tv Deadline White House MSNBC August 6, 2019 1:00pm-2:00pm PDT
1:00 pm
msnbc app. you can find me on twitter, instagram, snapchat and linkedin. nicolle wallace begins right now. >> it's 4:00 in new york. dividers keep on dividing. donald trump losing the battle between his teleprompter self and twitter self lashing out against former president obama urging them to reject language coming out of the mouths of any of our leaders that feeds fear and hatred. president obama's warning came at the same time as reports emerged as the 2020 campaigns using facebook ads to amplify his claims of invasion of immigrants, the exact language used by the el paso killer.
1:01 pm
and a city still reeling from the weekend violence, the "washington post" greg miller, "there is deep concern among national security officials and experts that trump not only incites the far rights and policies but impedes the government's ability to respond. as for the president's constant contradictions of the u.s. intelligence attack we have a growing body of language of trump supremacy that has a different tone on law enforcement. listen to the president on white supremacist. >> i don't know anything about david duke or what you're talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. >> would you repudiate david duke? >> i would if it made you feel better. >> i don't know this group. you don't want me to condemn a
1:02 pm
group i know nothing about. i have to look. >> i think it's blame on both sides. >> i think it's a small group of people that have very very serious problems. if you look at what happened in new zealand, perhaps that's a case. i don't know enough about it yet. >> how about that? we start with our favorite friends at the table. tim o'brien, the host of saturday night politics on msnbc, donny deutsch is back and reporter for the "washington post," lashley parker and nbc news correspondent, julia ainslie here and political reporter, aaron blake is back. let me start with you, lashley parker you and your colleague have a great piece about the battle of teleprompter trump and twitter trump. most feel the twitter trump is the true trump. it didn't take long for your story posting for it to emerge
1:03 pm
this morning. >> that's right. so striking about watching his speech yesterday was at this point in his presidency, anyone following him closely understands president trump can stand up and read words from a tell prompter, although he did have that toledo flub, it's worth noting. he can deliver a speech. we have this version of himself, the scripted version, the version aides want to portray in these moments, offering a repudiation of trump in other forms. himself on twitter, rallies, general behavior, the way he spoke during the campaign and often follows a pattern that emerges today, he will give the scripted thing sometimes looks like a hostage video and unhappy with the coverage and forced into it and begin again to lash out at twitter and reallies and other comments and sort of say a bit of everything, but the truest version of himself often,
1:04 pm
as tim said in our story, is twitter trump. >> it would be funny if it weren't so tragic and lives weren't at risk, julian ainslie. you have a story for us. we have a problem. federal agencies scramble to fight domestic terror with limited resources. take us through limited resources with federal agencies fighting domestic terror that the el paso shooting is being prosecuted under. >> that quote came from dhs officials yesterday after they were scrambling to get information out to local law enforcement agencies to flag trends or threats. one could be the facebook groups, hate speeches propagating and carry it out in el paso. the problem is the dhs in the
1:05 pm
past two years had drastic cuts to the very programs that would be used to get this information out to law enforcement. they completely reassigned domestic terrorism analysts and they have a new office that deals with domestic terrorism prevention and much wider than domestic terrorism and went from $20 million in the old office to a $2.6 million budget with just eight people assigned to this wide mission. the other thing they've done, they've cut funding to local prevention groups, like a group we talked to in nebraska that helps public health workers work to see some warning signs to get help to them and talk to their families before they become radicalized whether influenced by a domestic group or foreign
1:06 pm
group, if they're about to take action because they've been influenced online, they can get out to them. those funds stopped for those groups in july. no longer are those prevention groups getting funding. while the president is going out and saying he wants to invigorate agencies to come together and stop this problem, the money simply isn't there to carry those things to fruition. >> aaron blake, it's more than a money problem. your colleague, greg miller caught my attention mostly on his body of reporting on the incredible challenge the intelligence agencies had fighting the russian attacker with a president who destroyed notes and only had russian interpreters in the room when he met with vladamir putin, among other things and his incredibly reported book as well. when he tweeted this it caught all our attention here. there is deep concern that trump not only incites the far right with his words and policies but
1:07 pm
impedes the government's ability to respond. i said this last night on our special, forever i were an algorithm, i were a computer and it was my job to go ding ding ding, when there were interceptions between donald trump's twitter feed and mega rallies and words on white supremacist websites and in this case from the el paso killer, there would be a whole lot of hits. >> there are parallels how the president talked to issues regards the intelligence commission and russia. it was telling last month when christoph christopher wray, the fbi director was asked about terrorism arrests since october. he said the majority in this fiscal year were having to do with white supremacy. there were ways he could have massaged that comment to make it not such a big headline.
1:08 pm
he seemed to be sending a message this was an issue that needs to be dealt with. that's the kind of thing that people who work for president trump in law enforcement and intelligence commit are reluctant to say something the boss wouldn't like. christopher wray seemed to have a concerted desire to put this on the map. i think the fact those words were shortly before what we saw this weekend in el paso was some striking timing. striking, guess, tim, here we go again. the intelligence committee had to fight with russia with one hand behind our back with a president who stood in helsinki,ion about those intel guys and gals. putin is real strong. putin, after the mueller report was received, after donald trump
1:09 pm
heralded it, unheralded it, sitting next to the president and asked if he would ask him to stay out of our lives, he did it glibly as a joke. chris wray didn't have to underscore the threat of white supremacy. we have law enforcement fighting against white supremacy, when the messages were in ads paid for. the trump campaign bought ads on facebook with the same attacks on immigrants in the killer's manifesto, the invasion claim. president trump's facebook advertising campaign has harnessed the invasion of the southern border and the same he voiced at campaign rallies and twitter. since january, trump's re-election campaign has posted 2,000 words on facebook that include the word "invasion," a dominant theme of his reelection
1:10 pm
messaging. >> the conclusion to draw from that, they know exactly what they're doing. we talked about trump doesn't think he's a visceral editor but he is a marketing and understands the core and power of repeating things time and again. i have a hard idea believing that particular facebook campaign with the focus on the word "invasion" didn't have his hands in it. remember the mid-terms, the caravans are coming. he might have been orson welles, war of the worlds, these aliens from outer space will take over your border and your country. his lack of humanity, he's weaponizing racism here and distinguishes him from every other president from the modern
1:11 pm
era, judicious to what was used and haven't flagrantly weaponized the language. we said for some time, what is the out come going to be. i think the reason this weekend has captured americans' hearts and concerns, this is the language and outcome of the kind of outcome again. >> i want to go back to my business, ceo guy. i just play a journalist on tv. i get brought in to solve problems. to me, beyond the obvious outrage, a couple solutions i was thinking about. unless we get rid of trump, mcconnell and assault weapons in one form or another this continues. it just does. we cannot live in a society where there is a product that exists where its sole function is to kill people in masses.
1:12 pm
87% of fatalities come back to assault weapons. putting all three together, what i would recommend for the democrats, from here on in, 10% of every donation to my campaign goes to a fund. i'll quit my job and manage this business of getting rid of assault weapons. every candidate running for congress, senate, president. you will end up with a pot of maybe half a billion dollars out of that and at the same time, start something called assault on assault, every american gets $5, a war chest between half a billion and a billion. give it to me, i will lead this network and start to move that needle. a lot is about money. the other thing, the media has a job at this point. trump is the dawn of hate. i love my good friend, joe
1:13 pm
scarborough. it's about hate, the greatest word we have. love the most universal hated word is hate. we can't let go of two weeks ago he tweeted and stood up, send them back to immigrants or to people of color. two weeks later in a manifesto that mimicked just about everything, there was a slaughter. that is a fact, no greater articulation of heat. if the media keeps alive that story and does not let the parade pass there is not a political issue between now and 2020 that could not somehow tie back to that story. let it live nearly everyday. at the same time, raise $12 billion to get rid of assault weapons and at the same time we can get those two jerk-offs out of office.
1:14 pm
>> those reluctant to engage trump in the news cycle. susan rice, former national security advisor, most dangerously, president trump is serving up to our adversaries an ever more divided and weakened america, one with suspicion and incapable of the external threats. russia, above all, continues to exploit and exacerbate these divisions. president obama very reluctant and the only person more reluctant is my old boss, president george bush to step in the political crossfire, both of them weighing in. is there a sense this is different? >> i think especially president obama weighing in was just so striking. you're right. he almost never says anything.
1:15 pm
that was his ethos, he's no longer president and he will step back and let the next leader do what they want. although he didn't name president trump in that statement, it was very clear who he was talking about, the language he was talking about. this may, on the democratic side be different. wasn't those individuals, every single candidate saying something. on president trump's his allies are saying, they're using this for cynical ends to try to reboot their campaigns or political ends. you look at the democratic field, because we have been living with mass shootings so long, back column columbine, it just a political issue, not just a national security issue. at this point, just about everyone in this country has
1:16 pm
been touched by gun violence or knows someone touched by gun violence in some way and i think you're seeing that animate the discussion at least on the left. >> the divisions reaching a boiling point of concern for a lot of former elected officials. let me read you something else greg miller tweeted about. there is actually a russia nexus here. isn't there always? russian trolls amplify hate. i know we liven dog years of news cycles. donny makes a good point nothing stay is around. if anyone remembers any headline from mueller's testimony, it was when he answered republican congressman herd, while we sit here, russia is still it an and these divisive messages, exactly. the russia attack and these kinds of messages of racial
1:17 pm
division. >> when we first heard the details of robert mueller laid out in his in diameter of 13 russians, and how they intended to influence the elections, a lot of americans say, i couldn't have been influenced. i think there is a slow creep in our culture, whether through election interference or online, a number of ways. i'm so struck in the way law enforcement has to put these different things in different buckets. a divisive tweet from a russian bot. that would go in a counter intelligence bucket to see where it's coming from and how they interfere with russian influence. an islamic terrorism group, you could take action. even if they're just driving someone to the airport because we have material support
1:18 pm
statutes. that does not exist talking about hate speech focused on a u.s. born ideology like white supremacy. we do not keep the same hate lists for groups as foreign terrorist organizations. the ways our laws are written, it keeps people in the fbi and justice department from an extremist with foreign ideology. we don't have a domestic terrorism statute. >> the laws all changed after 9/11. all the laws changed. i worked in the white house. the first thing the white house did after they grounded all the
1:19 pm
planes and response was to change all our laws so the war of global terror is fought with different weapons. i'm struck no laws are discussed, no one talking about arming the fbi with tools the fbi called domestic terror in the same way fbi fought islamic terror. am i missing something? is there something going on in washington about the new face of terror or as julia ainslie testified, mueller said, there's no apparatus to get involved with white supremacy until there is violence. if we all fought the war on terror like that we might be dead. >> the reason there is no discussion like this is the oval office. republicans are having a tough enough time talking about white
1:20 pm
nationalism and white supremacy sims and the manifesto the shooter wrote in el paso. talking about expanding domestic terrorism laws, it's not difficult to see how that could be cast highlighting the president's rhetoric and separate from the fact the president can't talk about these things or struggles to talk about these things when he's not on a tell prompter. until we see the president make an approach like that, we won't see them entertain things. i wouldn't be surprise if we saw presidential candidates talk about this or talk about how this is one of the reasons we need to get the president out of office because this is something we can immediately talk about doing given a rise in white
1:21 pm
supremism and violence in this country as told by the fbi director for president trump. >> i never thought i would live to see democrats gain on white supremacy and national terrorism but here we are. the community is still grieving. one of its representatives say he is not welcoming there. >> the 2020 candidates unload and reject policy of division. we go inside mitch mcconnell's efforts to block gun control measures in this history of targeting the shooting. he sh. but we're also a company that controls hiv, fights cancer, repairs shattered bones, relieves depression, restores heart rhythms, helps you back from strokes,
1:22 pm
and keeps you healthy your whole life. from the day you're born we never stop taking care of you. dprevagen is the number onemild memopharmacist-recommendedng? from the day you're born memory support brand. you can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. prevagen. healthier brain. better life.
1:23 pm
1:24 pm
1:25 pm
click, call or visit a store today. he needs recognize his role. he needs recognize that those words have power. he needs apologize and he needs to take them back. only after he does that should he be welcomed into our community. >> strong words for president trump from el paso's congresswoman, veronica escobar. anchor and producer from npr's latino usa. you had the privilege of speaking to so many people there. the story that comes through is co-existence of grief, rage and resilience. tell us what you're hearing today. >> i would say that's about
1:26 pm
right. nicole, i think what i'm experiencing, i've been to el paso a lot, many many times. what you know about the people in this community is actually the opposite of everything 45 talks about. this is a community where the people from mexico and the latinos and white folks who live in el paso, it's like there is no border. the fact they feel so targeted is quite shocking for them. we've been doing this a long time and suddenly, this president puts a bullseye on us. what was surprising to me was last night when i flew in and we came straight here. behind us is the walmart and where the altars are set up, candles and praying and singing last night. this is not a community of people deeply political. it's just not what they do.
1:27 pm
last night, i spoke to that woman who works at walmart. she wasn't on staff by chance. she was shot. she said, i've been thinking about the people of puerto rico and poured into the streets and got rid of their leader. i'm thinking about what about us? what about us? lets get rid of elsenor, she called him. she didn't want to call him president, trump, nothing. el senor. seeing that is interesting. it is the safest city and life goes on, we know this after surviving september 11th. activity, things were bustling. we were at the best burrito shop this morning. they're doing as we did in new york. [speaking non-english] they say we will not take this fear, we absolutely were attacked. we will respond with love and changing the narrative.
1:28 pm
i'm mexican, too. this not who we are. this is what happens when we the journalist say over and over when this man in the white house says, it's not true, we have to disprove it. it's not true. >> i spoke to a member of the state board of education yesterday and said, what do you need from the country? she said, what i need from the country is to stop being called criminals. she's getting at blunter part of the point you're making. a community where they're resilient and loving hand life goes on. they also had enough. enough of the bs and you heard it from o'rourke, too. stop mincing words. we will heal and get back on our feet. enough with the bs as a direct line between the oval office and to us. >> i've been a journalist for a
1:29 pm
while now. when i started saying in the late 1990s because of what ellie zelle told me, because he survived the holocaust. he told me never use the term illegal. no such thing as illegal immigrant, illegal bike rider or illegal taxpayer, no, a taxpayer who did a crime, an immigrant. when i was saying this to my fellow journalists, the response was i got sadly was, you know, you're a little too close to this story? aren't you mexican? an immigrant? you're getting too close. this is too close to you. for us, latino immigrant, mexican women, when we see that headline on the "new york times" all of us, we don't have to prove the relationship between what 45 is saying and this white
1:30 pm
supremacist did. the connection is there. instead of giving him a platform, many latin to thes said they had a hard time listening. they didn't want to listen. you're telling us this and behind your back you probably crossed your fingers. >> maria, donny deutsch, being you're down there and such a woman of passion, get the people and take to the streets with families of victims and say, we don't want you. you don't get to be the provocateur and the healer. we want george w. bush and we want barack obama and you are not welcome here. to me, he has blood on his hands. stop just complaining. get the people together. the media will cover it and say, you cannot be a cause of a problem and then come down and wrap your arms around us.
1:31 pm
you are not worthy of that. take to the streets and let the country see that you don't want him there. we invite george w. bush, invite barack obama because we need to heal. >> right. i just want to remind people those of us who were in new york, this community is feeling like what we felt after september 11th. they're in a total state of trauma. imagine if what would have happened three or four days after 9/11, come out. i don't know it's in that nature. i put it on my twitter feed. what a message that would be. >> do it with love. not just immigrants, everybody with heart signs we want love not hate. you're not invited. let him walk into that. kill him with love.
1:32 pm
he's not welcome. he is not worthy. he is the cause. you don't get to be the solution. >> i think you're posing a challenge to the people of el paso, like i have, to say take to the streets because that's our democracy. i think there's also a challenge to our fellow journalists, to not carry -- to not carry president trump coming to el paso, to not carry him, to show anything but him to show the manifesto, to not show him. >> let me make sure i understand your point. i'm very sensitive to not amplifying messages of hate. let me understand your point. to show the community, what's your -- tell me more. >> so, look, there has been -- for latinos and immigrants we
1:33 pm
understand this was the greatest hate attack against us with assault weapons we have ever seen. there needs to be a direct understanding of that. nicole, sadly, our fellow journalists are not zeroing on that. on twitter feed this needs to be in the headlines, latinos are under attack because of donald trump. that's what they want to see. the message to us as journalists, what is our responsibility. >> tell us now. what is our responsibility? a lot of us want to get it right. what is the answer? >> this is the $64 million question. >> anyone can answer it, you can. >> well, what i think we need to do is i think we need to be
1:34 pm
smarter. we as journalists in the united states of america are being had. we have not looked around and said, what's our lesson. >> i couldn't agree more. >> we have to take cues from the people that lived through this. for example, you turn your back and don't give him an opportunity. you send in your interns and don't allow him to be amplified and don't put in bold double letters what this man is saying we know is not true. he said, in his home, you saw this, in florida, he said, somebody yelled out, shoot 'em, he said, you know what, you might be able to get away with that in the panhandle. why are we thinking twice about this? we are being killed because we are latinos, mexicans and immigrants. this is where i step aside as a journalist, this is hard, i am talking to everybody. there is a plea here.
1:35 pm
this is like taking off my journalist hat. i'm not sure what the plea is. there's a plea here, desperate plea from latinos and latinas. you're asking, what is it? we're in mourning, we're in shock, traumatized. we need all kinds of love and support. i guess what i'm saying, yeah, one way of showing love would be this network saying we will not carry your lies. i hate to say that. >> maria, promise me this, when you come back you will sit at this table and we will have a longer conversation on this very topic. >> i love what do you, nicole, i was on hiatus for a while. this is what you do about creating that dialogue. consider me there. >> we'll save you a seat and move donny over. thank you for seeing us and please come back any time you
1:36 pm
want. thank you. after the break, the 2020 democratic candidates speak out forcefully against donald trump's racist rhetoric as the nation grapples with domestic terror. is this a tipping point? s a tip, so i only pay for what i need. then i won the lottery, got hair plugs, and started working out. and so can you! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ you should be mad they gave this guy a promotion.
1:37 pm
you should be mad at forced camaraderie. and you should be mad at tech that makes things worse. but you're not mad, because you have e*trade, who's tech makes life easier by automatically adding technical patterns on charts and helping you understand what they mean. don't get mad. get e*trade's simplified technical analysis. who used expedia to book the vacation rental which led to the discovery that sometimes a little down time can lift you right up. expedia. everything you need to go.
1:39 pm
this is a president who is part of the problem. he's using words like "invasions," "infestations." >> the attack two days ago was an attack on the latino community. that is due in part to the climate this president has set. >> this white house and party doesn't want to act because they're embarrassed about their own relationship to this extremist ideology at home. that is no excuse for allowing it to fester and many cases allowing it to kill. >> the fact we have a president of the united states, who is clearly a racist, who has clearly been motivated by
1:40 pm
speaking to the lowest common denominator. >> mr. president, it's long pastime you addressed it for what it is. this is hatred pure and simple and being fueled by rhetoric so divisive causing people to die. >> in a race that has been all about moments, the condemnation we've seen from the 2020 candidates in the wake of this weekend's mass shootings show us they're seizing this one, showing voters who they are and holding donald trump accountable. the "washington post" notes how unprecedented these reactions have been, "it is not unusual for candidates to blast a president from the opposing party. but the speck tackling of the party's leader saying a sitting president paved the way for a mass shooting lights the hostile fractured nature of this political moment.
1:41 pm
heidi, you represent the most candidates in the middle of the pack, the most striking stop in your tracks statement they made since this campaign got under way. >> this, nicolle, is what has been lacking 25 years, since the lapse of the ban on assault weapons. democrats have been absolutely spooked by that 1994 loss in congress they attributed to the passage of the assault weapons ban. we haven't seen this kind of energy. frankly, this is the only shift that is possible right now in congress, nicolle. you're talking to someone who covered the newtown tragedy and saw, even in the aftermath of what happened at sandy hook, the slaughter of babies, there was no measurable movement. they couldn't even get a very modest background check measure
1:42 pm
through. guess what. the composure of this current congress hasn't changed that much. one thing may be shifting, the intensity gap, we can measure in polling what people are concerned about, issues that are ranked the most important. here we are seeing gun control even before what happened with these twin massacres are ranking higher and higher among concerns of democratic voters. now, you're seeing that manifest in language used by the presidential candidates. here's the catch. the presidential candidates can be very strong on this and make a lot of promises. what has to happen for real change, for instance, a ban on semi-automatic weapons and ban on high capacity magazines, there has to be a shift at the senate level. even in the senate today, see senators like pat toomey, co-sponsor of a background check legislation, he would never
1:43 pm
support a ban on assault weapons. you would have to see a major wave and shift in the senate to see the kind of legislative response some of these candidates are calling for. >> aaron blake, on top of everything heidi just articulated so intelligently and accurately, there is this about the entire field now has, to point to donald trump and say, we are against that. let's undo that. that is the intersection between a killer's creed and the president's twitter feed. >> yeah. don't forget it wasn't that long ago that these democratic presidential candidates, many of them were reluctant to talk about things like impeachment. it wasn't that long ago that if you asked democratic members of congress or leaders, if the president was a racist, they would not go that far.
1:44 pm
obviously, the thing he said about the judge with mexican heritage was wrong and bad but wouldn't go as far as to call him a racist. again, we're seeing the 2020 presidential candidates lead this party towards a new position, just like we've seen on single payer healthcare and seen in many ways on gun control, like we've seen on things like reparations and free college. the question from there is whether the democratic party leadership is comfortable with that. there is a reason they resisted some of these things for a while. is nancy pelosi really wanting to have this kind of debate? is chuck schumer wanting to have this kind of debate? now, we're having it. they have to get comfortable with it because this is what the leading voices in the democratic party are talking about. >> there's another warning point for the media, we hear from the president, he loves this fight and doesn't care if you're calling him a racist.
1:45 pm
i don't think that's right. there are three things he's sensitive about. they all involve size. the size of his wealth, the size of his victory, the size of his brain. i think being a racist, you have to be ignorant to be a racist. you're probably not going to have the same size victory a few years from now, and if you aren't president some day, you sure as hell won't have much success in business as america's racist in chief. >> how long in the last three weeks he said there's not a racist bone in my body or i'm the least racist person in the world, both of those things are demonstrably untrue. of course, he's feeling this. then, it arrived in the person of barack obama, probably the most articulate politician of color on the planet.
1:46 pm
>> just stop it, most articulate politician. >> yes. but he is the most articulate person of color. and he has been quiet throughout. trump accused him of wiretapping and obama comes up to his doorstep and essentially says to him, you're racist. the language you used prompts violence and bad for the country. one of the things we're seeing not only about the shootings, a perfect storm. we had almost three weeks now of trump, his racist attacks on the squad and baltimore and elijah cummings. from the moment he rolled down the escalator in 2015. it brought this pressure cooker around him and the outrage. >> message back to democrats, this is such a moment in time,
1:47 pm
whatever network has the next debate. whoever it is, every candidate asked questions about single payer insurance and climate, say those are critical. we will focus now on the safety, the core safety and decency of the american public. our safety is at risk with assault weapons. republicans won't do anything about it. there is good and evil and hate. don't just leave it at racism, good and evil. racism is one of the pieces. do not let it go. do not let the moderators take over. if you are leaders, it succeeds everything else. we are in a good versus evil moment in this country and one of the wars we are seeing it play out, free elections, kamala, pete, everybody, don't let us news goofy people get you off topic, take over the debates, and guys, stay together
1:48 pm
on this one. that's what leaders do. we need you now. not like politics, we need you. >> in that context, where is the gop? thoughts and prayers. >> we won't waste time on that. we will get them out of the way. cory booker, my friend, elizabeth warren, i know you have core issues and it's still 16 months away, this next debate, take two hours in front of the american people and position trump as the party of hate and the democratic party is the safe party that will protect you and bring us goodness. >> don't go anywhere. we will show you what the democrats are saying on the other side of this break. ak or any of the other hundreds of john smiths that are humana medicare advantage members. no, it's this john smith, who met with humana to create a personalized care plan. at humana, we have more ways to care for your health, and we find one that works just for you.
1:51 pm
(rates vehicles for safety, andr hsome reach a level of top safety pick. but only a select few of the very safest vehicles are awarded a top safety pick plus. the highest level of safety possible. how many 2019 top safety pick plus-winning vehicles does your brand have? one. two. how about eight? subaru has more 2019 top safety pick plus awards than honda and toyota brands combined. there's safe, and then there's subaru safe. this is the most racist president we have had since perhaps andrew johnson. he is responsible for the hatred and violence we're seeing right now. you cannot leave that just to me
1:52 pm
to say this. it's got to be me and you and those helping this country understand what is happening to connect those dots of these actions. >> i've worked on more presidential campaigns than i've covered and one thing i say is they are never decided by the campaign strategy. they are never decided by candidates debate performance. they are never decided by donors, by who they hire. they are always, always decided by what voters think about how you react to events, unforeseen events. >> watching him there, you can see he genuinely felt passionately about this issue. the one thing that this has done is to donny's point is to ensure all the candidates will be put in a similar position over the next several days and weeks. not that this issue -- i hate to say this. in the next few months if there isn't something else, may not be top issue but it will remain one
1:53 pm
of the top issues. depending on how donald trump acts, he said on his twitter account, for instance, he's going to do background checks. now he said nothing more about it. that's going to fall by the wayside. it's going to provide a bill big old opening for these candidates to continue to drive up those intensity levels by the democratic base. if you looked into the poll numbers, the one thing that's always been there is the approval for stricter gun laws. 90%, we see very few other issues that have this type of public support. high public support for additional background checks but what they didn't have is the intensity. now you have groups like moms demand action which is now bigger than the nra. you see the nra atrophing. you see a whole new generation of students who survived in
1:54 pm
florida greating these grass roots groups. the seeds are there to make a major impact on the next election. donald trump has major decision to make about how he will conduct himself in additional rallies. he's been called out. he's been called out on this network. he's been called out on other networks. we have been replaying his comments about shooting immigrants, making the comment about that only happens in the florida panhandle. is he going to continue to allow this type of discourse at his rallies or is he going to step up to the plate. if he does not, i think this is a moment for all these candidates to kind of step into this role and lead the country to a better place. again, i go back to my previous comments that it cannot just be the presidential candidates. people have to understand -- >> i just want to get in one more. the other opportunity it's given the candidates is to put
1:55 pm
themselves into the story. here is cory booker. >> what are going to do to help kids in general to help school shootings. >> i want you to know i'm look at you and saying this to you as a guy that used to be a young man like you. the greatest chance you'll pass away as a young black boy is through gun violence. that's a terrible thing to say. >> right. >> i'm going to change that. we are going to change that. we're going to end this nightmare in our kun country an have common sense safety so no child in america will ever have to ask that question. >> that was a 10-year-old boy and that was cory booker not being asked a hypothetical, not on a debate stage, spyi inspewi policies. this is the most likely way you're going to die and when i'm president it won't happen. powerful. >> it's totally powerful.
1:56 pm
it's cory booker in his element. he's speaking to what he knows. he's with an audience he's comfortable with it. it remines us that donald trump will not be able to escape himself this time around. if will not take the reins -- >> we know the answer. >> it's because this is who he is. all of these forces of hate and racism that trump has been foe meanting from 2019 are firmly in the white house with him and he can't just open the windows and sort of let a cool breeze go through there and everything will be better. >> we are going to sneak in our last break. don't go anywhere. we'll be right back. st break don't go anywhere. we'll be right back. that helped keep people alive and out of the hospital. don't take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. don't take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren or if you've had angioedema with an ace or arb. the most serious side effects are angioedema, low blood pressure, kidney problems,
1:57 pm
or high blood potassium. ask your doctor about entresto. where to next? [ referee whistle sounds ] ♪ sport dr[ cheering ]s when you need the fuel to be your nephew's number one fan. holiday inn express. we're there. so you can be too. has four levels of defenseremium gasoagainst gunk, wear, corrosion and friction. that helps keep your engine running like new.
1:58 pm
it's fuel for thought. if you have moderate little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines, and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. ♪ make ice.d be mad at tech that's unnecessarily complicated. but you're not, because you have e*trade,
1:59 pm
2:00 pm
my thanks to every one and most of all to you for watching. that does it for our hour. mtp daily with chuck todd starts now. welcome to tuesday. it's meet the press daily. i'm chuck todd here in washington. authorities are scrambling to address a rise in violent white extremism as the president has been openly stoking racial resentment in the country. we've had another mass shooting where anti-immigrant speech echoes the president's anti-immigrant rhetoric. democrat, republican, independent we'd look at the totality and conclude the same
120 Views
IN COLLECTIONS
MSNBC West Television Archive Television Archive News Search ServiceUploaded by TV Archive on