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with us. area is saying that search there's been a lot of reaction warrants are being executed at a coming out of washington, d.c. you've been calling on the home about 20 minutes from here. president to act now on the this is an evolving story. >> tonight we will have a vigil topic of gun control. let me put up this tweet. there are numerous updates we'll be following throughout the day. at 8:00 p.m. back to you. we talked to leaders in the >> all right. this is from iv anka trump. kathy park live for us in she wrote congress should enact dayton, ohio. business association. new reaction from the white red flag laws, extreme risk house this afternoon. hans nichols has that for us. protection orders in every state and increase resources dedicated to mental health support. we know the president has been also the blood center is closed today. taking to twitter. what is he saying? we have been informed they have with everything we have learned about h shooting that has good day from msnbc world >> reporter: well, he's talking adequate supply but we want to happened in el paso, what do you head quarters here in new york on twitter about how his heart remind people if they want to make of that response and take action it would be good to response coming out of the white city. is with the people of both el it's high noon in the east. paso and dayton. donate blood tomorrow. he's also indicating that he'll house in past 24 hours? welcome to weekends with alex give additional updates we have a special effort that we're putting together. >> i think it leaves a bit to be witt. i'm morgan ratford. throughout the day. i want to thank the dayton he's getting a lot of foundation and have mike parks desired to be quite blunt. any moment now authorities in el information feeds from law enforcement. he's praising what law come forward to explain what paso are expected to hold a there's several things and when enforcement and first responders we had the shooting in the have done. we're trying to do for victims' press conference about the that's from the president deadly shooting in texas. himself. there may be an opportunity to talk to the president when he first, let's take a step back. aurora mooevie theater and you this was one brutal day with two leaves his resort and flies back families. >> thanks. first our thoughts and prayers mass shootings. gun violence in america reaching to washington. sometimes he engages with the are with the families and the press. in the past he has done that on never forget it. a grim threshold in less than 24 victims. my heart does go out to the sunday afternoons. as two months ago, we learned as a community we came together to first responders who have to hours. on the sunday shows you heard deal with this in dayton and el 29 people were murdered in two help those in need and once paso. we got to look immediately communities. dayton, ohio and elle pa paso, again we'll do that. towards what are the standards as we speak a fund is being
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mulvaney defend the president we should use and we're all -- n. medical personnel have been against any suggestion that his established called the dayton we all have some role here. attending to 53 people injured. rhetoric is to blame in el paso oregon district tragedy fund. i think the media, let's promote or dayton. some of them who are right now that will be up and going later in critical condition. we know less about dayton and copy cats. yesterday's target? more about the motives in el this afternoon for those that let's stop using these people's saturday's shoppers a at walmart paso. there's also a possibility we'll would like to help. if you'd like to help your names. who became victims in the call him the dayton perpetrator neighbors and friends there will hear from federal officials that but let's try to depersonalize they're going to treat this as a be a way to do that and assist deadliest shooting this year. hate crime. them a little bit and then limit when you listen to the press those that have been impacted. hours latergunman opening conference, they hinted at this. the size of the magazine that could potentially trigger fire in dayton, ohio in an capital charges as well. capacities. if someone has arthritis or something, that's the argument entertainment district. the mayors expressing the same that means the death penalty which they have in texas as we got when we took on the nra. well. then they can get a special gratitude for first responders? one thing we haven't heard from . >> nobody prepares for this. the white house is calling this exemption in some sort. terrorism or an act of >> thank you, mike. there's no reason to have these i certainly as mayor have not been prepared for something like terrorism. folks have called to reach out killing machines so widely you did hear from kellyanne this. conway on twitter saying this and said what can i do. thank heavens our law others we called and they enforcement was prepared. was an act of terror. available -- nine people killed that's the closest anyone from immediately stepped in. in a minute. i really appreciate the dayton i mean, it's been stated they the white house has come. foundation for doing this quickly as we know that there received a call at 10:30. chuck todd pressed mulvaney and will be people that weren't also another 27 wounded. prepared for such a tragic event we're there at 10:45, and he was was referring to the shooter as in their families. that level of fire power is of no possible use to anyone. >> we have been watching this a terrorist. mulvaney would only say it was a apprehended at 11:06. all right. with that, i'll open up for deranged person. conversationen fo unfold on soc that could be a defining line question. mike campbell. that's master full work, but throughout the day. >> can you tell us whether it's we'll see if reporters ask the it's tough. >> it's sad that it's in the president directly if he media about how we treat related to sister or whatever of domestic terrorists when they are white. city of dayton. we've learned the shooter is an ohio and texas were white.
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if dayton police had not gotten thinks@domestic terrorism or white terrorism and we'll see the suspect? >> yes, that's the sister of the they were white nationalists. to the shooter in under a what his answer is. minute, hundreds of people in are white nationalists treated the oregon district could be >> and that label, that gnomwor suspect. different than brown or muslim >> was the foushe found in a di shooters and where is the gap? dead today. that work and bravery by our location than the other victims? where is the delta we need to >> all nine shooting victims first responders is something cover as public servant, as were located in the oregon that moves me to get up every journalists when it comes to morning and continue this work. is important here. district on or around fifth identifying and naming these let's go to texas and get a let's bring in pete street. killers for what they are in. williams. he's learned more about the >> is there another crime scene >> i think the bigger question update from officials briefing in a different area related to identity or information about is why is this white nationalism journalists on the latest the shooter in dayton, ohio. this? >> as i said earlier, the developments. pete, what can you tell us? investigation leads us in >> thank you. good morning. >> the authorities we've talked different directions. suddenly on the ride ase and se emerson buoy. to identify him as 24 connor obviously we look at vehicles. today the fbi continues to look at a number of different bets of bellbrook, ohio. we look at houses and yes, we more gas soooline poured on the potential crimes to be charged. did conduct a search warrant we have initiated our domestic it's southeast of dayton. fire. earlier today. we should treat white terrorism hate crimes fusion. but they haven't told us much nationalists who function as more about him. it seems he just looking at the terrorists, they should be >> we will put this on our site terrorists. that's comprised of intelligence circumstances, that he planned there's no question about that. as well. there are deeper issues at play this in advance in the sense how about we do that? here. analysts and other places and at that he arrived wearing body i think that will be best. if we want to go to a bar and restaurant at night with our the head quarters level. armor. he was wearing a mask. we'll put that up. friends, if we go do walmart and sgh y go shopping, this really is what >> you mentioned all the victims experts from our were found in the same location. he had an assault style weapon terrorists try to do is we're hearing the suspect's counterterrorism division who with several high capacity interrupt your normal, the look at all the various pieces magazines. those are the clips that hold normal pathways of your life and the rounds that go into the gun. sister and boyfriend were found of evidence and they correlate in a car. make you fear what you most -- he was obviously planning this >> that's incorrect. that information to ensure that for a while. >> the family members of all
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nine people who are deceased we're sharing properly and we but any furthered in about where you feel most relaxed. can pursue a criminal motive we don't know. we as a country shouldn't stand have been notified and a victim it's been only within the last for this. >> let me pose that question right back at you. couple hours that the witness member from the you said we're seeing a rise in investigation, i.e., potentially authorities figured out who he this happening now. civil rights hate crime along was. montgomery county prosecutor's why do you attribute that rise? that took some time. office has been assign to each with any domestic terrorism now they're searching the house, how do you explain this rise of charges a might be possible as and they're doing other family. >> that's why we waited until white nationalism that's clearly on the rise, hate crimes on the well in issue that both cases searches, and just to pick up on this afternoon to release the what hans was just saying, based names. >> have you learned anything can run parallel. rise, domestic terrorism on the rise, the director of fbi saying i would like to remind everyone further about possible motives? on what the u.s. attorney said it's now the bigger threat in that anyone that has information in el paso at the news >> we will address that at 4:00 conference that ended a short this country. 100 arrests in the first half of harding this incident can go to time ago, and what i'm told by as best we can. this year. our website that we have posted we will be able to provide much what do you make of this? officials at the justice departme how do you explain this rise? department, it seems clear the more information on the actual federal government will go ahead incident itself at 4:00. >> i think part of it has come with some kind of charges. from the way -- since president possibly federal hate crime trump's election, he is in a charges that could carry the the address that where he was death penalty, but it does seem strange way not only tolerated right now that the plan is to staying where we conducted a let the texas authorities go white nationalism saying they search warrant early today was ahead first with their htp://www.fbi.govelpasoshooting. that will allow you to provide in bell brook. that is correct. >> i want to ask the governor, information if you have a prosecution of patrick crusius are good people in charl-- and different additional information the suspect being from your to provide us in our efforts in in the state system. authorities there are say thing this investigation. we have completed three search backyard, what are your thoughts on that? >> all the victims are from our warrants outside of this not saying this is not they will seek the death own backyard too. acceptable. this is the opposite of american jurisdiction, and we continue to penalty. texas is a death penalty state. this is just an immense tragedy. values. even the republican party, you don't see them jumping out and the pattern we've seen in recent look at all other avenues and years where'ven though the state no matter where the victims are saying this is outrageous. is proceeding on its
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investigative leads as they're from, they are victims and our we're not going to allow there heart goes out to the families. to happen. we're going to have red flag coming in. information, there's a parallel laws. >> i'm the district attorney. this is a miami valley tragedy. we're going to limit magazine investigation that results in charges that will be filed, but capacities. you have to get a license to we -- it's a very difficult time have an assault weapon. the state authorities in essence >> can you comment on the for our community. will go first. we don't hear any of that going it's really with a heavy heart the trial will be in state court suspect's clothing? that i talk to you, but we are on. first, and then if necessary, or are we just going to have in the process of working we're hearing what's on it. shooting after shooting after if it's desired, the federal shooting with no real response from washington. together with all law >> we'll comment more at 4:00. i think the american public -- prosecution, the federal court enforcement, especially the el i've been through this and seen proceedings would come later. paso police department, the the damage and trauma goes on texas department of public >> pete williams, keeping us up safety, and the fbi. for months and for years. also with the u.s. attorney's not just in families of victims office, we will proceed with the to date on the investigations. but every one who is connected investigation. no motive yet named in dayton. to a shooting like this. i can tell you from the outset the damage is so significant. the charge, the state charge is let's bring in frank. capital murder, and so he is we as a kun trcountry need to s eligible for the death penalty. thank you for joining us. the shooting took place on and standards of our own. we will seek the death penalty. let's begin with you. >> we know no matter what color in your expert opinion, based on around the sidewalk. you are, today we learned a do the loss of life is so great, we the information that's out there >> we're telling you shooting so far that you heard from pete miley cyr certainly have never seen this williams and hans nichols, took place on east fifth street -- domestic terrorists intended in our community. what's your assessment of these and on the sidewalks. >> not the parking lot, correct. we are a very safe community. two shootings? to intimidate or coerce a >> well, the two big takeaways i we pride ourselves on the fact >> the shooting sister -- a civilian. that we're so safe, and thank you so much for joining us here. >> thank you. we're joined now by richard had from the press conference certainly this community is recently were first, i saw great parker. he's an author and new york rocked and shocked and saddened confidence in the officials times op-ed contributor. calling this a hate crime and
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by what has happened here boyfriend. he just published this piece domestic terrorism. you heard from the prosecutors. titled "when hate came to el yesterday. but we will proceed in an >> we can give a little bit more you heard from the law enforcement leadership, and even information at 4:00 on that. orderly fashion, and certainly though there was some still pa paso" richard, thanks so much hedging, there was language use for joining us. we'll get ready for trial and bid the chief of police, it >> i'm sorry. what's going through your mind can't hear you. as you watch these developments the prosecution of this person, strongly headed in that unfold in your hometown? direction. this tells me that they've got [ inaudible question ] specifically talk to us about but if i left you with anything, what they need to attribute that the effect of the latino it wouldn't be what we're going community. to do forward. >> well, this is my second or i would ask you to think of the manifesto to the shooter and then second factor, the fact >> you said that dayton was third mass shooting in recent 20 lives that were lost. that he, the shooter, is years. clearly prepared for this. it's always the same no matter those were persons in our cooperating. what does that tell me? where it takes place. community, and we will miss this guy has an ideology that them, and all of the victims who what i did notice yesterday he's more than willing to >> i think that's the first either suffered physical or explain to you if you give him thought that goes through your after the shooting had subsided the chance. emotional impact from what this is not someone who is mind. when ever there's a tragedy of and the helicopter were still in holding back. any kind, the question is that there's no secret to his happened, we are just not a policy makers have to think the air and there was still motivation. and he's likely told them this confusion, i saw great deal of about it. dignity among the people who is there anything we can do in were lining up to find out if community that really -- this is not us. they had lost loved ones or if is what i'm about. the future to make sure manager this is what i did and this is like this does not happen. we are like the bright sunshine if they were dead. why i did it. make sure is the wrong term. i saw that in a 70-year-old man today. that is us. that's why we're seeing the domestic terrorism label and the who showed me picture of two we are really a good and loving height crime label. to lessen the possibility or small children who had been >> let's get your thoughts on the description of the el paso lessen the number of people community, but we will hold him involved in what i termed a mas killed.
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accountable. >> thank you. i am john bash, the united shooter's online screen. these mass shooltings are all and he carried himself with states attorney for the western he's said the suspect has been alike and all different. great as i said dignity. and calm. district of texas will covers el forthcoming or has been sometimes you get different lessons from each one of them. even though the young kids forthcoming with the mother had been killed in the paso. my grandmother has lived here investigation so far. i don't think today is the day for 50 years. talk to us from your perspective to try to draw the lessons because frankly we don't have shooting. she's 91, since it was a much what it is that officials want so that's, that's what i saw. to learn right now that can sway all the facts. smaller community. and what i tend to believe from there will be ample time for all my mom grew up here, my dad went this investigation or the charges against him one way or my experience as a journalist is to college here. the other. of us to talk about what we i lived here when i was very >> well, i think when you're talking about the domestic learn from this tragedy. is that we like to see a happy young. it's dn been devastating for the terrorism charges, you've got clear issues that need to be ending to these stories as community. i've been impressed by the first frequently as we can. identified. one, that this was an ideology, we talk of the second day or we can start having those responders, police, fbi, in the third day or week later about an extremist ideology being work they've conducted. we had a long night last night espoused an he acted upon that discussions. movinging on but the reality is 20 people at least were ripped working this case. ideology based on some racial >> the mayor said it's 250th i've been in close scuttle with away from the people who love mass shooting. it's the 216th day of the year. nature. and they're looking at this that's more than one a day. them. the dozens of hundreds of attorney general barr, parents and children and coworkers cowork skreed as a component of that, at one point before you get an consultation. of course. ers that will always miss them. we are conducting a careful it may be difficult to actually to answer your latter question, investigation but with a view attribute to him directly from a act before the next one. toward bringing federal hate >> with all due respect. the reality is the scars are crimes charges under 18 ucs 249 going to remain in the city for technical perspective. you've asked several questions at the same time. i think part of the investigation going forward will let me say that let's -- there look to bolster that attachment will be ample time for us to a very, very long time. >> richard, i wanted to get your to him. thoughts on a whole host of and federal firearms charges. that's going to be a critical discuss the lessons learned from issues when it comes the how the we're seriously considering the apartment. white house has been reacting to charges. all this. we're going to conduct a careful we've heard law enforcement what happened today. officers say he's spoken to
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investigation with a few toward them. he may well have admitted this let's fist get the facts and get all the facts out. you were right that the the el those charges. we are also treating this as a is why he did it. it will be time to have those paso massacre was the by product he may have admitted to writing it. we also heard about three search of president trump's anti -- domestic terrorist case. discussions. warrants executed in dallas each one of us has an obligation with ilts vile racism has there's a statutory definition which is where he lives. to take what fact os cur, take poisoned our nation. of domestic terrorism. and law enforcement officers there may have come across tragedies whether it's natural the white house is pushing back this meets it. it appears to be designed to against the notion that the president, his rhetoric, is to intimidate a population. social media postings, blame for these shootings, we're treating it as a domestic documentations. they are interviewing witnesses, saying these are acts that his friends and family members, d terrorism case and we're going to do what we do to terrorists co-workers, and those people disaster, a mass shooting and try to come up with the lessons predate his presidency. in this country. also may talk about his ideology what is your response to this? swift and certain justice. have yoi sensed an escalation in j violent statements he's made learned. with that, i think we'll turn it and they may go toward the anti latino immigrant over for questions. determining what his specific rhetoric that comes from the motivation was. highest offices of our land? so those are all of the things >> i failed to recognize >> there's no question about it. everyone in the room. they're going to do as they look the president came to this city, the commander with the department of public safety and to pursue domestic terrorism. to el paso, which is my i'd like to agree with frank i'm tommy gonzalez, city here too. i see a very strong statement manager. i'd like to send a message to [ inaudible question ] hometown. i grew up here. and i am of latino descent the families. made by both the fbi and the our first responders are working u.s. attorney's office about the myself. he came in january to kick off direction that they're heading. >> we'll address that at 4:00. his presidential campaign. diligently to unify the families they will work in coordination it was all about the wall and all about immigrants. and get the bodies back to them and parallel with state and due to the very short time line local authorities, but this is of violence, it's hard to as quickly as possible. very clear. they are pushing this forward as we are not -- we're expending imagine that there was much domestic terrorism, and it all resources in order to make and i was at that rally and frankly, it was frightening as that happen. absolutely is domestic terrorism one american to any other discrimination in the shooting. american, republican, democrat we'll open it up for questions if that is attached to him based or anything in between. it happened in a very short
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on the statute. and that invicktive has carried now. >> reporter: yesterday there was forward. in fact, it was rooted in the some hesitation to absolutely shawn and frank, thank you period of time. so much for joining us. positively say you believe it's a hate crime. i want to turn now to tim very day that mr. trump are you closer to that now or announced his campaign for the presidency when he called can you now say that you are ryan, a democratic congressman mexicans rapists. from ohio who joins us live. virtually certain this is a hate congressman ryan, you are i have fear ed for three years calling on congress to cancel we're always looking at what this day would come. i was not surprised that it could have motivated such a crime? the august recess to address gun horrific action such as this. came. >>s from man fes toe we just i was shocked it came in my hometown and i could draw a violence. how realistic is that? straight line from the manifesto do you think that's going to happen? >> well, it's time to put public that we believe this point that saw, based on this information, that's where that came from. shooter rote wrote and the so we're going down that road. we're interviewing dozens of pressure on mitch mcconnell. people to try to determine this. talking points of the president. it's beginning to look more i'm suspending my campaign for many of those lines in the solidly like that is the case. we don't have the answer yet. this is the first day. the presidency. i'm going to head back to ohio, manifesto could have been >> reporter: i have a followup written by the white house press and we need leadership right office. >> all right. richard in el paso. question. we spoke so some people thanks for your time and distressed last night. now. they have not heard from family enough is enough is enough is thoughts. the calls are now growing for action to be taken in the members who were there. is that being resolved right enough. you watch videos and see dill speculating would be premature. now? i know you feel a heavy heart >> is his family cooperative at wake of these shootings. several 2020 candidates among those pushing for new gun for them too. lards in the background or a this time? control measures. church in the background, and no >> i won't address that. but what is their situation now? join iing us now, chris brown, one feels safe anymore. >> we have a reunification and there is a bottle neck in center that's turned into a >> we said earlier it was a 223 co president of the braidty center to prevent gun grieving center over in the the united states senate with violencement it feels like we mitch mcconnell. keep having the same conversation over and over we passed in the house of again, but after two shootings caliber ak like long rifle. within 24 hours, is this the
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central area where the event representatives a few weeks he had extra magazines as well tipping point for change? took place pretty much. as a matter of fact, on that i'd back, background checks. as wearing besi ining body armo. what is it actually going to a basic step 90% of the american like to ask the media to be respectful of the families right >> did he have extra guns or people support, and the republicans need to quite just that one gun? take? now. we've been getting complaints >> we can get you more specifics >> i think it takes all of us rising up saying we had enough. frankly get their shit together that the media have been at 4:00. >> i bet we'll see you all at that's what we did after overburdening them with and stop pandering to the nra. questions when actually they're parkland. we had marches all over the more concerned about finding out 4:00. i want to recognize some people country and we elected for the about their loved ones. all the people we saw, they had so we'd ask you respectfully that are here. first time in a generation a gun hopes and dreams. the kcoroner's office has been n they had plans this week. great partnership. violence prevention majority in they were going to do things. they were going to meet with the coroner has been in autopsy their friends. abide by their wishes. they were going to meet with all day. their family. they were going to go to church. state representative is here. the house of representatives and we're looking at all responders i see state auditor here and my they will pass lives. and everyone on the ground the problem they're sitting on participating in this event, and now they're gone because in we're providing them references dear friend and i don't think mitch mcconnell's des b k. this country we're so i'd get through anything without to alleviate their suffering. the mayor of keterring. he's been leader for 1,675 days dysfunctional that we can't do basic things. and it's got to stop, and we >> reporter: let me ask you has we'll see you at 3:00. and we've had during that time, the suspect been cooperating? have to put pressure on mitch 3:00. we're going to have a press 1,654 mass shootings. conference at 3:00 and a press he has blood on his hands. mcconnell to start with the if he wants to go work for the n background check bill. conference at 4:00. >> yes he has. >> reporter: you used the term we need an assault weapons ban. i know how much you love press horrific yesterday to describe we need to study this as a nra, he can go do it. the scene. >> there's not words you can conferences. there's no disagreement about public health crisis that it is. thank you. >> so we just heard from the what has to happen to solve police too say something like deputy chief of police there in that. you have to see it for yourself. these issues and save lives. dayton. first he identified the shooter. when i first got into this job, i never knew there was an order how many months back at the >> i'm curious to get your i don't want to say his name thoughts on this for a moment because excuse me, i've heard people make the point online concert? i come to campaign in south here. he was a 24-year-old white male. that you know after the shooting to blood, but there is. carolina. he did identify all of those
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the baptist church. nine victims. until you see that, my now i'm going back to ohio. all of them except for one were in newtown in sandy hook, if description as far as horrific it was dayton. in their 20s or 30s. will be unserving as far as what . new england you have sandy hook. the youngest was 22. that scene looks like. the oldest was 57. that wasn't enough to mobilize this country and our politicians i can't tell you what that means this is happening everywhere. we also heard from dayton's to do something about the gun >> congressman, let me get your control debate. mayor and the governor of ohio. and all other hosts of issues thoughts on this, with or they were sure to express their other than for the normal individual that doesn't have to deal with that on a day today gratitude to the first nothing will. without the august recess, where do you share that sentiment? responders. basis, it will leave an those who were healing the you seem to be optimistic and impression you will never else do you see shortcomings in wounded. those tending to the information the federal system in addressing and getting that out to the forget. i'll leave it at that. public. mobilization. >> reporter: you said the these types of issues. all of those families have been what is there now real isticall suspect is being cooperative. notified and he said they are it's not just about guns. going to have a 4:00 p.m. what has he told you so far? >> i can't get into the details. conference. that can be done when our domestic terrorism statutes let's go to pete williams who politicians as you mentioned are defending the interests of gun we have to be respectful of the aren't as tight as when it comes has been following along with this story. lob b byists more than they are to international terrorism. pete, what did you make of the the lives of many of their own we don't do a good job with person that still has rights. press conference we just heard? >> we got some clarification on constituents. >> there are a lot of we have to keep it in play and monitoring job line -- where do politicians including leader make sure the investigation goes this reporting that we heard pelosi and the many people who are elected in the house of you see shortcomings addressed forward successfully. earlier about the possibility beyond the gun issue? that the shooting suspect >> reporter: you said that the represent is who aren't aing >> well, here's what a that at all. the proof of the pudding is in functioning democracy would do. the mix. we would get your analyst who no question sandy hook was a suspect purchased the firearm camercaonnor stain on our national has been on all day talking bett's sister was among those consciousness. the fact congress didn't take about the inadequacies of trying legally. do we know where the firearm was action. myself like many americans were purchased? killed. >> not at this time. to monitor this and have public i'm sure we'll find it out later hearings from the united states with the help of our federal congress learning as much as we despend enter about that, but i've just pointed to what can authorities. can about what we need to do in right now those are particulars reports said the sister and her happen when americans can make about the investigation that i boyfriend was near a car and now a bipartisan way with some it's this a top priority issue and
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think need to maintain within common sense reforms around gun they did. they did in 2018. they reversed course and completely removed individuals u but also around other suspect's sister. our purview. opportunities that may be out there to strengthen our ability whether her boyfriend is among who were a plus rate d those other eight people that >> is he what? to prevent this, and then most the police just mentioned is >> reporter: was he allowed to something we're still waiting importantly -- on all the candidates. open carry that weapon? >> that's allowable in the state issues. for con for medication on. that's why the house of representatives passed that go through the process. legislature. as sarah brady said, if you of texas, yes. learn. and then act. conflicting reports on that as >> reporter: he was not can't change the laws, you committing a crime up until the but the culture right now is the well. not unusual to have these point of fire? differing accounts in the hours >> technically. problem. i mean, when you read that after something like this happens as the police work change the lawmakers. we have to focus and elect lawmakers who make gun violence of course normal individuals see prevention a top priority issue tag type of weapon might be manifesto, there were quotes in through it. as it should be. >> chris, i want to ask you very alarmed but technically he was in the realm of the law. there that could have come out the point is with the sister of of a donald trump rally, and briefly because we have to go when you have the president talk the gunman being one of the >> reporter: clarification here in a moment, lindsey graham victims it puts a new different in his tweet, he tweeted about there? about send them back and people red flag laws. >> reporter: could you give us are chanting send them back and approach on what the motive may more details about where the can you tell us what they are surrender was, how they found this jackass drives ten hours to have been. and how can enacting those bring the police obviously say they him and how -- are a long way from knowing what about change? >> could they have prevented >> approaching or responding go shoot mexicans, that's a that was. either attack? >> we shouldn't call them red officers i believe in texas, if in fact the gunman knew that department of public safety was cultural problem the president flag laws. he was shooting his own sister they're extreme risk laws and involved in that particular is throwing jet fuel on making arrest when he saw the officers yes, there's a very important approaching the scene where he matters worse. which we have to assume is the was at, he basically surrendered you need laws but presidents are role because what they do is case, even though this happened the cultural leaders out very quickly. and that was over on the farther country, whether you like it or it was over in something like a allow law enforcement and family not. they can inspire us to reach for minute, i believe they say. members to identify individuals west side from the shooting who are at risk to themselves or the stars or create an site. >> reporter: was he in a it just suggests that perhaps vehicle? >> i believe he was. others when there are clear i can't confirm that as a matter atmosphere of get out of here there was a domestic angle to signs of individuals who are at and go back to where you came of fact, but that's where i from. >> i want to talk about the this that the police now have to risk and seek a temporary court
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believe he was. cultural leadership and this consider rather than just a order to remove guns from those issue as you called it as >> reporter: of those three random shooting of someplace search warrants outside of this individuals. at least 14 states have passed where people were gathering. jurisdiction, can you tell us pandering. we're talking about white tariff those. we need to do it at the federal specifically where those are? and white nationalism. >> they occurred in the dallas you and other candidates have level as well. area where the individual in talked about the deadly effects >> chris brown thank you so much for joining us. appreciate your time this of this racism. afternoon. >> thank you. and we want to take a note that question is from. what's the solution to stop it and i believe there was some beyond something that is just in our last hour, tim ryan of media coverage of those cultural? ohio used profanity when talking how do we stop it in policy? residents when we did it, so, >> well, i mean, a lot of this about the shootings in dayton >> thank you so much for joining again, we continue to do the stuff, obviously, policy-wise, investigation. not going to give any particular and el paso. the hate crimes bill and all we want to apologize and detail as to what was found and us. recognize emotions are running things like that, but a lot can these legislation, all these let's turn back now to sean and frank. we heard the deputy chief of high and congressman ryan is things. they're important. police say we have more from ohio. transpire in 24 hours and as we but you can't discount the information at 4:00. so again we apologize. and new information from the when ever reporters asked about scenes of el paso and tadayton. rhetoric that comes from the white house. motive, they said we'll give you and then the enabling that comes more details at 4:00. continue the investigation, to gather information -- why the delay between now and plus, the psychological impact >> reporter: i know you can't give us specifics but from the republicans all across of all this violence. stay with us on msnbc. this vioe cooperative? the country. stay with us on msnbc. yes or no, that's my name, or is i'm not just talking about then. enabling on legislative acts. that's the beauty of your smile. crest's three dimensional whitening... there substance to the it's like when the president made the comments about good ...removes stains,... cooperation? no details. ...whitens in-between teeth... i understand it's a tricky area. people on both sides in charlottesville. ...and protects from future stains. >> he was forthcoming with how many republicans really >> we have conflicting fact crest. healthy, beautiful smiles for life. stood up and said what was on pattern. you have what appears to been on information. he basically didn't hold anything back. their heart? you know? the face a domestic angle but particular questions were asked in their heart and minds? and he responded in the way it then you have this kind of
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not many. hardly any. needed to be answered. and so the president just kept (momespecially these days. it's easy to shrink into your own little world. seemingly indiscriminate >> reporter: a lot of people going. (dad) i think it's here. have said regarding the domestic and he kept going and kept going (mom vo) especially at this age. until you literally have a crowd terrorism people in the public shooting where the shooter (big sister) where are we going? have said that's what they (mom vo) it's a big, beautiful world out there. dawned body armor, had rounds thought it was from the moment (little sister) woah... (big sister) wow. see that? they first heard about it, but full of people saying send her (mom vo) sometimes you just need a little help seeing it. and extra magazines. can you walk us through the back. and that is what is missing now. this is something beyond just a beef with his sister. (avo) the three-row subaru ascent. process of understanding how it love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. becomes a legal definition and the questions are myriad. was he targeting a group of his republicans have got to tap into why there is a process that takes time before you declare it their values, their conscience, sister's grenfriends or just in get zero percent during the subaru a lot to love event. that? >> well, there's a statutory wrong place at the wrong time. their religion. you know? a lot of these people parade why would he have to use body themselves around loving jesus definition of domestic terrorism and this is me now! i got liberty mutual. under federal law. and being good christians and armor if he was just targeting i think i mentioned earlier the they customized my car insurance, values. we need you to step up and speak his sister. i took away that the police are code. and that definition matters for what's in your heart. so i only pay for what i need. a variety of purposes. then i won the lottery, got hair plugs, not what's in your political it has factors. and started working out. i won't go through all of them. mind that wants you to not have and so can you! the key factor here is it appears to be an intent to donald trump mad at you, and that's how you begin to shift coerce or intimidate a civilian the culture. developing this motive. maybe it's through interviews, maybe through family members. population. that's met here. that's where you begin to find the attack from what we know in common ground so you can get to we don't know. higher ground. the public record appears to be >> what are your constituents this is an important time to teming you when you go back to only pay for what you need. intended to intimidate or coerce take a moment and just remiepds ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ your district in terms of what they want the federal government a population. to do on a host of issues you people that people typically brought up? >> basic stuff. don't snap. people may be feeling helpless your but as you get older,hing. it naturally begins to change, they have activated the domestic
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do the universal background terrorist fusion cell at the causing a lack of sharpness, or even trouble with recall. check. right now. fbi, and so we're going to treat that's supported by 80% to 90% it that way going forward. of people in the country. there's path to violence that's thankfully, the breakthrough in prevagen helps your brain why do we need weapons of war marked with warning signs and and actually improves memory. where you're killing nine people in under a minute. indicato the secret is an ingredient originally discovered... we're saying thank god for the indicators. people don't just snap. law enforcement. they did a phenomenal job, and in jellyfish. aligning themselves with the in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown [ speaking foreign language ] they got there. nine people were killed in under ideology in el paso or what's to improve short-term memory. a minute. happened in dayton, purchasing and training with weapons, maybe we don't need those kind of weapons on the streets in the to act out violently. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. you need to pick up the phone united states. and so my people hunt. and call law enforcement. that is something you can do. they -- it's part of our >> sean i want to get your culture. we take our kids hunting. thoughts. but we are for some common sense reforms that have to happen. and i think this country is ready for that kind of leadership and we're not getting they are very similar in many ways. >> both local and federal they have very different in many ♪ i planned each charted course ♪ officials in el paso, texas it from the president of the united states right now, and now ways and lessons to be learned briefing the media on the latest you have 29 people who had a lot developments comes out in terms ♪ each careful step of plans this week. of where the investigation is from both. going. had a lot of hopes and dreams in what is your take away in terms ♪ along the byway getting a few perspectives on their lives, and have kids, and what happened yesterday and of some similars, some mayor let's go! ♪ much more today and what continues to differences, lessons that can be ♪ much more than this unfold. grandparents and people they most interestingly, confirmation love that they're never going to learned. >> from a similarity perspective see again, and the loved ones ♪ i did it my way really from the local police i think both of these appear to are never going to see them commander there in el paso again. it's preventable. be premeditated.
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it's so dysfunctional right now. when we're looking at dayton. confirming the suspect is ♪ somebody walking in heavily cooperating with local law we can't get off the dime. enforcement in their it sits at the footsteps of armed the way he was with investigation. he was described as being mitch mcconnell right now. extended magazines, body armor, forthcoming. we learned a little bit more >> congressman tim ryan, thank you so much for your time and about how he was actually taken a mask. into custody with the local thank you for your candor. he expected to be confronted by police commander wassing the we'll check in with other law enforcement. here, hello! starts with -hi!mple... he expected to go in and to how can i help? word he surrendered to the texas democratic presidential candidates including former a data plan for everyone. create mass chaos and carnage everyone? police on the scene near the colorado governor john everyone. shooting where it took place in with the amount of fire power let's send to everyone! [ camera clicking ] hickenlooper. we'll see what he plans to do to that he had. the walmart. we also heard from the fbi stop those mass shootings. wifi up there? -ahhh. official there, the special that's coming up in just a few agent in charge who went ahead and said that three search minutes after this short break. sure, why not? ♪ warrants have been executed there's some similarities. how'd he get out?! overnight in and around the dallas area. that is where we've learned the the differences is in the el a camera might figure it out. suspect originated his journey paso case it it appears we have that was easy! glad i could help. some motivation if we can put at xfinity, we're here to make life simple. easy. awesome. to el paso, texas before he that manifesti to him. committed this attack. so come ask, shop, discover at your xfinity store today. let's cross over to hear more we yet do not have that any type from the officials. >> and for what they're grieving of motive. when you have diabetes, as well. again, the first responders we dietary choices are crucial to help manage blood sugar, [woman on pa] cannot say enough with the way but it can be difficult to find a balanced solution. they handled this. thank you, and if you could, try great-tasting boost glucose control. media, if you could make sure it sounds like they are on the you get as much information to the patented blend of protein, fat, and carbs cusp of coming up with those loved ones that have been something. is part of a balanced formula they hinted towardsxexployatione introducing togo's new hot chicken trio. that's clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels. the new brewpub chicken with grilled chicken, impacted. thank you. in fact, it provides 60% more protein bacon, and fresh avocado. the hot buffalo chicken with frank's redhot wings sauce. >> and discussing those charges
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than the leading diabetes nutrition shake that were discussed in this and the tangy barbecue. press conference, the d.a. said and contains only 1 carb choice. the new hot chicken trio at togo's. they are looking to a state enjoy the balanced nutrition of boost glucose control starting to peace together what charge of capital murder, and he happened with that. how far would you go for a togo? said, quote, we will seek the as part of a healthy diet. [woman on pa] death penalty. we also heard from the u.s. attorney in the west district of texas. he said they're looking at pursuing federal hate crime and good day, everyone. federal firearm charges. it's important about looking for picking up our break iing news that also carries the death penalty. we've been talking a lot today the tale tell signs. one of the things we have seen coverage at this hour and the about what exactly is defined is the concern about copy cats. question is america at a tipping point? when we talk about domestic 29 dead in two deadly mass terrorism. i thought it was interesting to shootings within less than 24 hear the u.s. attorney say look, hours. >> it's sad. this is something that is meant it never happened here and that to incite fear and coerce the it happened to somebody so close public. especially when it comes to -- to me. >> he went further by saying my niece, my sister and aunt. they are considering this. it's heartbreaking. thigh are starti the fbi said they activated you've got to bring those things it's -- their domestic terrorism fusion forward. cell. that puts the weight of the the general public is the first line of defense in these cases. federal government behind this investigation. you get a sense that there are a lot of resources deployed in with tough food, your dentures may slip and fall. counterterrorism. civil rights and hate crimes. fixodent ultra-max hold the u.s. attorney said they're gives you the strongest hold ever we can't do this in a reactive
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also viewing this possibly as a to lock your dentures. way. the public can help in that so now you can eat tough food without worry. regard. domestic terrorism crime because of the narrow definition and the >> all right. suggestion that this gunman left fixodent and forget it. behind a manifesto that revealed thank you for joining us. more about his motive and >> joining us now is democratic intent. congressman from michigan. >> it's that manifesto we're looking to get more information on. the authorities said while they had the three search warrants in the dallas area, they would not say specifically what they were able to find. but based on this manmanifesto, they believe this was a hate ♪ crime. what do you make of this. we're entering a discussion >> i'm just exhausted by this applebee's all you can eat is back. about what they can do legally. repeated tragedy in this now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. let's go live to the press country. hearing voices who say there's nothing we can do about it or this is not the time to talk briefing with morgan. what are you hearing from look limu. a civilian buying a new car.ug about what we can do about it. authorities? >> reporter: we're just hearing let's go. if this isn't the time, we can't the next steps expected in the ongoing case that will take find a day of respite to have weeks if not months to go from limu's right. this investigation. liberty mutual can save you money the conversation. and the key points from this is by customizing your car insurance, let's do that. as you mentioned, they are so you only pay for what you need. planning on pursuing this as a oh... yeah, i've been a customer for years. we're hot helpless. federal hate crime. we ought to do what we can. huh...
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it also includes federal firearms charges which does include the death penalty. the state saying they plan to only pay for what you need. mitch mcconnell should take up pursue this as well as a hate ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ the background legislation that the house of representatives crime, and they plan to pursue passed. if he wants to work for the nra the death penalty in that yeah, i think we can take five. it's not far from washington. aspect. he can go to their headquarters we had a chance to hear from you had to open your big mouth. and knock on the door and apply representatives from multiple for a job. here's what i'm gonna do. in the meantime he should live agencies and the mayor saying i'm gonna smash him right in the face. up to the oath of office that he the community right now is kill all thirteen guys in three seconds. shocked and saddened still as swore. they wrap their heads around i'm gonna drop kick him. americans support that. this reality that their city now him, and him. faces. as it relates to the no, no, no that's my guy. that's my guy. investigation that's ongoing in look at you the fate of the world is in your hands the walmart where the shooting and you can't even get along. your momma. took place yesterday, we heard [ screaming ] as of today those bodies left inside as they continue to we support people having access gather evidence will be brought the weapons of war. outside as a portion of the investigation is believed to be we have to do something. complete at the walmart. the chief particularly going it went prevent the next tragedy into just a little bit of detail but it may make it less tragic talking about just how graphic a and prevent somebody from getting their hands on a weapon. scene it was. that even shocked his own self from his long career in law enforcement when he encountered
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what that gunman did yesterday when he killed 20 people inside that walmart and wounded 26 if today is not the day, i don't others. know what day is. >> let me focus on -- let's take the chief saying he's undergoing the gun debate and put it on questioning. the chief's own words is he was side for a moment. cooperating with the we are back following the i want to get your thoughts on breaking news out of el paso, investigators throughout that is there a double standards in process. texas and dayton, ohio. this country how we treat white he didn't share what the gunman was saying or if he openly admitted to writing the essay gunmen opened fire in less than 24 hours in two different posted online that we believe is nationalists, domestic terrorist states. officials last hour announcing connected to him. attacks and how we treat attacks the essay posted we believe injuries from the ohio shooting from gone up from 16 people to about a half hour before the 27. linked to foreign organizations. shooting took place. we heard from federal 15 of those injured have been investigators who say they are looking at other locations a discharged according to the >> it sure feels like it. great distance from el paso in mayor. the suspect was taken down in the dallas area where the less than a minute. we treat it as if it's just a this followed a shooting in el suspect is believed to be from. paso in a walmart. criminal offense and not something much bigger than that. the fbi today is saying they are they are tight lipped as saying treating this as domestic we ignore the people who fan the terrorism. >> and developing this hour, the what they were able to recover flames of that that hatred. anti-immigrant, anti-government from the scene. document attributed to the el there's a lot of grieving going on in this area. paso shooter is now bringing attention to a troubling trend locations that were they are responsible for
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reunification centers yesterday in our country. pointing out the target, websites that serve as forums for online hate. demonizing the target and dehumanizing those people, for have today turned into grieving calling them invaders. jo ling kent has been covering they do have responsibility. this story all morning. centers as family members are we know that president trump facing a tough future ahead. what are you finding on the himself uses this sort of >> i want to zero in on that. internet? >> we're finding the u.s. language. we do have a double standard. we saw in the news conference attorney is chasing promising that happened officials bringing we tend to treat white male leads there treating the el paso domestic terror as if it's just up the subject of the families a criminal act or just a mental and the resources being deployed. shooting as a domestic terrorism talk to us about the families in health issue when we know it's terms of what resources they are case. so much more complicated than this comes a extremism is being given as they go through that. this difficult process of identifying loved ones and those spreading rapidly online. we have to hold everybody injured in the area. it's a place where conspiracy >> reporter: we know counselors responsible they are moved to theories and terror are cheered take action against people because of where they come from have been deployed at numerous on. or the color of their skin. this morning the skreed tipping locations across the city and we off investigators before the el >> or we treat it like it's heard from investigators that isolated and not like it's an em they were adamant that family paso attack is pulling back the demonstratic. members of all of these victims >> blame it on everything but curtain on the darkest corner of had been contacted before this what it is. the internet. >> we're not helpless. we have to do something. point in time. >> this is where it happens now. >> appreciate your insights. that was very crucial to them as they made their way through this if you're just joining us >> reporter: websites are allowing the sinister undertones here is the latest on two mass information. the family members who needed to of white nationalism to go shootings in less than 24 hours. know if they were -- if their mainstream. >> this is a place where white victims -- if their family nine people killed and 27 members were inside that walmart injured overnight in dayton, were notified. nationalists urge each other to commit crimes or even worse,
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as it stands the victim's mass murder. ohio. >> reporter: minutes before the police say a lone gunman was families aren't the only ones carnage in el paso the suspect dressed in body armor and hefrs posted a pdf of his plans, but receiving counseling. members of law enforcement have a -- he was armed with an assault that wasn't enough time for the rifle. been told counseling is fbi to react. this just hours after 20 available. that's a testament to the >> clearly there was not enough people were killed. 26 others wounded at the local horrific nature of what they time for law enforcement to be able to use that information to automatic in el paso, texas. encount eveered yesterday when intercept this mass killer. walked inside a walmart where it's not possible. thousands of families were the lone gunman surrendered at inside trying to purchase back >> reporter: jim kavanaugh says to school supplies when the fufr the scene. federal surveillance is rang out. >> it's important to point out restricted. >> federal agents cannot monitor now to some breaking news on that conference they also held in spanish. the boards just because there's the el paso shooting. you were saying yesterday that hate speech. the federal government some of these family members >> reporter: the suspected investigating an act of domestic were concerned to actually check shooter expressed his support on their loved ones because of terrorism. the department of justice is for the shooter in new zealand their status. in a massacre earlier this year. strongly considering federal firearms and hate crime charges there is a group that our -- against the suspect. that shooter targeting muslims that could mean the death and killing over 50 people in penalty for him. christ church posted his own joining us now from el paso, hope border. texas is phillip. a place where people can go if diatribe on the anonymous forum with a link to a live stream of good to have you with us. they want to check the status of i know this is personal for you in the sense you're from that their families who may or may community. the slayings on facebook. you know that city better than anyone else. not be in the hospital to if what's been going on through a copy cat later did the same your head in the hours since you've gotten there on the before shooting up a san diego ground and as this tragedy continues to unfold?
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they're worried about their synagog status. synagogue. >> we want to break down what the director of the fbi saying we're hearing in the press there are 100 arrested related >> reporter: it's been very to domestic terrorism since hurtful since i first heard conference with some of our law about it yesterday. october. >> a majority of the domestic enforcement officials. first we want to go to alexander -- excuse me, blaine terrorism cases that we've i was shocked at how vicious it was. i was born here. investigated are motivated by i was raised here. alexander. you spoke to two of the family some version of what you might my brother is a firefighter. call white supremacist members of shooting victims. >> reporter: certainly we're violation. >> reporter: domestic terrorism hearing and learning more about is different from home grown one of the first responders the people that were in the path violent extremism in the u.s. of that shooter yesterday. yesterday. i got a chance not too long ago my cousin and my aunt were inspired by global jihadist. shopping at the mall when they were told that they needed to go >> they all think the race war is coming and they're part of it. or on lock down soon. >> reporter: ben collins says to speak today daisy fuentes. the racially motivated terror on they were able to get out before it was lockdown. she said both her grandparents the internet is not far off from they are safe which makes us feel a little better personally. were shot. they're two of the victims being treated today. she tells me remarkably her classic terrorist cells. there's 20 neighbors and family >> it's people in different who is are mourning the loss of grandparents were able to call basements throughout the world someone who went shopping and is coming together to hate not going to come back home. her mother and let her know that thingsing. >> reporter: so the u.s. they had been shot and she said attorney also saying they are in that all her mother could hear this pretty much everybody on my close communication with the on the other end of the phone social media is from el paso. was just the grandmother screaming. it hurts. attorney general william barr. we've been shot. i was seeing inundated with the it hurts.
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so we do know we're getting we know the identity fringe hurt and anger associated with conspiracy theories are updates on their conditions. this. we know that one grandmother is impacting large numbers of there were some good things that people across the country. came out. we're not talking about the dark we saw the community rallying out of the woods in stable and saw the people lining up the corners of the internet. condition but her husband, juan, it's mine stream. is not doing very well. >> they're trying to enter the he, in fact, is going back for mainstream of our political droves around the block to d surgery later today is what we structure. it doesn't just exist online but donate blood. there's a lot to be proud of in understand. they're tracking the number of terrifying moments for the two this community and this country of them. times it turns into action. they were just getting out of >> that's right. and there's also a lot to be their car. >> all right. this is the walmart they go to thank you so much for joining us. all the time. in fact, i'm told they were just >> let's go back to washington ashamed of. inside trying to buy some d.c. and bring in pete williams we talk about protecting our curtains for their home with more information on the borders and way of life and we yesterday. they looked outside. see something like this. as they were parking they said they saw a woman waving her arms >> this is wrinkle in this case what are we protecting it from. death and decay. as if to say don't come this that may take the motive in a when we're left to our own way. devices in el paso, only 18 they weren't able to understand different direction. her signal. people were murdered here in the just as they were getting out of what we're told is they have entire year and 20 just the car is when both of them were hit by the gunman. found a car in the area in yesterday. again, two of the patients that they weren't people who were raining and pillaging. they were coming over here to are being treated here. dayton that contained connor's we got an update from the shop, to contribute to society, hospital telling us that three to our economy here. of them are still in critical i had a friend who knew a little sister and her boyfriend, both condition. and of the 11 brought, 8 were in of whom had been shot to death. league coach who was out there fund raising for kids who was one question is whether we know stable condition. and if there is any good news, we understand they're hoping to that connor was shot at the shot. if those aren't the type of release at least one of those people we want in this country,
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patients later today. i don't know who is. >> nbc's blaine alexander. scene. are they the threat or is it a thank you so much. now to the dayton shooting. radicalized kid who drove over here with hate in his heart and next hour the mayor is expected a rifle in his hand? to hold a press conference. this pe begbegan with -- they h it makes you think -- it hurts we'll bring it live. in less than a minute the look into, this began with and it makes you think where suspect killed at least 9 people domestic violence and escalated rewith and what do we want to be from there. as a country? and at least 27 people were remember the descriptions from >> where are we? injured. one patient is in critical law enforcement and witnesses at condition right now. >> powerful words. police officers killed the the scene of the bar shooting is >> we have to say we're sorry to suspect. authorities are now trying to that the suspect there was you. we're sorry to your community. we're sorry this happened in our identify him and any possible heavily armed. country. we're sorry that you have to be motivation. dayton police gave us -- we wearing black clothing and a with those people today. don't have this sound bite yet, mask. he was well prepared for that. but msnbc spoke to a witness, thank you for joining us. anthony reynolds lost some people he knew in the shooting. >> and now we have nbc's kathy this doesn't seem to be a spur of the moment thing but it does park near where the shooting take the motive in a different happened. kathy, what is the scene like direction with the discovery of car with two victims inside now? shot. one was connor's sister and the >> reporter: good afternoon. so we are just getting to the other victim was her boyfriend. scene right now. still very much an active crime scene. i want to set the scene for you. paint the picture of exactly where we are. we are at the entrance of the
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>> that is a dark and surprising oregon district which is hear in turn. have authorities said anything downtown dayton. this is an area where people go about notifying oh membe ining f to have a good time. there are several restaurants. the family. there are bars. >> this is part of the reason why trying to ascribe is motive theaters. last night people were out to is somewhat more complicated. celebrate and that revelly was because they haven't found anything yet, nothing like the cut short in the 1:00 hour when the lone gunman opened fire, apparent essay that was left killing nine as you mentioned, behind by the suspect in el wounding 27 others. we got an update from officials paso. >> live in washington, d.c. for not too long ago with the us. keep us informed if you get condition on some of the anything else. survivors. we were told that some of the el paso is dealing with a patients are still going in and out of surgery. range of emotions a day after some of the injuries are more the gunman opened fire. severe than others. we'll have a closer look at the what was interesting was that city along the border and its aside from the gunshot wounds, some of the patients are being sister city on the other side. treated for injuries that were stay with us. d its sister city on the other side. stay with us so, every day, ensued in the chaos when people we put our latest technology were running and escaping the and unrivaled network to work. shooter. we heard from the mayor several the united states postal service makes more times today obviously visibly e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. distragt and shaken by the e-commerce deliveries to homes cake in the conference room! showing 'em you're ready... to be your own boss. tragedy. she said this was the saddest day for the city. that's the beauty of your smile. take a listen. crest's three dimensional whitening...
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were killed. msnbc correspondent joins us from mexico city. i follow you on social media. i saw the post you put of the post. that says a lot about how the country is reeling. what are you hearing and seeing over there? >> we talk about this essay, it's from page news here. hispanic invasion. a hate crime against mexicans. that's how people are viewing yesterday's attack. we heard from the president mexican president who said that el paso is an otherwise safe city. el paso and juarez really in the same city. 20,000 people go back and forth between the two cities. a close relationship there. there is a consulate member
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witt. any moment now we're expecting a press conference from mayor of dayton, ohio where nine people were killed. it's been a day in america unlike any other. two mass shootings in less than 24 hours. 29 people were murdered in two communities. dayton, ohio and el paso, texas. yesterday's target saturday shoppers at a walmart in el paso who became victims in the deadliest shooting we have seen this year. last hour authorities announced they will seek the death penalty for the 21-year-old shooter. just hours after the shooting another imcomprehensible act. that gunman opening fire. we're seeing the mayors of two different cities expressing the same gratitude for those first responders. >> nobody prepares for this. i have not been prepared for something like this. thank heaven our law enforcement was prepared.
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it's been stated they received a call at 10:39. we're there at 10:45 and he was apprehended at 11:06 a.m. i think that's masterful work from their training. it's tough. >> today is the 250th mass shooting in america. it's sad that it's in the city of dayton. if dayton police had not gotten to the shooter in under a minute, hundreds of people in the district could be dead today. that work and that bravery by our first respopdsenders is something that moves me to get up every morning. >> president trump is ordered american flags flown at half staff at the white house and other government facilities in memory of the victims of both mass shootings. >> as we wait for the dayton mayor to speak, we have information about the shooter. the sister of the shooter has been found dead in a car along with her boyfriend. both were shot. authorities are now working to see how this fits in with the
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shooting that played out at the bar. earlier we learned the is was 24-year-old white male. he was wearing body armor when he opened fire. police say he used a assault rifle bullets. in less than a minute the suspect killed nine people. 27 others were injured. one patient is in critical condition. police officers killed the suspect. earlier msnbc spoke with a witness, anthony reynolds who lost some people. >> first we hear the gunshot. as we're looking around you hear another gunshot. after that you hear the rapid fire and that's when we realize what's going on. i had my cousin with me. that's how i was able to see the people in the line getting shot. you could see those people fall. that's when we really kind of hauled it out of there and yelling the people it was mass shooter. we knew what happened in texas
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earlier that day. it still didn't make me prepare myself for a possible shooting. >> nbc kathy park is near where the shooting happened in ohio. give us the situation of what is happening on the ground there. >> reporter: good afternoon to you. more than 12 hours later there's still very much a heavy law enforcement presence. i want to point out where we're standing now. we're at the entrance of the oregon district which is an entertainment district in town d dayton. this is an area where people come out to have a good time. 1:00 this morning it turned into horror, chaos when people began running. duo want to mention the injuries have been confirmed 27 injured. nine dead. people are still going out of surgery. there is one patient in critical
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condition. we had a chance to hear from the mayor not too long ago and she said this could have been a lot worse. take a listen. >> if the officers were not in the oregon district, the officers were there less than a minute from the beginning of the shooting. the shooter was able to kill nine people and injure 26 in less than a minute. if we did not have police in the oregon district and the thousands of people in the oregon district enjoying their saturday evening what we could have had in the city. it's a terrible day for dayton but i am so grateful for dayton police fast action. >> reporter: i do want to point
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out during the confrontation with officers, no officers were injured. the next couple of moments we'll be updating you on that. as far as as a suspect we know he's a white man in his 20s and search warrants are being executed. about 20 minutes away from where we are and we'll pass on information as soon as we get it. >> all right. kathy park, thanks for that. let's go back to sean henry and frank. both have been helping us try to put both of these tragic veeven in the legal context. in the last hour we heard an interesting development from pete williams that dayton police found the ohio suspect sister and her boyfriend dead in a vehicle nearby. how do you interpret that new
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development? >> i think when you look at this new fact, first of all, police are going to be looking at ballistics. how were they killed? is it the same weapon used in the shooting and in the oregon district? through the course of their exploitationf the data, the evidence they will likely accumulate at the crime scenes or at be able to try to put this together. there could be a myriad of reasons this occurred. you're not going be able to put that together until you collect that evidence. maybe they were aware of what was going to happen and they were killed by the suspect. there may be a host of other reasons. at this point it's unclear and i believe the exploitation of the search warrant will be critically important. >> frank, i want to turn to you now to discuss these charges a little bit because it sounds like texas officials are planning to throw the book at the shooting suspect seeking the
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death penalty. the feds are considering firearms and hate krcrime charg. how would you prepare this response to previous mass shootings? >> it's a standard protocol and sean knows this as well, for the federal government to allow state and locals to handle their issues and to do it well and to come alongside and support. if you got a state that has strong law enforcement resources, you have a death penalty in texas and you want a community to take care of its issues. i like the idea this has become a texas issue. this was a texan who did this and allowing texas to address the issue with all the support from the federal government. that doesn't mean charges are mutually exclusive. there might be the state charge brought and prosecuted and then you might see federal charges filed. just to be sure and to send that
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message and then if things go awry in state prosecution you may well see the federal government come in and execute those filed charges as well. i like this notion of allowing localities to take care of business when it's their own that's done the crime. >> i need you to help me understand because there's been a lot of debate about the issue of domestic terrorism. this is a debate that's raged online. we saw it immediately addressed today by the u.s. attorney for the western district of texas. clarify for us and clear up for us the speculation there is no domestic terrorism stat to it or we don't have the same resources to go after domestic terrorism the same way we can go after both international terrorist organizations as well as online radicalization are used by foreign terrorists to recruit people inside the u.s. and when it happens domestically in the
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context of american law. >> i think first we have to look at definition of domestic terrorism. when you have individuals that are motivated by extremist ideology based on race or some political view, they're u.s. based. it's a u.s. movement. i think when we're taurking about the resources in these case, what we have to look at is first amendment protected activity. it's a very difficult for law enforcement. they're not able to go in and
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listen in on people who are engaged in first amendment protected activity. the problem is when somebody moves from something that's aspirational whether talking about things they don't like to operational where it moves into the act of violence which is the criminal activity. that's very challenging. that's where law enforcement is hampered. as we go forward it's really important to understand that security, there's a balance between security and our freedoms. freedom of speech and other liberties that we hold sacred as americans. this is a very troubling time. a lot of this is being facilitated by the internet, by social media that has provided unforeseen access into people's living rooms where they are being radicalized online. >> i think you're making an important point about the rhetoric. we just saw the dayton mayor. she's walking out to the podium. let's see what she has to say.
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>> hello. i have with me deputy chief carper, governor mike dewine. city commissioner chris shaw, mike parks, shelly dixstein. we have some updates to give you today. i just took a tour with the governor to show the site. he's been briefed by our team and understands what happened here early this morning and i'm going to let him say a few words. >> thank you very much. good afternoon, every one.
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my wife and i want to express to the victims, victims' families, the dayton community our great sympathy. this is a heartbreaking tragedy. it is the type of tragedy that you pray never comes to your state or to your community. the mayor and i talked earlier this morning, very early this morning. prior to that i received call from our safety people of the situation. i just want to say that the city of dayton, montgomery county, first responders, every one has done an absolutely amazing job. you practice for these tragedies and you pray to god they never occur. if you don't practice, you're not ready. it's clear dayton was ready.
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the community was ready. the mayor has pointed out how many other departments have made themselves available and have been involved in helping. i just want to thank all of them. i want to thank the police department. the officers who were involved. we will never know how many lives were saved. the mayor gave me the tour a few minutes ago. the assailant was very close to being able to kill dozens and dozens more people. in this tragedy, we have to
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thank our first responders. we have to thank our police department for the amazing job that they have done. again my hats off to the city of dayton. to the police departmentrespond. thanks mayor. >> thank you so much. certainly appreciate the governor's help and ohio state patrol as well who have been terrific as we have gone through a number of issues over the past summer. the governor has been one to quickly call, quickly check in and be here when we're dealing with these issues. certainly appreciate your leadership. we have updates from police.
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i'm going to turn it over to deputy chief. >> i'm like to release the identity of the shooter. the shooter in this instance is connor betts. white male, 24. date of birth, 10/28/94. i would ask that some images of the suspect have been posted by media and some of those are not correct. please make sure that you have the correct photograph or image of the suspect. i believe the media has the wrong facebook posting on their
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website. please make sure you have the correct one so we're identifying the proper person and the proper person's image. we'll have additional information at 4:00. at this time i'll give you the names and demographics of nine people who were killed. the first one is lois oglesby. black female, 27. the second one is megan betts. white female, 22.
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