tv Politics Nation With Al Sharpton MSNBC August 4, 2019 2:00pm-3:00pm PDT
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good evening, and welcome to this special edition of "politicsnation." tonight's lead, another summer weekend, another uniquely american mass shooting. followed by another. all in less than 24 hours. adding up to four such shooting incidents in just the last week, all together. 29 people have been killed since saturday morning in separate
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mass shootings in dayton, ohio, and el paso, texas. authorities still piecing together motives and supplying medical aid to 53 wounded, many as of this moment still reported as being in critical condition. law enforcement in el paso announced earlier today that the massacre there, the deadliest mass shooting this year, will be investigated as a domestic terrorism case. after the heavily armed shooter posted an online creed about a, quote, hispanic invasion of texas. just before targeting shoppers in walmart -- in a walmart store just two miles away from the u.s./mexico border. and in dayton earlier today, senior law officials identified the suspect in that shooting, like the shooter in el paso, he was armed with an assault
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weapon, carrying extra bullets, and also wearing body armor. moments ago, we heard from president trump en route to the white house. his brief first on-air comments since the attacks. >> hate has no place in our country. we have to get it stopped. this has been going on for years. for years and years in our country. we have to get it stopped. >> we go first now to el paso. joining me now, nbc's morgan cheski, morgan, what's the latest on the investigation that you can share with us? >> reporter: yeah, al, good afternoon. at this point in time the investigation splitting into two distinct paths. we have the community in el paso rallying together and starting this long process of healing. but on the other side we have authorities that are really buckling down in this investigation to bring what they call swift justice and make sure
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it is served against the gun who walked into the walmart over my shoulder yesterday, left 20 people dead and injured 26 others. investigators tell us the gunman is in custody. we're told he is investigating with cooperainvestigat -- we don't know what that means, other than he's answering questions. one of the main things they're focusing in on today is that online essay they believe that gunman posted anywhere from a half hour to an hour before this shooting took place. au were tipped off to his existence but weren't able to intercept that gunman in time before he walked into this walmart and opened fire. we've seen videos come in, al, of people hiding, taking whatever cover they could inside that walmart to stay alive. while others ushered people safely out of the exits and they were able to get away from that gunman as he unleashed round after round inside that building. in the meantime, we've seen people show up here at this scene today. giving police room to work but just paying tribute to those lives that were lost.
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a memorial showing up on the outskirts of that scene which is very much still active, as police comb over that area gathering whatever evidence they can to build the case against this gunman. now, as we found out today, the hope by investigators on both state and federal level is to charge this gunman with crimes that could bring about potential death penalty on either federal arms charges or the state murder charge of capital murder, rather. either choice, if convicted, could bring about the death penalty, al. so as of right now, we're hearing from folks in this community coming together ready to move on from this on a very painful day as investigators still trying to learn as much as they can about this man who brought so much pain to this city. >> morgan, we're told that he is cooperating with authorities. has there been any indication what that means? has he said anything? has he elaborated on the scribe that has been associated with
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him and clearly according to all reports he wrote it? >> reporter: that question was asked at a press conference earlier today, and authorities are very clear that they didn't want to share too much of what was taking place within that conversation between investigators and the gunman. not confirming that he was the author behind that but our sources within the law enforcement community do believe that he is, indeed, connected to that online essay of about 2,000 words that was posted yesterday. we don't know exactly what was said to investigators when we asked them to basically clarify what cooperating met. they merely said he was answering questions that he was asked but stayed very tight lipped as they kind of build this case even more. al? >> all right. thank you, morgan. we go now to dayton, ohio, and nbc's cathie park. i understand authorities
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identified the shooter earlier today as well as his sister being one of the fine people killed in that attack. what else do we know? >> reporter: reverend, good evening to you. that's right. we're several hours removed from this heinous shooting and slowly starting to get questions answered and heard in the press conference moments ago, we saw some key piece of evidence including a 911 call that was played out. surveillance footage as well as the rifle that was used by the gunman. and what's interesting, rev, is that this rifle was actually purchased in texas and was transferred to a local dealer. so that is some more information about the firearm that we didn't know before. authorities also released the timeline of this shooting which was also pretty shocking to hear. so the gunfire was initially heard around 1:05 this morning. and then 20 seconds later is
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when officers, patrolling officers who were already in this area, because this is a very busy corridor, especially on a saturday night, that is when they confronted the gunman. and then ten seconds after that is when the suspect was killed. so in total, rev, 30 seconds all it took for them to corner the suspect and eventually kill the suspect. but as you know, he ended up killing nine individuals. 27 people were sent to the hospital. and one of the victims was meagan betts and she is the s t sister of conner betts who's been identified as the gunman and what was also pretty remarkable to hear, or pretty shocking to hear, was that she was in the vehicle with the suspect as well as another individual, all in the same car as they arrived at the scene. so officials are not saying exactly what transpired after they left that car, but they -- we were told that they all came together, got out of the car and then separated and moments later
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is when the shooting happened. but this really is a difficult day for this community. behind me is the oregon district. as i mentioned this is a popular area. there are bars and restaurants. this is a place where people come to have a good time but all of that was disrupted as lives were changed forever. but i do want to point out that this area is being cleaned and slowly being cleared and eventually 5th street here will be open back to the public. rev? >> do we know -- we've heard authorities say they don't know the motive, but is it not of interest to them that his sister arrived at this location with them and then later she became a victim? is that something that they're looking into that may lead to whatever his motive may have been? >> reporter: yeah, that was one of the questions. one of the many questions that were brought up by reporters here at the scene. and that is part of the larger investigation. we still don't have a motive.
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and the police chief said it was a little too premature to kind of predict or suggest what was kind of going through his mind when he carried out the acts but that is something that really stood out in this press conference. he was with the sister. also there was that other individual. that individual from officials, they said was actually injured and they were able to question that person. so hopefully we'll get some more answers in the coming days. as this investigation continues. >> all right. thank you, kathy park. i want to bring on the phone democratic ohio senator sherrod brown. senator, first, of course, my condolences particularly to the families there. and, of course, all of your citizens. and congratulations to the first responders and law enforcement that seemed to have handled this very well. how are your constituents holding up, senator?
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>> connie and i have been in dayton for most of the day with mayor whaley and others that have played such an important role in this, and, i mean, it was remarkable that hundreds weren't killed because of the, you know, the -- it was not exactly an ar-15, but it was mostly the same weapon that was used in aurora some years ago that can kill a maximum number of people in a few seconds. and so it could have been way worse. you know, my first thought as it always is, reverend sharpton, is sadness and prayers and all that for victims and their families. and we saw much of that here today. but it's also anger that the senate won't do its job and the state government in ohio doesn't -- is totally in the pocket of the gun lobby. we have -- the house has passed background checks bill. i called on senator mcconnell to bring the tomorrow
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and we should do the same, pass it, get it to the president. get him to sign it. but senator mcconnell's in pocket of the gun lobby and i'm hopeful, but i don't expect him to respond. but we're going to keep trying. >> so you are joining others in calling for senator mcconnell to call a special session of the senate and deal with at least background check bill and put it before the president and you're the sitting senator in ohio where one of these two mass shootings happened this weekend. >> yeah. and i -- i called on the phone senator mcconnell several hours ago, i think maybe at 10:00 or 11:00 this morning, to bring us back into session. it can be done in one day. the bill, we take the house bill, we pass it, it goes to the president, but, you know, this crowd in control -- i mean, we have seen every time -- every time there's a mass shooting, i hear republicans say, my prayers are with the victims, my thoughts and prayers.
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well, they should be, and i'm glad of that, but we've got to actually do something. first of all, the senate should do the background checks then we should reinstate the assault weapon ban. this weapon, i was told by several law enforcement people this weapon should not be on the street used by civilians. this is a military assault weapon that can kill the maximum number of people in a few seconds. it should not be on city streets. in fact, the police are so outgunned. these police officers i talk to, they understand they're up against an assault weapon like that and they're outgunned and they showed great courage stopping this shooter as quickly as they did. >> no doubt about it. and prayers are certainly always in order but prayers without work really does not work at all. and really is not honored in many places in the scripture say that. what action other than mcconnell reconvening the senate which
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we -- there's varying view on whether that's even within the realm of possible with mcconnell. what other action would you like to see taken? >> well, i think you keep the pressure on them. you -- i'm asking ohio legislature to do something which is rarely does. i mean, ohio legislature is one of the most pro-gun legislatures in the country because it's controlled by the far right. i just think we have to keep pressure on our elected officials and on this president who, you know, this is -- this is -- you think about what trump has done to encourage divisive racist talk and, you know, you can't connect anything to anything for sure. know that the president acting this way, you know, you look back, even president bush, had little use for in terms of the iraq war and privatizing social security, went to a mosque right after september 11th. >> right. >> he said muslims didn't attack us, terrorists attacked us. president obama went to sandy
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hook, president obama went to charleston, try to heal. this president never does that. i hope at some point republicans put enough pressure on him that he will actually try to start healing the country instead of the divisive racist talk. >> senator sherrod brown, thank you so much. up next -- >> thanks, reverend sharpton. >> up next, 2020 candidate, senator kamala harris. stay with us. that's one of thousands of prizes in the shell great gas giveaway! fuel rewards members are automatically entered when they fill up at shell. fuel rewards members are automatically you wouldn't accept from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. most pills only block one. flonase.
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nearly 30 people were killed in mass shootings in both el paso, texas, and dayton, ohio, this weekend. as we mentioned earlier. these tragic events are almost exclusive to the united states. largely because high availability of firearms in this country. this graph from "the new york times" shows that there are about 270 million guns recorded in the united states, whereas no other country has more than 46 million guns. joining me now, jim cavanaugh, he's an msnbc terrorism analyst and retired special agent in charge for the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. jim, the fact that there are so many guns available and i'm just talking about this weekend, there were also last weekend, we saw the garlic festival in california mass shootings.
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in brownsville, brooklyn, where i come from, i just talked to community leader a.t. mitchell. we've had a mass shooting there. i mean, the availability of guns goes all the way across this country. different geographic lines. different types of communities. why are we not doing something about it? >> well, cowards in the congress, we're awash in guns, totally awash in guns, without any viable laws that can help us reduce the violence. and look at the gun magazine in this case, 100-round drum. if the shooter in dayton had gotten inside, it would be absolute carnage. it already was carnage. it would have been ten times worse. the shooter in aurora, colorado, had a 100-round magazine as well. why is that allowed to be sold anywhere, a 100-round magazine? for the convenience of sports shooters? the death and destruction far outweighs any convenience people should have. we're in a bad place, reverend
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al. we have people with no spines or backbones in the senate. they're completely owned by the gun lobby. they will do fog. if we have a shooting this week and 100 are killed they will do nothing, i guarantee it. been on this issue for my whole life. unless the voters change, unless the voters watching this say, you know, i'm not registered to vote, i'm going to go out this week, register to vote and i'm going to vote next time, and i'm going to vote for my family. and you decide that yourselves. who you should vote for. that's going to help your family. because america's not in a good place now. the white supremacists are in strong, they're in full fettle, worse than they were, building up like the '60s. you and i talked about it before. i went on the police just right after the civil rights movement. >> right. >> in the early '70s. so it's bad now and going to get worse. >> and we are told by any number of people including the federal law enforcement the largest threat in this country are
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domestic terrorists and these white supremacist groups, but they couldn't execute a lot of what they do without these arms available. people need to think as you just said, jim, that they're not voting and that do vote, those that are not to register as you just said because anybody could have been in a walmart, anybody could have been in a mall on a no sales tax day because they're encouraging people to come out and shop and prepare for school openings there. >> that's right. people are feeling this all over the country. you know, i thought about you when they had the massacre in brooklyn. i know you're from brooklyn. >> right. >> i thought about you this week. and people are going to stores. this hits every community to gun violence, every single community is hit, it's hurt. anybody can be killed. churches, schools, you know, music concerts. restaurants. america has to say enough's enough. we got to stop it. any leader now, any real leader, we're in the congress, would go
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to the floor of the congress, go to the floor of the senate and do something today. the president would go to his oval office and sign a bill. that would be what real leaders would do. people can look at the action and they can see what's going to happen. i tell you what's going to happen, absolutely nothing. but they could do a lot of things. they could limit magazine capacities, they could make background check bill go through. they could do some things on assault weapons or even, rev, reclassify these things completely as police combat rifles and put the different restrictions on them that are necessary for age limits, maybe 25, you know, when we see the onset of mental illness. they can do a lot of research. they can debate it on the floor. they could give police officers more tools. you know, one thing i'd like to see is patrolmen get the folding stocks for their pistols so they can get in an even gunfight sometimes that will help them with a more accurate shot. there are a lost t of things th
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can be done and have to have the debate and the will -- >> you have to have the will. you said it, jim, the will to do it. thanks for being was. let's go to nbc's vaughn hillyard who is in las vegas with democratic presidential candidate senator kamala harris. vaughn? >> reporter: yeah, good evening, rev. we've been with the senator from california, kamala harris, the last few days here in nevada. she attended a church service this morning and then met up with the divine nine, a group of fraternities and sororities here in las vegas as this news unfolded, the shootings in el paso as well as in dayton, i want to bring in the senator. thank you for joining us here. >> thanks, vaughn. >> reporter: what are the conversations that have come out of this? essentially these unregulated sites. the el paso shooter is believed to have used hchan, a platform that is unregulated in which it's essentially a breeding ground for white supremacy, for violence. right now there's not much federal oversight that we are aware of of these sites. as president, what would you do, would you call for greater
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monitoring of these sites? what could your plan be on that front? >> well, i would do what i've done as a united states senator which is call on also the social media companies to monitor and to shut this stuff down. there's a lot about also the business model of these sites that is about, you know, it's clickbait. the things that attract the most clicks make them the most money. it's part of their business model. and hate, sadly, happens to attract a lot of clicks. and so the responsibility is across the board, but including the social media companies. any business model that profits off of hate is a business model that should be shut down. >> senator harris -- >> reporter: i want to bring in rev here, but -- >> senator harris -- >> yeah. >> the president just came down from his helicopter headed to the air force one, headed back to washington. didn't say much. he did say "hate has no place" but he didn't address directly what vaughn just referred to, this manifesto, essay, that
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really talked about white nationalism and talked about invasion of mexico. he said of mexicans, rather, to this country. he said that he's going to speak to the nation sometime tomorrow morning around 10:00. do you feel the president should address directly this whole question of white nationalism and sentiment against mexicans and other people of color given his own statements of calling mexicans rapists and all, do you think he should directly address what is being clearly put as a motive for at least the shooter in el paso? >> well, rev, to the point of your question, he has addressed it over and over and over again. he has emboldened it, given it power, he has elevated it. he's cottled it and he's got to stop. we have a president of the
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united states who has embraced white nationalism. okay? any words he speaks today i find to be empty, and listen, i'm too busy watching what he's doing to hear what he's saying an this, too, because the fact is the clock is ticking. there are bodies still laying on the ground in blood. and it seem s to me he should b and have a sense of urgency about this and speak to the nation right now. so we know who he is. and, you know, frankly, this is one of the reasons i'm running to get him out of office because the president of the united states has such power and responsibility, rev, especially responsibility, to speak to our values and speak to our better selves and what goes to the lower point and always goes to the lower common denominator and then we see what takes place. people who profit in hate, who traffic hate, who -- that hate which leads to lethal proportion, are being, you know,
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in many ways their speech, their conduct and their perspective elevated by this current president of the united states. >> now, if you were president today, right now, and you were dealing with sunday evening when over the weekend, we've seen these kinds of mass shootings in two locations, what would you do differently than what president trump is doing? >> well, first of all, i would speak to the nation about what we must agree is -- is the core of who we are and what we are and also what we are against. you know, we have to agree that whenever and wherever hate displays itself, we must all speak up and we must allagree, , that whoever is the target of that hate, that they should never be made to fight alone. and those words need to be spoken by leaders. there needs to be an acknowledgement of the reality
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and the truth of the matter which is that racism in our country is real. anti-semitism is real. islamophobia, homophobia, transphobia, is real in our country and must speak to truth even when it makes people uncomfortable. we got to deal with this because we're now seeing yet again, and i'm going be graphic, we're seeing bodies on the ground in blood because of a file year to get all of this stuff under control. and it is not only about the white nationalism and the hate, it is also about gun violence erms with the fact we need ome reasonable gun safety laws in this country. leaders need to lead. leaders need to lead. you know what, folks are hurting right now. folks are hurting and they're in pain and it is obviously the families of those who have fallen and who have died, and it is -- it is their communities and it is all of us who recognize this is just not evidence of a civil society. and we are better than this.
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we can do better than this. >> well, thank you for being with us, senator kamala harris, and i can tell vaughn, i'm not in the presidential race but there's nothing strange about kamala harris going to church on sunday morning. coming up -- >> yeah. >> -- the politics of gun control. be right back. ♪ more, more, more ♪ how do you like it, ♪ how do you like it ♪ ♪ more, more, more ♪ how do you like it, how do you like it ♪ all you can eat is back. how do you like that? applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. you eat right... mostly. you make time... when you can. discuss coolsculpting with your doctor. some common side-effects include temporary numbness, discomfort, and swelling. don't imagine results, see them.
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shooting this year. today is just the 216th day of the year. so far, president trump has expressed his condolences to the people of el paso and dayton with tweets and with a few brief remarks just minutes ago, promising a substantive statement tomorrow morning and telling reporters, "we have got to get it stopped." with this president constantly fanning the flames of division, i can only wonder what "we" he is referring to and how he plans for us to stop it. be right back. don't you get the best price booking at
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do you think president trump is a white nationalist? >> yes. i do. >> i think all of the evidence out there suggests that we have a president who is a racist. who is a xenophobe. who appeals and is trying to appeal to white nationalism. >> i know he's a racist. there's no question in my mind. i think that's pretty well defined at this point. >> while president trump did not actually tell anyone to commit a crime, some say that his racist vitreal has sparked something in the minds of white nationalists. the shooter in el paso ranted about a, quote, hispanic invasion taking place in the u.s. quite similar to words used by
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the president. we should note that this shooting also comes just a week before the second anniversary of the riots in charlottesville. joining me now is terry mcauliffe, the former governor of virginia and author of the book, "beyond charlottesville: taking a stand against white nationalism." govern governor, thank you for being on with us. as you hear what is going on in these, and we focus on this essay that the shooter in el paso clearly talked about a mexican invasion and white nationalism, it brings us back to mind charlottesville which we mark the second anniversary just a week from now and you were governor then. and you were governor when the president said there were fine people on both sides, when
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people were marching for a -- to keep a confederate statue and chanting "jews will not replace us." you've talked about this in your book. how do you look at what we're dealing with this weekend and the president's brief statement as he was getting on air force one tonight? >> well, it's no surprise to me what happened in el paso occurred. charlottesville is when donald trump came out as a full-fledged racist. as a supporter of the white nationalist movement. he had an opportunity -- i talked to the president that day and told him we have a thousand white nationalists, neo nazis in our state screaming the most obscene things i've heard against african-americans and members of the jewish faith. i told the president what was going on on the ground. he needed to come out and condemn them. when i finished the call, thought he'd do the right thing. time went by. he finally came out and said
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there were good people on both sides, would not use the word, neo nazi or white supremacist. reverend, there were not good people on the neo nazi side with torches and swastika shields screaming, ranting. there were not good people on the white nationalist side. he tried to bring a moral equivalency to the white nationalists and counterprotesters who were there to protest against hatred. he failed as the moral leader of the united states. people look to america for moral leadership. he failed that day and el paso is just, you know, another reincarnation and donald trump's language and rhetoric, i always say, you know, i don't blame him for specific acts but there clearly is a link between his hate speech and what he says that people feel it's okay to walk down the street and say these things about other individuals. people used to wear hoods in this country. they used to do it at night. now they do it in broad daylight. are we surprised? as you know in the '70s, he was sued by the nixon justice department. look what he did in the '80s. he went to trump castle.
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they didn't let any blacks on the floor while he walked in. you look what he did with the central park five. when he ran for president, he wanted to ban muslims from coming into this country. i mean, then he calls mexicans all rapists and criminals. none of this should surprise any of us. he because of his rhetoric, he's incited these people and they now feel it is okay. the whole group of them. and as i said that day in charlottesville, when you read the book, go home, get the heck out of virginia, get the heck out of our country, we don't want you. you think you are a bunch of patriots, you're not. you're a bunch of cowards. >> when you had the conversation with the president the day after charlottesville and you were hoping he was going to say more, you told him of the neo nazi and the white supremacist flavor of the march that had happened the day before they caused a death there and he did not after talking to you as governor, he did not address that in his statement when he instead came
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out talking about there were fine people, good people, on both sides. >> good people on both sides. actually, rev, it's even worse. it was that day. i talked to him, like, around noon of the day of what was happening during charlottesville. i explained to him the night before neo nazis, hundreds of them had come on the lawn or the grounds of the university of virginia with their torches screaming "jews will not replace us," chanting chants going back to 1933 and 1934 to nazi, germany. i explained what happened friday fight. i explained saturday what had gone on. i finally declared a state of emergency and cleared the park by 11:45. the rally candidate supposed to start until noon. the president was watching tv, it was all over tv. he knew what was going on. as i say, he brought a moral equivalency to the two different groups. heather heyer was a 32-year-old woman killed that day by this nut who weaponized his car and drove through the crowd and hurt
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35 people and killed heather heyer. he brought a moral equivalency to the counterprotesters like heather protesting against hatred, against racists, against intolerance and compared the two sides. the man is a moral disgrace to our country and he bears responsibility for what is happening in this nation today. >> now, your book, "beyond charlottesville: taking a stand against white nationalism," and i got an advanced copy. you really take on white nationalism. are you challenging this president and whatever statement he makes tomorrow, to do what you think he should have done two years ago? and that is deal with white nationalism by name. >> absolutely. needs to call people out. he was afraid to say white nationalists. he was afraid to say neo nazi. as i speculate in my book, something went on in those couple hours when he delayed his press conference. i don't know who it was. i'm sure the white house got to him, no, no, mr. president, you're not going to say neo
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nazi, not going to say white supremacist, you're not going to inflame our base. how hard is it to come out and condemn those folks? praising hitler, having swust a swastikas. when they exterminated thousands of members of the jewish faith. how hard is that? this is a calculated political position. i'll remind you, he retweeted offensive tweets from the white supremacist movement and the neo nazi movement. >> yeah, he did. >> retweeted h eed them while h running for president. this is who he is. >> terry mcauliffe, thanks for being with us. >> thanks, rev. up next, is it time to deal with the fact that the biggest domestic terror threat is white american men radical ice eradic white supremacy? more when we come back. >> tech: at safelite autoglass,
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threat posed by white supremacist terrorists since saturday's mass shooting in el paso. the gunman identified as a white male in his early 20s left behind an anti-hispanic memo just minutes before he attacked a walmart store two miles from the u.s./mexico border. authorities now approaching the incident as domestic terrorism. joining me now is keegan hankus, senior research analyst for the southern poverty law centers intelligence project. keegan, you and i know that the number of hate groups has risen steadily since president trump took office, but just to clarify this, it didn't start with 2016. as you know, fbi director christopher wray last month said that a majority of domestic terror stem from white supremacist violence and according to the splc, the
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number of total hate groups groups in the united states has more than doubled since 1999. climbing after september 11th. peeking just before president obama's reelection, dipping at the end of his second term and then it spiked. its peek under president trump of 30% increase from 2014 through last year. >> yeah, that's absolutely right. last year in 2018 we counted the largest number of active hate group chapters that we've ever recorded and amun that increase was 50% increase in white nationalist groups. that is very, very large increase for the ideologies that we track and i think it's mirrored in the violence we're seeing erupt all over the country from white supremacists. >> what do you think is embolding them and what do you think needs to be done about it?
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>> the rhetoric coming out of the halls of power in this count cannery, particularly from president trump. his choice to use derogatory and racially-charged language absolutely normalizeses these anti-immigrant believes. and as we saw in the manifesto can lead to extremely violent consequences. >> as we see the fbi director saying this is the biggest threat to national security internal, the domesticing violence, domestic groups of hate, white sprems. whyerant we seeing, in your judgment, more action from the justice department, from the fbi and from the congress? >> well, all sdwru do is look at the numbers to realize this is the largest threat facing the american public. admittedly it's a very difficult problem to solve but the first step would be denunsiations from
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members of the government. these are such hollow from the president that eveten the white supremacists don't believe them. >> so there's no reason for them to evenb fear because we've not heard any real firm declarations, less known threats that we will not tolerate you behaving in a violent and criminal manner in the name of white nationalism or they have not heard it more importantly. >> they feel why do they have to say it loudly if the president will say it for them. >> if you track them and we heard from some brought into and were recruit under to thesis hate groups. a lot of it is so frighten and unbelievable that a lotf of the american public have looked the other way. but as we keep seeing what we're seeing with this essay from elpaseo.
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this is something that won't go away because we ignore it or act like there's a few of us saying because we want to say it. >> taltsz hat's absolutely righ. it's going to take strong response from every part of our society. this the third manifesto sdplaegs the third that we've seen in what period of time? >> in the last six months since the atrocity that happened in new zealand and we're seeing white supremacists attack some of othe most vulnerable places in the country. this young man appears to have driv nl a numb driven a number of hours just to target this specificic walmart. it shows the willingness to commit violence in their service. >> thank you for being with us, keegan. up next my final thoughts. up next my final thoughts.
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the country tomorrow, he needs to deal with one, what we're going to do about guns, how we stop this automatic weapons. there's no reason for people to have these kind of military-style weapons. background checks he needs to deal with. he needs to talk substance and not just platitudes. yes, pray for the families. i'm a minister. but you must get up after your prayers and do some real work. we need to change laws. we need stop acting like these are sporting events where we give the number of deaths like it's a score card. the score card is on our negligence to get things done. and then secondly, mr. president, you need to deal with white nationalism and white supremacy. because the essay that young man wrote is clearly in that vein. the young man in el paso, texas.
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you are very specific with your critics. you attack the squad, call them names. attack elijah cummings, the chairman of oversight. called him a racist this week. when he had defended white colleagues in the congress and where his constituents are large part white. you mocked his burglary. you called me a bigot, a racist, said i don't like whites even though for 25 years you say you know me. why did you call me after you were elected president and ask me to come and meet with you? i've worked with presidents i disagreed with. i disagree would bill clinton on the crime bill but i work would him on civil rights. i work would george bush. this nation will work with you if you stand up and show you're big enough to be president.
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clinton and bush and obama were big enough for the job. let's see how bigging you are tomorrow. can you pull the country together or can you just sit in the dark and tweet against people that you think helps energize your base? that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next saturday 5:00 p.m. eastern. up next "meet the press" with chuck todd. this sunday domestic terrorism in el paso and another mass shooting overnight. in texas, a 22-year-old violent man with hatred over immigrants opens fire with an assault rifle at a walmart on the texas border.
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