that does it for me this hour. thank for sticking around. i'm richmond lui. you can follow me on first time, instagram, on facebook. i turn it over to reverend al sharpton and "politicsnation." good evening and welcome to "politicsnation." we begin with breaking news tonight as the political world is still quaking from the death of financer jeffrey epstein, with both the department of justice and the fbi now involved in the investigation of epstein's apparent suicide by hanging. earlier this morning in his manhattan jail cell where he was being held without bond for multiple charges of federal sex trafficking. the news comes one day after

unsealed court documents revealed disturbing new accounts of what happened in the multimillionaire's homes where he is alleged to have hosted sex parties for powerful men, sexually tasking girls as young as 14 years old. joining me is kathy park. kathy, what's the latest you can give us? >> certainly is a troubling turn of events, rev. we've been following this story for the past couple of weeks now, and apparently he was found dead this morning in an apparent suicide. right now it doesn't appear that there is any sort of foul play. that's according to sources that are close to the investigation. but apparently he hanged himself. two weeks he was also found injured around his neck and then also not too long ago he was on suicide watch at the time. >> so what took him off suicide watch? how is this even possible? >> there are a lot of questions about that. his attorney is coming out and

is obviously outraged and appalled. they said federal jail where he was supposed to be protected didn't do their job. this is what happens. so the attorney came out with a scathing statement saying they should have done more. a lot of people have blood on their hands, and he wants a closer investigation into all this. but investigations are still ongoing with the manhattan u.s. attorneys office as far as the investigation into sex trafficking. but as far as the legal standpoint of things, since there isn't a defendant anymore who's going to be able to stand trial, the criminal proceedings technically end, according to legal experts. however, the civil proceedings can still move forward. so a lot of these victims, we spoke with lisa bloom who is representing two of epstein's alleged victims. >> right. >> and she mentioned this could be the start of more victims coming forward and they're going

to go after his estate. >> civil proceedings can go forward, criminal, he's not there as a defendant. with attorney general barr saying there's going to be an investigation, could they investigate the names that have come out that were involved in some of the things that jeffrey epstein was being accused of? >> yeah. there were thousands of new documents that were unsealed yesterday. the timing of this is also kind of just startling as well to hear. some names have been put out there in the public. right now that's obviously being vetted and no one has been charged. but as i mentioned, the investigation is still going to move forward. so these people are going to, obviously, be taken a closer look at and see where that goes from there. so there are still a lot of questions, still a lot of moving parts even after his death. >> a lot of questions, a lot of moving parts. we'll be following it. kathy park, thank you very much.

now for politics. after shootings shocked the nation again, we've seen unprecedented conversations open up around gun control, and the underappreciated threat of white supremacist terror. at the heart of it all, of course, is president trump, whose own actions have confused the nation this week, even as he attempted to calm it. he visited el paso, now the site of the one of the deadliest targeted attacks against latinos in recent history, pledging solidarity with the border city, even as immigration and customs enforcement agents engaged in a historic sweep of undocumented immigrants in mississippi. as for the threat of white supremacy, we heard from the trump campaign staffers. they were reported to have said they welcome the charge from democrats that the president is

a white supremacist because it will help him at the ballot box, they say, as we mark the second anniversary of the racial violence in charlottesville, virginia, on monday. the president arguing for stronger background checks while pubically reassuring the national rifle association, a lobbying group, that it would not lose its voice in his ear. and that's where we start as several democratic presidential candidates have talked gun control at special events in iowa this weekend. we'll talk to one who isn't there because he's back home in el paso, former texas congressman beto o'rourke will join us live a little later in the hour. joining me now is natasha al ford and antonio arianeo,

director of joint action. one of the things we did not hear, antonio, when the president addressed the nation monday, he was pretty quiet over the weekend. i think he tweeted some sympathy and prayers, and then he kept saying i will address this on monday. he did a quick answer while he was on his way to his helicopter to leave his golf resort last week, sunday evening, i believe. but then this well-promoted 10:00 monday press event, he finally -- he mentioned white supremacy but didn't mention what he was going to do about it, and then he went into mental health and never mentioned one time about gun control, automatic weapons bans, military-style bans. certainly we need to deal with white supremacy, certainly we need to deal with hate.

but we need to first disarm people from being able to do what was done both in el paso where there clearly was a hate crime, and in the city of dayton where we are not clear on the motive. how do you respond to the president's response thus far? >> the president of the united states needs to keep mexicans and immigrants out of his mouth. he cannot seem to make a coherent conversation without attacking and dehumanizing immigrants. it's imperative he understands that latinos in texas are fed up with negative rhetoric and activating ourselves and are going to vote like never before. you see here in texas one of three texans are either immigrants or children of immigrants themselves. when you attack immigrants, you attack our families. we need this president to focus on gun control, focus on taking assault weapons out of the

streets. he has sewn hatred. white supremacist in this country is a present and p pervasive threat. >> when we look at this shooter, by his own admission, left dallas where there's a latino community, drove nine hours to el paso where we assume the reason he went there is because that's two miles from the border. he said to police, according to their reports, he went targeting mexicans, which makes it a hate crime. but he probably also went because of where -- it's closer to the border than where he was in dallas, which clearly means he was dealing with, as he put in his manifesto, the invasion, invasion, a term this president has used. so this is an absolutely deliberate move based on race and based on the perceived invasion that no one touted this more than president donald trump.

>> you know the great maya angellou said when people show you who they are, believe them. the sentiment has been growing for some time, the alarm bells have been ringing, and anyone acting surprised about what's happening is simply just not looking at the facts. this particular president using words like invasion, it's this idea of coded language that white nationalists and white supremacists, they want to move away from the code and they just want to be able to be explicit about their hatred and the president's rhetoric, the way he laughed at a rally where someone in the audience says just shoot them, referring to migrants, it shows he didn't take it seriously. again, he deliberately is stirring this hatred and, therefore, people are responding. why would we be surprised? >> you brought up, antonio, i

know you did a few moments ago about the question of gun control and automatic weapons and weapons ban. clearly there is the need to deal with mental health, there's a need to deal with other issues. but if you don't talk about taking the weapons that can shoot people as this young man did, and as it was done in dayton, you still have the problem of disarming. if somebody broke into a home and was holding people at gunpoint and you were able to get the police to come, you don't want the police to come and say do you have a mental problem, should we get a psychiatrist. you want to first have the police get the gun out of their hand. they're talking about everything but that at the white house. >> absolutely. this president has put blame on video games, on mental health, on everything except for the guns. and the guns are definitely the

problem. the nra always says we need to arm more people, that if we had good guys with guns, this wouldn't happen. in texas we have open carry. in texas guns are everywhere. so i promise you, there were people with guns in that walmart and still people lost their lives. >> they sell guns at walmart, which clearly shows he wasn't afraid of an open carry state or being at walmart. there are guns on sale at walmart. >> yeah. we cannot continue to pivot away from this. we have to realize guns are the problem. other countries have video games. other countries have an issue with mental health. but they don't see the same atrocities we see because no other country has the amount of shotguns on their streets than the united states of america. >> natasha, the head of the fbi testified before congress the biggest threat to you'ving domestic terrorism are those associated with white supremacist groups, yet this justice department has explicitly come with any plan to

deal with that. what does that say to latinos, blacks, any people of color when the fbi director is saying these supremacist groups are our biggest threat in terms of domestic terrorism but we're not hearing from the justice department how they intend to deal with that and target those groups not being able to deal in a murderous and homicidal way? >> absolutely. this is a strategic and systemic attack. >> this is the same department who also rang alarm bells we should be more concerned with black identity extremists, quote, unquote. meanwhile we had a white domestic terrorist and radicalization across the country. i'm not surprised that there's some misplaced priorities here. the same fbi director testified last month that in the year 2019 they've made more domestic terrorist arrests related to white supremacist and white

nationalism than in 2018. and so, again, the data, the facts show it. there's really nothing to argue about. but for some reason we're in denial as a country. something about race makes us uncomfortable. until we face that, we will see this hatred continue to rise and standing by and allowing it to happen is, you know, it's just completely unacceptable. those who are in power who have that responsibility need to step up and do something about it. >> we don't need a civics course, we need law enforcement to deal with what the head of the fbi said. this is not al sharpton. this is not activists. this is the head of the fbi saying, antonio, this is a real problem. they are the ones that have done the most terrorist acts, yet there's been no statement from the justice department that there's going to be a disarming of these groups. natasha and antonio, thank you both. it's been one week since the

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this to us. >> it's all right. come here. i'm here, man. >> that was presidential candidate beto o'rourke comforting a man who witnessed the horrific mass shooting in el paso. in the wake of the attack, o'rourke, an el paso native, made claims that the president's racially inflammatory rhetoric is responsible for the immense violence. he also called out the president saying trump made it, quote, very clear that he is a white supremacist. joining me now, former texas congressman and 2020 candidate, beto o'rourke. before i go to the politics of it and the president, how are

the people in el paso doing, responding? i believe you went to one of the funerals. how are the family members and loved ones of these that were killed in this horrific act? >> the people of el paso are strong, and i'm grateful for you for asking and for sharing our story with the rest of the country. i've been to tower funerals so far, three in el paso, one in sue dad juarez, chee with a with a, mexico. eight of the victims were mexican nationals, one, a german national, the remainder u.s. citizens in this country. that shows you there's truly a binational community. it is the very presence of who didn't notice and people from other countries that, until saturday, had us as one of the safest cities in the united states of america. and the way that we are showing up right now and showing strength and support for those families who've been harmed,

those families who have lost somebody, for those families who have someone still not yet out of the woods, makes me so proud and ensures that el paso will be defined not by this act of white supremacist terror, but the way we have overcome that and showing our differences do not define us or divide us, but instead are the very foundation of our strength, our success, and yes, our security and safety going forward. >> you have called president trump, as many of us have said, a white supremacist. why do you call him that? this is not just name calling and empty. why do you charge this president with being a white supremacist? >> he's made the case for all of us, whether it was in his maiden speech for the highest office in the land, describing mexican immigrants as rapists and criminals. they commit crimes at a lower rate than those born in this

country, or warning of invasions or describing human beings as an infesttation, how you might describe a cook roach or animal or calling asylum seekers animals, losing the lives of seven children in our care and custody because he gave people permission to treat them as something less than human, calling neo-nazis and klansmen very fine people. and at a rally in florida in may of this year, when he's talking about an invasion, he asks how do we stop this people, someone shouted shoot them, the crowd roars and president trump smiles. he's giving permission, in fact, he's encouraging not just racism, but the violence that follows. we've seen a rise in hate crimes every single one of the last three years. the mosque in victoria, texas, burned to the ground on the day he signed his executive order

attempt to go stop immigrants from coming, and he persistently tried to dehumanize immigrants and mexican-americans and those coming from latin america. the case on this is beyond clear at this point, and it's time for all of us, and you've been very consistent on this, reverend sharpton, but others in the media, others who hold positions of public trust, to say that same thing. it's only then that we'll be able to hold him accountable and to stop the very violent consequences that follow from the words and rhetoric that he's been using. >> he spoke to the nation on monday and for the first time said, at least publicly, hatred and white supremacy. were you at all satisfied with his speech, which mostly dealt with mental health and other issues? were you at all impressed with what he said or do you think it was lacking key elements that you would expect to hear from a president during this crisis? >> it would have been so powerful had he renounced the

language he was using, the language of infesttation, dehumanizing our fellow americans, elevating white supremacists and failing to condemn their behavior, their actions, and their violence now and in the past. it's not just his words. we learned this week that despite the best advice from his department of homeland security, he has deemphasized combatting white supremacists terrorism in this country, though, as you said earlier, his own fbi director, chris wray said of the cases of domestic terrorism they're investigating, the majority of them involve white supremacist terrorists. we learned of a program that is against violence, targeted violence, and domestic terrorism was significantly defunded by this administration. not only is he encouraging violence, he's at the same time

making us weaker and less equipped to fight that violence he's encouraging. this is an incredibly dangerous situation in this country and we can expect attacks like the one that took place in el paso to continue to happen unless we change course. >> now, he also announced that he had talked to senate majority leader mitch mcconnell but didn't say he had called on him to come back and call the senate back from recess to deal with automatic weapons and to deal with military-style weapons. he also said he talked to the president of the nra, who is clearly against not only bands automatic weapons but even against background checks. so his reaching out is really not reaching much further than he already has and with no real action applied to these conversations. >> that's absolutely right. i would love for him to have reached out instead of to the head of the nra, the head of

moms demand action or those students who've been marching for their lives, our lives, the lives of the generations that follow us. they are the real leaders on this issue and they demonstrated that when we adopt universal background checks, as mitch mcconnell and the senate have failed to do, we will save lives. when we adopt regular flag laws and stop those who pose a danger to themselves or before it's too late, we will save lives. when we stop selling weapons of war which were designed to kill people as efficiently and effectively in as great number as possible, we will save lives. i listened to the doctors at university medical center here in el paso. many of them work at william beaumont army medical center. the wounds they are seeing are like those wounds they saw in afghanistan, in iraq on the battlefield. exit wounds the size of your fist destroying the internal organs, helping to make it almost impossible to save

someone's life. this is what we're doing in our country right now. we do not lack the resources or the intelligence or the evidence. it's just the political will. so it's incumbent upon all of us to force mitch mcconnell and donald trump and the republican majority in the senate to do the right thing, to get behind those moms and those students and the people who are truly leading on this issue right now. >> one of the things -- maybe you can help me with this. this president has always attacked those of us that question some police when there are things we consider police going over the line. but bands automatic weapons, bands semiautomatic weapons, it's the most pro-police thing you can do because they're the first responders. they ran in in dayton in minutes and facing fire, the best way to protect police is to make sure they're not in a dangerous situation, that they're running into situations where they're

outgunned of who are the ones that really hate the police, mr. o'rourke, if you're going to keep putting them in danger's way, playing politics with the nra? >> that's absolutely right. you listen to the individual officers or the police chiefs or the sheriffs deputies. they don't want machines, weapons designed for killing people on the battlefield. in those communities they are serving and protecting right now. in many cases, they are outmatched and outgunned and they're asking us to help them do their skrjob. do not continue to sell these weapons into our communities and let's make sure we do a background check and close every loophole from the boyfriend loophole to the charleston loophole to the gun show loophole to the internet loophole so that we keep guns out of the hands of those who should not be able to use them because they're a danger to themselves or others. they'll make it harder for the

police officer to do her or his job in our communities. we're going to lose more than 40,000 of our fellow americans and every year going forward unless we change course. let's listen to the police officers, listen to those advocates, let's listen to the people in our lives. let's listen to those children who have approached me at almost every vigil and memorial and funeral and ask me as school starts on monday, what is it going to take for me to feel safe going into my classroom on the first day of school? this country should be able to answer this question. so let's lead on this right now. >> former congressman beto o'rourke and presidential candidate of 2020. thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you. the uptick in crimes against minorities during the trump presidency not only takes a toll on the victims, but also on the reporters and journalists who deliver these stories to you. we'll dive into that next.

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dayton, it's been main street's newfound understanding of the growing global threat of white supremacist terror and the extent to which donald trump's entire presidency has been triggering episodes for people of color here at home, with a special toll taken on journalists of color, tasked on the one hand with covering president trump as objective professionals, while on the other hand having to process what one of my next guests calls the, quote, psychic impacts of his racism. joining me now, nicole hannah jones, race correspondent for "the new york times" magazine, and easy meral da bermudez, staff writer for the "los angeles times." let me go to you first. the psychic impact, explain. >> well, i think that a lot of

white journalists covered this simply as a news story. it is not something that is impacting them personally that they're having to deal with in their personal lives in terms of their family members. but black journalists, latino journalists, other journalists of color, it's not an abstract news story. this is something we feel very deeply and personally when the person who is in the white house is someone who seems to have racist sentiment towards people like you. >> you know, what nicole is saying, it hit home because people forget when we're out here as activists and advocates, i'm looking at dead bodies that could be my granddaughter or grandson. this becomes personal, yet you expect it as journalists to hear coded racism, sometimes blatant racism from the president and try to act like you don't have human feelings, and he has

attacked the media in general as enemies of the state. >> you know, absolutely. i think i -- these last few years have been interesting for them as a el salvadoren reported. i've been reporting on latinos in california for about 11 years. my job at the paper is to really keep my years close to the ground as possible, to constantly understand not just in terms of, you know, politics and immigration issues, but day-to-day lives of latinos. my goal is to constantly get at the nuances and layers of the community because it really does extend beyond the animosity and the constant drama and the fray we're always in. people are living their lives up on the banks, not just in this rushing river of constant political debates. and so i try to do both, and

it's very interesting to do this from the perspective of a kid that came here at 5-year-olds from el salvador fleeing with my family. my father was compiled. my mother, you know, i didn't meet her until i was 5 because of this u.s.-backed war in el salvador. so it's definitely interesting to see this focus today on central americans and a lot of the debates circling around immigration in the last few years and latinos. >> on top of that, nicole, you also are dealing in newsrooms with people who may not at all have bias or racism, but just really don't understand the lives that people of latino descent, off african-american descent, the lives they live and how they racket differently and thousand they want them to behave a certain way for your writings. i have never found the book on what is good behavior to respond to murder. >> right.

i mean, i think all people have biases. >> you said that, i didn't. i'm not going to debate it. >> you know, people -- a lot of white reporters assume that they have objectivity, but none of us have objectivity. it happens when they see journalists of clorox they assume to know what our biases are. people parsing whether when donald trump talks about baltimore in the way he does, or when he talks about haiti or african countries, people asking whether or not that's racism. people in black communities and latino communities don't really have to question whether that's racism or not. we know that. we don't have the luxury of not hearing those dog whistles. >> when you cover this president, and when you go to events, you become the target of many of his -- i'm not talking about people that do opinion shows. i'm talking about objective

journalists. you become the target of this and in many ways he uses the reporters and journalists of color as a backboard to score with his base. >> you know, i think obviously there's been a lot of heat taken by reporters. my focus day in and day out is on the community, the folks living their daily lives. when i made phone calls the day after this el paso massacre to latinos, some of them who have been in the trenches for so long, fighting all kinds of things battles from population 187 to joe arpaio in arizona. when i spoke to them on sunday, it was an exasperation, this feeling of, as one of them told me, it feels as they've officially declared war against our community. there's this incredible sense of indignation, fear, anger.

this isn't just about newly arrived immigrants. this is about folks who have, in some cases, been here 400 years. one of the folks we're doing a story on latinos who've been here for 100 up to 500 years. we spoke to a woman in texas whose roots date back to the 1600s. she mentioned her great grandfather was lynched by a white mob 101 years ago. when she heard about the walmart massacre, she turned to her husband without knowing about the manifesto or whether this was race related and she said it's here, they've come to kill the mexicans. 101 years later, she's having to deal with the same things, that her ancestors dealt with back in the day. >> with you and your work at "new york times" magazine, you're talking to latinos, blacks who are always handed you by what has happened in their

families, to their parents, grandparents. and you are not trying to step over the lines of journalism, but you're trying to tell a real story for people to understand the pain and the horror, and the fear this generates in a lot of people. >> yeah, absolutely. one of the things that you kept hearing after el paso that we hear all the time is this is not our country. but, of course, if you are a black person, this is the only country you've ever known. to hear that, then, is dismissive of this history that americans have long had to live with, that racialized violence is endemocratic in the united states. it is historic in the united states. and what we're seeing now in the white house, i think, is -- it is much more out in the open. i think people -- certain people feel more tloibtd expreliberate their views. >> it certainly has been amplified with this white house. they talk about go back to where

you came from, they really don't want to discuss how we got here in the first place. ea thank you for being with me. coming up, i'm talk to a young progressive man about the damage done to his community by this week's i.c.e. raids and how he and other leaders can fight back. so, every day, we put our latest technology and unrivaled network to work. the united states postal service makes more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country.

. many residents in mississippi are still on edge after i.c.e. executed deportation raids of hundreds of undocumented immigrants in the state earlier this week. since then, nearly half have been released, most of them parents to young children. the raids took place on the first day of school in mississippi, with many kids still fearful their parents could again be swept up at any moment. >> i need many i dad with me. my dad didn't do nothing. he's not a criminal. >> joining me now, chokwe lumumba, mayor of jackson, mississippi, a city very close to where the raids happened. mayor lumumba, let me start on

the human side. when you see that young girl crying, i need my dad, my dad is not a criminal, this was the first day of school. the children coming home, beaming, wanting to talk about teacher was and all the things we all did in our first day of school. and they're not there, swept up in this raid. talk about the human side of what you saw as you have been on the ground doing what you've done all your life and your father before you dealing with the people on the ground and the human experience that they have to go through beyond the policy we made. >> absolutely. i think what we saw was a gross display of humanity. you know, we talk about this issue from a standpoint of partisan politics. and the reality is that this is really a question of where is our soul. at this point i think we know who donald trump is. the real question is who are we to see this take place to see

children left in terror and fear to see children who just want to talk about the normal experiences that any one of our children would want to talk about after their first day of school only to arrive to a circumstance where mom or dad are absent and they're left in the wilderness is just, it is, you know, unconscionable. i look at this issue not as a political leader in my city, i look at this issue as a father of two young girls wondering how i would feel if my children arrived back home to a condition such as this. >> now, you are the mayor of the large city of jackson, capital city in mississippi. there was to our understanding no provisions made for even where and how they were going to deal with children that are separated from their parents. how do you set a policy without regarding the casualties of

children again being separated from their parents when you plan the sweep and know who you were going after and knew some of them were parents? >> i think that the preparations that were made were ill-considered. and i think it's a reflection of how they feel towards the people that they are terrorizing, the people that they are placing in fear. they had no regard for the humanity of these individuals. it was dehumanizing acts. and so they didn't prepare the school district. we literally had bus drivers in some districts that were told at the last minute that if you see a child go up to a door and no one's answering that you take them back on the bus and bring them back to the school. it placed everybody in a position of responding on the fly. no one notified my office. and while these raids did not take place in jackson, jackson being the largest city in the centralized location in which

these raids took place, it undoubtedly touched many of our residents, many of the people who live in the city of jackson. and there was no preparation, no communication with us either. i anticipate that that was a common circumstance amongst many leaders and officials across the area. >> what are you and other leaders planning to do to try and deal with the aftermath of this, and whatever malay ahead in terms of these i.c.e. raids? >> well, reverend sharpton, i have asked that our faith institutions open up their doors. i'm, you know, exceptionally fortunate that i represent a very progressive community. that progressive community has stood up. it has not been the citizens of jackson. it has not been by large the individuals within this central district in which these raids took place that have been calling for these raids. this is under the guys of

protection, people who are at work seeking opportunity for their family. i don't feel that that is the greatest threat to us in jackson or our surrounding area. children coming home from school expecting to talk about their first day isn't the greatest threat to our community. and so we have had people to step up. we have had a number of faith institutions to step up to the plate and say, listen, we want to help, we want to provide resources in a number of other groups. and so i'm eternally grateful for their response in this circumstance. >> all right, mayor chuk chukwe lemumuba, thank you for being with us tonight. up next my final thoughts. stay with us. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase relieves your worst symptoms

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yesterday marked five years that an 18-year-old young man named michael brown jr. was shot and killed by a policeman in fredrickson, missouri. i will not forget that saturday afternoon when his grandfather called me when he was still laying on the ground for four hours before they even moved his body. and by the time i had got there monday at his request, there had been some uprisings in the community. and people don't realize that it took me a day and a half to get there because we were here marching in new york around the garner case. it is a reminder five years later as we still raise

questions on the policemen that choked to death eric garner as we still deal with michael brown sr. calling for the re-opening of the case of his son that we've got to deal with policing in this country. and we are not the ones that are anti-police. there are many good police. if you believe as i do they are, you wouldn't have them running the bars in dayton facing people that are outgunning them. you wouldn't have them running the walmarts in el paso. it is time for us to deal with responsible policing, and it's time for those responsible for government to do fair and right and just for those that are victimized and the police that are the first responders along with other law enforcement. let's get serious. it should not take this long it deal with what is immediate and in front of us. that does it for me. thanks for watching. join me tomorrow at 5:00 p.m.

eastern for a new live edition of "politicsnation." up next "deadline: white house" with my friend nicolle wallace. ♪ ♪ hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. breaking news this afternoon, that the suspect accused of carrying out last weekend's massacre at the walmart in el paso, texas, was specifically targeting mexicans. that's according to law enforcement officials earlier today. and that confirmation comes on the same day that donald trump promises as he did after the parkland shooting to do something on guns despite being warned not to by the nra. >> i have a lot of respect for the people at the nra. and i have already spoken to them on numerous occasions, numerous occasions. and, frankly,