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i hope to see you live in new york next friday, august 30th. that is "all in" for this evening and the moment you have been waiting for. good evening, rachel. >> my friend, i feel like i have seen the future of "all in." i have seen the future of cable news. this was freaking fantastic. >> thank you very much. [ applause ] >> i'm sure nobody in the room will be able to hear you when you say this. just between you and me, did you dig it? >> i loved it. it's weird. i had this weird thing where i like when lots of people applaud me all the time. >> that's what makes me barf. that's the difference between us. it was incredible. it was so much fun to watch. you should do it all the time. i will never do it. i will always want you to do it. >> thanks very much. >> it was great. it was spectacular. that was awesome. thanks for joining us this hour.
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super to have you with us here. as we close in on the third round of democratic presidential primary debates, the acute angle of the funnel that the candidates are going through right now is starting to pinch a little bit. i think it's fair to say that the democratic party knew that a lot of people were going to get into this presidential primary to try to earn the right to challenge this incumbent president. right? it's not rocket science to figure that out. it's nothing personal about the president. when you are the president with the lowest average approval rating of all u.s. presidents of all time, when you are the most scandal-plagued president in the history of the country, not just since watergate but in the history of the country, when you have literally been named by federal prosecutors as individual one in the commission of multiple felonies, when your business, your foundation, your
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inaugural committee have all come under criminal investigation while you are serving as president and your foundation, in fact, was shut down by authorities as an illegal fraud, when you literally had to start your presidency by paying a $25 million settlement to settle other totally unrelated allegations about another one of your alleged frauds, when your long time personal lawyer has just gone to federal prison, when your campaign chairman is in federal prison, when your deputy campaign chairman is awaiting sentencing and so is your national security adviser, when literally your sister had to resign from the judiciary because of her involvement in a long-running multi-million dollar criminal tax fraud scheme run by her brother, which is you the president, when all those things are true about the sitting president, yeah, yeah, you are going to get some challengers. you are going to get some challengers for that job that you now hold.
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with a record like that, with just that balance sheet, you would get a lot of challengers for your job, even if you weren't a president who frequently went online and started ranting like a living, breathing, evil dark side version of the label on a bottle of soap. yes, i think it's fair to say the democratic party -- i love dr. brauner soap. i'm positive. i'm just saying, the president these days, today in particular, sounds like he is being translated through a few different foreign languages all in caps -- anyway. the democratic people knew a lot of people were going to get into the primary to try to earn the right to challenge this president on behalf of the democratic party. but i think it is also fair to say that the democratic party did not know that they would be fielding the largest presidential primary of all
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time. we thought that 17 candidates in the 2016 republican field was nuts. democrats this year blew through that record and kept going. not 17. we will go 18, 19, 20, 21 -- how high can they go? i don't think the democratic party could have anticipated with even a field this large that the inclusion rules that they set for their first two debates would result in 20 democratic candidates making it on the stage for those debates. 20. that is just how it worked out. once that remarkable result was clear though for those first two debates, the democratic party took steps to make sure the third debate would be a tougher ticket. you would have to up your fund-raising base to 130,000 donors. in addition, you would need to hit 2% in national polls or early state polls, at least four
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polls you need 2%. those are not terrible rules. those are not onerous on the face of it. those are tougher rules than were in place for the first two debates. these new tougher third debate rules thus far look like they are going to result in significantly fewer democratic candidates making it on the stage. like roughly half. i mention the acuteness of the funneling angle here and how it is starting to pinch this field a little bit. part of the way you can see that as the number of candidates goes from this big to this big is that the candidates who are losing out, who are being squeezed out as a result of the stricter rules, they are mad about it. as you might imagine. but they're not just stewing on it. they are publically saying so. >> i am proud to be a democrat. and i stand here grateful for the work you do day in and day out to strengthen our party. i'm ready to lead our party and
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our country to victory next november. but i gotta be honest. i say it with love. the d nc process is stifling debate at a time when we need it most. we're rewarding celebrity candidates with millions of twitter followers, billionaires who buy their way on the debate stage and candidates who have been running for president for years. it forces campaigns to force over millions of dollars to facebook, the same platform that let the russians interfere in 2016 instead of harnessing the resources to talk to voters. if be wanted to be the party that excluded people, we would be republicans. these rules have created exactly the wrong outcomes and they will not help us beat donald trump. i'm not going to be on the debate stage next month. but i am going to be out in iowa and new hampshire and south
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carolina and nevada building the constituency for change this country needs. >> colorado senator michael bennett at the big summer meeting in san francisco. saying that while the democratic national committee chairman sits right next to him looking on while he lambastes the process that is resulting in him, among others, not getting into the third round of debates. the democrats who are not going to make the september debate, some of them, are expressing their anger and their frustration and their argument against this process, which is having the effect of winnowing them out of this process. as the senator alluded to, when he said i'm not going to be on the stage but i'm going to be out, it is possible that campaigns can build support and momentum some way other than the debates. when candidates don't make it on the stages. that's a heavy lift. the candidates know that.
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so in addition to that kind of angry statement that you got now from some of the other candidates who are getting squeezed out, in addition to that, the other thing that the september debate rules are doing is they are pushing some candidates out of the race entirely. when those candidates confront the realization that they are not going to make it on to the next debate stage. so that looming september debate, that looming third debate has started a sort of shedding season where candidates are now starting to take themselves out of the running. the parties will always have to have some way to determine who makes it on the debate stages and who doesn't. otherwise, would you have a debate stage with 1,000 candidates. there has to be some criteria. that's always been the case in every campaign for both major parties. there will always be some controversy that attends to that in terms of the parties
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constraining who gets into the debates. aggressive winnowing that's happening right now between the first and second debates and these next debates that are coming up, this is also -- it's obviously really shaking the democrats who aren't going to make that next stage. it inevitably has the knock-on affect of shining a brighter spotlight and directing more scrutiny to the smaller number of candidates that is making it through that funnel, that's going to be in contention on that soon to be much smaller stage. so tonight, i wanted to take a look at the strength of that field. part of my thinking about this tonight is that things are crazy right now in the news. everybody is able to follow the headlines over the course of the day. there's a lot that i feel like we can offer on the daily news of everyday and every bit of craziness that emerges from this administration. but when it comes to the
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democrats who are trying to replace this president, talking about them just on their own terms i feel like sometimes stopping, looking at what the president is doing and what the democrats are offering instead gives you a clearer view rather than trying to see him, see them. just focus on them for a second. the reason i wanted to do this now is because we did this once before. we actually got more positive feedback from you guys than anything else we have done on this tv show in this hour this entire year. it was right after the first debate, the one hosted by nbc and msnbc and telemundo in miami. the night after that first debate in miami, basically on this show we did a whole show that was the democratic candidates put their best foot forward. because the reason these debates are such a huge deal at this point, the reason it's such a fantastically high stakes decision for the d nc to make te rules harder and harder so that there are higher barriers for
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candidates to get into these debates, the reason that's a potentially determinative thing is because it's not just a killer to be absent from that stage, it's because once you do make it on that stage, i swear, you can do yourself so much good. i swear. every single night, every single candidate has given themselves something to build on. some glimpse of the best of what they have to offer. not every candidate is seen as winning every debate. every candidate has at least one winning moment in every debate. a moment that gives their supporters reason to cheer and maybe send another five bucks. a moment that gives someone who might not be supporting them yet to turn their head and pay that person some mind even though they aren't been thinking about them before. i know that pundits and newspaper headlines have to give these global takes on who won the debate or who was flat or who made an impression or who didn't. i get that. i'm part of that ecosystem, too.
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i recognize that more than ever before, the media environment and the political environment that we're in right now is such that a good, well-run campaign doesn't need to count on the headline writers or the cable news hosts or the big overview stories on the network news about who is winning and everybody else who isn't winning. more than ever before, in the kind of media landscape that we're in right now, what a candidate needs to move ahead, to expand his or her campaign, to raise money, to make you see them even if you have not been willing to see them before, more than anything what candidates need are good moments. capturable, tweetable moments. that they can build on. we have seen this already from every single one of these candidates. we think of these debates in terms of winners and losers. but being on the stage means you win at this point of the campaign. i can prove it. we have done there on the show
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once before. we did it when we had one debate. now we have two under our belts. as we are heading into this crucial third one, which is going to have a wildly different cast of characters. this is probably going to be half the candidates we saw in the first two. i will prove it to you that being on that stage has already given every one of them a chance to do themselves some good, all of them. that's why making this third debate is so priceless. i will show you. look. the hat. randomly drawing. i will show you. any candidate from the list. pick one. i will prove it to you. bernie sanders. senator sanders, let's start with him in the first debate. he knew he was going to get these questions about republicans framing the democratic party as general ele between donald trump and socialist. the problem with that framing, when you put it to bernie sanders, is that that framing
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works in a bad way if the person you are asking is uncomfortable with the concept or feels defensive about the concept or if the republican framing on this issue is working on that person somehow. when instead you put that question to bernie sanders, what you get is a candidate who absolutely positively knows who he is, who isn't defensive about it at all, who lives comfortably in his own skin and who will take your epithet and make it into the best parts of his own pitch for his own campaign. >> what is your response to those who say no, ma'minating a socialist would re-election donald trump? >> the responses at the polls, last polls had us ten points ahead of donald trump because the american people understand that trump is a phony, that trump is a pathological liar and a racist and that he lied to the american people during his campaign. he said he was going to stand up for working families.
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well, president trump, you are not standing up for working families when you try to throw 32 million people off their health care that they have and that 83% of your tax benefits go to the top 1%. that's how we beat trump. we expose him for the fraud that he is. >> and that's what i do with your socialism question. senator bernie sanders in the first debate having i think his best moment of that debate ripping up this idea that the socialism word is some sort of kryptonite against him and against the democratic party. that was bernie sanders. in the second debate, i think senator sanders' standout moment was a very different interaction. it was when he basically turned into a human shredder of the poor candidate out there on the wings who made an ill considered decision that he would try to wander into and insert himself into senator sanders' well worn
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wheelhouse. senator sanders runs on his own stuff. he didn't throw a lot of lightning bolts at other candidates when he doesn't need to. if he does throw a lightning bolt at you, it tends to explode when he does that. >> you can guarantee those union members the benefits under medicare for all will be as good as the benefits that their representatives, their union reps fought hard to negotiate? >> two things. they will be better because medical for all covers all health care needs for senior citizens. it will include dental care, hearing aides and eyeglasses. >> you don't -- >> second of all. >> you don't know that. >> we will come to you. >> i do. i wrote the damn bill. second of all, many of our union brothers and sisters -- nobody month pro union than me up here -- are payi ining high deductibles. instead of having the company
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putting money into health care, they can get decent wage increases which they are not getting. >> kudos for cnn to keep the split screen for tim ryan being on the receiving end to see him pop the gills once. hold breath for 40 seconds. pop the gills one more time. then go back down. it was just -- that was it. senator bernie sanders night one and two in the debates. i will prove it -- andrew yang. andrew yang, entrepreneur, tech guy. andrew yang will be in the next debate. he is running a campaign that does not sound like any of the rest of the campaigns. that's on purpose. that means that the pundits and national press still haven't quite figured out what to do with him. meanwhile, he is deconnecting wh donors. he has a slam bang social media presence that runs circles
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around a lot of the more traditional candidates. he easily made it into this next debate. it wasn't like he was cutting it close. in each of the debates so far, it's been interesting to watch. andrew yang -- they add up the amount of time that each candidate has spoken. andrew yang is the shortest. he doesn't take up a ton of time. he doesn't need to. he is not saying the same kind of stuff that the other candidates are saying. when he talks, it lands, in part because he is saying things that are unique. >> i am proof that our democracy still works. democrats and americans around the country have one question for their nominee. that is what can beat donald trump in 2020. that's right question. the right candidate to beat donald trump will be solving the problems that got donald trump elected and will have a vision of a trickle up economy that's drawing thousands of disaffected trump voters, conservatives,
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independents. i can build a broader coalition. it is forward. that's where i will take the country. >> that's andrew yang in debate one. at that point, admit it, he is introducing himself to the country. he has enough supporters and donors to get into that first debate. for the broader audience watching at home, millions of people watching at home, who is this guy? that's his out of the gate introduction night one. strong. difrnl. in detroit, in debate two, andrew yang even stronger performance. he not only got big applause in the room, he also again talked about stuff, including the economy, in ways that just didn't sound like a single other candidate on the stage. >> if you go factory in michigan, you will find robots a and machines.
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immigrants are being scapegoated for things they have nothing to do with. we have to say, look, there's record high gdp and stock market prices. you know what else is record high? suicide, drug overdose, depression, anxiety. it's gotten so bad that american life expectancy has declined for the last three years. i talk about my wife at home with our two boys, one of whom is autistic. what it does her work count at in today's economy? that zero. her work is among the most challenging and vital. >> entrepreneur, tech guy, andrew yang, one of the presidential candidates. he has made the cut for the third debate coming up. i showed you those two clips from his debates. to show you how much good he has done himself at his debate performances. i can prove to you that all of the candidates who are going to be on the stage have done themselves good in their previous appearances. that's part of why this next
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how have candidates done in the previous two dates? mayor buttigieg. mayor pete is teaching the whole country how to say his name. the country, the democratic
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party has learned to say his name, learned who he is. he distinguished himself by his eloquence among other things but also by his facility to talk about issues like faith, which he did here at the first debate to great affect. >> the republican party likes to cloak itself in the language of religion. our party doesn't talk about that as much. largely for a very good reason, which was we are committed to the separation of church and state and we stand for people of any religion and people of no religion. but we should call out hypocrisy when we see it. for a party that associates itself with christianity, to say that it is okay to suggest that god would smile on the division of families at the hands of federal agents, that god would condone putting children in cages has lost all claim to ever use religious language again. [ applause ] >> listen to the room. mayor buttigieg debate night
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one. here is a clip from debate two. this clip, i don't know why this hasn't gotten more national play. watch this. watch the part where he pivots from answering the question to talking directly to the camera. when he addresses republican members of congress who may be watching. watch this gauntlet he throws down and how the room just erupts. >> we have to be ready to take on this president and by the way something that hasn't been talked about as much tonight, take on his enablers in congress. when david duke -- [ applause ] when david duke ran for congress, the republican party 20 years ago ran away from him. today, they are supporting naked racism in the white house or are silent about it. if you are watching this at home and you are a republican member of congress, consider the fact that when the sun sets on your career and they are writing your story, of all the good and bad things you did in your life, the thing you will be remembered for
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is whether in this moment with this president you found the courage to stand up to him or you continue to put party over country. [ applause ] >> mayor pete buttigieg. that was from the second debate. i don't know why that hasn't gotten more place since then. it was a phenomenal moment. joe biden. former vice-president. frontrunner in the polls. he knew he was going to take shots from the other candidates. and he did from kamala harris. we will get to that. biden starts out the first debate night not assuming that you know who he is. reintroducing himself to the american people, showing the human experience that has made him such a beloved and hard to beat figure in the democratic party for decades. >> when my wife and daughter were killed in an automobile accident, my two boys were very
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badly injured, i couldn't imagine what it would be like if i hadn't had adequate health care available immediately. when my son came home from iraq after a year and was diagnosed with terminal cancer and he was given months to live, i can't fathom what would have happened if they said, by the way, the last six months of your life you are on your own, we are cutting you off, you have used up your time. the fact of the matter is the quickest, fastest way is build on obamacare, to build on what we did. >> joe biden in the first debate. he would go on in that debate you remember to get pummelled by some of his opponents. look at his opening g ining gam the second debate. opens the second debate with this embrace of all of his rivals. then a turn to president trump, that brings down the house. >> i'm running for president to restore the soul of this
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country. we have a president, as everybody acknowledged here, every day is ripping at the social fabric of this country. no one man has the capacity to rip that apart. it's too strong. we're too good. just look at this stage made up of diverse people from diverse backgrounds. mayors, senators, governors, congress women, members of the cabinet. yes, even a vice-president. mr. president, this is america. we are strong and great because of this diversity, mr. president. [ applause ] not in spite of it, mr. president. mr. president, let's get something straight. we love it. we are not leaving it. we are here to stay. and we're certainly not going to leave it to you. [ applause ] >> he stacked applause line. it's difficult to get the big applause and push through it knowing that by the time you get to the end of that delivery, there's a bigger applause line coming and you have warmed they
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will up. joe biden in the second debate. you can do this for every single one of them. beto o'rourke. beto o'rourke, texas congressman, in the first debate the biggest thing that beto o'rourke got attention for was negative. the way that his home state rival came for him like a repo man. i take it from you. that moment in the first debate went to castro. we will get to that. it bewildered beto o'rourke. even in that same debate, talking about things his own way, asking people to think big the way he does, he also brought good stuff. that first debate night. it didn't hurt that this was one of the only times that first debate night that anybody raised the issue of impeachment. >> one of the most powerful pieces of art in the united states capitol is the tremble
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painting of george washington resigning his commission to the continental congress at the height of his power. that has withstood the test of time for the last 243 years. if we set another precedent now that a candidate who invited the participation of a foreign power, a president who sought to obstruct the investigation into the invasion of our democracy, if we allow him to get away with this with impunity, we will have set a new standard. that is that some people because of the position of power and public trust they hold are above the law. we must begin impeachment now so we have the facts and truth and we follow them as far as they go and as high up as they reach. we save this democracy. if we have not been able to do that in this year or the year that follows and under my administration, our department of justice will pursue these facts and ensure there are kw consequences and justice. it's the only way we save this country. >> beto o'rourke in the first
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debate. this next clip from the second debate, this is really something. i'm not sure other people have talked about this. this moment in the second debate happened on a tuesday night, the last tuesday in july, july 30th. just listen to what he says about race here and the president's anti-immigrant rhetor rhetoric. listen to what he says about el paso. he made this on a tuesday night. the following saturday, the following weekend, is when a professed white nationalist drove himself to el paso, citing the president's anti-immigrant rhetoric to go kill latinos and immigrants. this was just before that happened. >> doesn't just offend our sensibilities when he calls mexican immigrants ra s rapists. it is changing this country.
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hate crimes are on the rise every single one of the last three years. on the day that he signed his executive order attempting to ban muslim travel, the mosque in texas was burned to the ground. we must not only stand up against donald trump and defeat him in this next election, but we must also ensure that we don't just tolerate or respect our differences but we embrace them. that's what we have learned in el paso, texas, my hometown, one of the safest cities in the united states of america because it's a city of immigrants and asylum seekers and refugees. we will show that our diversity is our strength. >> thank you very much. >> it's almost uncanny, it's unsettling to see how prescient he was. that was tuesday night. by the saturday of that week, that is when a gunman would drive across texas to target el paso specifically to go kill latinos and immigrants, to kill 22 people after posting an
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online diatribe quoting the president's attacks on some kind of immigrant invasion at the border. that weekend, four days after those remarks, when that came home to el paso, congressman o'rourke left the campaign trail for a couple of weeks. he is back on the campaign trail now. he will be on stage at debate night three. we have more ahead. stay with us. us hmm. exactly.
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the remaining contenders for night three of the democratic debates, how did they do in debates one and two? amy klobuchar. she's not getting the buzz, bust, buzz, bust cycles some of the others are. hitting her targets. it's almost like a steady performance she's offering is also what she's offering to voters as a potential president.
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i will tell you that her campaign knew way out in advance that they were going to make this third debate. they did. they are steady. that is what she's offering, practical, getting it done. >> the president literally went on tv on fox and said that people's heads would spin when they see how much he would bring down pharmaceutical prices. instead, 2,500 drugs have gone up this double digits since he came into office. instead, he gave $100 billion in giveaways to the pharmaceutical companies. for the rest of america, that's what we call at home all foam and no beer. we got nothing out of it. my proposal is to do something about pharma. they think they own washington. they don't own me. >> they don't own me. senator amy klobuchar has won
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ever race she's run. she's a practical legislator who passes bills. she's both a progressive and a realist. she has this sort of midwestern mrig plug away at it, which she's not running from, which makes for moments like this one from the second debate which is what she can run on until the end of time. >> i have had it with the racist attacks. have i have had it with a president that says one thing on tv that has your back and you get home and see charges for prescription drugs and cable and college. you will hear a lot of promises up here. i'm going to tell you this. yes, i have bold ideas. they are grounded in reality. yes, i will make some promises. i can win this. i'm from the midwest. i have won every race, every place, every time. i will govern with integrity. the integrity worthy of the extraordinary people of this nation. >> senator amy klobuchar, senior
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senator from minnesota. senator warren. debate one makes a splash because she's a good candidate but she has a champion as a debate champion. i think she had a debate scholarship to college. her biggest moment is when she takes a negative question about her health care plan being too much too soon, something that might hurt her with voters, and she turns that into a chance to sell her health care pan, to dispatch with the idea of it being a political liability and to sort of bring the house down while she's teaching everybody about what her plan is for health care. >> i spent a big chunk of my life studying why families go broke. one of the number one reasons is the cost of health care. medical bills. that's not just for people who don't have insurance.
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it's for people who have insurance. look at the business model of an insurance company. it's to bring in as many dollars as they can and pay out as few dollars as possible for your health care. that leaves families with rising premiums, rising co-pays and fighting with insurance companies to try to get the health care that their doctors say that they and their children need. medicare for all solves that problem. i understand, there are a lot of politicians say it's not possible, we can't do it, a lot of political reasons for this. what they are telling you is they just won't fight for it. health care is a base ic human right. i will fight for basic human rights. [ applause ] >> senator elizabeth warren night one. here is senator warren from the second debate. interestingly, the punchiest moment in the second debate, where she brought people out of
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their seats, when she basically dispatched john delaney, the moderate congressman who they went to as a foil for more progressive candidates like her. this is what happens when you have a debate scholarship champion on stage. >> i get it. there's a lot at stake and people are scared. but we can't choose a candidate we don't believe in just because we're too scared to do anything else. we can't ask other people to vote for a candidate we don't believe in. democrats win when we figure out what is right and we get out there and fight for it. i am not afraid. for democrats to win, you can't be afraid either. >> congressman delaney? >> i think democrats win when we run on real solutions, not impossible promises. when we run on things that are workable, not fairy tale.
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we need to encourage collaboration between the government, private sector and non-profit and focus on those kitchen table, pocketbook issues that matter to hard working >> thank you. >> you know, i don't understand why anybody goes to all the trouble of running for president of the united states just to talk about what we really can't do and shouldn't fight for. i don't get it. >> john delaney, poof, right there on stage. we'll be right back. stay with us. that's why more dishwasher brands recommend cascade platinum. it's specially-designed with the soaking, scrubbing and rinsing built right in. cascade platinum's unique actionpacs dissolve quickly... ...to remove stuck-on food. . . for sparkling-clean dishes, the first time. choose the detergent that lets your dishwasher do the dishes! cascade platinum.
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listen to the doctor. take it seriously. three remaining candidates who are on the stage for the third debate. senator kamala harris. senator kamala harris had what is probably the biggest moment of her campaign so far when she rocketed to the top tier of democratic candidates after this moment, this direct confrontation with former vice-president biden that nobody saw coming.
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at least for a while this changed the weather in the democratic field. >> there's not a black man i know, be he a relative, friend or co-worker who has not been the subject of some profiling or discrimination. my sister and i had to deal with the neighbor who told us her parents couldn't play with us because we were black. i will say also that in this campaign, we have also heard -- i'm going to direct this as vice-president biden. i do not believe you are a racist. i agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground. but i also believe -- it's personal. i was actually very -- it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two united states senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country. and it was not only that but you
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also worked with them to oppose bussing. you know, there was a little girl in california who was part of the second class to integrate her public class to integrate her public school. she was bussed to school every day. and that little girl was me. so i will tell you that on this subject, it cannot be an intellectual debates among democrats. we have to take it seriously. we have to act swiftly. i was proud to put in place that all my special agents would wear body cameras and keep those cameras on. >> that moment in the first debate was so devastatingly effective. his campaign faced effects that she was too effective.
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she is good on her feet. she is a former prosecutor and attorney general and she has a story that will be at the center of her cam paint about that, too. here is debate night two. >> my entire career i have been a person opposed to the death penalty, and that has never changed. i dare anybody in a position to make that decision to face the people i have faced to say i will not seek the death penalty. that is my background. that is my work. i am proud of it. you can judge people when they are underfire. when they are in a position to actually make a decision, what do they do? when i was in the position of having to decide whether or not to seek a death penalty on cases i prosecuted, i made a very difficult decision that was not popular to not seek the death penalty. >> senator kamala harris debate night two.
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debate night one was a breakout moment for her. but look at her hold the stage. two more candidates. definitely on the stage for debate night three. julian castro, former housing secretary. he had his breakout moment in the first debate as well. his campaign in the first 24 hours, they raised triple the amount they had raised on any other day of his campaign, including his launch day. it came largely on this performance which showed him to be at that first debate the first democrat willing to throw big and unrelenting punches from unexpected directions in ways that really made everybody do a double take. >> the reason that they're separating these little children from their families is they're using section 13-25 of that act which criminalizing coming across the border to incar ration the parents and separate
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them. some of us on this stage have called to end that section. some like congressman o'rourke have not. i want to challenge all the candidates to do that. i think it's a mistake, beto. if you truly want to change the system, we have to repeal that section. >> thank you. let me respond to this very briefly. as a member of congress, i helped to introduce legislation that will ensure we don't criminalize those seeking asylum and ref uge in this country. >> i'm still talking about everybody else. >> but you are looking at one small part of this. i'm talking about a co comprehensive rewrite of our laws. >> i'm talking about our laws. i'm talking about millions of folks. a lot of folks that are coming are not seeking asylum. a lot of them are undocumented immigrants. you said the reason you didn't want to repeal section 13-25 was
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because you were concerned about human trafficking and drug trafficking. let me tell you why, title 18 of the u.s. code, title 21 and title 22 already cover. i think you should do your homework on this issue. if you did your homework on this issue, you could repeal this section. >> it is one thing to know your stuff on policy. it is another thing to know your opponents record and to be able to quote it back to them in a way that former housing secretary julian castro had that big moment on night one. people were like, damage, wng, that guy? here he was debate two engaging on the issue of impeachment. he's asked about the republican impeachment of clinton in the '90s, shouldn't that be a cautionary tale about trump? but watch the last line he gets in and then the smile. >> i think that too many folks
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in the senate and in the congress have been spooked by 1998. i believe that the times are different. in fact, i think folks are making a mistake by not seeking i impeachment. in fall of 2020, he's going to say, you see? the democrats didn't go after he on impeachment. you know why? because i didn't do anything wrong. the folks that always investigate me, when it came down to it, they didn't go after me there because i didn't do anything wrong. if mitch mcconnell is the one who lets him off the hook -- >> secretary castro. >> but mitch mcconnell, moscow mitch, let him off the hook. any time you say moscow mitch, it should be followed by that. all right. one more. we'll be right back. more we'll be right back.
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one last candidate who is on the debate stage for debate 3. how did he do in debate 1 and 2. it is senator corey booker of new jersey. long been seen as a rising star in the democratic party ever since he stood for office. democratic voters have heard senator booker and know something about him. but in this campaign, particularly in the first debate, i think a lot of people learned for the first time that corey booker still lives in inner city newark.
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here he was on the first debate. >> if i hear gunshots in my neighborho neighborhood, i had seven people shot in their neighborhood just last week. someone i knew was killed with an assault rifle at the top of my block last year. for millions of americans, this is not a policy issue. this is an urgency. for those who have not been directly affected, they are tired of living in a country where their kids learn about reading, writing, arithmetic and how to deal with an active shooter in their school. this is something that i'm tired of. and i'm tired of people, all they have to offer is thoughts and prayers. in my faith, people say faith without works is dead, so we will find a way. the reason we have a problem right now is we have let the corporate gun lobby frame this debate. it is time we have bold actions and a bold agenda. i will get that done as
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president of the united states because this is not about policy. this is personal. >> this is personal. senator corey booker, debate night one. in debate two, this was a moment, right? i'm glad this is last. he sort of hit the jackpot with this. in detroit, in michigan. we all know what happened in 2016 to elect trump. and debate night two, corey booker goes there. he names it. and you can feel the debate audience going, yes, finally, exactly. thank you. >> look, this is one of those times where we're not staring at the truth and calling it out. and this is a case for the democratic party the truth will set us free. we lost the state of michigan because everybody from republicans to russians were targeting the suppression of african-american voters. we need to say that. if the african-americans were voting in this state like last
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time, we would have won the state of michigan. an all-out assault on the highest performing voter group in our coalition, which is black women. i will be a person that tries to fight against voter suppression. they will win states like michigan and pennsylvania and wiscons wisconsin. >> corey booker in debate night two. the democrats who will be on stage in debate night three have done themselves a lot of good, every single one of them, in each of the previous two debates. making that debate stage is crucial. and it's the best opportunity any of them will have to make their campaigns bigger and more effective. that does it for us tonight. we will see you again on monday. now it is time for the last word. >> rachel, i fully appreciate they have done a great job. we're five plus months from the first caucus. to have that reset tonight that you did to show us where they have