two more mass shootings in america on saturday morning, a gunman opened fire in el paso, texas leaving 20 people dead. less than 24 hours later, in dayton, ohio, a shooter opened fire leaving nine dead. >> the man in el paso believe he posted a hate-filled statement and parts mirror president trump's anti-immigrant rhetoric. >> good morning. it is monday, august 5. i'm ayman mohyeldin alongside yasmin vossoughian. we begin in el paso, texas where federal prosecutors are using the shooting in walmart there as

a case of terrorism. the suspect is being charged with hate crime charges. the office will seek the death penalty. the suspect drove about 10 hours to get to the el paso walmart that was packed with back to school shoppers before he opened fire killing 20 people and wounding 26 more. the suspect surrendered without incident. he has been speaking freely and forth coming with information. >> about 20 minutes before the shooting, a hate-filled message on line posted on an extremist website and said the attack was motivated by anti-immigrant hatred specifically posting to a mexican invasion. in the attack in march, a

suspect published an essay on line calling the theory called the great replacement. saying elites in europe have been working to replace people with immigrants. stating in general, i support the christ church shooter. this attack is in response to the hispanic invasion of texas. it potentially underscores the global spread of white supremacist ideology in the age of social media at a time immigration has become a divisi divisive topic. >> some family members have come forward to say their loved ones are among the dead. >> one mother shot and killed shielding her two-month old son

from gun fire. we get hope. >> how do you feel about being a mom? >> again. happy. >> two months ago, she gave birth to her third child. a beautiful baby boy. jordan was one of 20 people tragically killed at the el paso walmart. >> she was incredible. she had a personality that could light up a room. she was an incredible mom too. a wonderful person and she'd give anything for those kids. anything, even her life. >> her and her husband had taken the kids to school. when they heard about the shooting, jordan's sister and parents immediately tried to get in touch with the couple. >> i text them, i was like we are at the unification center. we are praying you are on the

buses and you'll be here but they didn't come. >> jordan had been shot. the family later learning, she died on the way to the hospital. based on witness accounts, they believe the couple did everything they could to protect their infant son. he shielded her and she she'lied the baby. >> the baby suffered two fractures and bruises but is okay. the family still hasn't heard from andre. jordan also mom to two young daughters. >> she keeps asking for her mom and dad. >> the couple had just celebrated their first wedding anniversary, a family left devastated. >> they were just really good people. we want them to be remembered that they were great parents. we are really going to miss them. >> three children left without

parents. joining us now live from el paso. david, good to talk to you. you were at the latest news conference. give us an update on the investigation. >> that investigation still continuing. the crime scene has been reduced. there was speculation maybe it included a mall nearby as well. law enforcement saying it is confined to the walmart you see behind me. the local police department saying all of the 20 bodies in that walmart have been moved to the many he had call examiners office. you see a lot of vehicles here. those will remain as the investigation continues. it is happening in three fronts. el paso, allen, texas about ten hours here and on line. that manifesto is being scrutinized by local and federal law enforcement. that news conference was conducted by the police department here and fbi special

agent here. dozens have been dispatched from headquarters here to focus on terrorism and on victims and working with victims here in el paso. this is the local and state level taking the lead here. the federal government taking this. >> we just saw the profile of the family of jordan and alexandro. tell us more about families coming together. >> yes, an official list hasn't been released yet. we learned identities of some mexican nationals. there was a vigil a few blocks from here at a park. it began with a procession along the third baseline of faith

leaders in el paso and the region. you had the bishop from the community reiterating over and over that this is a safe place and community. the catholic bishop saying the offense against one of us is an offense against all of us. it began last night and ended with a candle light vigil at the end. music from the children's choir. this community coming together wants to be known as a safe place. behind me, candles have been illuminated. the mourning continues here. >> i've heard several point made that this shooter was not from the community. it is a very safe community. >> thank you, david. hours after that mass shooting in el paso, another gunman opened fire outside a

popular bar in dayton, ohio. 9 people were killed when a gunman wearing body armor began shooting. people seen running for her lives when shots began to ring out. >> it continued to happen. it was like pop, pop, pop. once everybody was on the ground. you could see everyone's faces, just terrified. >> just boom, boom, boom. you could tell it was a big gun. not no handgun. >> the shooter, a 24-year-old white male was killed by police within 30 seconds of the first shots being fired. dayton police have not released information on a motive. there is nothing in his history that would have prevented him from obtaining a firearm. one of the victims is identified as the gunman's younger sister.

>> the nation initially remained focused on his own interests. writing donald trump spent the first hours after the tragedies out of sight at his new jersey golf course the first tweet called it, quote, terrible and pledged the total support of the federal government. just 14 minutes later, the president sent a tweet wishing ufc fighter good luck in his bought later that evening and followed up with retweets attacking the left no-nothing blacks and later, social media showed the president posing for a wedding at his private golf club. in the afternoon, he ordered flags to be lowered and spoke to

reporters on his way to the white house. >> i just want to say that these are two incredible places. we love the people. hate has no place in our country. we are going to take care of it. >> we are talking to a lot of people. a lot of things are in the works. a lot of good things. we have done much more than most administrations. it is not talked about very much. we've done actually a lot but perhaps more has to be done. >> rather than do more than any other administration, president trump rolled back their actual work including when trump signed a law in february 2017 that revoked an obama-era rule that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to obtain a gun.

>> joining us now from washington, david, let me begin with you. let me talk to you about trump's reaction or lack thereof to these shootings. the board is calling for him to condemn white nationalism. explain to us, a, the likelihood of that happening when in the past he hasn't and why now? >> i think the likelihood he does so is small given his history as candidate and president. he's always resisted calling out any white nationalist or supremacist that may support for him. it is not necessarily his fault they express support for him but even still, he's resisted criticizing people like that and saying he doesn't want their support and being specific about these sort of individuals the way he is about jihadist

terrorists. there is a difference there in the way he talks about one type of extremists versus another. all our editorial is pointing out, when things like this happen, it is not enough to call out or criticize hate generically as republicans have said after instances of radical jihadism, you have to call it by its name. the editorial makes the point that president needs to call these things out by their name and deal with them for what they are. otherwise, they are going to keep happening. the president, any president, has a unique ability to rally the country together and to be a moral leader in a way that can focus attention on a problem. this is one of the areas in which a president has not always been as comfortable as his predecessors. >> this is a president who has

identified himself as a nationalist and tried to reclaim that word from being a negative word to how it is used. >> especially when you consider who served on the president's staff between steven miller and steve bennett. let's talk about this case being treated as domestic terrorism. the case in el paso, how is this going to make it different from the case in dayton, ohio. especially considering the consequences. >> first, the case in ohio will never be a criminal case because the shooter was killed. it will ultimately just be academic because there will be no prosecution. meanwhile, the hate crime and domestic terrorism charges being discussed for the el paso shooting will be based on federal law, federal civil rights law can result in the

death penalty. keep in mind, texas is also talking about the death penalty. the real threat will be the state of texas, not the federal government. since the year 2001, the federal government has executed three people. in the same period of time, the state of texas has executed about 300 people. in 2019 alone, texas has already executed three people with ten left on the schedule for the year. for a defendant in texas -- i should add two out of the last three federal death penalties were in the state of texas. juries in texas, authorities in texas are much more a meanable to the death penalty to other parts of the country and districts of the federal government. >> i'm interested to get your thoughts. this has become a big topic over the weekend. democrats are trying to push

mitch mcconnell to push for some change on gun laws. if that fails to happen, do you see or expect gun laws in the debate about gun policy becoming a central issue impacting the 2020 elections? >> i think it is in the campaign. at least the democratic presidential primary. these horrible events are going to magnify and focus the candidates attention on this. something democratic voters have been interested in in particular. it is a little more complicated on the republican side. a lot of republicans have tried to figure out how to do something about the violence that has been perpetrated with firearms over the past few years but with solutions and legislation that would impact the instances we have been dealing with and particularly given support of the second amendment, it is much more

difficult for them to come to the source of solutions that democrats tend to favor. >> gentlemen, thank you both. still ahead, acting white house chief of staff is defending president trump in the wake of these two recent shootings. >> democrats are putting pressure on mcconnell and calling on him to cancel the august recess for a gun control vote. those stories and more coming up next. johnson & johnson is a baby company.

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welcome back. despite the president's claim that, quote, hate has no place in our country. his advisors have said sowing division based on identity is part of his 2020 campaign. trump's, quote, reelection strategy so far has placed racial animus at the forefront.

an approach not seen by an american president in the modern era and has been criticized for offering a false equivalency when discussing racial violence after calling them good people on both sides in the case that resulted in the death of a dem vator. >> mulvaney defended president trump and that the president's own rhetoric is helping to fuel violent domestic attacks. >> does the president accept that this is a rising problem. >> let me answer it this way, i talked to the president yesterday afternoon. the first phone call he makes is to bill barr, the attorney general. he ultimately called the attorney general of texas but the first phone call was to bill

barr to find out how we can stop this stuff from happening. yes, he feels the same way you do and everybody watching the show with the exception of cory booker and some people on your panel which is saddened and angry. we've moved straight past sympathy and what caused this and trying to figure out who is to blame. i'll ask this question, was bernie sanders responsible when my friends got shot playing baseball? i don't think he was. was alexandria ocasio-cortez responsible when somebody drove up to a dhs facility with a homemade gun calling it a concentration camp, the same rhetoric she used? was she responsible. i don't think she was. when someone on your council calls out a white national, and a person gets injured today? is that person responsible. >> the questions being raised

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i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside of ayman mohyeldin. we begin in el paso, texas where prosecutors are treating that shooting as a case of domestic terrorism. the district attorney there is treating the 21-year-old white male suspect for hate crime charges which carry the penalty of death. the el paso office will also seek the death penalty. the suspect drove about ten hours to get to the crowded walmart packed with back to school shoppers on a saturday morning and opened fire. killing 20 people and wounding 26 more. the suspect surrendered without incident and we are told he is speaking freely and is being forth coming with information. about 20 minutes before the shooting, a hate-filled statement posted on line and

mentioned a, quote, hispanic invasion of texas. >> 2020 candidate beto o'rourke spoke out about the shooting in the city he previously represented and linked the violence directly to president trump's rhetoric. >> we know there is a lot of injury, a lot of suffering in el paso right now. i'm incredibly saddened. it is very hard to think about this. i'll tell you el paso is the strongest place in the world. this community is going to come together. i'm going back there right now to be with my family and to be with my home town. >> i hope that we are going to be able to lead this country in ensuring that this does not continue to happen, that this is

not the new normal. some preliminary signs that this is motivated by hate ed and by racism specifically against immigrants here in an area that is 85% mexican-american. the majority of those born in another country. the kind that donald trump has warned the rest of america about. invasions and caravans and rapists despite the fact that el paso is one of the safest cities. >> more now from fiphilip mena o

is native to the area. >> reporter: i have family members. it was my aunt and cousin inside the mall when they got word of the shooting. they were able to get out safely, thankfully for us as a family. my brother is a firefighter here in el paso and was among those first on the scene to witness this firsthand. much like my aunt and my cousin, the people that gathered here at the mall and at the walmart w e where all of that took place, they were here shopping, back to school shopping. it is a typical saturday. a place that is highly populated. you have a lot of people come over from mexico. i worked at that mall when i was in high school. you hear a lot of times more spanish than english.

it was specifically targeted against people who look like me, it is very hurtful. i grew up here and never felt as targeted as people feel now. they can't even take their kids back to school shopping. they don't even know how to tell their kids what is happening now. one thing, do we need gun reform? yes, we do. more mental health funding, yes, we do. but hate is not a mental health issue. it hurts. >> thankful your family is safe and thankful for your brother's service as well. >> just hours after that shooting in el paso, am gunman n ohio began shooting. a video shows people running for their lives when shots range

out. the shooter, 24-year-old white male was killed by police within 30 seconds of first shots being fired. joining us now live from ohio. what more are we learning about a possible motive here. it has been a little trickier to identify one in this shooting compared to the texas one. >> reporter: that is right. the motive is still going to be a mystery for quite some time. officials wither able to brief us yesterday and told us the suspect arrived in a vehicle with his sister and another individual and eventually they separated. there are a lot of questions swirling around what exactly happened as they arrived near this location and the gunman opened fire. i do want to point out something that struck me as i arrived on the scene. dayton strong is a phrase folks

are latching on to and we are seeing signs of that healing process. we are standing at the exact location where the shooting took place yesterday morning 1:05 exactly is the time the gun shots range out. 30 seconds later is when officers were able to corner that suspect and kill that individual. the police chief had said that if the gunman made it inside this bar, this situation could have been so much worse as far as that motive, it's still very much unclear. take a listen. >> any suggestion at this time of motive would be irresponsible. we do not have sufficient information to answer the question everyone wants to know. why. we do not have that answer at this time. we will clearly pursue this investigation to try to understand motivation assuming there is motivation that is

understandable. >> in just a matter of seconds, that gunman was able to kill 9, wound 27 others. one individual still in critical condition as of last night. as far as the community starting that healing process, i was out here around 8:00, thousands gathered in this location which has been opened to the public, the mayor was cheered on by the crowd. there was a pivot, a moment that was interesting when the governor took the stage. the crowd chanted, do something. it get a little tense there. emotions are running high as the community moves forward. >> have we heard at all from the shooter's family? >> no. we know that officials have made contact with them. this is probably a very difficult time for the shooter's family because they lost two

individuals. the suspect as well as the suspect's sister. like i said, that connection there, how they arrived at the scene and what led up to them arriving at this location in one vehicle and getting out and separating, those are a lot of questions we still don't have answered. >> thank you, kathy. >> still ahead, more on the weekend's shootings, one republican saying video games are to blame. >> and we'll break down the likelihood that the senate actually reconvenes and the senate majority leader acts. offs your best comfort and protection guaranteed. because, perfect or not, life's better when you're in it. be there with depend®. tthe bad news? ouyour patience might not.ay.

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games to dehumanize individuals i've always felt that is a problem for future generations and others. we've watched studies shown before of what it does to individuals. when you look at these photos of how it took place, you can see the actions within video games. >> let's be clear about this. various scientific studies in addition to the 2011 ruling by the supreme court have found there is no apparent link between playing video games and mass shootings. senate majority leader much mcconnell is recovering after a fall. it is said he tripped on an outside patio send broke his shoulder. his injury comes as a demanding for reconvening after the shooting in el paso and dayton,

ohio that left over 30 people dead. >> good to have you with us. is reconvening the senate a realistic possibility republicans are generally being considered after being left in the hot seat over gun control again? >> look, we'll have to see what senate majority leader much mcconnell says. i don't think it is realistic they'll get together over gun regulation that democratic house has passed. it doesn't fit with what their voters tend to want or where they are philosophically. things could change that if president trump could call for changes, put his political cap call behind it with his base. it is possible senators could reconsider some of these issues. the second amendment and

fidelity to gun rights is one of the most deeply held. as we approach 2020, members of congress unlike the president have to worry about a republican primary. this is an area voters have to vote. they care probably about this issue as much if not more than any other issue that comes up in this contest. >> interesting as you say, it depends on how the president lands on all of this. i believe the last time the president met with the nra after a mass shooting, he was talking about increased gun legislation and background checks and literally made an about face. >> yes. there was talk about banning bump stocks. >> and we saw some of that in some of the meetings after these previous mass shootings both with lawmakers and families of

the victims. he'll have a subsequent conversation and realize he's gone too far a stray and it pulls had imright back. i wouldn't take anything the president might say in the next few days. i wouldn't put too much stock in it unless it is something he continued and you start to hear from other members of his team. he has a habit of reflecting who it is he's talking to. we'll have to see how he chooses to react. we haven't heard much yet. >> important to say the president is making a statement at 10:00 a.m. in response to the mass shootings. coming up, presidential hopeful tim ryan speaks out. >> and president trump and details of a study connecting the dots in the presidential rallies and an up tick of

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welcome back. in the wake of this weekend's mass shootings. ohio representative and presidential candidate tim ryan says the on line posting and rhetoric at praesident trump rallies are almost identical. >> the president throws jet fuel on these fires burning. when i read that manifesto this

morning, it is like a trump rally. there are basically the same phrases in that manifesto you would hear come out of the president of the united states's mouth. that is the most disgusting part of the whole thing. >> white house advisor and first daughter weighed in. as our nation mourns the senseless loss of life in el paso, texas and dayton, ohio and prays for the victims. five hours later, she posted this. white supremacy like all other forms of terrorism is an evil that must be destroyed. >> hate crime violence in the united states has risen. 7,106 instances of hate crimes in 2017. a 17% increase and marks the highest hate crime levels since

2008. finding 58% of the victims were targeted because of race, ethnicity or an sesry.fbi. in addition a study by "the washington post" found that quote counties that had hosted a 2016 trump campaign rally saw a 226% increase in reported hate crimes over a comparable county that did not host such a rally. the paper did note their analysis could not be certain it was the campaign rally rhetoric that caused people to commit more hate crimes in the host county. all right. let's switch gears for a moment and bring in meteorologist bill karins for a check on the forecast. >> good monday morning. a couple of things if you're doing any travel, otherwise, it doesn't like big weather headlines. the temperatures are relatively average in most areas. we have some very strong thunderstorms up around fargo. later this afternoon, if there's

any dangerous weather out here it will be in this area where -- with the enhanced risk of storms, about 16 million people at risk of seeing a chance of severe weather today. damaging wind, maybe some small hail from minneapolis to des moines. milwaukee, davenport, and later on tonight in chicago. for the desert southwest, this is even hot. excessive heat warnings in effect for phoenix, yuma, up to las vegas. easily today above 110 degrees in these areas with the excessive heat. some of the hottest spots can approach 118. that's pretty hot. some of the hottest places, vegas and phoenix up about 111 to 112. then as we go throughout the rest of the week we'll watch afternoon storms today. i mentioned a bad travel day if it's in the northeast, wednesday afternoon. that's when the hit and miss storms will come through. then by the time we end the week, not too bad. just a few storms there in areas of the tennessee valley. so northeast travel, airports, wednesday afternoon and evening could be dicey.

>> all right, thank you, bill. coming, axios' mike allen has a look at "1 big thing." and the nation is left reeling in the back-to-back mass shootings. the latest on the violence in el paso and dayton as the communities demand action to keep similar tragedies from happening again. beto o'rourke and congresswoman veronica escobar will speak out on the shooting in their home state and jerry nadler will weigh in on the actions that need to be taken after the mass shootings. "morning joe" just moments away. after the mass shootings "morning joe" just moments away. we've seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. even a "three-ring fender bender." (clown 1) sorry about that... (clown 2) apologies. (clown 1) ...didn't mean it. (clown 3) whoops. (stilts) sorry! (clowns) we're sorry! (scary) hey, we're sorry! [man screams] [scary screams] (burke) quite the circus. but we covered it. at farmers, we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.

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runner-up country in the world and five times as many mass shooters. but now we're confronting the hate problem and that is -- we have seen the stats in the last 18 months. 63 deaths over seven episodes and the president we saw in the clip earlier, the president are taking a surprisingly passive approach in those remarks. he said hate has no place but he also says perhaps more has to be done. so at 10:00 a.m. today he has a chance to move beyond that. we talked to several alumni of the trump white house who hoped that he'll be much more assertive. one person said to me, he should go on twitter and go on an epic rant against white supremacism and this person said that they know he probably won't do that, but another alumni of the white house said to us that he has a chance to -- a real chance to heal divisions here but just not sure the president has that in

him. >> mike, i'm curious to get your thoughts just to stay on this topic for a little bit longer about america's hate problem when you kind of look at the rise of hate crimes. we put those up on the screen earlier on the program how they have increased year after year during the president's era and we have mick mulvaney saying that the president is not responsible for what is happening. he said he's proudly a nationalist. i'm curious to get your thoughts on your sources on whether or not the administration feels they're flaming this rhetoric that people are describing as racist? >> they don't feel they are, but look at the plain language. an extraordinary moment the front pages of both "the washington post" and "the new york times" today have passages showing echoes of the president's words at rallies in -- with those of the manifesto that we have seen and from other people who are committing hate crimes. so this is why 10:00 a.m. is

such a big moment for the president. how aggressively will he distance himself and will it last? after charlottesville we saw the president rhetorically distancing himself and then of course he became a recidivist and it didn't last. that's the question that people around him are watching, especially for people whose own fates are tied to this president. >> considering the a.p. reporting as well with regard to the campaign strategy and sort of us against them mentality, i'm wondering are you getting any indication that this may change considering what just took place over the last 48 hours? >> we know that has been what's in their mind and jonathan swan has an astonishing scoop up this morning saying that after those tweets by the president about baltimore, people inside the white house said that this was a chance for him to show that he was involved and interested in urban areas. something that hasn't been

reported before. the president seriously entertained the idea of declaring a state of emergency in baltimore which would have let them send in more federal resources. they decided not to do that in part someone in the white house said it doesn't make sense to send more federal resources into the area that you're arguing ask corrupt. >> thanks. we'll be watching axios a.m. in a little bit. you can sign-up at signup.axios.com. >> that does it for us. i'm yasmin vossoughian with ayman mohyeldin. i'm "morning joe." can i just ask is there anything in your mind that the president can do now to make this all better? >> what do you think? you know the [ bleep ] is saying. he's been calling mexican immigrants rapists and criminals. like members of the press, what the [ bleep ]? hold on a second. you know, it's these -- it's these questions that you know the answers to.

i mean, connect the dots about what he's been doing in this country. he's not tolerating racism he's promoting it. he's inciting racism and violence in this country. you know, i just -- i don't know what kind of question that is. >> that is presidential candidate beto o'rourke yesterday in texas where 20 people were gunned down in a domestic terror attack. a hate crime fueled by a white nationalist. hours later, another mass shooting in ohio. in all, nearly 30 dead, dozens wounded in a nation rife with weapons of war and short on the moral fortitude to do anything about it. welcome to "morning joe." it is monday, august 5th. with we have nbc contributor mike barnicle. white house reporter for the associated press, jonathan lemire. professor at princeton university eddie glaude jr. historian, author of the "soul of