tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC July 22, 2019 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
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see the 50th anniversary of the famous first step. and neil armstrong famously said that the control in mission control was christopher kraft. he was 95 years old at the time of his death. that's our broadcast for this monday night. thank you so much for being here with us. good night from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. s headquarters here in new york. the trump white house gave this little boutique outfit a hard pass for access to the white house grounds and a permanent seat in the white house briefing room.
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remember when the white house used to hold press briefings? president trump also started quoting this little news outlet and frequently telling people that they should be watching them, praising the ratings which is the highest possible praise from this president. today has been a more ridiculous than most day in the news. and there is a ton going on. trump's favorite tv network turns out that little news network has a full time on air reporter who covers u.s. politics who is also simultaneously on the pay roll
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of the kremlin. because at the same time he works for trump's favorite one america news thing he is also being paid by the russian government to produce government-funded pro putin propaganda for a russian government-funded propaganda outlet. there is a lot of news today. but among the news gods dropped off their plates for us to eat off the floor today is the actual news that this super right wing news outlet endorsed as alternative to fox news because he thinks fox is insufficiently pro trump, we literally learned today the
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outlet shares staff with the kremlin. it's an easy thing to throw out like an epithet in the trump era. in this case, the most pro trump news outlet in america really literally is paid russian propaganda. their on air u.s. politics reporter is paid by the russian government to produce propaganda for that government. i mean, this is the kind of news we're supposed to just like take in stride these days. we do our best. i guess you just swallow that and we move on. we expect others may wonder if they should have a kremlin staffer doing reporting, too.
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anyway, let's get to it. there is a lot going on. given all of the drama that's happening right now in washington and how much more dramatic it's going to get in washington over the next two days, i actually want to start tonight with something in washington that was a tremendously solemn occasion because today the country started the process of laying to rest former supreme court justice john paul stevens. he was appointed to the circuit court of appeals by richard nixon. then he was appointed to the supreme court by gerald ford. justice stevens found himself to be the leader of the liberal wing on the u.s. supreme court where he served for over three decades. justice stevens authored the famous dissent in bush v. gore and authored ruling of the execution of mentally disabled and authored key rulings on
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guantanamo to some kind of accountable rule of law. justice stevens retired from the court in 2010 where upon his seat went to justice alaina kagen. as he laid in repose at the great hall of the supreme court, it was justice kagen who now holds his seat who spoke for him. in her remarks she singled out his law clerks, law clerks who had served with him in each of his 30 years on the court. they all came to the court today to honor him. she started with a reference to his famous work ethic and how much the work of his own chamber as he famously shouldered himself. >> justice stevens more than most justices did not need law clerks. when i talk with you over the
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years and in the last few days about justice stevens, you all say the same thing. you all say that he was the best boss you ever had. you all say that you learned the most from him, that you learned the most in that year that you spent with him than in any year before or since. you learned about treating people with dignity and with courtesy and with respect and with kindness. and you learned about the importance of putting all your legal talents and gifts to use in serving others. and as you've lived by those lessons and as you pass them on to others after you, you perhaps do the most to honor justice stevens and to honor his legacy.
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>> justice kagen speaking at the great hall of the supreme court as justice stevens laid in repose. if you're ever the boss of anything in your life, imagine somebody saying things like that at your funeral someday. justice stevens in addition to his service he served in world war ii. he enlisted in the military the day before pearl harbor, the day before. he was a code breaker. he won the bronze star. tomorrow he will be buried at arlington. his passing feels like a particularly powerful touch stone at this exact moment in our national life. the day after justice stevens is buried, the day after tomorrow, robert mueller will testify to congress about the russia investigation that he led and his report and his findings. there have been a bunch of interesting headlines all day today about what to expect when his testimony gets underway on wednesday and how it is already being fought over. first we learned today that he
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will make an opening statement of some kind. this means that in terms of your wednesday, you should plan to be in your chair and watching and ready to go at least by 8:30 a.m. eastern time which is when they gavel in the session because mueller is giving an opening statement in addition to opening remarks. we do not know what's in mueller's opening statement but his spokesperson told reporters today that the opening statement didn't have to be cleared with the justice department and it has not been cleared with the justice department. it means nobody knows what he is going to say. it means even though the justice department has been trying to pressure mueller about his testimony and the constraints on it, if mueller is already planning an opening statement that he is not planning on showing the department ahead of time, that means he is retaining some independent control over his remarks regardless of what the justice department is telling him to do. just before we got on the air
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tonight jake gibson at fox news was first to report on this letter sent to robert mueller today trying basically to circumscribe his testimony on wednesday morning. dear mr. mueller, i write in response to your letter concerning the subpoenas you received from the committees on the house. it quotes a little bit from what mueller said from his one public press conference and then pulls out the guillotine in terms of mueller's testimony. the department generally does not permit prosecutors such a yourself to appear and testify before congress regarding their investigative and prosecutorial activity. should you testify, the department understands that your testimony should not go beyond the public version of your report to the attorney general. there should be no testimony concerning the redacted versions of the report. in addition it is the department's long standing
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policy not to discuss the conduct of uncharged third parties, named trump. the department policy also procludes any comment on the facts developed and legal conclusions by the special counsel's office with respect to uncharged individuals -- the president. the letter goes on to say that mueller is not allowed to say anything about discussion about investigative steps or decisions made during your investigation claiming all of those things are covered by privilege. and then it closes, quote, i trust this information is helpful and then signed by associate deputy attorney general. he was appointed to that job by jeff sessions last summer in a typical for the trump administration misspelled press release, the announcement literally the second paragraph contained both a typo.
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and then it said will began serving as acting socassociate deputy attorney general and will have no role in overseeing the special counsel except now here he is signing the new letter to mueller tonight that directs mueller to not say anything at all to congress about trump or about any of his investigative decisions as special counsel and telling him everything else he did was covered by privilege and otherwise stuff that the department expects him not to talk about or wants him not to talk about. a senior justice department official tells us tonight that mueller's letter to the justice department which this letter says it is in response to, apparently that letter to mueller to justice was simply a one paragraph letter sending the justice department the subpoenas he got from congress and asking for guidance for what he could say. now we know that the justice department took 12 days to respond to mueller on that and
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now tonight they have given him this order to basically not tell congress anything at all especially not about the president or anybody else who was in charge and it was signed by a justice department official who is supposed to have no role in this matter at all. we will get some expert help on that in just a second in terms of the implications of this letter and what mueller might do about it. you should also know that the president does appear to already be freaking out a bit about mueller's wednesday morning testimony. whether or not you see the justice department letter that was sent to mueller tonight as part of the freak out is up to you. the president is saying directly online that robert mueller shouldn't be allowed to testify wednesday morning. he is once again claiming that robert mueller has some terrible conflict of interest that nobody has ever really been able to explain. here is one thing to keep an eye on tomorrow, though, on the eve of robert mueller's testimony. tomorrow fbi director chris wray is due to testify at an oversight hearing in the senate
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judiciary committee. even if robert mueller is going to say as little as possible on wednesday and follows later that he received tonight and says basically nothing, robert mueller and his team, well, mueller's investigation included a team full of high level fbi agents. mueller's team was handed ongoing open fbi investigations for them to fold into their work. i mean, if the fbi has things to answer for in the scandal, if the fbi director has questions he should answer when it comes to the investigation and the counter intelligence investigation into whether the president is or was compromised by a foreign power, when it comes to newly unsealed michael cohen search warrants that show fbi agents obtaining approval to get evidence of michael cohen communicating about his campaign finance felonies with trump and with the trump campaign while in the process of committing those felonies. if the fbi director is going to
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take questions on any of that, his testimony in the senate judiciary committee tomorrow might be a worthy warmup act for robert mueller testifying particularly because the democrats on the senate judiciary committee tend to be sort of on top of it when it comes to their questions. this isn't all of them, but you recognize these folks, right. not to be weird, but three of the four people on screen here are right now running for president. and they're in the senate and not the house. so these senators, senator harris, booker, klobuchar will never get a chance to ask mueller anything but will be able to question chris wray tomorrow along with all of the other judiciary committee democrats led by senator dianne feinstein. and as we close in on what we all expect to be this key moment in our democracy this week,
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simultaneously we are also seeing an almost unimag aenbly huge outbreak in the u.s. territory of puerto rico. you saw the images today. these were some of the largest protests ever in the history of puerto rico. the protests today shut down the city's streets and highway and everything on the island as a significant portion of the population of puerto rico turned out to demand the resignation of the republican governor for corruption, for leaked messages that showed what they really think of the people of puerto rico, for the botched response to hurricane maria and the thousands of deaths that entailed. these crowds in puerto rico today were just absolutely stunning. and the governor's own stumble into an interview for which he clearly was not prepared on fox news with shep smith may have nailed his political coffin shut
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today. >> the oversight board that controls puerto rico's finances you said go f yourself. and when your representative said he is salivating to shoot the woman you said you would be doing me a grand favor. attacks on women, gays, dead relatives of your residents. who is left to support you and is it safe for you to continue to attempt to govern? >> i have apologized for that. i'm making amends for all of those efforts. >> you apologized for what specifically. >> for all of the comments that i have made on the chats. >> why did you say those things? what was it that inspired you to say those things to other officials in such a cavalier, dismissive way? do you remember what it was? it wasn't just a day or week or a month. it was two months, 900 pages in december and january of that sort of language from the governor about his own people.
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>> well, again, some of that language is not mine. some of it was discussed by -- >> that's true because it was someone else who -- i want to clarify that and i apologize because someone else said i would like to shoot the female mayor of san juan. then you said you would be doing me a great favor. >> shep smith is very good at his job. i don't know if governor maybe thought he was going on a different part of fox news. i don't know if he didn't think he would get these kinds of questions about why a million puerto ricans are in the streets demanding his resignation and shutting down that capitol. i don't know what he expected, but i'm sure that did not help. he said he will not run for re-election and he has resigned his leadership role in his own political party but has not yet
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resigned his office which is what the people in the streets are seeking. it has been a remarkable day in the news. these images today of violent mobs of men in white shirts wielding metal bars and bats, attacking people, wounding dozens of people including lawmakers and journalists, many of them believed to be organized crime members, many people caught up in this say they believe the men were essentially dispatched to hong kong by the chinese government. many men were carrying the flag of mainland china as they did so. these images today, terrifying as they are follow a report in the financial times that president trump recently advised the president of china that the u.s. would back off and say nothing no matter what president xi did to crack down on the
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pro-democracy protesters in hong kong. the u.s. would not bother him. and indeed even as we all saw these images from the protests and from the violent attacks today, there was no response from the u.s. government today. the president was asked about the violent attacks by masked gangs of men today. the president told reporters that he had seen the footage and then he said it has been relatively non-violent. that was his response today after the reports that the president assured china they can do what they want and the u.s. would say nothing. president trump hosted the president of pakistan at the white house today. do you remember when the president attacked the khan family, the parents of captain khan killed in iraq. his parents spoke at the democratic convention and the president attacked saying if you look at his wife, meaning
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captain khan's father's wife, captain khan's mother. she had nothing to say. maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. you tell me. that was how the president attacked them. the khans are pakistani american. the president attacked mrs. khan as maybe not being allowed to speak. she explained she was too grief stricken by the loss of her son to speak and that's why she stood next to her husband as he gave remarks. the president attacked her anyways maybe she is not allowed to speak. take another look at that american tableau that president trump assembled today to host the president of pakistan. notice anything? who knows? maybe the women aren't allowed in there in the united states. who knows? you tell me.
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so there is a lot going on. on top of everybody being on edge about mueller's testimony wednesday morning, there is a lot going on. this is no time to check out. as i mentioned, we just obtained this remarkable letter from the justice department. the letter tells robert mueller that he basically cannot talk about anything in his testimony on wednesday morning. now that we have received that letter signed by a career justice department official just appointed to his current job this past summer by jeff sessions i feel like we need expert help to under the significance of the letter. that's next. under the significance of the letter. that's next. you try hard, you eat right... mostly. you make time... when you can. but sometimes life gets in the way, and that stubborn fat just won't go away. coolsculpting takes you further. a non-surgical treatment that targets, freezes, and eliminates treated fat cells, for good. discuss coolsculpting with your doctor. some common side-effects include temporary numbness, discomfort, and swelling.
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any testimony from this office would not go beyond our report. it contains our findings and analysis and the reasons for the decisions we made. we chose those words carefully and the work speaks for itself. and the report is my testimony. i would not provide information beyond that which is already public in any appearance before congress. >> that was robert mueller in may say figure he was called to testify to congress he wouldn't go beyond what was already in his report. robert mueller was subsequently
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subpoenaed by the judiciary committees in the house. now tonight in a last-minute letter from the justice department, a career official who is now associate deputy attorney general at the justice department is telling mueller that he must stick to the findings in his report and may not answer question business yond what he wrote. quote any testimony must remain within the boundaries of your public report. the justice department telling mueller tonight that matters within the scope of his investigation that are covered by executive privilege include any discussion about investigative steps or decisions made during your investigation. the justice department is trying to close off mueller from being able to answer any questions on those matters. joining us now is a former spokesperson for the justice department during the obama administration. thanks for joining us on such short notice. i appreciate it. >> of course. >> part of the letter echoes what mueller himself basically told the country to expect from his testimony that he wouldn't go beyond what's in his report.
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but elements of this letter seem to go beyond that telling mueller he won't be able to answer questions that attorney general william barr has talked quite a lot about and has gone out of his way to sort of characterize -- mueller according to the justice department won't be able to rebut those things? >> i think you hit on the most remarkable thing. the attorney general has testified before congress three times about this report. he held a press conference about it. he has talked about it in a number of interviews and talked about his own decision making and mueller's decision making and the president's motivations for why he took some of the actions that he did and have do. to me it feels like a rerun of the initial release where bill barr can say anything he wants about the investigation and why d.o.j. did what they did but no
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one else including the special counsel should be allowed to do so. >> given that. i think not just in the abstract, but given the context here and that barr has characterized not only mueller's findings, but mueller's decision-making process and investigative decisions that mueller made and what he -- how he embued them. will mueller receive this as black letter instruction that he will follow to the letter? or is this the sort of thing that he might have his own ideas about given that he is a private citizen and the justice department doesn't get to control what he does. >> jim comey and sally yates testified after they left the department. sally yates had gotten a similar letter reminder her that she was supposed to respect certain privileges. both of those former officials said what they wanted to. mueller can do that, too, as a private citizen. there is no way that they can
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stop them. i think he bill respect the guidance in the letter. what he said in the previous appearance made it clear that he didn't want to testify and the fact that he asked for the letter. he is going in as a private citizen but under subpoena. if he declined to answer questions we know he will get from congress, he doesn't have legal right to do eso. i think what the justice department has done here is both blocked him from testifying about a number of things. if he wants to take their instruction, but it is also a legal reason to do so saying i'm under orders by the justice department that i can't answer the questions because they might raise certain privileges. >> in terms of the propriety when they assert everything is subject to privilege, does that seem like an aspirational claim to you by the justice department or does that seem realistic? >> i think it's important, they didn't just assert that typical
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executive privilege, conversations between president and top aides. they went to every other privilege that the department sometimes holds up. those are not recognized to be supreme when they come into the need to police misconduct. i think that's what the problem is with everything in this letter. they make the very good point that d.o.j. prosecutors don't testify about uncharged individuals. that's true, but the difference here is the main subject of this investigation couldn't be charged. so all of the privileges, all of the typical rationale that would usually apply don't apply in the case when it is the president under investigation and by d.o.j.'s own logic it is congress that is supposed to police any misconduct by the president. >> particularly when the attorney general has been happy to talk about the no charge decision for this individual. this is an interesting shot across the bow here. matt miller, thanks very much for being here. much appreciated. we have more to come
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the reporters in the story obtained more than two dozen significant incident reports written by government case workers based on what they have been told by kids who had been held by the trump administration at the border station. those significant incident reports included an allegation of sexual assault against a 15-year-old girl by a uniformed officer as well as retaliation against kids who had requested clean food and drinking water and had their bedding taken away in retaliation for those requests. now, up until this point we have been relying on documents in order to understand what's happening at facilities like that one. children held at these facilities rarely speak to the media themselves out of a quite understandable fear that they might be targeted or deported or retaliated against or -- but here is something new. tonight nbc news has obtained an
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interview with a boy held for 11 days. kids aren't supposed to be held for more than 72 hours. that boy's name is abner. he is a teenager. he has agreed to describe what he went through at that border facility. but we have obscured his face to help protect his identity. in this interview, abner describes being held in a cell that was so crowded he was ovoften forced to try to sleep standing up. standing up.
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>> stayed propped against the wall and would stay the whole night there. we could never bathe there. you can never bathe all the 11 days i was there. in addition to being held in cells so crowded he was forced to sleep standing up. he says all day and all night they would leave the lights on making it not only next to impossible to sleep but impossible to know whether it was morning, noon or night day after day after day.
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abner describes being mocked when asking border patrol officials what time it was. as officials what time it was. >> they would reprimand us for asking the time. he talked about being hungry. he says sometimes we wouldn't eat. i would want to eat but i would ask and they wouldn't give us anything. despite there being no soap to bathe with or to wash their hands with, abner tells nbc news the only way kids were able to get water was to lap it out of their own hands. they weren't given any other way to drink even though they couldn't clean their hands before they would have to do this. their hands before they would have to do this.
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>> how old is that marijuana? >> a customs and border protection official released this statement in response to this reporting. it says the claims are inconsistent from may 25 to june 5. it is important to note that customs and border protection takes all reports of employee misconduct seriously and juvenile's allegations have been referred to customs and border protection office of proerlsh responsibility. julia, thanks very much to for being here to talk about this. >> i was so glad that abner
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would sit down with us. we have an excellent producer who is fluent in spanish. it took time to speak to abner and his father to convince them to sit down. i think these stories and hearing it from his mouth does have more power to it. and the other thing i just kept thinking the whole time talking to them is i'm finding out a lot of details for the first time. abner was interviewed by government case workers right after he left. that's the story we broke on your show two weeks ago about the children who sat down. he talked a lot about the retaliatory measures by these guards, they weren't allowed to get near the windows. they would be yelled at, called names. he was scared to ask for anything. that has been known to our government for months. so it's hard to see this and to hear this and to think that so little justice has been done in the meantime. >> i know from looking at the transcript and going through the clips of the interview you were able to do with him, i know he
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talked to you in great length specifically about being hungry. one thing that really stuck with me is he says the older kids who were in the really crowded cells, teenaged kids, would go out of their way to try to make sure that the younger kids had enough food to eat basically saying there wasn't enough food to go around so the older kids were trying to take care of the younger kids. what can you tell us about that? >> one of the reasons they did that is because the children would cry, the 8, 9, 10 year olds would cry when they were sleepy, hungry. so the older kids found if they cried then the guards got angry. so the best thing to do was to protect the children it was protecting all of them. sometimes he would say if he had an extra hamburger he would give it to the younger children because the older ones could endure the hunger. there was another reason for the first 48 hours he did not lie down. he stayed standing up so that
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the younger ones could lie down. he eventually found a place to sleep only in a pile of trash in the cell. there was a community there to look out for the younger children because there was no one else there to do it. >> remarkable reporting. i know the reporting had national attention. it is hoped to be a driver for improved conditions. i suspect this will have a really big impact to being able to care for the kids. thanks for letting us break it here. >> thank you. >> thank you. wow!
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date line st. petersburg april 25, 1903. this report has been taken across the border for trans mig. the anti-jewish riots are worse than will permit to publish. there was a well laid out plan. the mob was led by priests and the general cry of kill the jews was taken up. they were slaughtered like sheep. the dead number 120. the scenes of horror attending this massacre are beyond description. that was 1903 in a report. what happened that day was not a one off. a deadly organized attacks were
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happening all over. they ripped through city after city killing thousands of people, forcing thousands more to flee for their lives. one of the people who escaped was a man named glosser. he lived in a dirt floor shack in the country called belarus. his great grand son told the story of their family's escape. glosser fled a village where they had led for centuries. he set foot on ellis island in 1903 with $8 to his name. he understood no english. the family started a business selling goods from a horse and bug buggy. they opened up a chain of supermarkets and department stores. in the span of 80 years this family emerged from poverty to become a prosperous educated clan of merchants, scholars,
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professionals and american citizens. the reason we know about mr. glosser and the generations of his family who have gone on to thrive is because that was published as an op-ed but basically an open letter from the uncle in the family to his own nephew. the nephew being white house senior adviser steven miller, architect of some of the president's most anti-immigrant policies like the muslim ban and family separation policy that results in babies being taken from parents. his uncle called him an immigration hypocrit whose policy ideas would have wiped out their own family. now stephen miller cooked up a new idea. politico reporting that mr. miller is leading a new effort to try to make it the trump administration's new policy to stop all refugees from being allowed in this country, not
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reduzing the number of refugees or making it harder. they are talking about ending the practice of people receiving refuge in america. that is stephen miller's big new idea for trying to end as much immigration, legal or otherwise that he can into this country. even if his own path to becoming an american started in a dirt floor shack in belarus and the man who fled terror and came to ellis island with eight dollars in his pocket which is how stephen miller got here. stephen miller's uncle joins us next. stay with us. uncle joins us next. stay with us. a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than 7 and maintained it. oh! under 7? (announcer) and you may lose weight. in the same one-year study, adults lost on average up to 12 pounds. oh! up to 12 pounds? (announcer) a two-year study showed that ozempic® does not
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he says it has been a while since he has spoken to his nephew. stephen miller is an immigration ipkrt. i know because i'm his uncle. now that stephen miller's big new idea is to stop refugees from entering the country at all and now that we have had a renewed national convulsion over conditions, we asked dr. glosser if he might want to talk about this matter again. he is a retired neurpsychologist. thank you for being here. it's a pleasure to have you here. >> good to be here. what shall we talk about? >> did you get a response from your nephew? >> no.
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>> you were so strong in your telling of not only your personal criticism of the trump administration's policies, but about how it relates to your family and what it would mean for stephen miller. i imagine maybe you could touch his heart because otherwise the need to make it personal must have just been difficult and painful. >> i think people understand the cruelties are being enacted, but people don't respond much to a list of statistics. i think people respond to a personal story. what hope i had of my nephew being touched by his own history was not very high to start with. he has made it his entire career and persona built on this particular issue. i hope to raise other people who have the same history i do and which i suspect you do, too, frankly, all of the people that have come into the country. the question isn't why i wrote the piece, why isn't everybody writing the piece? >> there is renewed national
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concern over the treatment of immigrants and asylum seekers in particular kids being held at the border. obviously, some of those stories are devastating. i imagine it may be heartening to you to see renewed concern and see the investigative work happening and people protesting, people holding vigils. >> people care as it turns out. once you break it away from the idea there are thousands of people damaged, break it down to individual people and individual cases. it touches people and people will stand up and do the right thing if they have the central moral values and know what to do, they'll do it. >> given your family connection to mr. miller and his identified role as the sort of leader of the most hard lined policies here, i wonder what you make of what appears to be the political calculation by your nephew and the trump administration, the harshness toward immigrants, that terrible conditions which immigrants are being held to the
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president's political benefit. >> let's break it down to the simple political calculus. it has come to the attention with regard to voter suppression action, the republican party has made the observation as have demaug raefrs that within the next 20 or 40 years the united states will go from being a white majority country to a white plurality country. as it turns out the people who are not predominantly european background are less likely to vote for republicans than for democrats. this makes it hard in order to advance their particular agenda. it is not worth while for them to allow people into the country or to allow people to gain citizenship who may not be members of their party in the future. this is not very hard to figure out and it all boils down to that. >> the part of it that i find
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hard just to stomach just viscerally is the idea that you would not just be trying to deny the number in terms of numbers, but that you would somehow galvinize native born american citizens to excite them to vote for people who are being deliberatatively cruel, that it would tap some sort of latent racist hate mongering to make it easier to elect a republican president. >> the assumption apparently among the trump administration that somehow the majority of white americans are racist when i don't believe that to be the case, but that being perhaps their own personal motivations. they may project that belief to other people. mr. trump obviously owns that brand. he is proud of it. he doesn't know what the word shame means. the last time i'm old enough to remember, you probably are not,
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the last time that a major presidential candidate ran on an overtly racist platform was george wallace back in 1968. i thought we had grown beyond that. but now we see that mr. trump and his minions have legitimized race hatred as a means of sustaining and gaining political power and influence which by the way is not a really new phenomenon in this country either or in other european countries. >> dr. david glosser, the uncle of stephen miller. thank you for coming in. i know it's not an easy thing to talk about. stay with us. easy thing to talk about. stay with us. coffs ] if you say so. ♪ -i'm sorry? -what teach here isn't telling you is that snapshot rewards safe drivers with discounts on car insurance. -what? ♪ -or maybe he didn't know. ♪ [ chuckles ] i'm done with this class.
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