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shortly before the rampage. we're never going to survive their firepower. we also want to take you to we're going to need cars... dayton, ohio, right now, where and guns. you can see an active scene oh i can handle that part. where nine people have been killed on a saturday night. one suspect neutralized and i got your back brother. and me yours. killed by police, by multiple [ laughing ] [ screaming ] police officers, according to dayton police. there in dayton, ohio, we are dealing with at least 16 people injured. we do not know the extent of the injuries. no law enforcement officials have been injured in this case. they were already on scene for the night for a night that was supposed to be full of live music, clubbing, and revelry. the police say this is a very safe neighborhood and called the oregon district in downtown dayton, and the shooting happened all outside. 21 medic team were dispatched to deal with the horrific scene there and police say it was a very short time line of violence there on the scene.

we want to bring in shawn henry, a national security analyst from msnbc. he's on the phone bus. shawn, thank you for joining us. what happened here? how are you digesting this breaking new right now? >> obviously, this is still developing and a lot of information will be coming out, you know? when we look at things like this, certainly going back to el paso you have the manifesto and law enforcement officers trying to seek what is the objective and the motivation of the shooter. in this particular case, it's still unclear. we don't have any information about what may have caused the shooter. was it some type of a conflict between two patron that got out of hand? good morning, i'm jo ling was it some type of gang-related kent at msnbc world incident, perhaps a jilted headquarters. you're watching breaking news lover, or somebody who was upset with their partner or their coverage. 6:00 a.m. out east and 3:00 a.m. spouse? or was this something that was out west.

here's what we know right now. there have been two mass preplanned in a manner that shootings in the u.s. in less appears to be consistent with what we saw in el paso? than 24 hours. one is the deadliest this year. in less than one day, at least law enforcement officers here 29 people were killed separately in two states. ohio and texas. responding. their first instinct is to get in and identify the shooter and, at least 42 people in this case, apparently, neutralize the shooter. the investigation will be seeking, at this point, to try to determine what the objective or the motivation of this shooter was. there has been an awful lot of investigation to be done here. >> shawn, when you hear, according to police, that the shooter used a long gun and targeted an area that was full of people outside on a saturday night, how to you interpret that? >> well, that is certainly a different fact that i didn't have at the moment. certainly that is indicative of a preplanned, premeditated

attack. similar to what we saw in el paso. somebody that arrives at a scene with a long gun. they have got heavy weaponry, many, many round. their intent is to inflict as much harm as possible and the damage -- to cause damage and carnage throughout a wide area. in this particular case, when you've got somebody who comes -- if it's an instructor, somebody who is in a position to create as much damage as possible. not necessarily looking for a particular subject or a particular individual, but widespread and -- yeah. >> we know that the police say they were able to respond in a very short time line of violence. that is a direct quote from the police press conference given moments ago. the lieutenant there saying they

were training for many, many years for this to happen. now they are grappling with at least nine dead, at least 16 injured in dayton, ohio. are all police departments across the country ready for this? >> police agencies across the country have been training for this for more than a decade. when i was with the fbi in our washington field office, we would train regularly and police agencies would train not only among themselves, but they would train with neighboring police agencies because when you have an incident like this where you've got multiple casualties, they train for multiple shooters, you work with the agency, with federal and state agencies. they all work in a collaborative way because you're going to have to use as many resources as possible to respond to that particular situation. it's unfortunate, but they absolutely are training for this on a regular basis.

not only law enforcement agencies themselves, but with other first responders, with hospital systems, with the fire department, with communication systems to ensure from a tactical expert, they are very clear on what their response is but also how they communicate with each other, how they move people in under cover -- under cover so that they can extract injured. and those that have been harmed. it's widespread and a comprehensive type of a response and it's unfortunate that this is the type of training that law enforcement officer are now conducting on a regular basis. >> shawn, before we get to the next question here, i want to update folk who are tuning in to this breaking news out of dayton, ohio. this mass shooting, the second mass shooting within 24 hours here in the u.s. occurred just after 1:00 a.m. it was an active shooter in the

oregon district of dayton, ohio. police are aware of one shooter so far. the shooter is deceived frased gunshot wound. multiple officers took down this shooter. nine victims have been killed, at least 16 have been hospitalized. and police are working on identifying the suspect. the fbi is also on the scene right now assisting law enforcement and we also know that the shooting happened outside. this is a popular area for going out in dayton, ohio. we were tag lking to a witness earlier who were aware of el paso but did not think this would happen in the oregon district in dayton. police say a long gun was used and no officers were injured in the response. they tell us, too, this was a short time line of violence, that the police were already in the area patrolling what was

supposed to be a great saturday night and they have been training for this for many, many years. we are joined -- we continue to be joined by shawn henry. shawn, i want to ask you what is the likelihood, given your fbi background here, that this was a copy cat situation given what happened in el paso and now dayton? >> certainly we would be speculating to say that. it's unclear. there just aren't enough fact. i think that when we some of these mass shootings that we have seen in the past couple of years, they certainly seem to be inspired by acts that have occurred previously. when you see the similarity in the attack, the weapons that are being used, the randomness of some of these attacks and who the actual victims are. the sense within our communities

that this is almost permissive. and it really is quite troubling from a law enforcement perspective to see the frequency of these types of attacks, the apparent randomness in the way the attacks are carried out and the number of victims. regardless of where you are, we have seen attacks in a synagogue, we have seen attacks in churches, we have seen attacks at fast food restaurants, at malls. these are the types of place that people expect to be safe and secure where people go with their families and where we have grown up and expect to be in an environment that is safe and secure and to see these types of acts occurring like this is very troubling, certainly, from not only a law enforcement perspective but as a citizen of the united states. >> shawn, i want to thank you for your perspective and i'd like to you stand by as we continue to bring you breaking news on on this shooting in dayton, ohio. we want to turn to elizabeth

long, a spokesperson for kettering health network. you guys are receiving the injured. elizabeth, i am so sorry for what has happened. >> thank you very much. obviously, this has been a very tragic event in the city of dayton, but as -- as our police have said, it could have been worse. >> tell me what the extent of the injuries are. we know at least 16 people, according to police, have been injured. what kind injuries are they grappling with here this morning? >> what i can tell you at kettering health network, at least nine people were brought into three of our hospitals. we know two were treat and released. i'm still working to get information on the conditions of the others. i don't know the extent of the injuries. obviously, we have treated

people with gunshot wound, but i don't know what other injuries there might be. >> elizabeth, tell me at kettering health network and your three hospitals, how prepared were you for a situation like this? >> in conjunction with first responders, including police and fire and the other hospitals in the area, kettering health network and we are a nine hospital health system, we train regularly for situations such as these. we have what we call the active shooter trainings where we inundate our e.r.s with patient to see how much we can handle. so we are always training for this and we are always ready for patients who come through our doors. >> elizabeth, tell me about the community there, what you know about this oregon district in downtown dayton. we have been hearing from a

witness who said is a popular place to go out. it was absolutely stunning for him to witness his friend falling on a saturday night in a mass shooting. >> the oregon district is just a wonderful place to be in downtown dayton and it is full of life. there's a lot to and do there. a lot of great restaurants, a lot of place to sit outside and enjoy good food and companionship. it's generally a safe place, so we are so fortunate to have a police department that was able to respond like they did. >> the police tell us in their press conference that it was a very short time line of violence because they were already there on scene patrolling for the evening for what was supposed to be a regular saturday night.

did you get that sense as well when the victims were transported? were they transported quickly? tell me about those -- the minute that followed 1:22 a.m. >> i cannot talk about specifics about that. i do know that, you know, first responder were on the scene and i believe that some people may have come to the hospital on their own, but i don't have specific details. >> can you give us a quick recap? at least 16 people have been injured, according to dayton police, and how many people are you treating there at kettering health network? >> we are treating at least nine people at three of our hospitals and at least two people were treated and released. >> all right. elizabeth long, spokesperson for kettering health network, we wish you all of our strength

here as you grapple with these injury and treat the victims. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >> to recap, we are dealing breaking news in dayton, ohio. nine people have been killed and 16 hurt. the injuries as you heard from a hospital on spokesperson, we do not know the extent of the injuries, but this is a downtown area, the oregon district of dayton, ohio, where folks were out for the night trying to have a good time and listening to live music, according to one witness. police say it was a long gun that was used by one shooter. that suspect is now dead. nine people were killed, at least 16 injured. the officers say that there were no law enforcement officials injured. they were already on the scene to deal with a regular saturday night out and they had to deal with this horrific situation.

listen to what police had to say just a little bit ago. >> we had multiple officers in the immediate vicinity when this incident started, so there is a very short time line of violence. for that, we are very fortunate. this was all an exterior event and occurred outside. >> reporter: any description of the shooter? >> not yet. the shooter is deceivased and w are still interviewing, obviously, a lot of witnesses, as well as officers, to try to determine if anybody else was involved. >> what type of weapon was used? >> it was a long gun. no officers were injured. nine dead, plus the suspect, so ten dead on east fifth street and 16 that we are aware of hospitalized. >> you're listening to the dayton police there recapping a

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good morning. i'm jo ling kent with kendis gibson. the second deadly mass shooting in 24 hours of the year. we already know what is happening right now in downtown dayton, ohio. we are talking about at least

nine people dead, 16 people injured and the suspect has been neutralized and killed by dayton police. multiple officers taking down the suspect. this happened at around 1:22 this morning at a popular clubbing area in the oregon district where many people go out for dinner and live music. we do know that no officer have been injured because they were already on scene. they were able to respond, kendis, so quickly to the scene because they were already there. >> because it is a popular area and popular with many people who are out there to the clubs and restaurants and many of the bars. are you waking up right now at 5:22 a.m. eastern time and you're wondering these are imagines from texas from yesterday. no. this is another morning in america and this is yet another mass shooting. the second mass shooting within less than 24 hours in this

country. nine people dead in dayton, ohio. at least 16 others injured in a popular hiic district in that city. but, of course, we are also covering the other major story that was taking place just less than 24 hours ago. at 10:00 a.m. central time in el paso, more than a dozen people were killed while they were there at a busy walmart in el paso. the imagines that we have seen from there have been absolutely horrific and the stories that have been coming out have been tremendous and terrible as well. >> we also know a little bit more about the weapons used in el paso. we know according to police a ak 47. a someone-year-old suspect who posted an essay that explained some of his motivation in pursuing this shooting. meanwhile, in dayton, ohio, according to police, we know it was a long gun that the suspect was using there on the scene. nine people dead, 16 people

injured in dayton, ohio. i talk with a witness who was there, anthony reynolds, who was there and he got his eye on the suspect. >> you're talking about the dayton one? we do not want to confuse because the photos we are seeing right now are from texas. that is what we are watching and dayton that eyewitness described a different scene. >> exactly. what you're looking at right now are pictures from yesterday. 20 dead and 26 injured at a walmart in el paso. this comes just a few days after another walmart shooting. >> let me bring in jim kavanagh. we were just talking 12 hours or so and talking about that texas incident where we had the 20 people killed and 26 others injured, many of them some young children. you are the reports it was an ak-47 used there in texas and we are told, i believe jo ling was

hearing reports this morning of another sort of rifle was used. >> a long gun. >> that was used in this morning's shooting. what do you make of all of this, jim? >> as we talked yesterday at length about texas, a long gun, methodical mass murder when you're walking through a store, unarmed citizens and shoppers on back-to-school day and methodical mass murder. you can hear the shots. they are aimed and they are pointed and in the tapes you played yesterday, you could hear it and we analyzed it. this is a methodical mass murder. a man who drove nine hours. he probably had this plot planned a month or so after we read his racial screen. he is the ultimate coward as these guys are. they get on the internet. maybe some personal contact. certainly surfing all of these hate message board and

influenced by, you know, agents of influence from neonazi style hatred. so he has, you know, time to on kill and there is nothing to stop him until, you know, patrol officers get there within five or six minute. this is a good response time. el paso pd get there, they are able to confront him and arrest him. was he out of ammo? we don't know. the photographs we know of stills coming into the store. his cargo shorts, you might have that picture up, nbc might have cleared some of those photos, but his cargo short look packed with magazines. he has got on shooter's hearing protection and shooter's eye protection. we have not seen mass shooters dressed quite that way. we have seen them in tactical gear and bullet-proof vests. the virginia beach mass shooter that we talked about a few weeks

ago, you know, he had a silencer for an advantage. whenever a mass killer gets an advantage, he can kill more. this is one of the most -- event we saw unfold in el paso. i think 20 dead and 26 more wounded. please, let's not forgot the wounded in all of these cases. >> yes. >> these wound are devastating. >> they absolutely are. we can't also forgot the gilroy shooting that took place last week. it has been quite a week in america. clint van zandt, if you're on the line with us right now and listening to all of this and seeing this all develop. the question to you and i'm not sure if you have the answer to it but what the heck is going on in this country at this particular time? have you ever seen a period like this where we have had four mass shootings, deadly mass shootings within a week and two within less than 24 hours?

if you're in law enforcement, what are you thinking? >> we don't have clint. jim kavanagh, same question to you. >> we are in a new period in america. we are in a period that is controlled by, you know, weak-knee politicians. an america designed in the last 25 to 30 years by gun lobby. they have controlled the congress and pushed since, you know, probably since 1986 the firearms owners protection act. we are concerned with our firearms owners getting all of the perfect treatment rather than this stuff. this is the america they have shaped with their control of the congress and this is it. we also have no action in the congress, no debates on the senate floor. they won't talk about anything. they keep everything down. so what happens to the debates

on hate message board and it's being fueled. so that is one thing. we are in a place where the contagion of these events keeps rolling forward. >> jim kavanagh, we appreciate your insight this early morning hours after yet another shooting. yes, we are covering the incident that took place in texas in el paso yesterday morning. 20 dead and 26 injured and jo, you've been on the early morning hours capturing what happened at 2:00 a.m. or 1:00 a.m. this morning in dayton, ohio, as well. >> what we know so far, nine people dead in dayton, ohio. 16 injured and the suspect was neutralized and killed by multiple police officers who were already on scene for what was supposed to be a great night, going out on a saturday night in the oregon district of dayton, ohio. the shooter has been killed. 21 medical teams responding to a

horrific situation there. very short time line of violence because they were already there on scene. i just spoke with a hospital spokesperson where they received about nine of the injured across their three hospitals. the spokes women said they do not have an update on injuries that are sure to be devastating at this particular time. the shooter is dead. the shooter, according to dayton police, used a long gun in the oregon district of downtown, ohio. police say this is normally a very safe area. i spoke with one of the witnesses, anthony reynolds who was on the scene there this morning, and he told me he was aware of what had happened in el paso when he went out with his friend. yet, just a few hours later, he was running, he was ducking and going the other way and he saw one of his friend get shot and fall to the ground. truly a horrific, unimaginable scene that just keeps on playing out. we are going to keep you posted on all of the developments coming right now. we have a lot of breaking news

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good morning. i'm jo ling kent, along with kendis gibson here this morning in new york at msnbc world headquarters. it's 5:30 a.m. in the east and 3:30 out west. two mass shootings in the u.s. less than 24 hours and one is the deadliest this year. in less than a day, at least 29

people were killed separately in two states, ohio and texas. at least 42 people wounded. some fighting for their lives right now. all too familiar secenes of carnage across this country and one of the targets, families doing their family shopping. the other was a crowded night spot. >> not to be confused with the latest mass shooting that took place in downtown dayton this morning. the historic district called oregon district. this taking place around 1:00 in the morning. a gunman opening fire, killing at least nine people, injuring at least 16 others. police say the suspect was using what they described as a long gun and that he was killed by police officers who were there on normal patrol duties at the scene. no officers were injured and official are now trying to identify the suspect. police updating us moments ago. >> we had multiple officers in

the immediate vicinity when this incident started, so is there a very short time line of violence. for that, we are very fortunate. this was all an exterior event and it auld occurred outside. >> any description of the shooter? >> not yet. the shooter is deceased and we still -- we are still interviewing, obviously, a lot of witnesses, as well as officers, to try to determine if anybody else was involved. >> reporter: what type of weapon was used? >> it was a long gun. no officers were injured. nine dead, plus the suspect. so ten dead on east fifth street, and 16 that we are aware of hospitalized in unknown condition. >> we also spoke with a witness who was there. listen to how he described that scene. >> we hear a shot.

like, we just hear -- like hear like a gunshot but we didn't think it was a gunshot because not used to that and multiple gunshots and it was a repetitive ray of gunshots. my friend was behind me. i'm telling him to come on and they shoot and i turn around and you see body falling in line and you hear screaming' the chaotic, you know, the mob of people running and even just became a frantic situation. >> anthony, i am so sorry you've had to witness this. i'd like to know, cud for us what this neighborhood is like on a normal night? >> it's live band, nightclub atmosphere. it's bars. just a lot of middle class, working class people, college students. it's very peaceful. oregon is one of dayton's historic districts and we spend a lot of time down there and we cherish that area, so we usually don't have any incidents. >> anthony, i know that police

have just told us they were able to respond very quickly because they were already out there on patrol for what was supposed to be a fun regular saturday night. how quickly did you see law enforcement respond to this awful situation? >> i can honestly say that law enforcement were prompt. they are usually down there with heavy presence in the oregon district on saturdays. it's usually peaceful because of it. but, at that point, they responded quickly. i can't say, per se, you know, what i seen any of them do because i was just kind of running. so but i know for sure they got him down and at least within a minute or it wasn't too long. >> anthony, did you see the shooter? >> yes. heavy-set white man, black attire. he had a face covering up but you could see the top of his head. >> let's bring in jim kavanagh, retired atf special agent in

charge and msnbc terrorism analyst. good morning to you, jim. i want to know, as you digest what has happened the last 24 hour, why is this happening? >> we are just in a place in america where we have gone back to, i would call it, you know, the '60s. we are back in a time when i went on the police in '70s and was a young criminology student at the turn of the decade in the 'six, the civil rights era was just fresh in our face. the assassinations of president kennedy and dr. king and we all saw that up heaval in america. hatred, the bigotry, the murders, you know, and the country was rebelling against it with the civil rights act. when i started on the police and really we seem to be going back

to that era and it's ununbelievable. i never thought we would. when we went through the '70s and '80s, the country was with us against this hate. it really had changed. i mean, everybody was so revolted by it. it also brings me back to just post, you know, the oklahoma city bombing with timothy mcveigh. the country rebelled and rejected then in a good way that murder and hatred of federal employees and we had been dealing with that for -- from anti-government militia for quite a while and the country said, no, you can't have this. the militias began to fade away because they were left as evil. now we are sort of back and we are sort off on a curve. its look like the stock market. it's coming back and it's really sad to see in america the fact that, you know, we saw it come back in the rhetoric and so many

public sphere and immigrant attacks and the talk we used to hear was all hidden in these hate circles. now it's out in the open. it's the same talk. it hasn't changed at all. it really is unbelievable the things you hear that is considered to be just hatred. >> i want to know here -- we have facts here and i'd love for you to walk us through them and what you can ascertain from them. we know in dayton, ohio on, we are dealing with an individual who used a long gun, according to police. police were on the scene and able to respond very quickly. but given nine dead, at least 16 injured, a long gun and the suspect being dead, this happening within 24 hours of el paso, what does that tell you? >> i'd say it's contagion. this is a contagion act, i would say. we are given a little forward analysis here. we don't have the motive but,

you know, the word copycat i don't like and it's cheap and it seems like somebody did something and went out and did it. it's not really what happens. it's someone who is already maybe involved and cal calculated into a thought process in this case, if it turns out to be a motive of hatred and bigotry and it's somebody already in that sphere and that mindset on that website and a member of that groups, if that is the case. this is a random street shooting in dayton, ohio. who is person attacking with a long gun? you're attacking just citizens. are these citizens going to turn out to be sis of a certain race or denomination? if that is the case he is attacking them because of their race. it's not someone who just saw a shooting and said i'm going to be a bigot too and kill everybody. it's someone who is already into that mindset, if that happens.

>> we know that there was the gilroy garlic shooting and we also know there is el paso. now there is dayton, ohio. in your former capacity, how would you be connecting the dots here? walk us through what happens behind the scenes as you look for answers. >> well, you look right to the -- the first thing, you look to the killer, the shooter, themselves. if they are deceased like in the gilroy garlic festival, you're looking at their postings, their writings, their statements. that killer made a statement during the shooting that he was angry and then his subsequent postings proved that he was, you know, attacking immigrants. he had a lot of vicious racial hatred against immigrants in gilroy. the same thing we have seen from the screen written by the shooter in el paso who is alive and an interesting fact.

but we know -- we try to make -- we -- i'm not saying we try. we should not try to make the motive a mystery when the person is actually telling us the motive. they are telling the motive in their screen and they are telling the motive from their statements and they are saying why they did it. also we can ascertain motive from the targeting and, you know, from the equipment unhow -- we also had a shooting this week at the walmart in south haven, mississippi. >> right. >> two dead and a police officer wounded in his vest. another person wounded but it was a workplace shooting. the person was there 25 years, was fired on a friday, came back and his motive was revenge, a workplace shooting. a revenge motive. these other motives are hate motives. that is what we are dealing with now. the contagion is hate motive

now, not hate motives. >> thank you, jim kavanagh. i want you to stay with us and we will speak with a witness on the phone. >> you spoke with the witness err morning and anthony reynolds is joining us on the phone. can you hear us, anthony? >> i can. >> i imagine it is starting to sink in, all that you saw and all you that know about the situation. but take us back. where were you? what happened? what did you see? what did you experience? >> yeah. i was actually walking right out of the club. at 1:05, i was leaving out of ned pepper's bar because i have to be at work at 6:00 a.m., so me and my buddy, we were leaving and we were laughing and ed we should have left at 1:30 because we were having a good time and when we left out of the club, a lot of people still trying to get into the bar. so it was just like a normal night in oregon. a packed crowd and everybody having a good time. by the time i walked by the end that have line that was going

into the club i looked across the street and found another crowd of a line of food cart where popular food cart was out there. you heard the gunshots but you don't know exactly where it's coming from at first because there are buildings down there so echo. you heard a second gunshot so we automatically looked back and you could seem the heavy set man and white man and all black attire and you could see the gun. my friend is behind me and i was running and my friend is behind me. i tell him to come on. when i turn around you can see the people in the line get hit by the gunfire. once people see people get hit, the crowd went crazy and everybody start to get frantic and running and realize this is -- he is shooting a lot of bullets. >> anthony, describe the sound for me. was it in rapid succession? how did it sound? >> the initial gunshot was boom!

boom! then boom boom boom boom! and after that, it was like, man. you don't pay attention any more easement we see many of the shell casings there for people who are listening on the radio, several we see from the new pictures right now. anthony, you had as you were running, you can see behind you different people collapsing, possibly being shot. >> yes. >> were any of your friends? >> it was one d o-- one guy, hi mother was murdered down there. she was in the crowd, so you know. >> his mother was murdered? >> yes. his child's mother was murdering. they just had baby and celebrating. >> oh, my god. >> and i just noticed that she was murdered. she was like 22, 23 years old. >> wow. >> have you spoken with him? >> i spoke with people around him. i was kind of shook up myself.

i mean, just -- you look at this stuff on tv. we were just watching the stuff in texas and see the shooting and the debate over the shooting and we see talking points so we get confused about a lot of things. then when it really hits you because we are not used to that here at all, do you know what i'm saying? everybody usually getting along in the oregon district. it's like a neutral place. do you know what i'm saying? dayton just stood up against hate. we just stood up against hate, man. when the klan came down, we stood up against them because knowing how we are here, so for somebody to come in and interrupt our peace like that, it's scary, man, because we weren't prepared. that, indeed. >> we wasn't prepared. >> i've been to dayton so many times in the cincinnati area. i know that it has been at the cross sec hundred of a race war for decade there, including having many, many ku klux klan marches and i'm not making any sort of association by all of

this. anthony, the bar you were at, that particular area, is it particularly popular with any race group or is it just a mixed crowd. >> mixed crowd and mostly working class and college people. people come down that like to come down for the dayton games and everybody go down there for drinks and like think satisfy it's a good restaurant and good vibes. it gives you kind of a small -- >> white, black, latino, everybody? >> yeah, yeah. it doesn't matter what race it is. they play all music. top 40s. everybody can have a good time in the oregon district. >> anthony, we appreciate your time. thank you once again. i appreciate you being here with us and so sad to hear about your friend and that 22-year-old who may have lost her life after celebrating the birth of a child. >> we are so sorry. >> thanks. >> anthony is one of the witnesses of that shooting that took place early this morning in

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okay. we're back now with the latest update from the he wiel paso shooting. 20 people killed and 26 injured when a lonewalmart. this is where hundreds were doing back to school shopping. no shots were fired at that particular location. but many are still searching for loved one who is were at that walmart. >> she talked to my brother at 10:33. he goes out at the checkout at walmart. i'll be here. and then at 10:39 somebody shot somebody. she's 86 years old.

i can't find my mother. i just want to know where my mom is. >> the anguish and the pain that you see and hear in that woman's voice. police working through the night to process and identify the dead and those injured. a lengthy process. people are responding to that location. we ask that they have patience and bear with us as we're doing the best we can to relocate or locate their loved ones or give them any information. >> police say the suspect surrendered at the scene. taken into handcuffs. onli online -- this has become a key part of the investigation. the texas governor says it will be prosecuted as a hate crime. >> this is disgusting, you intolerable. it's not texan. we are going to aggressively prosecute it both as capital

murder and also as a hate crime, which is exactly what it appears to be without having seen all the evidence yet. i don't want to get ahead of the evidence. we have to be very, very clear. conduct like this, actions like this, thoughts like this, crimes like this, are not who or what texas is and will not be accepted here. >> we are now waiting on clint van zandt to join us by phone right now. he's a former fbi official. clint, are you there with us st. >> yes, i am. thanks. we're dealing with two mass shootings in 24 hours here. you just heard from the governor of texas, governor abbott there. what is your reaction there to this dual tragedy that america is grappling with right now? >> well, you know, we only have to look at the numbers here in america. yesterday's mass shooting of course and now today in dayton, ohio, this makes 292 incidents

in the united states this calendar year where four or more individuals have been either injured or killed. i mean, this is only the 216th day of the year. so that means, i mean, if you're a mathematician, you take away the horrible facts of these situations. we're averaging 1.3 mass shootings every day in this country so far this year. the numbers are kind of overwhelming in july. the month we just finished. 55 dead. 213 wounded. >> absolutely staggering. >> this is a quasi epidemic we're dealing with and partially a crisis as well. clint, hold on the phone. we're going to take a quick break and update everybody at the top of the hour. we'll be right back. hour. we'll be right back. with softer, bouncier gel waves, you'll move over 10% more than before.

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