his back but not confronting him publicly, or the rift between the house speaker and the squad? answers ahead. we're starting with the very latest from a gulf coast tropical storm barry, downgraded from hurricane strength but still packing a pretty big punch with 45-mile-an-hour winds, drges storm surge and flash flooding remains serious threats in louisiana with a total of about 8 to 15 inches of rain expected. flash floods pressing the coast guard into rescue service southwest of new orleans

yesterday. they used some helicopter to pluck 12 people and 2 pets to safety. and overtopping levees near m t murtle grove and plaquemines parish stranded some who disobeyed evacuation orders. >> we decided to stay and we knew there was a possibility of losing all our utilities. >> i have four dogs and one cat, which is very hard to leave. >> trees and power lines were down in new orleans, but the city was mostly spared from taking a direct hit. got more reason to celebrate there on the streets of the big easy. ♪ staying dry in that parade there. let's bring in meteorologist bill karins. bill, what's the latest on this storm? >> the bottom line that's it shifted further west overnight than was expected. we always knew there'd be one narrow band of heavy rain. we was thinking that would be near the baton rouge area overnight. instead, that's been a little further west, so the trouble's

been more toward lafayette, louisiana, who is in this bright yellow band right here. they just picked up an inch of rain in the last two hours. it's still pouring right now and that band's not going to move much, so that's where the greatest risk of flash flooding is, in areas to the west of the baton rouge area. so if you're waking up in baton rouge, you're not out of the woods. you could still get some heavy bands of rain during the day today, but 10 to 20 inches is looking unlikely in that area. if we're going to get the epic rainfall, historic totals, it would be with this band during the day today that's now set up here in areas of southwest louisiana. so, 45-mile-per-hour winds. the storm is almost in texas. that wasn't supposed to happen. it was supposed to be over top of alexandria, so this jog to the west is what changed that forecast. it's also pulled a lot of the heavy rain out of biloxi and mobile, where you got nailed yesterday. new orleans just had some light rain. the forecast from the hurricane center, they're going to take this down to a depression as we go throughout the morning, so the winds have really come down. we're not seeing any more wind damage problems whatsoever. so, it will be a tropical depression and then just rain itself out over top of arkansas

late tonight and all day monday. so, here's the map that is of concern. this has been the big concern the entire time. this is the flood risk map. the areas of blue is a slight risk of flash flooding, could get some training of some storms. the area of red means there's a moderate risk of flash flooding. then the pink color is the high risk, and that's where we think there's life-threatening flash flooding possible in the next 24 hours. that's from alexandria down to areas just to -- everywhere west of baton rouge, including the lafayette region i just showed you. so, here's the flash flood map. we only have one flash flood warning. i thought when i came in this morning we'd see the bright red colors all over south-central louisiana. you really lucked out. the area of high risk yesterday hasn't seen any significant flash flooding, so that's fantastic. of course, we'll wait and see whether that band near lafayette begins to produce flash flooding. we're at risk up to paducah, even southern illinois. one of our more reliable computer models is the european model. this is the additional rainfall to come.

that's pinpointing that band i was talking about towards lafayette. the possibility of 5 to 10 inches of rainfall in the next 24 hours in that band. and then tonight into tomorrow, the heavy rain shifts to the north, little rock to memphis to greenville. we still have the chance of getting around 3 to 6 inches of rainfall in that region. so, here's how it's going to play out. this is right now at 7:00 a.m. this morning, and then as we go throughout the day, the storm drifts up towards shreveport. there's that heavy band of rain still over the top of lafayette. so, that's 12 hours from now showing the possibilities of that heavy rainfall in areas of lafayette, northwards up here to the mississippi/louisiana border. that's why we still have the concern of significant flash flooding. then overnight and tomorrow morning we wake up, heavy rain from greenville, mississippi, to liver rock, possibly over towards memphis. so, we're not done yet. so far, so good for many reasons, but we'll wait and see what that heavy band of rain does during the day today. >> all right, bill karins. thanks so much. joining us now from plaquemines parish, louisiana, is nbc's

mariana atencio. mariana, bill's been talking about the flooding there. what's the damage been like? >> reporter: so, jo, the main concern with the flooding here in plaquemines parish is because the area sits between two bodies of water -- the mississippi river is to my left, just to give you an idea -- that the only highway, highway 23 here behind me -- the only way in and out of this area was going to get flooded. so, you can just imagine what that would have meant for the 24,000 residents who live in this area. but as you've been reporting today, and we just heard from bill karins, the worst did not materialize. a lot of areas here did not suffer significant damage. by the time the storm hit as a category 1 west of where i am in morgan city, a lot of people had sheltered in place or had evacuated. that being said, two levees here breached. there was overtopping because of the flooding, because of the storm surge, and that's why you have this scene behind me here

this morning, sandbagging efforts that were under way late last evening into this morning. i spoke with a lieutenant with the national guard who told me these sandbags, jo, are going to be air-lifted this morning to try to patch together some of these levees. we're also hearing that the governor of louisiana will be making the rounds, weather-permitting, of course. and as we just heard from bill, the rain is still going to continue, possibly 6 inches in some of these areas, but i do have to say that a lot of people breathing a sigh of relief. and just fact that people can start going back to their homes on this highway today is, i'd say one of the best-case scenarios here for the southeastern part of louisiana, plaquemines parish specifically. jo? >> all right, mariana atencio. best-case scenario, we'll take it. thanks so much. also new this morning, the lights are now back on in times square, but it was a very different picture just hours ago. a historic power outage crippling the heart of manhattan, affecting 73,000

customers for more than three hours along a 30-block stretch. those huge electronic screens and bright lights on broadway all turned black before 7:00 p.m. eastern. theater-goers pouring out onto the streets. traffic lights were out. there roads, but some good samaritans stepped in to help direct traffic. the city's subway lines were also brought to a near halt with riders navigating through the dark. the outage even shut down a jennifer lopez concert at madison square garden. ♪ in true new york fashion, broadway performers brought the performance onto the streets. the cast of "come from away" was one of several giving impromptu performances outside their theaters. nbc's kendis gibson captured probably the best moment of the night when the power came back on outside our nbc studios just before 11:00 p.m. eastern. >> speaking of those people here

in manhattan, kendis, i know you were there when there was still natural light outside -- >> reporter: whoa! >> oh, did it just happen? the lights just came on behind you! let's go back to kendis. look at that! that looks like that was the final grid they were working to restore. kendis, is the marquee lit up? >> reporter: it is back on! the marquee's back on. >> msnbc's chris pollone is live in new york city. kendis was excited. we're all glad the power's back on, but what really caused this? >> reporter: yeah, that was a crazy few hours. that was a great moment there. and that's the question, jo lyng, that city and state leaders are asking themselves this morning, exactly why did this happen? the local power company over manhattan, over new york city, con edison, initially blamed this on an equipment failure, but a full investigation is under way this morning to figure out exactly why that equipment failed, plunging a great swath of the west side of manhattan into darkness.

as you mentioned, this happened shortly before 7:00 p.m. last night on a busy saturday night in one of the busiest parts of manhattan, the west side stretching all the way from madison square gard madison square garden up through times square, up past columbus circle. more than 70,000 customers in all lost power. that doesn't sound like a lot, but that's buildings and businesses, so we're talking about thousands who lost power. as usual, new yorkers took everything in stride, some directing traffic themselves, as you mentioned. others had to find their ways out of hot, cramped, dark subway stations with no escalators or elevators to help them. the nypd says about 250 police officers were sent to the area, but so far, no reports of injuries or deaths. the outage, again, is being blamed on equipment failure, but it could take hours or days to determine exactly what went wrong. the governor of new york called the widespread outage and how long it lasted unacceptable. >> just can't have a power

outage of this magnitude in this city. it is too dangerous. the potential for public safety risk and chaos is too high. we just can't have a system that does this. it's that simple. at the end of the day. and that's what we're going to work on. >> reporter: jo ling, we'll be keeping a close eye on see if an exact cause is determined sometime later today. a lot of people were quick to point out last night, a very strange coincidence. that power outage happened on exactly the 42nd anniversary, almost to the hour, of one of the most infamous and widespread power outages in new york city that happened back in 1977. that one was far worse than what we experienced last night, but it was sure a strange night on the west side of manhattan. >> chris, are we ready for a blackout that has more of a sustained effect that would last longer in a major american city? >> reporter: yeah, that's the question.

i mean, a lot of people have talked about the power grid being vulnerable, aging. that was some of the comment last night of this was an equipment failure. they were able to identify it, but it took out six full neighborhoods that con edison services from that one area. it took nearly five hours to get everything back on. it's a discussion that's going to be had here in new york city and across the country, just about how vulnerable is the power system, how long should something like that last, should it even happen, can they build redundancies into the system so that it doesn't happen again. >> all right, chris pollone, thanks so much. the i.c.e. raids threat. why the president is bringing public attention to them and how this plays into his re-election bid. ction bid. uh-oh, looks like someone's still nervous about buying a new house. is it that obvious? yes it is. you know, maybe you'd worry less if you got geico to help with your homeowners insurance. i didn't know geico could helps with homeowners insurance.

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new today, mass arrests of undocumented family members across the country are expected to begin this morning. the targets, at least 2,000 people with deportation orders. but those who happen to be nearby could also be affected. and new reporting today on attempted i.c.e. raids yesterday in new york is from the "wall street journal." they're expanding on what the new york city mayor first posted on twitter. a person familiar with the matter is telling the "journal" that i.c.e. agents went to homes in harlem and sunset park. the agents were, quote, rejected by people at the residences because they didn't have warrants but plan to return at

least to sunset park tomorrow. these are some of the questions undocumented families are facing right now -- who would take care of their kids if parents get deported? should parents go to work and risk getting arrested if they're detained? could they afford a lawyer? activists across the country have mobilized to remind undocumented immigrants of their rights, specifically, i.c.e. agents need a search warrant signed by a judge in order to enter a home. some other advice -- do not lie to law enforcement, and remember, you've got the right to remain silent. meanwhile, after vice president pence toured detention centers in texas and tried to defend the conditions he saw, congressional democrats are touring some of those facilities themselves. here's what congressman jim mcgovern saw. >> translator: we haven't taken a shower for 22 days. [ speaking foreign language ]

>> over 40 days. no showers, no meals. >> joining me now, julia manchester, reporter for "the hill" and kevin cirilli with bloomberg news. a former i.c.e. chief who warninged for the department of homeland security from 2009 to 2014 is saying the president's raid announcement is, quote, inexcusable, suggesting trump did it only for political gain. so, what's your assessment here as to why the president is publicizing this? >> well, president trump has said for a long time now that this is a policy that his administration has adopted. and two things. first and foremost, when i talked to staffers at the various agencies, including i.c.e., they suggest that part of the messaging here is the deterrent strategy, and that by announcing these types of raids, they're hopeful that the message will get down south of the border to deter folks from continuing to emigrate here

illegally. that said, obviously, there are various concerns. you're seeing immigration activists activate various networks. you're seeing the concerns play out in realtime. and when i talk to folks and sources up on capitol hill, particularly on the issue of these detention centers, this has really gripped the national attention, and there seems to be an urgency and a palpable frustration about why congress and the president have not been able to come up with any type of deal. and quite frankly, i'll be really blunt here, i don't so a short-term deal on the horizon at all. >> so julia, what's this mean politically here? could this reflect badly on both sides? >> yeah, it absolutely reflects badly on both sides, because to kevin's point, they haven't been able to come to any sort of deal in congress. however, going forward ahead of 2020, expect democrats running for president to go on the offensive on this against president trump. and we've even seen 2020

democrats visit many of these detention facilities, meet with migrants in these facilities and really meet with immigration activists as well. we're seeing immigration activists play a really increasing role on the 2020 campaign trail and really pressuring a lot of these democratic presidential hopefuls to really address this issue. however, politically for president trump, i don't think this changes necessarily anything with his political base. he has fed his base this narrative that there is truly a crisis on the border and that it needs to be controlled. and i don't know if his base necessarily buys into, i think, the issues at these detention facilities. i think they blame a lot of that on the liberal mainstream media and such and try to say that, you know, this is more of the democrats in congress fault. so, it's very much a blame game on both sides. >> i also want to talk about some foreign policy here. new revelations from leaked diplomatic cables. according to the "daily mail," the british ambassador to the us

wrote that president trump abandoned the iran nuclear deal to spite barack obama. nbc has not independently confirmed that report. so, kevin, how much did trump's attitude towards obama play an actual role in his decision to scrap the iran deal? >> my reporting hasn't led me to that conclusion at all. i think that the president campaigned on this. he campaigned on withdrawing from the iran nuclear disarmament deal or the jcpoa. and look, there were many, many folks, including stauch supporters of israel, that had various concerns about the jcpoa. there were democrats even at the time, a small portion of democrats, who raised concerns about the iran nuclear disarmament deal. but here we are. the president deciding to withdraw from the iran disarmament nuclear deal. this has sparked a partisan divide in terms of what to do forward. no one is saying, by the way, that tehran should have a nuclear weapon. the political discussion is about just how, how to keep tehran from getting a nuclear

weapon. and i think the democrats are saying that the various flare-ups that we've seen from tehran as a result of the u.s. and president trump withdrawing from the deal, and republicans are saying that it's a tehran temper tantrum, for lack of a better word, because of their sanctions crippling the economy in tehran for so long. the bottom line -- the bottom line is that when you get to the democratic presidential debate stage, with the exception of tulsi gabbard, virtually everyone is saying up there that tehran ought not to have nuclear weapons and that there needs to be some type of an approach to maintain that. >> julia, the former u.s. ambassador to canada, bruce haiman, is doubling down on this criticism, calling it the most accurate assessment of trump's action with the iran agreement. what do you think here? i mean, what are the risks of having this sort of assessment from u.s. allies spilling out into the public? i know that kevin's reporting is indicating otherwise, but what do you see in terms of these internal politics? >> yeah in terms of the

international players really commenting on this -- i mean, obviously it was a huge diplomatic leak that these correspondences between the british ambassador and his colleagues really came out, and that caused quite a bit of controversy. but i think it's no surprise our international allies, such as the uk and canada, really believed that president trump was doing a disservice by pulling the u.s. out of the iran nuclear deal. remember, the obama administration, you know, spent months brokering this deal and they considered it one of the prime international, i guess victories of the obama administration, reaching this deal. but yes, president trump campaigned for years on withdrawing from the iran nuclear deal. i think the issue right now is that, you know, i don't think any republicans, obviously, want to jump back in, and i think you're going to see democrats, especially on that debate stage, try to navigate how to move forward in terms of dealing with iran in the future, because clearly, you know, relations

have really gone south under the trump administration. rhetoric has risen on both sides. and i think it will be a path moving forward in terms of how to recover and how to, you know, get into a somewhat better place. >> kevin, i wonder, how do these leaks actually impact the president and his thinking? >> well, the leaks are saying that it was a personal decision somehow for president trump and that he didn't like barack obama, and that's why he did that. but i mean, quickly, i would just reiterate that he campaigned on withdrawing from the iran nuclear disarmament deal. and beyond that, iran, by the way, just within the last couple of weeks, increased their uranium enrichment, surpassing levels of uranium that they were qualified to be able to accept, even when they were in the iran nuclear disarmament deal. but the democratic point is a valid one in the sense that even though the u.s. has withdrawn from the jcpoa, europe is still trying to hold it together, and that's a broader discussion about when the president

withdraws from international agreements and allies of the united states continue to operate within those agreements, is that the type of place that the u.s. wants to play on the international stage? democrats are saying, absolutely not. we need to work with allies and have these agreements. and the president, as we know, whether it's trade, whether it's foreign policy, says he would rather prefer a one-off, so to speak, in terms of the u.s. and these agreements. >> kevin cirilli, julia manchester, thanks for your fantastic reporting. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. always a pleasure. what's worse in the world of party politics, the president versus house republicans or nancy pelosi versus the squad? some answers ahead. or nancy pelosi versus the squad? some answers ahead ♪ when you have diabetes, dietary choices are crucial to help manage blood sugar,

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the feud between democratic congressional leaders and progressive democrats appears to be escalating. one part of the rift includes the justice democrats, which helped congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez get elected, right? and members of the congressional black caucus are accusing some justice democrats of trying to oust lawmakers of color. and just yesterday, congresswoman ayanna pressley, a member of the self-described squad had this message about those wanting to run for congress.

>> if you are not prepared to come to that table and to represent that voice, don't come, because we don't need any more brown faces that don't want to be a brown voice. we don't need black faces that don't want to be a black voice! we don't need muslims that don't want to be a muslim voice! we don't need queers that don't want to be a queer voice! and if you're worried about being marginalized and stereotyped, please don't even show up, because we need you to represent that voice! >> joining me now is congressman gregory meeks, a democrat from new york and a member of the congressional black caucus. thank you for being here today. >> good to be with you. >> when you hear those remarks, what's your gut reaction? >> my gut reaction is that we need people to represent their districts, you know? i think that we have come a long way as a country. when i think of the congressional black caucus, for example. once upon a time, the thought was that in order for a member

of the cdc or an african-american to get elected, he'd have to come from a district that was 60%-70% african-american. but i look at the fact now, the last freshman class, there were nine new members of the congressional black caucus, but eight of them come from districts that had less than 30% african-americans. and so, we need individuals that are going to come and represent their districts so that we are in the majority so that we can have the chairmanships and the speaker moving forward an issue, because that's what's important. it's important -- you know, i think that we are better off as a country with a maxine waters as chairwoman of the financial services committee, with a jerry nadler as chair of judiciary, with a richard neil -- you know, all of the things these committees are doing now of people not in the majority, because of a broad section of folks with different ideas and different thoughts. we would be in worse shape than we are now. >> congresswoman presley actually denied that she was targeting black leadership in that quote that we just heard,

and her spokeswoman was saying that she was trying to make the point that diversity at the table doesn't matter if there's not real diversity in policy. do you agree with that? >> well, you know what, i think that congresswoman pressley is a very articulate and very smart woman who can add a lot to us in congress, you know. i know she used to work for senator john kerry. she was a former member of the city council, so she knows. and so, i take her at her word. i do think that there needs to be diversity across the board. i just passed a bill on the financial services committee talking about diversity in corporate america, you know, financial institutions. that passed. so, do we need the voice of diversity at the table? absolutely we need the voice of diversity. that's what makes us strong. that's why we're strong in the democratic party because we are not the republican party that is monolithic with only one voice. with the democratic party, with many voices, and all of those voices need to be heard and we can work together to get that done. >> certainly a lot of voices at

the table. "the new york daily news" asked you whether the democratic party would consider challenging progressive members next year, and you responded, "primaries go two ways -- if someone picks a fight with somebody else, you fight back. that's what my parents told me. if you get in the ring, expect that people are going to start throwing punches." so, was that a threat? do you fear that this internal clash is going to hurt the overall success of your party? >> no, that's not a threat. what it is is i'm saying that if, in fact -- and most of the social democrats or the justice democrats, they say they're going to primary this one or primary that one. that's their right to do. this is a democracy. that's what why this country is great. but don't think that people are going to sit back and do nothing and just say, okay. they'll fight back. and that's just the way it is. so, i believe, though, that we're going to sit down and we'll have dialogue and conversation and try to work together, because the one objective that i think that we all have, in the time in which we currently live, is to make

sure that donald trump doesn't get another four years, is to make sure that we maintain and grow our majority in the united states house of representatives and also to make sure that we regain the majority in the senate if we want to move forward and stop the kind of, what i think, repressive government that donald trump represents. >> do you think that this squad or the justice democrats are actually hurting that cause for the democrats to come together to defeat trump in 2020? >> well, here's what i think. i think that we can't have the kinds of tweets that went out by a chief of staff that's calling other members of the democratic caucus segregationists. i think that's bad. that doesn't help because we need those individuals. number one, they're not segregationists. i know them. i work with them. and they have tried to move forward. they had their own ideas, so they're not. that is wrong to do. that's not the right thing to do, so i can't be silent on that. that doesn't help. so, but, overall, i think that if we talk about the ideas in

totality, getting some from here, getting some from there. so, i work with progressives. i work with blue dogs. i'm a new dem myself. i work with all of them. and so, working together, we can move forward. we can move progressively forward, if you will, as i think we have. we have done that as a nation, as a country. we need to continue to do that. >> i want to talk about something that's really gripping the national conversation right now, the i.c.e. raids. and they're expected to take place starting today. and reportedly, i.c.e. agents yesterday tried to arrest some people in sunset park, which is not far from your district in queens. so, what are you hearing from your constituents right now? >> quite frankly, a number of them are scared. and so, but what we're trying to do is inform them what their rights are, not to let anyone in unless they have a warrant that's been issued by a judge, and ask to see that warrant. have them slide it under the door. don't open that door. don't lie to them. that's important. so, what we're telling them is to be cautious in that regard. we're giving them what their rights are. but i think that, you know, we

should focus on as a nation is there should be better resources, you know, better way to utilize the resources that the president is using for these so-called raids to try to intimidate folks. >> well, that's something i want to ask you about, the $4.6 billion that congress approved. how do you make sure that the administration is using these funds properly? >> well, it's difficult. and you know, there's no question about that. >> yeah. >> and i think that, you know, as i said previously, it was a hard vote for me. i ended up voting no on that bill, but it was a hard vote, because you do have children and women and men that are in facilities that are inhumane and do not have soap and deodorant, et cetera. and you have a president who, to me, is not a president who acts in a humane fashion. he acts in a more authoritarian fashion. and so, he's trying to utilize this authoritarian figure of his to show that this is what he can do, which is cruelty to people,

similar to what kim jong-un had been doing to his own people, something akin to what vladimir putin does in russia. and i think that's the guy that we have as president right now, and we want to fight that. >> just to clarify, you're comparing president trump to kim jong-un and putin? >> what i'm saying is, yes, he wants to be authoritarian like him. he does utilize ways -- or tries to utilize ways to get around congress. we just had a decision by the supreme court of the united states, and he's trying to get around that decision, or he tried to. so, he's trying to be, and he likes to be -- that's who his friends are, the royal leader of saudi arabia, you know. he wants to talk to putin. he talks good things about kim jong-un. so, that's who he is. i mean, i don't think there's any question about that. >> well, congressman meeks, always good to have you. great conversation. i really appreciate your time. thanks for being here this morning. >> my pleasure. good to be with you. back now to the latest storm, the tropical storm barry, as bodies of water overrun the streets of louisiana. after barry was downgraded

yesterday from a category 1 hurricane, thousands along the coast are still facing those mandatory evacuations, and that storm is slowly moving inland. authorities now say that thousands in the state are under mandatory evacuation after the water overtopped some levees. and workers are saying that containing the levees is a difficult task. listen to this. >> the water's actually coming in over the levees in a couple spots, and we've got crews down there to try to stop it, and hopefully, that works. but you know, the wind blowing from the south, and we've been working around the clock. the most we can do right now is just flood fight. and you know, the more -- if we can keep the water out in the sections where we have the levees, then we've done our job. >> strong winds and heavy rainfall taking down large trees and power lines, knocking out electricity for thousands of folks in the region. and wind speeds have neared 65 miles an hour, also tearing some roofs off of houses. let's bring in meteorologist

bill karins. you said the storm is moving northward. is it still moving pretty slow, still dangerous here? >> it's still dangerous because it's moving slow enough to produce some epic amounts of rain. when it's heading in one direction, pretty much north, it's able to drag the rain over the same areas for multiple hours. that's where we get the flash flooding concerns. we do have some other issues, too. we do have a tornado warning just to the north here of the hattiesburg area in mississippi, so we could even get isolated tornadoes today. the fear all along was what's going to happen when we get a really heavy rain band sitting over the same areas? yesterday we were thinking somewhere around the baton rouge area could get that. instead, it has shifted further west than was expected, and so, the heavy rain band, instead of being over the top of baton rouge, is right over top of lafayette, louisiana, and they're in a pretty epic rain band with winds gusting up to 40 miles an hour, and that's going to continue for this morning. so that's a great concern in what happens there. the path does take it to the north and just weakens it eventually into areas of southern missouri. it's become a tropical depression later on today. it's really, the winds aren't doing any damage anymore anyway.

it's really just a rain forecast. and we have jackson, mississippi, under a flash flood warning. and now we add this area of southern mississippi from hattiesburg, too. so now we're starting to see the rainfall problems add up and cause some issues here. flash flood watches from southern illinois down to louisiana. and here's kind of a close-up view of the radar, and you can see the heaviest rain here around the lafayette area and then there is that really hefty band of rain that goes just from the outside of new orleans all the way north into central portions of mississippi. so, as far as what we're going to deal with today, the weather service is saying once again, just like yesterday, a high risk of flash flooding, and that's most of the greatest concern is this area from alexandria, louisiana, to lafayette. if we're going to get really epic, life-threatening flash flooding, that's most likely where it will happen today. >> all right, bill karins. thank you so much. we're going to talk to a fema official in just a few minutes on the latest on dealing with barry's aftermath and what's going on right now. we also want to bring you maureen dowd's latest column, calling it "scaling wokeback mountain." we'll talk about nancy pelosi's trouble with the squad, next. trouble with the squad, next

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now to both parties wrestling with divisions today. republicans roiled by the "washington post" excerpts from a new book that has former house speaker paul ryan slamming president trump. and democrats taking sides in the growing dispute between house speaker nancy pelosi and the squad. let's bring in bishop garrison, co-founder of the joseph raney

center for public policy, and republican strategist brian darling, founder and president of liberty government affairs. let's start with paul ryan coming clean with how he really feels about president trump. the "washington post" says the book reveals the former speaker could not stand the idea of two more years alongside the president, and he is now saying, "don't call a woman a horseface, don't cheat on your wife, don't cheat on anything, be a good person, set a good example." so, is this part of a pattern of republicans hiding their real thoughts about president trump when they're working with him? >> well, pretty clearly, paul ryan and president trump did not see eye to eye in politics. they definitely have different tones in the way they speak. they have different policies in many senses. i think paul ryan comes from a different faction of the republican party. but i do think that president trump was right in one sense. i think he was right in the sense of his disappointment with congress. when congress came in and president trump was sworn in, he

wanted a bold agenda. and one thing he didn't want was republicans to keep their promise to repeal obamacare. that never happened. he wanted the congress to pass very bold tax cuts. and although the tax cuts were pretty big, i think president trump had promoted an even bigger tax cut when he ran for president. so, i see where the president was disappointed and expressed his frustration, maybe in an over-the-top manner. but clearly, paul ryan and president trump did not see eye to eye on many political issues, and that is flaring up right now. >> well, bishop, paul ryan is also, apparently, defending working with the president, saying, "those of us around him really helped stop him from making bad decisions all the time," he says. he says, "we helped him make much better decisions." so, why do you think we're hearing this right now? i mean, is this really about personal reputation? is he trying to send a broader message? >> well, sure. if the former speaker helped the

president make better decisions, i think he was an abject failure, to be quite honest. as you see the decisions that have come out of this administration have been nothing but horrific. when you talk about everything from the tax bill to the efforts to take away aca to getting out of the iran deal to now the humanitarian crisis we've had at the border, i think it's disingenuous for speaker ryan to have actually tried to make the argument that, somehow, his efforts actually helped deter the president do anything but make these type of horrific decisions. it's not fair. and fact that he's doing this long after he's out of public service and instead waiting to be so vocal now when, quite frankly, it doesn't matter, is a terrible thing. >> brian, obviously, this is not the first time we've heard a republican publicly support trump and privately oppose pimm. last week, justin amash said

high-ranking public officials privately thanked him when he became the first republican to call for impeachment. and that was before he left the party. so, how long can republicans keep up these acts, if they have one of these acts, speaking one way in private and then saying another thing to the public? >> well, i think if you're a politician sitting in office right now, you clearly don't want to anger the president. and if you look at the policies, though, i think most republicans look at president trump's policies and they agree with them. they like the fact that the economy's doing great. they love the tax cuts. they want to see more. and so, i don't think you're going to see republicans be critical of the president, even when they may disagree with him on an issue here or there because they support his overall record, and they think he's doing a pretty good job. >> bishop, let's talk about the democratic side of things. this feud between pelosi and the four freshmen progressive who are calling themselves the squad. it's obviously prompting a lot of democrats to take sides here. multiple progressive advocacy groups are now accusing the house democratic leadership of

escalating attacks, while others are coming to speaker pelosi's defense. congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez adding fuel to the fire this past week, claiming pelosi was engaged in "the explicit singling out of newly elected women of color." is this a serious problem in the party? >> well, i honestly don't think this is a serious problem, but what you are seeing is a generational divide that's come to the forefront. listen, this is not a bad thing. we have strong, active women of color who are finally able to truly voice their opinions on the national stage. i am all for it. black women continue to be the backbone of this country. they helped built it, they helped raise the leaders that would lead it. they are now in an opportunity, in a position to lead it themselves, and that's not only just black women, but all women of color. i think it is healthy within our party, within this country, to have these types of debates and

discussions. the way it's unfolding, there are some issues there that i would like to see this handled maybe a little bit more behind closed doors, but that doesn't negate the fact that it is an important discussion that is happening between generations of leaders and we need to see more of it. >> so, to that point you make, "the new york times" columnist maureen dowd writes "the 79-year-old speaker and the 29-year-old freshman are trapped in a generational and ideological tangle and that poses a real threat to the democrats' ability to beat donald trump next year." how do you think democrats are looking at this? >> they see aoc as the ideological leader of the party, driving so many issues, and now she's not just playing the race card against republicans, but against they are own leadership. so, we're seeing democratic socialist policies being pushed -- >> brian. >> the green new deal, tax hikes for all, massive new welfare programs. >> they need to worry more about

the president and what he does than a freshman congresswoman, to be quite frank. >> all right, guys. bishop and brian, thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you for having us. we have heavy rain and widespread flooding. what fema is doing to help the people of louisiana, next. a is e people of louisiana, next. in my line of work, i come face-to-face with a lot of behinds. so i know there's a big need for new gas-x maximum strength. it relieves pressure, bloating and discomfort fast. so no one needs to know you've got gas. gas-x.

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we've got the latest, now, on tropical storm barry. millions inland and along the gulf coast are facing dangerous flash floods and winds. the storm is expected to bring widespread rainfall of at least four inches in louisiana and mississippi. mandatory evacuations are under way after water overran the streets of parts of louisiana. joining me now is the deputy administrator of fema, peter gayn gaynor. what has the flooding and damage been like? is it as bad as you expected? >> we'll do assessments later on today in louisiana. the message is please don't take your eye off the storm. we have life-threatening conditions as the storm moves north, into, you know, northern louisiana, mississippi, western tennessee. flash flooding rain is the

threat and the danger that we're worried about today. >> flash flooding and rain is what the worry is. what should people do to make sure they're staying safe? >> first, we want you to pay attention to local officials. local officials, public safety officials, have the best information about the risk and threat to you. whether you tune into radio or tv or the internet, make sure that you know what's going around in your neighborhood, in your community, to keep your family and yourself safe. >> there's some people to the north that didn't expect to get hit with the heavy rains. what should they be anticipating? >> if you've been looking at hurricane barry, now, tropical storm barry, brought to louisiana, you're going to get much of the same. 6 to 12 inches of rain in the lower mississippi valley. 20 inches isolated. it's flash flooding. we want people to stay out of the water. 90% of all deaths related to

weather are flooding, water-related. and 50% of the deaths are vehicle-related deaths. turn around, don't drown, keep your family safe and don't put first responders at risk by making bad choices. >> peter gaynor, of the federal emergency management agency, fema, thank you for joining us this weekend. ahead, on "up" with david gura, jay inslee talks about what he hopes to seize the white house. s to seize the white house. and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey would say "oh we can't beat usaa" we're the webber family. we're the tenney's we're the hayles, and we're usaa members for life. ♪ get your usaa auto insurance quote today.

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all right. that will do it for me on this hour of "msnbc live." now, it's time for "up with david gura." ♪ >> this is "up." i'm david gura. a new report this morning there have been immigration raids in two new york city neighbors, that have been unsuccessful, according to the city's mayor. >> this is not about safety. this is using government agents for political purposes. >> atlanta is one of the cities that i.c.e. is targeting. the mayor is going to join us and the governor of washington state, jay inslee, who is speaking out about the trump administration's immigration policies.