ck? on it with jardiance. ask your doctor about jardiance. the type 2 diabetes pill that's on it. learn more at jardiance.com former el paso congressman and presidential candidate beto o'rourke is now in el paso, his hometowns. >> this is motivated by hatred, racism and had to be brought somewhere else into this community to do something like what we're seeing right now. i would say that in addition to everything that we're doing for our fellow el pasoans right now and meaning them in this time of suffering and need and crisis, in addition to making sure that we change our laws so it's harder for something like this to happen again. we have to ask ourselves about

the level of hatred and racism that we're seeing in this country right now that could lead to an event like the one we saw here today. and that is on all of us to both call out and to stop and in our case in el paso, to be the example of how we don't just respect one another, we embrace our differences as the very source of our strength. so could not be more proud of el paso and the way we're responding to this tragedy today. happy to take your questions. >> regarding the manifesto and everything that was in it, fears about hispanic immigration and all of that, does any of this fall at the feet of president donald trump and his rhetoric that's been growing over the last couple of weeks and his alleged racist tweets and other rhetoric? >> yes. we've had a rise in hate crimes every single one of the last three years. during an administration where you have a president who's called mexicans rapists and

criminals. he has tried to make us afraid of them, to some real effect and consequence, attempting to ban all muslim from this country, the day that he signed that executive order, the mosque in victoria, texas, was burned to the ground. talking about our fellow american citizens dual elected to represent their constituents in the congress who happen to be women of color, he is a racist and he stokes racism in this country and it does not just offend our sensibilities. it fundamentally changes the character of this country and it leads to violence. and, again, there are still details that we are waiting on, but i'm just following the lead that i've heard from the el paso police department where they say there are strong indications that this shooter wrote that

manifesto and this was inspired by his hatred of people here in this community. >> reporter: when you were in there with the patients, what did you tell them and what did they tell you? >> i told them i am so amazed at how strong they are. we met a woman who was shot in the chest. the bullet passed through her lungs. she's having her lungs drained of fluid right now. she has learned that her mother who was with her was shot. that her aunt was shot as well. three family members, all of whom were shot, all of whom are pulling through tonight and these extraordinary nurses and doctors and front-line staff here at university medical center, we're hearing similar things about the staff, those waiting rooms are full of people. i met a woman just now who said

she hadnsn't been able to hear anything about her husband for the last hour. he was shot in the chest. has not been as responsive, but the doctors tell her that he seems to be doing better minute by minute. but i can only imagine what she is feeling right now. and she told me, she told me and amy, she said this has got to change. she said this keeps happening in this country. why is this happening? why do we allow this to happen? her husband and other members of the family and little children were all at a table selling merchandise to raise funds for the soccer team that he coaches. doing something great for their community. never expecting something like this to happen and now pulling for her husband to make it through right now and her kids witnessed the entire thing.

so many families, so many extraordinary people, so much hope in that waiting room right now. so much strength in the individual rooms that we got to be in. again, it makes me just incredibly proud of el paso and of these people, these survivors. but they're als the universal background checks and we should stop selling weapons of war in these communities, but we also have to confront this hatred that i have never seen in my lifetime and we certainly have not seen in el paso. some years in a city of almost 700,000 we had five murders the entire year. our average over the last ten years is 18. we exceeded that average on just one day. this is not normal. it is not acceptable. we cannot move on from this. and the folks that i just met do not want us to move on from

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[ inaudible question ] >> perhaps in a community where it is so rare to learn that somebody has been murdered, one of the least violent places in the united states of america, it owing in some part to the fact that we're a community of immigrants. there are people who have been here for generations, there are people who have been here for a matter of days. all of them contributing to our security and safety. it's really important that the country knows that this is not us. it took somebody from outside of el paso coming in, bringing their hatred and reflecting the hatred and the fear espoused by this president who's trying to teach the country to be afraid of immigrants, who he falsely

blames for violence in our communities or disparages those who do not look like or have the same traditions of faith as the majority of this country. it takes something so foreign to el paso to do something like this in el paso. and the message has to be that more than just changing our laws, which is very important, especially as we get the details about how he acquired this firearm, what his background is, other details about his life. but the level of open hatred and racism and intolerance that we have in this country right now, there's a very real consequence to that that we are seeing all over this country here in el paso, in synagogues and in pittsburgh. i mentioned the mosque in victoria, texas, being burned to the ground. hate crimes on the rise. this did not happen by accident.

we cannot just pretend that this is who we are, our fate, our future, our fortune. this is owing to the rhetoric used by some for political gain, to drive us further apart. to make us afraid. and we got to stand up to it. and you got to provide a much more positive alternative and that alternative to me is the city of el paso. everything that you're seeing right now in response to what has happened here today. thank you. [ inaudible question ] >> i am just so proud of the people of this community. all of those that i just met who were shot, who are pulling through despite terrible injuries, who are there with their families, who are bringing them threw right now. the amazing medical providers who are on the scene. the fact that at our blood banks today, there were too many

people and we had to take reservations for people to come back tomorrow. this community has turned out in an overwhelming showing of love and support and enencouragement. but i'm also hearing from this community that we cannot accept this and allow this to be our fate. and i heard that directly from the family members who have a loved one who's hanging on for dear life right now. i really see this community as we have in so many issues, taking the lead and making sure that we are the counter to not just this violence, but this hatred that produces this violence right now. very, very proud of el paso, of how strong we are and how resilient we are. thank you. appreciate you being here. thank you. >> beto o'rourke former congressman from el paso now presidential candidate back in

his hometown. he was in las vegas. as soon as he heard about this, he tweeted out that he's heading back to be with his family and fellow el pasoans talking about the response to the blood call. we were looking at pictures of people lined up to give blood in el paso. for people who are watching that, if you're in el paso, you know people in el paso and you're saying they got enough blood, i did speak to the ceo of one of the hospitals and he said a number of those patients received mass transfusions because of the nature of their injuries. so in fact it remains important to give blood. but there's been quite a response to that. joining me by phone is former nypd commissioner, an msnbc senior law enforcement analyst. we were speaking earlier in the evening when we had initial information about this. we have a lot more now and one of the things that has become interesting, and i think our

viewers were benefit from your perspective on this, is the idea that this is now being called by local police in el paso saying that it's got a nexus to being a hate crime. there was a posting that alerted the fbi to the idea that there might have been a crime motivated by hate about to take place. how are police supposed to deal with these sorts of things in these days? >> in these days, so much about how police deal with it is dealing with the social media aspects of it. and the manifesto that's been discussed was distributed to one of these websites that anybody who want to spew their hatred, the channel 8 that this was distributed on. the shooting at the synagogue,

that individual spewed his hate on chan 4. so they have the social media capability to spread their hatred and also to be contaminated by it. so for police, it provides a wealth of information after the fact as to motive and it also from time to time steers us toward the individuals who want to commit these kiems types of . if in fact it was distributed by this young man, and right now it seems to be the case, that there was not time to act on it before he walked into that walmart and started killing and injuring all of those people. >> commissioner, we often talk -- i introduced you as an nypd commissioner. you were that twice. you're also boston commissioner

and l.a. pd commissioner. and when you were in l.a., it was the days after 9/11 when this issue of freedom of speech versus national security was in sharp relief, as illustrated by the patriot act. it does seem with politically motivated hate-motivated crimes and what we should be calling domestic terrorism at this point, that conversation is going to come into plan. this guy put something on 8chan that seemed to imply an attack. how do you navigate that world? americans really enjoy their constitutionally protected privacy but the social media and the digital world are becoming the place in which these ideas are communicated. >> one of the unanticipated consequences of the internet was that it was going to connect us all. the idea of the billions of people in the world were going to be connected.

nobody i think anticipated the acceleration of the use of the internet in manifestations with the spread of hatred. the terrorism threat changed from al qaeda to isis, why? because isis had mastered how to use social media to recruit, and so they changed the world of international terrorism. in our own country, increasingly seeing acts of domestic terrorism that are inspired, and in some instances directed, but not frequently, but largely inspired by the ability to in a sense access sites and locations on social media where they can in fact embrace ideas, have

expanded ideas generated that allow this hatred to increase. we're going to hear a lot of talk about what we should be doing about this, gun laws, et cetera, i'm an optimism, but in this issue, unfortunately, i can guarantee two weeks from now, a month from now, six months from now, nothing will change. nothing will change in particular because we're into an election year in the presidential race. and you think that's when things would get done, but i think that's going to compound the inaction that we're going to see. there's going to be no action on the part of our congress. and none of them will take any action as it relates to our gun laws and none of them will take any action as it relates to the ability to control social media because in trying to do that, we run up against what we celebra

first amendment rights. >> what do you make of what we heard from beto o'rourke who says that the rhetoric that we have, he was pointing at the president, but the rhetoric we have, he said, it fundamentally changes the character of this country and it leads to violence? >> the rhetoric has changed, the fundamental nature of this country, starting at the top, the idea that we are constantly attacking each other and more vigorously attacking each other, that's not really new in america. i love reading history. and you go back in time to the 1820s, andrew jackson, leading up to the civil war, we are a country that celebrates our first amendment rights and we use it and abuse it. but it's compounded today by the world we live in, the world of

social media, the ability for anybody to reach out and find others that share their viewpoints and the ability to intimidate and attack sometimes anonymously and other times in a much more significant visible way. and so we're living in extraordinarily dangerous times whether it's the ability to incite, to inspire, and i wish i could say it's going to get better as one of the positive things coming out of these shootings. i think just the opposite. i think so many of these actions are incited by other actions. it now looks as this story is unfolding that this young man may have been inspired by other mass shootings elsewhere around the world. and so how do you control that in this day and age? it's going to bring about a lot of conversation, a lot of thinking about how do we deal

with it, but i don't think based on our experience these last several years with the growth in these mass shootings, we're having one a day now. and now these types of shootings, the former congressman was talking about his city is one of the safest large cities in america. on average has fewer than 18 homicides a year. today in one day, in that city, one of the safest large cities in america, 20 dead. and that's where america is today. 20 dead in one day in one of the safest large cities in america. >> you say we're having one a day, we've exceeded one a day. we're at the 215th day of the year and we've had 249 mass shootings. your outlook is not positive, sir, but i appreciate your honestly. this is not a night to sugar coat what is happening. >> they can offer all the

prayers they want, all the platitudes, all the sympathy, but actions speak louder than words. i think we're going to hear a lot more words and not much action. >> i even heard from reverend al said this is not a time for prayers. prayers without action is meaningless. commissioner, thank you, sir, we will be back with you. we're going to take a quick break. our coverage continues after this. es after this when i walked through a snowstorm for a cigarette, that's when i knew i had to quit.

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there's two of us and one of him. time to work as a team. [ screaming ] in the america we believe in for our children, they will not have to come to school, our elementary, middle, and high school students and endure a drill during which they're taught about how they should crouch in a corner or hide in a closet in the event that there's a mass shooter roaming the

hallways of their school. in the america we believe in, we recognize that this is causing trauma to our babies who should be here learning but are worried about if they're focused on the teacher in the front of the classroom, somebody coming through the door in the back of the classroom might cause them harm. >> kamala harris campaigning in nevada. she has said that she will take executive action in her first hundred days as president if congress doesn't do so. i want to bring in kelly o'donnell who's in new jersey near bedminster where the president is spending the weekend. what's the latest response from the white house? >> reporter: well, it's interesting that the president has issued another tweet about this event and when i say interesting, he's gone a little bit further than the initial reports where he pledged federal resources, talked about speaking

with the governor of texas and the attorney general and in this case he is saying today's shooting in el paso was not only tragic, it was an act of cowardice. there are no reasons or excuses that will justify killing innocent people. melania and i send our prayers to the great people of texas. why that stands out, ali, is the president is going to motivation and intent on the part of the suspect here and that is moving his sort of commentary a bit further. when we spoke earlier in the day, we were talking about how this would eventually get to an analysis of causes, motivations, could there be a political sentiment behind this or something that might in any way tie into the president and it seems the president is trying to get a bit in front of this to say that he feels strongly, that no philosophy or point of view could ever justify this kind of

hateful act of violence and he of course called it cowardice. so in addition to perhaps the more predictable part of a presidential response providing resources and help, thoughts and prayers, the president is really giving us a sense of saying that whatever was in the mind of this gunman, and now it is sometimes unusual in these cases that the gunman has survived and will stand trial, so there would be a lot of examination of his motivations, writings, the president trying to be a bit more clear by getting out in front of it. that is noteworthy tonight. the president is perhaps watching some of the coverage and felt the need to say that. earlier in the day, the vice president expressed his concern for the families of those who have been affected by this. also expressing concern for

those first responders who are going through all of the difficult work. but this is notable from president trump to speak of an act of cowardice. if it's learned that the manifesto, if there's some political link to that, the president is putting himself at some distance from whatever ideology might be involved with this particular gunman. as we've talked about, the president is here in new jersey for the weekend. it would be typical for the president if he wishes to say something on the camera, the most likely time for him to do that would be late tomorrow afternoon as he's heading back to washington at the airport where the assigned press pool, a smaller group of our collection of journalists would be able to talk to him about these issues and undoubtedly, there would be questions about motivation and the president's sense about gun laws and regulations and so

forth. and we saw after the events in las vegas with that concert shooting, the president took a position on bump stocks. f there were any executive actions the president could say. we may see him speak more about this tweet and calling out the alleged gunman for cowardice and saying nothing can justify the killing of these innocent victims. >> thank you, kelly. we're going to take a quick break. our coverage will continue after this. they make everything better. like our strawberry poppyseed salad and new strawberry summer caprese salad. order online for delivery. panera. food as it should be (groans) hmph... (food grunting menacingly) when the food you love doesn't love you back, stay smooth and fight heartburn fast

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we're here at the bottom of the hour with continuing coverage of the fatal shooting in el paso, texas, this morning. officials there say 20 people were killed, 26 injured when a gunman opened fire at a walmart

supercenter genetadjacent to a shopping maul. >> we were just school shopping for my girl because next week school is going to be starting. so we were at journeys and they told us to go in the back of the room and the next thing they were saying was that there's an active shooter. >> we never expected it to happen. it's something really shocking to me. i'm scared, to be honest. >> i got all of the people i could. i found a little girl who was missing from her parents and i tried to get as many people as i could out. >> hundreds of people lined up to donate blood after the police department tweeted urgent calls for donations to help for surgeries. the 21-year-old gunman is in custody. the suspect has posted an anti-immigrant essay on line about 25 minutes before the shooting. nbc reports that law enforcement was aware of the posting and are investigating it.

clinton watts is a former fbi special agent and a security analyst. this creditsing scourge on our country that is white nationalism and domestic terrorism, and for some reason, not only do we not do much about this, but he doesn't believe we're going to get any closer to doing anything about it as a result of what happened today? >> yeah, he's right. it takes leadership wanting to do something about it. if we're looking at it in terms of frequency, we have to give the fbi more resources, manpower and more room to go after these individuals. we're -- it's an obvious and clear pattern at this point in terms of how they congregate online. and the only way to really tackle that is very

resources-intensive, human intelligence. you got to put people in those places to try to figure out what's going on. the fbi is really the only agency that can do that on scale and you saw director wray last week talk about basically 100 disruptions already i think within the last year and the fbi is moving on these things. they've done a good jobover disrupting it. even in the case of this man today, in his manifesto, he talked about how he just planned this attack quite recently. he was probably further inspired by the attack in gilroy just a week ago. this tends to create a contagion that we've talked about on msnbc where one inspired attack oftentimes leads to two or three

other inspired people move to do an attack based on the relative success of theth, that really t aggressive intelligence-led law enforcement operations being on these social media platforms, working with the companies to try to figure out ways to identify precursors to this activity. >> 24 minutes between his first attempt at posting this thing and it was an unsuccessful attempt first. it was a few minutes later he tried a again and the first phone call to 911. if we're going to have a more aggressive approach to these cascading domestic terrorism attacks, the public is going to have to be on board with that. we have this fine line to walk between not promoting, not encouraging, not spreading the hatred that these people spread when they post these things before they commit these acts

and letting people understand how serious domestic terrorism has become. >> we've been through this before after 9/11 we moved very aggressively. if you look at the era of inspired terrorism where he especially was projecting into the u.s. audience base, new attacks at home, don't come to us, which is really around 2009 and '11, we moved very aggressively. the obama administration was putting together a plan and we did that very aggressively around the al qaeda and isis threats. we never -- even in the obama administration when this was starting to percolate and now we're really hitting the crescendo of these attacks and we put a lot of energy into that. and i think that takes leadership on capitol hill to step up and say we have to do something about this.

we're going to put resources towards this. we're going to work with you about responsible legislation and we're not going to bury our heads in the sand and act like it's not happening. >> the thing is others have told me if we did have that view of it, if we took that aggressive view, we could solve it. it's an idea that somebody said earlier to me, if it was 19 or 20 people who had been killed by ebola, it would have been solved. we seem to have the ability to create a disincentive to do this kind of thing. >> we don't at the political leadership level. i think even at the constitutional level, though -- >> yes. >> i don't know.

>> is there any indication he considered any other locations beside this? >> no his motives and what transpired is being investigated. i can't comment to that because number one, i don't know that, number two, it's part of an active investigation. there might be a summary when it's complete. in the near future, we'll be commenting on the specifics of it. >> and did the suspect just turn himself in or did you identify him prior to the engagement? >> i couldn't tell you. >> were there any other weapons besides the rifle. >> that i know of, no. [ inaudible question ] >> i have no information of the investigation occurring in dallas. is there -- >> my name is sergeant robert gomez. last name g-o-m-e-z.

this will be our last brief here until tomorrow. there will not be another brief throughout the night. any information will be tomorrow possibly in the morning, but i -- i'm not specific on any specific time when that will be available. >> thank you. >> some of us can't get in here. can you repeat some -- >> okay, so that was -- >> still some people who occupy that space because they believe it's it's unmonitored space and they practice their first amendment rights and that's okay. >> yeah, it is okay. and it's great that they have those forums, but those forums have to realize, you know, those that create them and those who police them, once, extremist fs

get pushed off the main platforms, facebook, twitter, they go to the platforms that are the most anonymous with the least set of rules that are the least policed. if you rewind over the past five years, isis initially descended on telegram because that was the place to go to communicate and not get caught. if you look at what's going on with white supremacy, that was the one that popped up. 8chan has popped up pretty continually. not everybody on these platforms is up to something bad. but bad people tend to go to these anonymous platforms where they can post and they know they're probably not being s surveilled or tracked. and they know these companies have very few resources to police the activity that's on them. >> clint, thank you as ouls fal

for your ideas. with me now is cedric alexander. he's a law enforcement analyst. thank you for joining us. all of this information that we now have, much more than we had a few hours ago about the potential motivation of this attacker, the fact that he posted it, the fact that this appears to be -- it's moving in a direction that is pointing towards white nationalism and democracy terrorism, would any of that change the police response? they learned that something was going to happen 24 minutes before it happened. >> there's certainly no way within 24 minutes and sometimes even within 24 hours to be able to respond quickly enough. but if we just look at this scenario that we just

experienced here in this nation today and one more recent, we go back and we look at a history of these type of attacks that's associated with hate i think the evidence is there, certainly, as your prior guests have already mentioned, the evidence is there that we certainly need to put more emphasis, more funding into our federal partners so that they can have the resources and all of the necessary assets, technology logically, to try intervene as quickly as we can. to be perfectly honest with you, in a real situation such as what we saw today, 24 minutes is going to be virtually impossible for anyone to respond to, to be able to identify that site, the target to be able to intervene. what we do know and what you have seen over the years as i have is that when these messages are sent out, we learn about

them later. we have growing problem that's going to have to be addressed by this nation. as your guests have stated before, we cannot hide from it, we cannot act like it's not occurring because sadly and unfortunately, this very well may happen again and it can happen in any american city, on any given day, in any given time. right there in el paso, texas, people doing their school shopping, that's normal. 20 people lose their lives. dozens of people are severely injured and the trauma that's going to be associated with the effects of that attack by those who had to run for their lives such as we just saw a few days ago, this is becoming way too commonplace and it's going to be up on our elected officials across this nation on both sides of the aisle to now take a very aggressive approach and to do

one that is not going to be politicalized but going to makeg sure that our federal agencies are funded and his staff, local law enforcement, state law enforcement can share information and be able to move as quickly as we can. the art of this is not going to be can we respond in 24 minutes. the art of this is going to be how can we prevent the next attack. what are things that we can begin to have new conversations, now thought about? maybe things we have not thought about. but we cannot -- this nation, no nation and certainly the united states of america, we cannot sustain this type of event to go on in just -- from one to the other, we come and pray and we do this and do that, but nothing changes. something has to change.

that means the leadership across this nation from the federal level to the local level, we have to partner both sides of the aisle is going to have to get this message and get it very clear. american people are looking for something different to happen. they need to see something, they need to hear something, and they need to be able to feel that they're going to be safe. and we all -- all of us as citizens that walk around this country every day, ali, we all certainly got to pay attention to our surroundings. and we've been asking americans to do that, they have been doing it, but, yet, these attacks occur. so we got to be able to do more and i really just implore as someone who's spent a great part of my life in public safety, i just implore upon all of us as americans in this country, we got to move towards doing something and have a very different conversation and having it now and putting some actions behind the words because

just as sure as i'm sitting here talking to you and millions americans across this country, this can very well happen again at any moment, anywhere, any time, ali. >> some version of this is happening more than once a day. we are on day 215 of the year and we're on the 249th mass shooting of the year. thank you very much. cedric alexander. our coverage of the tragedy in el paso will continue on msnbc just after this. ♪ corey is living with metastatic breast cancer, which is breast cancer that has spread to other parts of her body. she's also taking ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor, which is for postmenopausal women or for men with hr+ / her2- metastatic breast cancer as the first hormonal based therapy. ibrance plus letrozole was significantly more effective at delaying disease progression versus letrozole.

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their guns legally. >> yeah, ali. the senator from california, he's one of 19 here, democrats in the state, they addressed a labor union group this afternoon. the senator is here with us now. you just wrapped up an event here at an elementary school and ali was talking about some of the proposals you have put forward for executive actions. but there was one line that caught me, one of the most powerful tools that's out there is that of the microphone of the president of the united states. >> it means that one of the greatest powers of the president of the united states is to be an opinion leader and to set a tone, but also to reflect the values of who we are as a nation and to reflect the aspirations that we have as a nation. and we have seen this president go to the lowest form of every possible issue and in many ways,

i believe defile the office of the president. and so i shared with the group here that it is my full intention to use that microphone in a way that is reflective of who we truly are and i believe the greatest strength of the president is demonstrated not by who you beat down but who you lift up. >> you've been in the u.s. senate now for more than two years. the house passed some background check bills this year. they haven't seen their chance to be voted on by the senate. these conversations have taken place for years now. but to folks, what is going to make that change take place? >> i don't know. there are a lot of good ideas. i support them, but we don't lack for good ideas. what we lack is for congress to act and so i'm prepared when elected to give the united states congress a hundred days to put a bill on my desk for signature. if they don't, i'm prepared to

take executive action and put in place a comprehensive background check retirement and to ban the importation of assault weapons and to require the atf to take gun licenses if needed. i was in colorado yesterday, we're not waiting for a tragedy. we've seen the worst of human tragedies. we saw it in gilroy last week and we saw it in el paso today. >> a neighbor not far from where you grew up there, when you saw the news here out of el paso today, what went through your thoughts and hearing the young girl who said there was a threat of her own school and being concerned about showing up. when you see these, what is your emotion? >> pain. and my pain doesn't compare to the pain of the family members of these victims, but pain that

we have not as leaders, you know, that people who are leaders have not acted and that children are suffering. to be very frank with you, that's where my head goes and that's where my heart goes. our children are scared. they are frightened. they go to school and they have to endure a drill where they learn about how they have to crouch in a corner in case there's a mass shooter roaming the hallways of their school. and i have met so many children who talk about their fear of going to school, their fear of a mass shooting. in gilroy, california, it is a tradition in california, the gilroy garlic festival, for generations families have been going there and that children have to be worried about one of the summer traditions of going to a community event that it's going to be shot up, going to a

movie theater it might be shot up. going shopping on a weekend on a saturday. we have to act and the adults of our country have to act. >> what is your message to president trump and republicans in congress? >> have the encourage to act. do something. do something. because when i'm elected president, i'm going to do something. that's my message. >> senator, thank you. ali? >> thanks very much. vaughn hillyard in las vegas talking with kamala harris. i want to go to mexico city. cal perry has been standing by. he's reporting from the border for a long time. one of the most interesting things about today, if there are any silver linings and there really aren't many today, is the number of people who responded to the call of help, the one thing people can do in an instance like this is to give blood. >> absolutely. and of course the first

responders. i just think about the scene inside that walmart. texas is an open carry state. not only can you open carry in texas, you can carry guns in walmart which also sells guns. imagine being a first responder, going into walmart, not a place like new york city, having to detail that scene. and the community really coming together not just those blood drives which we've heard so much about, so many donations that the el paso police department has asked people to stop bringing food and water. they say they have enough. the downside, el paso has found itself in the spotlight when it comes to migration and it does again. we know there are still family members separated who may be afraid to reach out to law enforcement. they need to talk to the hope border institute. we continue to talk about this as an international story. at least three mexican nationals killed.

another six wounded. that number will likely rise. they've been deploying crews to el paso, a place that they view as a country with a very significant gun problem. around the world you see people starting to react. and, look, tomorrow, the international media will descend on el paso. >> thank you for your great reporting tonight from mexico city and for your great reporting to create context around the story on the mexican border with america. i want to bring in our own el paso native to give us a sense of what this means in this city. since we've talked earlier, we have learned more about the fact that the shooter appears to have been a white nationalist and this does appear to be an instance of domestic terrorism. and he targeted el paso, because el paso represents what he doesn't like about what's happening to his country. >> and it's hurtful, you know.

there's shock, sadness and then there's anger. and when you hear that that's possibly the motive, it makes it all the worse. el paso, texas, is a wonderful place. we've before hearing all day about how people have lined up to help when they can. we've heard about the first responders that went in, the people who have lined up to donate blood. we've heard about the people who have purchased pizza for the people who are the first responder and for the people who have lined up to donate blood. we've heard about the volunteers who have come as a all hands on deck situation. there are people at the hospitals that came on on their day off and rushed in to help, those who were in need of dire medical attention. we're here for el paso and it's a tough day, ali, i got to say. >> phil, thank you.

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