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monday night and as we start this new week, thank you so much for being here with us. good night from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. good night from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. >> the death toll is rising after a mass shooting in el paso, texas. authorities are trying to piece together a time line of the gunman's movements president trump is vowing action on gun legislation but has provided little detail >> meanwhile, senate majority leaders put out a statement that made no mention of the wor >> a fight with china sent the stock market rising.
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labeling china a currency manipulator. >> good tuesday morning, everybody. it is august 6. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside ayman mohyeldin. the death toll in el paso now stands at 22. two other victims died. the latest victim, 77-year-old juan. he and his wife were returning curtains when it happened and 60-year-old arturo staff sergent. he retired from the military in 2001. javier rodriguez was honored. we are hearing more from the
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father of andre anchondo who diedon protecting his wife. she was killed trying to protect their two-year-old son. >> they are both heroes. they were doing their job as parents protecting children. >> in gilroy, california please will hold a joint conference. it has been nine days since a gunman opened fire there. the suspect posted white supremacist propaganda before thean attack. they don't believe he was targeting a specific group. >> the president is expected to travel to dayton and el paso in the coming days. he is likely to meet with first responders including some personnel who responded to the
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scene in texas. presidential p candidate beto o'rourke tweeted, this president, who helped create the hatred should not come to el paso. we do not need more division, we need to heal. he has no place here. >> from my perspective, he is not welcome here. he should not come here while we are in h mourning. >> house speaker pelosi and chuck schumeran are calling to cancel the august recess in the wake of the shooting. stating this, in february, the new democratic house majority promptly did its duty and passed the bipartisan background checks act of 2019 which is supported byis more than 90% of american people and proven to save lives. however, mitch mcconnell has calledcc himself the grim reape
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and refuses to act on this and act accordingly. >> in a statement to response claim thatat republicans are, quote, prepared to do our part but made no mention of any time line to do so and failed to use theil word gun at least once. mcconnell promised to protect communities without, quote, infringing on american's rights. only taking us further away from the progress we all deserve. meanwhile, senator alexander is ready to do more especially on background checks and added that the majority leader has tasked the health education community to increase school safety and help americans with mental health issues. >> let's go now to el paso,
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texas. phillip mena is joining us live. how are the people doing there? >> reporter: good morning to you both. i'm sure there are people here in a city of 800,000 people plus that want to see the president comet here. i haven'ter come across any. i'm from here. i haven't heard that. we do know that we have heard from people outside of this city, that in the immediate aftermath of the tragic events people were calling for president trump to come herein st -- in sted of being at a golf resort. others say he can come here
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after he pays the bill he stiffed them on after a campaign. the majority of people here believe he is not welcome. they believe his hateful rhetoric played a role some what in what happened here and a role that led to the 22 people that are dead. >> thank you. please are searching for a motive after this weekend's mass shooting in dayton, ohio. nine people were killed including the shooter's sister. right shnow, it is not clear whether she was an intended victim. there is no indication that race was a motive in this case. former classmates of the gunman are questioning how he would have beenqu allowed to buy the military-style weapon used. they say he was suspended during
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his junior hereof high school after a hit list was skrauled in a bathroom. he came school with a list of female students he wanted to sexually assault. he was carrying magazines if full would have carried 251 rounds. global stocks are under pressure following a massive sell off here in the u.s. as president trump's trade war with chinar once again intensifies. the dow shed 750 points after beijing allowed currency to lower. u.s. stock futures are pointing to a lower open. over the weekend, china's central bank allowed the yuan to weaken beyond seven to the dollar. blamingn the fall on president
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trump'sfa measures and the imposition of increased tariffs on china. beijing confirmed earlier reports it was suspending the purchase of all u.s. agriculture al products. >> the trump administration took the rare step of labeling china as l a currency manipulator. saying they will now engage. the last time the treasury designated any country this way was 1994 when it named china as one. >> joining us now reporter for the washington examiner. good to have you with us. i want to preview the president'sie planned trips to paso and dayton this week. what can we expect? we've been hearing a response
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that people there don't want the perfect easyer to show up in el paso. >> as you mentioned, there are a lotne of people that don't want the president to be in el paso and dayton. one thing weda can expect is people protesting and condemning hisng presence. we can expect from the president partially is what we heard a little bit yesterday, his response to the shooting. condemning hate, trying to at least through words bring the country together. as you know, this president is unpredictable. what we actually see on the groundee is to be determined. >> what do you make of senate majority leader's claim to work on bipartisan gun legislation as someone we know is known for blocking bills that reach across the aisle? >> sure.
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one thing lawmakers and trump have called to do more on is on red flag laws and let people expedite removing firearms from people who are deemed to be a danger to themselves and others. there have been a lot of calls for that that both sides could come to an agreement. i don't think we should expect to see any movement on background check bills that would have moved through the house coming through the senate. >> thank you. still ahead, a florida man who mailed pipe bombs to critics of president trump gets sentences to 20 years of prison. north korea fires off another round of missiles. the fourth launch in less than two weeks. the country is threatening even more. we'll have those stories and a check on weather when we come ba back. johnson & johnson is a baby company.
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the florida man who pled guilty in march to sending pipe bombs has been sentenced to 20 years in prison. a federal judge concluded that sayoc intentionally designed the bombs so they would not detonate. they pushed for 10 years saying he was using large quantities of steroids. he told the court, i am so very sorry for what i did. now that i am a sober man, i know i was a sick man. i should have listened to my mother, the love of my life. danny, what do you make of the 20-year sentence and the defense that he was making and the defense that it should have been reduced. >> from the outset, he was
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always going to serve at least 10 years because he pled guilty. we knew going into it, he was getting at least 10 years. his defense attorneys asked for 10 years and a month. very ambitious. i predicted somewhere on the order of 180 months, which is about 15 years. he got 20 years. essentially, the judge doubled his mandatory minimum. when you consider his sentencing guidelines called for life plus 120 months, he got off pretty easy. i've long said the federal sentencing guidelines are not an ultimate predictor. >> what do you make that he said
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he did not intend or mean to make or send any real bombs. >> it goes with what they call incomplete crimes. you know if you trip running into the bank to rob it, you've still attempted to rob the bank. what sayoc did, even though he sent items that never could have exploded. he could have send a post it know that said kaboom, we say, no. we punish this crime almost as if you had sent real bombs causing the same amount of terror even though there was no physical injury. >> it is relevant to what is happening in texas right now. that is a question of a domestic terrorism statute.
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here is a guy who had a political ideology. he sent it to targets or opponents of the president. the definition used in western texas, it had a political motivation to scare part of the population. why was he not held to this? >> we don't have a federal criminal statute that creates an account for what we know of as domestic terrorism. they have federal hate crime laws, federal firearms laws and the u.s. patriot act creates an expanded authority to investigate all kinds of terrorism that includes domestic style. even if the u.s. district attorney made it -- i don't want to say misspoke but saying this is what it is. this is domestic terrorism.
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even if there are no actual federal charges titled domestic terror, there are so many others that ensure you can punish someone for this kind of conduct that you don't necessarily need to label it domestic terror. then again, maybe we do need a statute that specifically targets. >> maybe something like that needs to change considering what has taken place. >> and on what we are spending on resources to fight international terrorism. >> yes, do we investigate americans the same we investigate overseas? the answer to that legally is often no, sometimes yes. >> let's take a check on the weather with bill karins. >> pretty quiet morningov overa.
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this storms near minneapolis created some epic sized hail. one, two, up to four-inch long hail. that's about as big as you get anywhere especially middle of the summer. in chicago, some sprinkles. a little tail there left over. i'd keep that umbrella handy in case they do but they are falling apart quickly. let's go through the maps today. isolated hit and miss showers and storms. driving interstate 70, you could get hit with some brief heavy rain. i don't expect any large hail or severe weather. the same for cleveland up into buffalo. by the time we get to tomorrow morning, it dies off as typically does in the summer. very humid air mass in the northeast.
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we'll spark significant showers and thunderstorms. from the hudson valley. new york city could get some heavy rain and strong storms. again, wednesday afternoon, evening, it looks like one of those days at the airport will see significant delays. rainfall totals aren't a big deal. pretty warm. still hot in areas of texas. if you have travel plans at the airport. afternoon and evening, sometimes airlines will give free switches. i haven't heard of that yet. >> i haven't either. >> i have. they give you heads up. >> i've been flying the wrong airlines. i don't get that lucky. >> still ahead in the wake of this weekend's mass shootings, president trump and top republicans are blaming video games. we'll look at what the research actually says about that. stay with us.
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>> welcome back. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside of ayman mohyeldin. reacting to the mass shootings that included the deadliest hate crime against latino in modern american history president trump prepared a statement seeking action but offering few details. "the new york times" reports since january nearly one in five trump campaign ads on facebook have included the word invasion to describe immigrants as a growing threat. the president mistakenly offered his support for toledo, ohio, he made no mention of hispanics in el paso. >> the shooter in el paso posted a manifesto on line consumed
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with racist hate. our nation must address racism, bigotry and white supremacy. these ideologies must be defeated. we must recognition the internet has provided a dangerous avenue for disturbed minds. mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger, not the gun. we must make sure that those judges to pose a grave risk to public safety do not have access to firearms and if they do, those firearms can be taken. i have called for red flag laws also known as extreme risk protection orders. >> president trump's remarks did not include a proposition he twee tweeted three hours earlier to
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link background checks to an unspecified reform bill. the confusion grew out of a weekend the president spent watching and reacting to news largely in isolation to his aids that recognized by sunday night he needed to do more. recognizing that background checks would be easy to endorse but trump was uncertain about it. in the early circulation, they did not mention background checks. aids wither startled to discover that president sitting in the white house residence had posted the tweet linking the two issues. in a small meeting with president trump, aids argue that linkage was a mistake and the president dropped the immigration idea and background check from his remarks yesterday. >> president obama is speak out in a lengthy statement. the former president called for stricter gun control laws and
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took a rare semiveiled swipe at president trump. saying this, we should soundly reject language coming out of the mouths of any of our leaders that feeds a climate of fear and hatred. leaders who demonize those who don't look like us or refer to other people as sub human or imply that america belongs to one certain type of people. such language is not new. it has been at the root of most human tragedy throughout history in americaer and around the world. it is the root of slavely, jim crow, the genocide in rwanda and more. it is time for the overwhelming majority of americans of good will of every race and good faith and political party to say as much clearly and unequivocally.
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>> presidential candidate cory booker will deliver a speech and discuss the, quote, rising tide of hatred and white nationalism at the place where a man took the lives of people at a bible study in 2015. he will also hold a town hall and meet and greet around the state. we'll also hear from mayor pete buttigieg on "morning joe" later today. senate majority leader mcconnell posted this tweet calling him.
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responding, quote, hours after the el paso shooting, he tweeted this photo. i find it so troubling that our politics have become so nasty and personal that leaders are using photos of death. i'm fine with the normal rough and tumble of politics. but this strikes me as beyond the pale. >> chicago is dealing with the new reality clocking in the deadliest violence of the weekend. seven people shot and killed with 52 more wounded by gun fire. the youngest victim included a five-year-old boy shot in the leg sitting in a car.
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the emergency room was overwhelmed it temporarily stopped accepting patients with gun shot wounds early sunday morning. saying the deadly violence, quote, unfortunately happens every weekend and called for trump to create stricter gun laws. joining us, our guest. let's discuss a little about president trump's address to the nation on the latest mass shootings. how did it go over in washington? did it strike the right tone or change anything? >> certainly, trump did address the many calls from both sides to condemn white nationalism, which he did do in his statements. certainly from a lot of democrats in congress and on the democratic presidential campaign trail, that was not enough. they thought that tone of his speech did not necessarily match what he's been saying about a
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lot of these issues, immigration issues and gun violence issues leading up to this. it was a speech he read from a script. there was certainly a lot of banter and making fun of his flub when he said toledo instead of dayton, ohio. it is unclear if that was on the prompter or if he made that flub himself. but sort of the catalyst to decry the entire speech. tim ryan who is running for president wonders if president trump has the mental capacity to be the leader of this nation. >> beto o'rourke has been speaking a lot about what took place there and the lives lost and what needs to change. pete buttigieg will join
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"morning joe" later to discuss as well. how are 2020 democrats shaping their campaigns in light of the most recent mass shootings? >> it is sort of an interesting situation. nobody wants to be accused of taking advantage of a tragedy to advance their political campaigns but at the same time, if you are running for president, this is a time to show you have what it takes to lead a nation and be a messenger. i think beto o'rourke has certainly gotten a lot of praise for his handling of the situation. he's had very emotional, raw responses, which have been condemned by a few conservatives but for the most part praised by many people. as you mentioned, cory booker will be speaking at the scene of the tragic charleston shooting. that is another opportunity for him to bring his message.
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cory booker is another candidate with a wide ranging and what he calls the most comprehensive gun, violence reform plan of all the 2020 candidates. this is an opportunity for him to tout that as well. >> thank you, emily. still ahead, north korea fires off another round of missiles. its fourth in less than two weeks. the warning pyeongchang is giving in the wake of those launches. >> your first look at "morning joe" is back in a moment. es. (vo) verizon knows everyone in your family is different. there are so many of us doing so many different things. (vo) that's why verizon lets everyone mix and match different unlimited plans. sebastian's the gamer. sebastian. this is my office. (vo) and now with more plans, everyone gets what they need without paying for things they don't. new plans start at just $35. the plan is so reasonable, they could stay on for the rest of their lives. aww, did you get that on camera? thanks, dad!
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the u.s./south korea joint exercises. north korea claims those are preparation for war. president trump previously adopted that language calling them war games instead of exercises. trump said the situation is very much under control and that these, quote, missile launches are just short-range missiles. a lot of other countries test that kind of missile and they are not breaking any international agreement, which they are. >> they are. let's check the weather. >> in st. louis area, the storms should be all said and done before the peek of rush hour. isolated storms today in philly and new york. typical storms in florida today.
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hot in texas but worse last week. very warm in the inner mountain west. in the northeast, humidity will be higher. we'll get those airport and travel delays in the afternoon and evening. here is how it looks wednesday afternoon. strong storms possible, maybe strong hail for philly and areas. that could cause some delays wednesday afternoon. on the roads, we'll get the minor problems too. throughout northern portions of new england, we'll likely get pouring of rain. it shouldn't be as strong of storms there. we'll be updating you the last couple of days what is happening in hawaii with the two hurricanes. the last of them is making the close approach. for our friends in hawaii, brief heavy downpours and maybe isolated flooding at worse.
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i'm happy to tell everyone, in the atlantic basin, everything is as quiet as it gets for august. we are not looking at anything in the tropics for the next week or ten days which is great because in august, we are going to get some big storms. still ahead, markets ahead of the steep sell offs. >> we'll look at the markets and whether more heavy losses could be on the horizon. we'll be right back. fights cancer, repairs shattered bones, relieves depression, restores heart rhythms, helps you back from strokes, and keeps you healthy your whole life. from the day you're born we never stop taking care of you. why go with anybody else?
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>> welcome back china's move and hoping to impact the move by allowing the yuan. making chinese goods cheaper to sell abroad which can allow businesses to more easily absorb the new tariffs trump has imposed. the president weighed in saying this, it's called currency manipulation. are you listening, federal reserve? adding this, based on the historic current manipulation it is more obvious to everybody, americans are not paying for the tariffs. the u.s. is taking in tens of billions of dollars. >> the tensions are putting
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global markets under pressure. let's go over to cnbc live from london. how bad is it today following yesterday's massive sell off in new york. >> in asia today, it has been a pretty negative day. they've closed the markets now. the major markets in japan and the heavier markets here, we are seeing a bit of stablization. all the major markets rebounding. yesterday was the worst since the brexit referendum. now it looks like some green shoots again in terms of pricing. something else we saw yesterday is the price of oil and natural gas, typically a baro meter for global economy. they too are rebounding slightly
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today. the current kourns country si m. trying to the safe havens like the yen or the swiss franc, they're weakening today. a sign that the investors are slightly less nervous than 24 hours ago. >> what are you hearing, willem, from traders in terms of expectations of whether this is going to continue to get worse before it gets better? >> yes, so i had quite a few conversations as you can imagine with analysts this morning and quite a few of them are saying, look, this could be much, much more significant than what we have seen in the past because if we end up with a currency war between the u.s. and china this is a new set of tools in their respective arsenals. these currency markets obviously we see daily movements that are significant, and we saw hugely increased volatility it would be very challenging for central banks to try to manage that. that might be one of the things that you alluded to from there
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president trump's comments to the federal reserve. they're worried about some other issues, we have a slowdown in growth because big countries like germany, like italy that export all of their goods they are seeing the global trade slowdown. that's affecting their domestic economies. quite a range of issues but the idea that the chinese would be prepared to weaken their currency is something we haven't seen for quite some time and it's not the first time that the treasury has called them a manipulator since 1994. >> thanks, willem. coming up, axios has a look at the "1 big thing." and more on president trump's ideas on how to combat gun violence. and mayor pete buttigieg would talk about how he'd address the issue and plus, sherrod brown of ohio will discuss dayton's recovery.
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welcome back. joining us from washington, d.c., with a look at axios a.m., cofounder and ceo, good morning. what is the "1 big thing"? >> we are looking at the era of white nationalism. in the wake of the shootings, lots of people are exploring this rise in extremism and the rise in domestic terrorism and more democrats than republicans are sort of calling it out. a lot of republicans are still not calling it out, but if you look at the fbi figures, look at law enforcement figures there's been a huge surge, 2018 was the worst year since 1995 for right wing extremism and violence flowing from it. this year will be worse than last. and this goes to the trends they talked about for months in the segments which is because of the reality that the white population is shrinking in
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america, it's really changing the politics of places like texas where one of the shootings took place and it goes to the heart of donald trump's strategy in terms of revving up this us versus them politics. now when it gets revved up to this level, things like this can happen. >> tech companies have been slow at the start but thank you inor increasingly saying they'll work more closely with law enforcement to fight white nationalism. what is the view of working with the white house and the justice department? >> they tell us they're willing to do it. they're all skeptical that donald trump will join them in this effort but social media is another one of those new dynamics that's made this nastiness capable of
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metastasizing at a much faster rate. if you were on the lunatic fringe, had a crazy idea you might be able to gat we are a couple of people in a bar in the corner and talk. now you can find lots of like-minded people both on the big platforms that all of us pay attention to and then in the back water 8chan and other places. back water social media places that people can gather and they can share their extremist views. it is really hard for law enforcement to get at domestic terrorism. it's much easier when you're fighting international terrorism because of some of the post 9/11 laws. law enforcement just can do a lot more. they can basically eavesdrop a lot easier. they can intervene much more smoothly. but when you get to domestic terrorism, we're all protected by free speech which is awesome except for when you want people to be able to move quickly to be able to prevent mass catastrophe. and that is where law enforcement's hands are tied. i think it probably starts with a recognition on both sides this is a real problem.
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that the data -- you can't argue with the data. that if 2018 is worse than 2017, it's a crisis and we have more of an innept and urgent threat than some of the terrorism that we have worried about post 9/11. so far, washington is not responding appropriately or accordingly. >> but even with international terrorism while isis was on the rise, i believe it was in 2014 and 2015 creating twitter accounts and trying to recruit people online that conversation was going on as well as to whether or not twitter and companies like that should be helping law enforcement identify these accounts that are being opened up by isis and shut them down. they seemed reticent to do it back then. >> yeah. very reticent. again, like the social media companies like are all saying, let's do more to clamp down on hate speech, extremism and they have, but not like they're eliminating it. it is very hard to eliminate. remember how much is taking
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place on the platforms that you're all aware of. like the facebook and twitters and then the back water platforms it is hard to police this stuff. especially when you have a nation that's wrapped itself around free speech which is a beautiful thing. it's a defining thing for our country but it allows this stuff to take place. makes it really hard for law enforcement. makes it hard for private enterprise to be able to clamp down. sort of one of the advantages sometimes that the authoritarian regimes have, because they can say here we'll do it, and they do it. here it's a lot harder. you have seen nastiness proliferate on the extreme side and on the less extreme side but a lot more of it everywhere. >> jim vandehei, don't move, we'll see you on "morning joe" in a moment. to all of our viewers you can sign up for the newsletter at signup.axios.com. >> that does it for us on a tuesday morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside ayman mohyeldin. "morning joe" starts right now. we are joined together today
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