they're doing it on their own. in that case they still got a lot of help from the government over the decades. >> for a kid from long island -- >> thanks for having me. >> thank you very much. with that, that is our broadcast this friday night from the sea of tranquility. thank you for being here with us. have a good weekend and have a good night from what is our nbc news head quarters here in new york. very happy to have you with us. happy friday. a lot to get to this hour in sort of a heterogenius news day. we are going to start with george nader. this is george nader. in 1985, george nader was indicted in washington, d.c. on child pornography charges. he ultimately beat those charges in court because he and his

legal team were able to get the charges dismissed based on the fact that the evidence in the case was improperly seized from his washington apartment. that was not the end of it. not by a long shot. five years later george nader was indicted again on similar charges after he was caught with child pornography. this time not in his apartment, but in his luggage in the d.c. area. george nader was convicted in that case and served time on those child porn charges. that also was not the end of it. five years after that -- ten years after that in 2000, prosecutors say george nader trafficked a child for sex into the united states. he brought a 14-year-old boy to the united states from europe for the purpose of sexually abusing the boy. prosecutors say he did that in 2000 and they say they have evidence to prove it.

more on that later on. three years after that incident in 2003 he was convicted in the czech republic of abusing multiple underage boys. it's unclear what his sentence may have been, but the convict itself is a matter of public record. then after that career in 2016, the same george nader turns up in the trump campaign. and in what is an astonishingly scandal-ridden presidency, george nader remains one of the most unsettling figures in all of trump world. again, to be clear torque disam b biguate here, we are not talking about jeffery epstein. no, this is a whole different guy who you can see in this picture with the president, who is now in federal custody awaiting a whole different set of child trafficking charges as

well as serious charges, and not for the first time. george nader's role in the trump campaign and trump transition and even in the trump administration is not a glancing thing. he is not just a guy who showed up as a fundraiser once. in august 2016 which is the peak, the height of the 2016 presidential campaign that year, george nader turned up at a meeting in trump tower with donald trump jr., erik prince and joel zamel offering help beating hillary clinton, help from foreign sources. united arab em rats and saudi arabia were offering material help in terms of a social media effort to turn off clinton voters and activate trump's voters. nobody quite knows what happened to that pitch with that foreign assistance from uae and saudi arabia. but that pitch was facilitated

by george nader. and we do know nader ended up paying joel zamel a couple of million dollar as soon as the election was over. what was he paying for? we also know from "the new york times" that as election day got closer and closer and things got frenetic, for some reason, george nader was still a welcome presence in trump world. "the new york times" describes multiple meetings taken in the final weeks of the campaign between george nader and mike flynn and his campaign manager steve bannon and his son-in-law, now white house senior adviser jared kushner. i mean, at a point in the campaign -- in the final weeks of campaign when guys like that should have had time to meet with no one, they were taking multiple meetings with this guy george nader. and then after trump won but before he was sworn in in december of 2016 there's george nader again, meeting at the four

seasons hotel in new york city with the ruler of the united arab em rats, mbz who went out of his way to inform the obama administration he was making that visit despite the fact he was the ruler of a foreign country and that's the thing you're supposed to let the government know about. he did not tell the obama administration he was here at that secret meeting in december 2016 during the transition. the cast of characters reportedly involved george nader, the crown prince of the united arab em rats and once again, mike flynn, steve bannon, jared kushner, and this time another friend of jared kushner, rick gerson. he turns up multiple times in the mueller report, for funneling a putin approved document that he obtained from an investment fund and delivered that to the kremlin with direct approval from vladimir putin. so that happens in december of

2017. then in january of 2017, hey, there's george nader again. this time at a meeting in the seychelles islands so erik prince could meet the same russian investments guy. erik prince was supposed to be an emissary of the trump administration. they meet in the seychelles islands in a meeting that's described in detail. and it's still mysterious in the mueller report, but again, in the middle of the meeting there's that guy, the child porn guy, george nader. once trump took office he's described as a frequent presence to the white house in particular to spend time with steve bannon in his white house office just off the oval. he also reportedly was part of multiple perspectives made to the trump administration involving elliot broidy, who's

under criminal investigation in part with george nader who had so many ins with the trump campaign, the trump transition, the trump white house. he was the perfect conduit. last month george nader was arrested yet again on yet another round of child pornography charges and today in federal court in the eastern district of virginia he was formally indicted on those charges. he had a tent tiff trial date set. we learned prosecutor haves now added that charge of child sex trafficking dating back to the year 2000, that allegation of nader bringing in a 14-year-old boy to abuse him. in today's hearing nader's

team -- it was in the year 2000, it was therefore too long ago to be charged with that crime. the prosecution signalled they have some sort of work around in terms of why they still think they can charge george nader with that everyone though it happened so long ago. the prosecution signalled today in court that at least one of their witnesses who they'll call to provide evidence against george nader is somebody who speaks the czech language, so presumably that means there may be some nexus to the still somewhat child abuse charges for which nader was convicted in 2003, but no u.s. reporters have been able the figure out very much. so bottom line, if you're wondering, no, all is not well. none of this is normal. even if you ignore every single thing the president of the united states has ever said, including all of the atrocious

deliberately outrageous racist things he has just been saying over the last week -- even if you never heard him speak, nothing about this presidency is normal. this is not normal, what you are seeing on the screen here. and none of the scandals surrounding this president is anything like what we have seen from other presidents, even the worst presidents. part of the reason george nader, convicted child porn afish ya that doe is has surfaced in trump's world is because his name appears in the robert mueller investigation multiple times. he gave multiple interviews with to mueller's team. that's how we know about the still mysterious meetings happening with the trump campaign, transition and administration and the various

foreign things nader was involved with. i'll tell you something about nader, a lot of it is blacked out as grand jury material or protective investigative techniques. this is a page of the report. i think this is page 148. there's tons of stuff from nader. you get to the part by him and it's blacked out. if we ever get a judge to allow mueller's report to be released to the public, a lot of it is fleshing out what mueller was able to provide fbi agent in the mueller investigation before he had to go back to jail. as of right now, george nader is in custody awaiting both set of charges. in eastern virginia the federal judge cut off his defense lawyers when they tried to raise the prospect he might get out on bail. the judge said, quote, i think given the nature of the charges and the extensive overseas

connections that your client has, the decision to have him detained is appropriate. the defense lawyer says, your honor, we are asking that the court reconsider this issue. we filed a motion when the case was under seal earlier today. the judge says, all right, i will have a look at it. the defense attorney says, thank you your honor. but the judge says, when i saw the amount of time your client is out of states and frankly the charges carry enough of an education poe exposure would be incentive enough to flee. in order, i'll read it, but really? so there's george nader whose presence spreads look a food stain through the pages of the mueller report. newly charged today. now not just with additional child pornography charges on top

of the charges he's faced and done time for in the past buck now he's charged with international child sex trafficking. that indictment unsealed today, his bail denied. this happens of course just as washington braces itself for the testimony of robert mueller on wednesday of next week. now, there has been a ton of back and forth about the exact details and the logistics of mueller's appearance. he's going to do three hours willi with the judiciary committee and then two hours after that with the intelligence committee. the first will focus on obstruction of justice, the second the russians in the election and the campaign's involvement in that attack. whether or not his team will be allowed to testify as well, it's interesting. quietly a few days ago, the lead fbi agent that worked on mueller's team did do five hours

behind closed doors with the intel committee in the house. it was a closed door hearing. therefore we do not know what happened there, be you that happening without much fanfare is a bit of a poo for the intelligence community because other mueller personnel are having a hard time getting in the door. the justice department is trying to block two of mueller's prosecutors from appearing at all. neither is a justice department employee anymore. technically the justice department doesn't get to say what they do. now that they have gone back to private life. nevertheless the justice department is trying to block them from appearing next week. we still don't know what's going to happen here. we hope to get some clarity on what's going to happen at least before mueller starts his testimony wednesday. it's possible we may get more clarity tonight. we have a person from the

judiciary committee in the studio to ask. you should also know this weekend you have to opportunity to get yourself ready for next week's big week. first of all, on sunday night, msnbc is going to be airing a special. it's basically a prep session for you and the whole country on mueller's investigations and report and findings. that's going to be hosted by the great ari melber, sunday 9:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. attendance is mandatory. now, if you are driving somewhere for the summer weekend or if you're going to be folding laundry or mowing the lawn or doing a big mess of dishes or where you might have time to listen to something, i might also commend thee to the brand new podcast just launched today that's aimed at explaining the mueller report but also dramatizing it and making it cool and listenable.

this was just dropped today by the good folks at law fare. i know a lot of people have been reading it out loud. it's been projected into theater. the law folks have done a good job doing this is the an audiodocument. a podcast and also to make it cool and spenceful. >> it's 2014 in st. petersburg, russia. in the heart of the city a small nondescript office building. inside workers stare at computer screens, open to facebook and twitter, furiously typing. their task? sow discord, disinformation, and doubt. their target? the united states of america. through fake social media accounts and armies of bots they're flooding online media with disinformation.

this is a troll farm. its name? the internet research agency. this is the report. an audio series from law fare. breaking down the report of special counsel robert s. mueller iii. >> can't you see yourself driving down the highway, the miles just slipping away as you lose yourself in that? the record podcast explaining and dramatizing the mueller report. just in time for you to listen to that this weekend because you need to get prep for mueller's testimony next week. also the sunday night special on msnbc at 9:00. don't be caught unawares. next week is going to be a big deal. one last thing -- you should also know ahead of mueller's testimony, just today there was a big volley from the democratic controlled congress to sdny, the

u.s. attorney's office this week that unsealed documents on a judge's order that related to the hush money case, the campaign finance felonies case that put the president's long time lawyer, michael cohen in prison. in a letter today to sdny, to the attorney's office, elijah couplings is demanding information from the prosecutor's office about why it is michael cohen was the okay. one charged with the felonies and whether or not the president would be charged if he were someone other than the president and whether or not main justice bill barr shut it down with no charges being brought and lines of inquiry cut off. cummings told them they wants copiies of immunity deals granted. wants evidence related to the president's possible involvement in the felonies. he wants written answers. quote, did your office conduct

an investigation into potential criminal conduct by the president of the united states? did your office collect evidence of the president's direct participation in potential criminal conduct? did your office not indict the president due in part a whole to the department of justice policy described? what was the influence of bill barr in any decisions on this case for any potential crimes relating to your investigation, did your office, attorney general orbing any other official render a prosecutorle jum with respect to the president? it goes on and on and on. the last question he asks is, why have no other participants involved in the campaign finance vie las vegass been charged with a crime? the likelihood sdny is going to respond and hand over this material he's asking for is about the same chance i'm going hit a land-speed record on my crutches. it's not going to happen.

the u.s. attorney's offices don't respond to inquiries from the hill. they may get something from a justice, but it's going to be controlled by bill barr. yeah, yeah, yeah, i did it. ahead of mueller's testimony, though, i think this volley from elijah cummings is important. because this is a direct shot across the bow at the justice department that they should have to explain their decisions, and they should have to explain who made those decisions. at least and specifically when it comes to potentially criminal behavior by the president of the united states and the justice department collecting evidence of that and assessing what should be done about it. this is why you have to study this weekend. it's still going to be a good weekend, but for citizenship class -- which convenes with double day next week, we have to do a little homework. more ahead tonight. stay with us. rtunity sales even.

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t minus five days until special counsel robert mueller testifies before congress. wednesday morning he'll spend three hours in open testimony before judiciary and two hours before intel. when it was announced he would testify, prosecutors who worked with him, they were also expected to testify after mueller behind closed doors in private transcribed interviews.

we on this show had confirmation on air from adam schiff and jerry nadler those lieutenant interviews were planned. since then, that plan seems to have fallen apart a little bit. msnbc news pointing out they're no longer anymore. quote, there are still ongoing discussions with the house intelligence committee and the department of justice to allow deputies to appear closed classifies session. quote, this just seems to be another effort by the attorney general to limit the amount of information coming out of the special counsel's office in order to protect the president. so even with testimony scheduled, there's still time to drop out. joining us now is one of people questioning mueller five days from now. jonah goose is a member of the house judiciary committee. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> let me ask you about the

deputies -- it was on and reportedly off and new it's influx. >> i don't know the answer to that yes. i'm not sure. there are a lot of moving parts. the chairman of our committee is doing a tremendous job. the negotiations are ongoing. from my vantage point and the american people the focus will be on the special counsel himself. >> do you think it would be valuable to hear from the them? >> sure. we are indeed of the ability to really hear from the fact witnesses themselves. so from my vantage point, questioning the special counsel next week will be an important milestone. it will be an opportunity for the american public to hear from the special counsel about the criminality and the conclusions he reached. it's just the beginning, not the end. we need to hear from mr. mcgahn, miss donaldson. as you know, you have had the chair on many times.

we believe they can make no argument. nevertheless, these witnesses can't assert that, so we expect tome this appear as well. >> the legal wrangling of fact witnesses is frustrating to those who want the story further unravelled just because it is a taking a long time. you and the chairman expressed you're on strong legal footing that they're asserting privileges that don't exist. is the idea that, yeah, this is taking a long time but ultimately when we win in court the dam will break, or is every single one of these fact witnesses going take months or years to spill out? >> i certainly hope it's the former and not the latter. i think that's the case. we are on strong legal footing. i think ultimate will i the

witnesses will be compelled to testify. next week's hearing ought to be where the focus is. it's an important first step. i will also say, part of the challenge has been the fog of confusion created by this administration. you documented it on your program many times -- the administration constantly rebuffing congress, refusing to comply with subpoenas. it's created a fog of confusion around the special counsel's finding and that's why the hearing is so important. so the public can understand what he's concluded. >> have you been doing moot court, dry runs where you figure out how to get to the bottom of things? >> we have been preparing. i won't reveal the internal deliberation. >> just tell me who's playing robert mueller. tell me if you have got deniro. >> there are many capable lawyers. we are prepared, unified.

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get to the dozens of articles president obama's near obsession with trying to do something about bees about the declining honey bee population in this country, a population that's plummeted and that has profound on us being able the eat. reason this matters the reason obama cared about it during his presidency is because bees enable 75% of the food crops in the world. most of the fruits, vegetable and nuts all of us eat exist because of the roll bees play in pollinating the crops. if bees go away, so does the food. bees are vital to the nation's economy. they contribute more than $15 billion annually to the u.s. farming industry. so of course president obama, sort of a wonk, willing to look tow science on stuff like that. willing to take it seriously. he even created a special task

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for weeks we have been covering the trump administration's to take apart science. dozens of high level scientists working as career civil servants at that agency were told they had a grand total of one month to decide whether they would move halfway across the country in order keep their jobs.

the government doesn't even have an office for them to move into in kansas city, but for whatever reason the trump administration says this move needs to happen right now, no extensions new york exceptions. two thirds of the usda scientists affected by this decision are already known to be accepting termination rather than taking the move to avoid the forced uprooting of their lives by the u.s. government. one usda told to move or be fire second down currently undergoing chemotherapy. another multiple sclerosis. we learned they asked for an extension from the government for more time to figure out if they could feasibly. neither one of the extensions was approved. democratics member this is week

wrote to sonny perdue to make sure they knew the heartships they were facing. quote, they have to choose between insurance benefit or relocate to an entirely new city in attempt to find a team. how many of them have not been approved. congress is saying they want to answers by monday. as in monday, this upcoming monday. joining us now is the member of congress whose signature is first on that, jennifer of virginia. >> thank you, rachel. it's great to be here. >> let me ask about how you and your committee came into the contact with these employees who requested the hardship extensions due to their health. how did you come into contact with them? how many are in this circumstance?

>> they have been contacting us about the issues they have been facing as they're making the incredibly difficult decisions on a short time line. they have been contacts us. there's a total of 544 employees who are going to be moving. we don't know what we don't know. unless they have reached it to us. that's one of reasons we felt it was necessary to write to perdue and question how many questioned extensions and what the grounds are for determining if they're getting granted extensions, how many have been granted, what the grounds were for those. we don't have any information at this time. >> more than 500 people have been given this ultimatum and the number of scientists we have been in contact with have said publicly is what they think is going ton here is the trump administration is torpedoing the ability of the agency to do the

scientific work they are renowned for. do you have any insight as to why the administration is doing this, or are you in grem with people who suspect that might be the reason? >> they have said they want to move these agencies out to missouri to st. louis to be closer to the farming interests out there. you know, rather than being in washington, d.c. i question the veracity of that both ginn the administration's history of pretext yule reason for things it's doing and also where it's located now -- i'm from virginia. virginia is our number one -- number one industry is agriculture. in missouri it doesn't make the top four. i question that. i think the more likely explanation is that these agencies have created research and scientific and economic research which directly conflicts with this administration's political goals. >> briefly, if you don't get the answer that you're looking for

from this letter, if you can't get the information you're looking for, is there discussion on your committee of potential subpoenas or potential investigation into this decision? obviously if you're concerned that this might be pretextual they might be lying about why they're doing this. is that going to be a matter of investigation? >> absolutely. this is something over which it's entirely appropriate for us to conduct oversight. we in the house of representatives have also passed two appropriation bills which probability the agriculture department from using money in order to implement this move, so i hope that make it into the final spending bill. but i am still hopeful secretary perdue will provide the response we requested by monday. >> thanks for sequining us tonight. i'm stuck on this issue. i'm not getting over it. >> and thank you. yes, thank you for drawing attention to it. it's a huge issue that's pe

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distributed into your county. you can do this now through the website op "the washington post." we posted the link so it's easy for to you find. you can do this for any county in the country. the reason you can do this now is because it turns out there is a data base of every opioid pill sold in this country. down to the one. it's a list maintained by the dea. from the drug manufacturers to the distributors to the individual pharmacies all across the country. and it exists so the dea can supposedly track suspicious sales. the dig pharmaceutical companies and distributors are required to report each transaction to the dea. who has access to this data base? it's always been kept secret, hidden from the public view until now. a team of intrepid reporters from "the washington post" and

gazette mail have been trying to get ax for a couple of years now. the post originally filed a freedom of information act request. it was denied. government did not want to site made public. perhaps more importantly, the drug companies did not want it made public. he repeatedly told the courts that if this information was made public about what pills went where, that might give their come pot to haves the other drug companies an advantage in the marketplace. the competitors might find out where the hungriest most addicted markets for. that's valuable information. you know how many pills you can sell? we can't let that information out there. the drug companies have to submit information. but then the database is kept secret. the reporters were trying to get it made available, to them and their newspapers. they kept getting rebuffed "the

washington post" and ultimately saw a windmill in ohio, where a judge is overseeing the biggest case in history. it's about 2,000 cases brought by state and local governments against the big pharmaceutical companies that make and sell these pills that many federal judge in ohio previously allowed some of plaintiffs in that case, some of the cities and towns themselves to access some of the data from this big important mind blowing database bush it was under a protective order. even though they could see it, they couldn't tell anybody about what they could find there. in a legal proceeding that's what's known as a good place to start. the good folks at "the washington post" and gazette mail tried to intervene saying, if you can let them see this under a protective order. we as news organizations and us the public should be able to get access to it too.

initially the judge told them know. the newspapers didn't accept that answer. they appealed the judge's ruling. lawyers for the post argued this served a public need to know, it would serve the public interest in understanding and fighting the opioid crisis to know which manufacturers and which distributors sent how many drugs where and which drugstores sold them. ultimately it was a federal appeals court that agreed with the news organizations on this and ruled in their favor. quote, the data will aid us in understanding the full enormity of the opioid epidemic and might there by aid us in ending it. with that, six years of data from this database tracking every single opioid pill in america was made available to the public and "the post" made this widget on their website that allows to you ax it in this incredibly convenient way. that's why you can get this data

for anywhere in the country. put in the state and the county next. if you pick the county where you know and you click on that, you'll recognize the pharmacies that pop up in the third column. now that we have ax to that database, thanks to the reporters, we can now all see for the first time what's been going on down to the pill. as "the post" puts it the number of pills the company sold are staggering, far exceeding what has previously been disclosed in limited court filings and news stories. far exceeding what was out there. i wonder why they didn't want anyone to see this. turns out you didn't want to country to know you were shipping out more than 12 billion highly addictive pain pills in a year. 12 billion pills to a country with only 320 million people in it. yeah, i probably wouldn't want anybody downloading that data

either. what the post has been able to get their hands on is data from 2006 to 2012. it's all the reporters were able to get out of the courts for now. one of the amazing things here is so many more billions of pills were being shipped out than anybody knew about, but also it got worse and worse and worse over time. start inning 2006, and over the seven year to 2012 as the opioid crisis lit the country on fire, right? and the death rate started sky rocki ro rocketing and the country started freaking out, while 100,000 americans were killed in this period, we can now tell they were upping the number they were shipping every year. in 2006 they were at 8.4 billion pills. by 2012 they were shipping out an average of 36 highly addicted

pain pills for everien ma, woman, child, and baby in the united states. and now you can check the see if your county was on par with that or maybe doing better than that, or maybe you're one of the counties where the companies went whole hog. the per person average as of 2012 was that they were shipping out 36 pills for every man, woman, and child in the country. in norton virginia, the smallest city in virginia, up there they weren't shipping 36 pills per person. they were shipping 306 pills per person over the course of just one year. it's a stonishing. the other thing that's amazing is it doesn't tell us how many pills we are shipping overall and where and how they went up and up and up each year. they also tell us what the companies knew about their own behavior. this is what they knew they were doing. this is their own data they plugged into this database.

they knew. this company, speck gx knew they were shipping highly addictive fills that year. 4.7 million pills. walmart knew it alone was distributing 3.4 million highly addictive pills into a town of 4,000 people. they knew what the number of pills it was shipping and dispensing and precisely when they were aware of these volumes year way year, despite they were being sold in aen maar inconsistent with law and diverted to a black mark. "the washington post" is releasing details. also to their credit released it now for everybody to see and search for your own community. you see the exact number of pills unleashed on your

community during the time period. it's a remarkable tool. we have got it for seven years. a lot of powerful companies wanted to keep this secret, but now we all have ax to it thanks to the virginia's charleston gazette mail. i don't know if you love or hate your local paper or don't remember, but regardless, do it anyway. subscribe to your local paper. your country needs you to. see ow monday. now joy reed. i took your first 58 seconds. >> it was very much worth it. this is drug dealing and you transport this back, these are drug dealers. we are treating it because it's prescriptions, something other than drug dealing. this is massive national drug dealing rings. >> at a corporate scale and with corporate data management to match. for wal-mart to know, wal-mart to hide the information that they have 4,000 people in