now. it was an offer she could refuse. congresswoman rashida tlaib and her decision to walk away from a west bank visit. confident on the outside but worried inside. how alarmed is the president is about the u.s. economy? and also the white house considering a big change after 19 years. is it all about politic, or policy? plus after the autopsy the questions jeffrey epstein's legal team still want answered and the mystery deepening over his long time friend. first up this morning new controversy sparked by the back and forth over a visit to israel and the first two muslim women in congress. israel initially blocked a planned official visit congresswoman rashida tlaib and ilhan omar at the president's request. but then israel agreed to at least allow tlaib to visit her grandmother. she then refused that offer because of conditions including not promoting boycotts against

israel. congresswomen tlaib writing quote visiting my grandmother under these oppressive conditions meant to humiliate me would break my grandmother's heart. she also wrote if you truly believe in democracy then the close alignment of ill prime minister netanyahu with trump's hate agenda must prompt a re-evaluation of our unwavering support for the state of israel. the president on twitter accusing tlaib grandstanding and saying her refusal to visit israel was a set up. let's dig into this. we have a correspondent from bloomberg news and writer for "vanity fair". welcome to you guys. kevin, let me start with you. what's the net result of this nasty back and forth that's been going on? >> well, look. i think there's two points i would make. first and foremost there's no question citizen an important ally to the united states.

the question becomes for house democrats in particular is how far they are willing to take what has now become an open debate within the democratic party and the house of representatives with regards to how to treat israel. i talked to so many democratic staffers and i'll be candid. i also talked with democratic members who are uncomfortable, to put it mildly with the rhetoric that's come out of the likes of congresswoman tlaib and omar on this particular issue. it's one thing to raise questions about an administration in another country. and to have concerns, for example, about prime minister netanyahu. it's an entirely different thing to question the u.s. relationship with israel in term of these -- in terms of this important alliance. the second point president trump is trying to elevate congresswoman omar, congresswoman tlaib and others to really become the face of the democratic party to take that power away from speaker pelosi and that is a political strategy

that the administration is using as it heads into the 2020 cycle. >> abigail, you wrote at length about this squad, the so-called squad saying they are not mont monolithic. why is the president targeting these women out of that squad. >> the president has in the last couple of days heightened his attacks on tlaib and omar in particular and one of the main reasons my reporting has found is that he really views them as sort of, you know, the best foil for him. they look at viewing them as the most controversial of the four women who make up this sort of informal group known as the squad and he also looks at their polling and his advisers have advised him to zero in on the two of them and we've seen that strategy play out in the last couple of days particularly on this issue. >> we should mention that congresswomen tlaib, i mentioned that she released a statement and she said she rejected the

offer to visit israel under quote oppressive conditions in which israeli interior minister said her hate for israel overcomes her love for her grandmother.ten so ugly. is this about principle for tlaib or is there more room for just politics, kevin? >> i think that's a question that congresswomen tlaib will have to answer but i think what you're noticing now is for how house democrats after the august recess in particular, how are they going to coalesce behind some type of new messaging for what the democratic party wants to put out there with regards to israel? and that's a question that i think you're going to see speaker pelosi likely address head on once lawmakedemocrats r

back. the administration is looking to have, to put out some type of middle east peace plan in the next couple of months, maybe by the year's end. we're heading in to 2020 elections. you take all of that at face value, and we're in the middle of a crossroads in terms of where the next type of strategy will come from. but i totally agree with abigail. i think her reporting has been spot on this in terms of calculation of le le elevate the likes of ilhan omar to take it away from speaker pelosi. >> he didn't gain a lot of traction with aoc. does it happen they are both muslim? >> yeah. i think when we're looking at his attacks on the squad they have been varied. you mentioned aoc. he went after her. one of the things he realized in going after her is she is somebody who very good at social media and pushed back and fought

back as they say. as we look at this group he views these two women in particular and their muslim faith as something that's a political win in his mind if he goes after them. so i think, you know, i don't think we can overlook that when we're talking about his attacks particularly on these two women. >> all right. we'll leave it there for now. stand by because the day's other big headline. gun control rallies planned all across the country, two weeks after two mass deadly shootings. some heart warming scene, by the way in el paso. strong show of support for the husband of one of the victims, one of the 22 killed who opened up her funeral to anyone who wanted to pay their respects and as such this is just a reflex of american support for that man. hundred showed up.

fox news poll shows overwhelming support for expanding background checks for gun sales. here's what president trump focused on during a rally this week. >> we are working very hard to make sure we keep guns out of the hands of insane people and those who are mentally sick and shouldn't have guns. years ago many cities and states, i remember it so well, closed mental institutions for budgetary reasons. they let those people out on to the streets. we're going to have to give major consideration to building new facilities for those in need. it's not the gun that pulls the trigger, it's the person holding the gun. >> also new today insight on how president trump is reacting to indications the economy that he was banking on for re-election may be flagging. a republican close to the administration tells "the

washington post" the president quote thinks that all the people that do this economic forecasting are a bunch of establishment weenies, elites who don't know anything about the real economy and are against trump. the "post" continues the government officials plan no new steps to mitigate a recession. instead he's getting upbeat assessments saying the economy is stronger than forecasters making it out to be. here's how the president is defending his handling of the economy. >> see the bottom line is, i know you like me and this room is a love fest. i know that. but you have no choice but to vote for me because your 401(k)s, down the tubes, everything will be down the tubes. so whether you love me or hate me, you got to vote for me. >> that's a campaign slogan don't you think. kevin and abigail are back with

me. despite reports of trump being worried about the economy privately, he held some talks with banking executives when the market was tanking this week. according to the associated press trump is skeptical about the weaker economic indicators. wondering if the media and establishment figures manipulating the data to make him look bad. how big of a problem is the economy poses for him if it goes down. >> a huge problem for him. i think when you've taken credit for the economy for the last two years, if there's a downturn in the economy then you also have to shoulder that. i think that would be very difficult for the president going into 2020 particularly given i think the economy as it is now is one of the best things that he has going for him. but also back to the earlier point about him raising concerns about, you know, whether people are manipulating information or data i do think that fits trump playbook. here's somebody who is told repeatedly by polls he wasn't is

going to win and the fake news was against him. when we look at the way he treats this or the way his aides talk about his perception of the economy at this time i think it's all part of the same sort of view that everybody is out to get him and it will be interesting to sort of see how the administration responds given trump's stance on that. >> if you recall, kevin during the last campaign the president was looking at economic numbers that obama had and saying, questioned whether or not those numbers were real. seems like similar tactic this time around. >> here's an inconvenient truth. regardless of who is in the white house, a democrat or republican, there's only so much they can do to prevent a recession, especially when we're living in such a globalized economy. i talked to economists all week about the volatility on the market, whether or not it will trickle out and lead to a recession. they are not talking about u.s. domestic policy or even u.s.-china trade relations.

what they are concerned about, the root of all of this is what's happening in europe and it's very diversified in term of the political ideology in europe. you see germany is having a terrible time intern of how their economy is doing and they obviously have a more progressive government. then you look at italy. the italians, rise of a conservative movement in italy and the uneaseiness of what's going on with brexit and the euro. all of that has really provide an even furthermore angst. top flynn you're president trump and looking at the talk, the chatter of the wall street chattering class talking about a recession the biggest concern from his vantage point is wall street starts to price in a recession. that poses not just significant political risk for the president or politicians it also would have severe effects on main street as well. >> including the consumer outlook. kevin and abigail our thanks to both of you. the latest turn in the jeffrey epstein suicide story why his attorneys have a problem

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. this morning new details into the death of alleged sex trafficker jeffrey epstein one week after he was found unresponsive in a new york city jail cell. the newly released autopsy report saying his death was ruled a suicide by hanging. kathy park with the latest. >> reporter: this morning

another twist in the jeffrey epstein scandal. autopsy results officially ruling his death a suicide by hanging, disproving conspiracy theories suggesting he may have been killed along with his secrets. multiple sources familiar with the case say the 66-year-old inmate hanged himself with a bedsheet. but epstein's attorneys writing late friday it's indisputable the authorities violated their own protocols. we're not satisfied with the conclusions of the medical examiner. epstein was found unresponsive in a federal jail a week ago. awaiting trial on sex trafficking and conspiracy charges. the federal prison system became the target of harsh criticism from lawmakers who questioned how a high-profile inmate could take his own life when guards should have been checking every half an hour. two sources familiar with the case telling nbc news that investigators are now comparing log books and surveillance video to see if there were any gaps

and if guards fell asleep when they should have been watching epstein. authorities also want to know why epstein was taken off suicide watch after he was found injured with marks on his neck last month. meantime the mystery deepening over epstein's inner circle. his long time ghislaine maxwell, accused of recruiting under age girls. maxwell has never been charged and repeatedly denied of being an enabler. while she stacey lent the shakeup isn't over. epstein's death means there's no longer a criminal case against him but the legal battle over his estate is just beginning. at least three alleged victims have already filed civil lawsuits. >> you mentioned there in your piece epstein's lawyers say they are not satisfied with the m.e.'s report. what's their next step? >> reporter: the attorneys released a statement last night

and believe the jail broke protocol. right now they believe that they can potentially pursue legal action by getting ahold of any footage that may have been around epstein's jail cell to see if there are some more questions that can be answered there. >> a lot of people wondering if there was surveillance footage. our thanks to you. there is a new footnote to the report. the aforementioned ghislaine maxwell was reportedly spotted in los angeles fast food restaurant in and out, supposedly reading the book of honor, secret lives of operatives. his book was published nearly 20 years ago now sold out on amazon. let's get to the legal fallout. let's bring in msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. thank you for being here. so you have, at least three women accused jeffrey epstein of sexual abuse and rain and filed

lawsuits against his estate. how complicated could this case get now? >> it's also very complicated. while those accusers may have strong cases people will being shocked if ultimately the strongest civil case that comes out of this, out of epstein's suicide is the case by his family, his survivors against the jail that was holding him, ncc here in new york. that's because the attorney general himself gave a press conference in which he lambasted essentially the conduct of his own prison, i should say jail facility in holding epstein. epstein had a constitutional right like everybody else to adequate mental haish while a detainee and there will be a cause of action claim against the government for failing to prevent his suicide. >> you were talking about the attorney general right there and that press conference that he held earlier in the week. he also spoke about any possible

accomplices. here's a listen. >> let me assure you that this case will continue on against anyone who was complicit with epstein. any co-conspirators should not rest easy. the victims deserve justice. and they will get it. >> there is also a new lawsuit which is asking for the 2007 plea deal giving immunity to his accomplices to be reversed because of epstein's death. how likely is that to happen? >> here's where it gets complicated. originally jeffrey epstein pleaded guilty in state court to various sex crimes and we all know he served most of that time at home or not at home at his office on work release. then he entered into a nonprosecution agreement not a plea agreement but with the federal government. this is something so rare that attorneys like me i never entered into a nonprosecution agreement with federal government because it's not something that they offer. if somebody is going to take

responsibility then usually they've plead guilty to something. so this nonprosecution agreement was alleged to be in violation of federal law requiring the government, the prosecutors to inform victims of its existence. so this is a really interesting issue of contract law because if the parties entered into it willingly what about the folks left out of the contract completely? do they have any cause to invalue dainva invalidate the contract? it will require a lot of disclosure not only of the agreements themselves but the discussions that went into making those agreements. >> increasingly seems as if what was already a complicated case just got even more so complicated. so, danny, one of the accusers spoke with nbc's savannah guthrie last month about the abuse. take a listen. >> you're 14 years old.

>> he new very well my age. he knew exactly, you know who he was hanging out with. i don't think he cared. >> did jeffrey epstein rape you? >> yeah. he raped me. forcefully raped me. he knew exactly what he was doing. and i don't think cared. >> can any of these alleged victims actually expect to get some of the millions that epstein supposedly had? >> sure. it's possible. that's why on the first day of the trial victims act that went into effect which i believe was thursday you saw a flury of lawsuits, not against epstein particularly but against defendants all across the state of new york. the challenge is with all these lawsuits against epstein's estate is who lines up first. who gets paid first, assuming that the estate is found liable in all instances. it will be a very strong set of civil cases because all you have

remaining are plaintiffs and their allegations. you don't have a civil defendant living to take the stand and deny that any of this occurred. so it's going to be very challenging for the esstate to defend against these claims and even more complicated to figure out how do you line up, like a bankruptcy case in federal court, how do you figure out all the parties owed money and who gets priority. >> not something you can do like a class action lawsuit sort of thing. >> no. not likely. here's why. class action lawsuits require commonality and a couple of other elements. you need a lot of folks. they need similar claims. similar enough it's fair to prosecute all their claims as one and not treat them as individuals. each of these claims have a lot of common facts. however, each individual's experience, how they were victimized is very, very unique. so it would not be in the plaintiff's best interest to bring this as a class action when each individual claim so long as it meets the statute of

limitations is viable and i think it would be in their best interest to prosecute it individually. that's use see them being file individually. >> danny one more quick question here about ghislaine maxwell. you saw her there at in and out in california. will she face any criminal charges any time soon? >> i think there's a electronic possibility that the federal government is going to look her way. now that their high-profile defendant is deceased, maxwell probably had a better chance of not being prosecuted at least when the government had a living epstein to prosecute. now that he's gone, attorney general barr has all but said that they still need to blame someone. so anyone in epstein's close circle should be concerned. now maxwell may have been included in that original nonprosecution agreement that sought to not only exonerate epstein or prosecute any of his friends. be interesting to he see if any

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new this morning investigators now know what caused the plane carrying dale earnhardt jr. and his family to crash there in tennessee. video reveals the right side main landing gear collapsed after the plane made several hard bounces along the runway as it attempted to land. everyone on the plane escaped without injury. also new today president trump taking another swipe at congresswoman rashida tlaib bashing her on twitter after turning down israel's conditional invite to visit the occupied west bank. we're following the developments. mike, what's the latest on your end there? >> reporter: well good morning. it was on again and now it's off again. congresswoman rashida tlaib won't be visiting her grandmother or anyone else in israel or the occupied west bank prompting president trump to take to twitter last night to taunt her about the controversy.

after congresswoman rashida tlaib rejected israel's offer to visit her grandmother in the occupied west bank president trump took to twitter late friday suggesting tlaib was only out to make israel look bad. permission was quickly granted where upon tlaib obnoxiously turned the approval down. a complete set up. the only real winner is tlaib's grandmother she doesn't have to see her now. after she was first barred tlaib appealed to the israeli government citing her grandmother's age, 90 and suggesting there may not be many more chances to see her. the israelis relented but it came with conditions. while there she couldn't promote an international movement to boycott israel. after initially agreeing tlaib decided it wasn't worth it. writing i have decided visiting my grandmother one these oppressive conditions stands against everything i believe in and that would break my grandmother's heart.

this as nbc news confirmed president trump has talked to aides and members of congress about possibly buying greenland. the massive resource rich island is home to a military base and 65,000 citizens living in what is an autonomous part of denmark whose former prime minister mocked the idea. calling it an april fools' joke. as many greenlanders rejected it out right. >> it feels as if he's per periperpe turn alizing it. yesterday the president convened a member of his foreign policy members including vice president pence and the subject was afghanistan ongoing peace talks with the taliban and a way out of the longest war in american history but already conservative allies of the

president are warning him do not trust the taliban. >> a lot on the president's foreign policy table at this hour. thank you. joining me right now for more on this, former deputy assistant secretary of state joe rubin. thank you for being here. >> great to be with you. >> israel's interior minister wrote in a tweet about congresswoman tlaib. i approved her request as a gesture of goodwill on a humanitarian basis, but it was just a provocative request aimed at bashing the state of israel. apparently her hate for israel overcomes her love for her grandmother. some harsh words there. what do you make of this situation? >> this situation is breaking the collective heart of the american jewish community and it's depressing to watch a close american ally israel play into memes and ideas that president trump is promoting and to really exacerbate tensions in the american political community about how to deal with the occupation.

that's the real core issue here which is that israel's occupation of the west bank in the gaza strip now for more than 50 years has not been resolved and so the idea that this can be maintained permanently is one that democrats in particular do not accept, and the president, he's playing to a base of hard-line supporters and essentially saying keep it going israel despite his danger to long term survival. >> this next question here two fold here because i'm curious what's at play for both politicians, b.b. and the president. 80% of american jews support the democratic party. what exactly is his play here to tap into that solid voting bloc? >> president trump doesn't really care about the american jewish vote. he mouths it but what he cares about is a hard right base of supporters in the evangelical

community that really well go lock step with him on this hard extreme policies towards israel and so yeah he's out of step with the majority of american jewish opinion and that's why it's so controversial because it's breaking the bipartisan support for israel that we have enjoyed for many years and he's playing to his base of right-wing support in the evangelical community and ignoring really the long term connection between u.s. and israel. >> let's talk about b. b. exactly a month from today israeli go to the polls yet again for the second time in six months after they couldn't make a coalition government earlier this year. so how does this play for netanyahu and the politics there? >> well it's not a coincidence this is happening right before b.b.'s next opportunity to maintain power. it's been nearly two decade of his prime ministership. he does this all the time. netanyahu did this in 2015 when he came to the u.s. and spoke against president obama's

nuclear deal right before an election campaign. he came to the u.s., you'll recall several months ago before the last election. so netanyahu is always going to his far-right base to get just enough votes to cobble a coalition together. 61 votes, maybe 62 if he's lucky to get his coalition but it's very narrow so he's trying to galvanize every single voter he can from his hard right base. >> how unheard is this. what are trump and netanyahu afraid of? it says there are not many traditions of decorum that president trump has not trampled on since entering the white house but to put at risk so cynically america's special relationship with israel solely to titillate the bigots in his base to lean so crassly on a foreign leader to punish his own political adversary to

demonstrate. this is even new territory even for him. how unprecedented is all of this? >> never been seen before where an american president is willing to break a relationship between the united states and a foreign country, one that many americans support in order to advance very narrow political aims. and so we've seen this president embrace foreign nationalism. we're seeing him embrace people like the hungarian president. he can visit israel without any controversy. but then use a smear against congresswoman tlaib and ilhan omar to say they are anti-semites when the hungarian president is promoting anti-semites that we in the jew feel we're under attack. the president is manipulating the system. and looking at israel as nothing more than a political pawn for him and doesn't really care about the consequences which is

very dangerous for the american jewish commune and our two countries. >> we're so happy to have you here and your insight. our thanks to you on this saturday morning. we're just getting started. there's much more ahead this morning on msnbc. at the top of the hour "up with david gura" and he joins me now. >> we're beginning to see the consequences of president trump's america's first policy all over the world. new concerns about a possible recession. no shortage of hot spots. protests continue in hong kong. white house has not issued an official statement. north korea conducting another weapons test. continued concern about brexit. and the united states is sitting on the sidelines on all of these issues. christopher hill will join us to talk about this. amid the fallout from what you're talking about, israel's decision to bar two lawmakers to visit that country. we'll sit down with seth bolton. we'll ask him about the push we're seeing for some of his

fellow candidates to focus on the senate, not on the white house. a great crew joining us this morning. >> quite a lineup. congratulations to alexi. she won the emerging journalist of the year award. coming up at noon eastern a letter of solidarity to u.s. latinos writtens by more than 150 writers, artists and leaders in this country. actress diane guerrero will talk about the impact she hopes the letter will have on america's latino community and the country. policies or politics? what's behind a white house push that could change something that's been going on for 19 years? 19 years?

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new today reports of progress in talks with the taliban and u.s. negotiateors that could lead to american troop withdrawal from that country. "the washington post" reports the initial withdrawal would include some 5,000 of the 14,000 u.s. troops there. the president met with senior aides yesterday in new jersey on recent talks with the taliban. joining me now from new jersey "the washington post" phillip ruettiger, co-author of that report. thank you for being here. what's driving this push to get troops out of afghanistan after some 19 years. is it more about the policy or

politics, perhaps? >> well, ate little bit of both. president trump campaigned in 2015 and 2016 on withdrawing u.s. troops from some of these foreign entanglements and at the top of the list is the nerve ending war in afghanistan. this has been a priority of his and as he looks towards re-election now three years into office he's trying to make good on that promise. he wants to pull these troops back, but as you know it's a much more complicated picture than that. the meeting here in bedminster, new jersey yesterday was with the president, vice president pence, secretary of state, secretary of defense, they got a briefing from the u.s. envoy who has been doing these negotiations with the taliban and the initial plan under consideration as you just mentioned is to withdraw about 5,000 of the 14,000 u.s. troops who are currently in afghanistan in exchange the taliban would renounce al qaeda, the terrorist group but there's some republican opposition to this plan and it's not clear if a

decision has been made or will be made in the immediate future. >> talk through that republican opposition because there are many, including lindsey graham, a close ally of the president who are not behind this plan at all. >> he's not. that's right. senator graham issued a statement preemptive statement, if you will, before this meeting yesterday saying it would be foolish for the united states to trust the taliban would combat terrorism in afghanistan and be the biggest mistake since president obama's nuclear deal with iran. clearly a statement aimed at influencing president trump's thinking on this. but as we've been talking about the president is determined to try to withdraw some of these troops, if not all of them. he does not want troops in average and trying to come to some sort of agreement here. >> do we have any sense of a possible timeline. is he hoping to get all the troops out before election day next year? >> that's a great question. we don't have a sense of the

timeline. i want seems like the talks have progressed to a point that some sort of decision or announcement ordeal could be in the offing in the matter of weeks or months. but we simply don't know. we don't have enough visibility into the status of these negotiations right now. trump would very much like to campaign for re-election by saying he's at least begun withdrawing troops from afghanistan if not taken them out entirely. >> he's looking for many issues to run on. another one being the article yesterday trump banking on strong economy to win re-election. frets over possible downturn. how real are the concerns among trump, his advisors, campaign officials. what is trump fretting actually look like inside the white house? >> well, i wish we had a hidden camera in there to see what that fretting looked like.

he's concerned because there's been a series of indicators not just here in the united states but in other economies around the world of a possible downturn. that doesn't mean we've begun a recession or necessarily headed towards one but there's cause for concern and the president is alarmed because his political survival is at stake. he and his survivors will tell you and the polling backs them up that without a strong economy he is in a weak position for re-election because the economy is his strongest point. it's the aspect of his job performance that voters approve of the most. so if there were to be a downturn and recessions happen, no president is immune from them, could it be a very damaging political situation for the president not to mention economic situation for the country. >> indeed. that's what he's hoping to run on. all right. thank you. president trump not the nominee, the prediction made this week by the president's former communications director.

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401(k)s, down the tubes. everything will be down the tubes. so whether you love me or hate me, you have to vote for me. >> president trump there publicly suggesting voting for him in 2020 will save the economy. but in private it's a different story. as new reports now reveal he's not as confident in the state of the economy after all. according to the "washington post," mounting signs of global economic distress this week alarmed president trump who is worried that a downturn could imperil his reelection. joining me is howard franklin and ashley pratt. howard, i want to start with you. the president seemingly doubling down there on the economy, has it gone from his strong point to his biggest vulnerability? >> it is a vulnerability, especially if in the next 15 months the economy takes a downturn.

i still think it's probably the strength that's most in line with his narrative. an issue he's not going to be willing to give up the way he's sort of given up on talking about the wall. certainly if the economy takes a downturn, if his policies don't align with a strengthening economy, it's going to be difficult for him to make the case for why he should be re-elected. >> ashley, let's look at another part of that "washington post" article. in regards to the trump administration's reaction to recent warning signs from wall street. it says officials in the white house said the treasury department and throughout the administration are planning no new steps to attempt to stave off a recession. could this actually backfire and haunt the president and his re-election bid? >> i think it could. the real problem here is that he seems to suffer from being able to say whatever is on the top of his mind. that's something that has not changed since he ran for election in 2016. i think at this point his aids

would like him to stay on the topic of the economy. but this could be a nail in the coffin for him. this has been his strongest talking point even though he has not really used it. he did seem to use it the other night in manchester, new hampshire, my hometown. and he did seem to come out swinging on the economy saying that new hampshirites have no choice but to vote for him if they want to see their 401(k)s go up. all i saw this week was a stock market crash and talk of a recession. he will have to find ways to talk about the economy in a way that is more relatable to the current situation. while he has benefited from an economic upturn in some ways, a lot of commentators on both sides of the i'll have said that's his strongest talking point, whether or not he can remain on those facts is an issue moving forward. >> with the base in new hampshire, big ups to manchester, ashley, picking up on that and the republican party, how many people actually have 401(k)s?

>> interesting fact there, too. the income in new hampshire is relatively around $70,000. that's pretty high. i think it's the seventh highest in the nation. at that point, you are looking at a lot of people who do have significant income in the state or what is considered significant income. you also have a population of 32% that have degrees over a high school degree. so you still have a lot of people who only have high school degrees. a lot of jobs are manufacturing, more administrative base than they are, you know, continuing education. i think you do have a different dynamic in new hampshire. one thing i would like to point out, the democrgraphics are changing. now the minority population is double digits for the first time in the state's history. whether or not his rhetoric on minorities will play well there, i doubt it. it could have a real impact on

his election bid. >> interesting take. the back and forth between the president and scaramucci continues. >> we will not win the election if we decline the economy from here and we have a mental decline of the president of the united states. trying to switch jockeys, everybody knows it. >> howard, he says it is time to switch jockeys. he says by march of next year trump will not be a part of the ticket. what do you make of this? >> so much to say about this. we are talking about the former communications director of the white house, the shortest tenure in the white house's history. some of this is him staying relevant, staying in the news cycle. >> what do you make of his argument? >> just making of the argument? i don't know if there's -- a lot that we heard about the white house, i don't know there's a

contingency plan for what happens if this president decides not to seek reelection especially as late in the year as q1 or q2 of 2020. there might be some republicans circling the wawagons, making sure they're prominent in case that happens. >> leave it there. howard franklin, ashley pratt. thank you. she's the new number two. what's behind the climb of senator elizabeth warn, that's next on "up" with david gura. . boost® high protein. be up for life. why accept it frompt an incompyour allergy pills?e else. flonase sensimist. nothing stronger. nothing gentler. nothing lasts longer. flonase sensimist. 24 hour non-drowsy allergy relief

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. that's it for this hour. i'm kendis gibson. i'll see you at 2:00 p.m. time for "up" with david gura. this is "up," i'm david gura. congressman rasheed tlaib says thanks but no thanks to israel after the country reverses course saying she can visit her grandmother. the congresswoman says she cannot go under oppressive conditions to humiliate her. so the president's attacks continue. >> this has become the face of the democratic party. the president doesn't need to run against joe biden. he can run against them. there's growing concern about the global economy and how that could lead to recession here in e