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>> elizabeth warren's crowd on the stump is so good. >> i said it while you were away last week. every race there's a candidate like the lightning in the bottle campaign. this campaign right now looks like the lightning in the bottle camp. she has something you can't buy and you can't steal. >> my thanks to raul, john, a.b. and david. i'm so happy to be back. thank you for watching. "mtp" is necessary and starts right now. "mtp" is necessary and starts right now. \s the president changes his tone again. he embraces russia, and tows his own golf resort as a place for next year's global summit. while back at home, a form ever
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republican congressman says that kind of behavior is exactly why he's launch ago primary challenge against the president, and potentially big shake-up in the big democratic race. a new poll shows a virtual three-way tie, and joe biden's campaign is not happy about the poll. if it's monday, it's questions meet the press daily." i'm steve kornacki in for chuck tod todd. we begin with a series of remarkable headlines. the president returns to headlines at home about efforts within his own party to weaken his standing heading into the reelection campaign. he used this meeting with world leaders as a way to pitch hose personal golf club in miami as a potential venue for next year's meeting, which the u.s. is due to host. he brushed aside ethical and
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perhaps legal concerns that he's looking to profit from the presidency, offering what amounted to an infomercial for his commercial property. >> with doral we have significant buildings, bunk allows that hold 50 to 70, very luxurious rooms, we have incredible conference rooms, incredible restaurants. very importantly it's only five minutes from the airport. we have many hundreds of acres, so in terms of parking, in terms of all the things you need, the ball rooms are among the biggest in florida and the best. each country can have their own villa or their own bunk allow. >> and if the images of the resort in the months before a presidential election, the president also said that he wants to invite russia and
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vladimir putin. >> reporter: why do you think it's appropriate to invite rischa to the g7 in that they meddle with the election, and that it might hurt you politically, because it will only by a couple months before the election. >> i don't care politically. a lot of people don't understand this. my inkline action is they should be in. president putin outsmarted president obama. i can understand how president obama would feel. he wasn't happy, and they're not in for that reason. >> reporter: what about the misleading statement that russia outsmarted president obama when other countries said russia wall street kicked out clearly because he annexed crimea. why keep repeating a clear lie. >> it was annexed during president obama's term. if they took crimea during his term, that was not a good thing. it could have been stopped, with the right whatever.
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>> but perhaps the most important headline from the president today came amid the whiplash about his statements about the trade war with china. >> just so you understand, china wants to make a deal. now whether or not we make a deal, it's got to be a great deal for us. i have a lot of feeling for president xi. very outstanding in so many ways. i told him strongly, look, you're starting up here and making $500 billion a year and stealing our intellectual property. we're down on the floor, lower than the floor. you can't make a 50-50 deal. this has to to be a deal that's better for us. if it's not better, let's not do business together. and let's bring in some experts. gabe debenedetti is new york magazine's national correspondent, and susan del percent i don't, a political analyst, and michael steele,
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senior adviser to jeb bush and spokesman for house speaker john boehner. gabe, there's a lot going on there in what we just played, with the president inviting vladimir putin to the g7 next year u. talking about the trade war, about crimea, the annexation back in 2014, but one of the things that stands out is there was no broad agreement twos these countries. >> and no one expected thering to. yesterday again, the last few g7s have ended more or less the same way, ending with something that trump said, and the other leaders meeting by themselves to talk about something entirely. he has a practice of blowing these things up, and at least the sub headlines he used this press conference to sell his own hotel. we're used to this behavior, but
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we shouldn't be. we're not surprised nothing came because of this. if anything comes of it, it will be despite him. >> every eight years or so, the united states gets to host these. last one was camp david. last seam sea island, georgia. there are other venues that have been used besides trump resorts. >> i forgot about camp david. we used to use camp david as a place for the president to go with foreign leaders to have summits and negotiate certain things in a different place than the white house. everybody is more relaxed, willing to come to compromises. that's not the case with this president. this president has essential set this up as a financing information to get more profits for his hotels. he either has they events in his hotels or promoting golf courses and resorts whether at these foreign events with all of the other leaders.
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additionally, i'm just increasingly terrified, because i think one of the things that we forget when we watch donald trump promote his hotel or say things that should inappropriate or tweet things that are ridiculous, he is the commander in chief. he's the person with the nuclear launch codes. when he's joking about nuking hurricanes, other things that are terrifying and result in great loss of life, we have to be reminded this is still not a game. this is not a joke, even though the president says ridiculous things and we often laugh at them or make fun of him for them, we can't forget that he has the nuclear launch codes. these deadly serious. it's never not been deadly serious. we can play a bit more of it. you heard him talking about why russia was kicked off g8. here was more of his pitch for letting russia back in.
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take a listen. >> i think they would be an asset. you know some of the things we were going in the room, yet we were discussing four or five matters. russia was literally involved in all the of those four or five matters. we had numb lutz things we were discussing, a lot of things we were discussing. it would have been very easy if russia was in the room. we could have solve those things. now they're just in limbo. >> susan, again, this is about the 2020 summit, it would take place a couple months before the election. the backdrop about the ewlex is russia's involvement in 2016. here is the president making a claim -- a statement that after everything that's been aired, that a few months before his 2020 reelection, he would like to welcome vladimir putin to the united states and make the g7,
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the g8. it's not that they just meddle in the 2016 or 2018. >> that russia is currently seeking to involve themselves in our election. maybe russia came up in all those meetings, but it should be an issue of how to handle that country. the biggest take away from the g-7 is a lot of people were looking for america's leadership. this president is not a leader. american leadership is gone for the moment. hopefully it will return in 2021, but it is void now. the best the rest of the g6 plus one is mind him and contain his efforts and treat him like a child, here's something good, if you behave, and if you act up -- >> we're talking about the president. >> we are. >> that's terrifying.
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>> we are, it's terrifying, but what's happened now is we're on a world stage. the president doesn't offer leadership at home, he certainly can't off moral leadership, like we haven't seen in hong kong, for example, and he's not offering economic leadership. this is creating this talk about an economic slowdown worldwide, because no one's -- they may be having lots of chats, but no one is coming to solutions. >> what you're getting at, too, this is the argument we mentioned at the top of the show, republicans, potentially some, maybe a few, going after him in the republican primaries. joe walsh, former congressman, making the case -- he was a "morning joe" this morning making the case that his entire campaign will be trump's fitness for office. >> i believe that most republicans on privately believe
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publicly he's tweeting us into a recession. i believe most rpg are just tired of his b.s. and his drama. the best of my campaign is i'm trying to get people to come out and be brave enough to say publicly what they believe privately. well, michael steel, let me bring new on this, then. the idea that joe walsh is making, there's a whole mass of republicans who believe privately what he's saying publicly, do you think that's true? >> no. i think that there are a large number of republicans in washington who may think that way. there's a large number of conservatives that -- most reps are still very, very supportive of the president. i think that there is unease about his demeanor. there's unease about his judgment. there's unease about his grasp of the truth and his grasp of policy, but if you put the president up against any
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potentially democratic contender, and that's essential what he'll do if. if you primary me, you're helping elizabeth warren or bernie sanders turn the country into a socialist country with no border, and he's not barring a sharp economic downturn on visible failure to deal with a national security threat. he's not in any danger of losing the nomination in 2020. >> let me follow up quickly, though. the theory -- you also have bill weld out there, the former massachusetts governor an old-schooled more liberal republican. i think the theory behind pushing walsh into this race, this is a tea partier. he will be attacking trump from that angle, therefore might have more credible, more ability to persuade republicans. do you see anything to that? >> i think there's an argument he has different on flaws.
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but he's not any more compelling. he has his own history of questionable judgment. he has a long and loud support -- history of supporting the president himself. former one-term members of the house of representatives don't tend to win presidential nominations. i don't think this will be any exception. >> we could put this up on the screen, too, this is trump's current approval rating with republicans, and it sits at 88%. gabe, you compare this to past presidents, carter on the democratic side. he was at 40% when kennedy went after him, ford was 60% when reagan went after him with republicans. trump is very vulnerable in the general election, yet at the same time it seems i agree with what michael is say there. he's pretty much unstoppable on the republican side. >> absolutely. i think there's a reason, that there's no mainstream republican
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who's challenging president trump. that's because not only is there no current constituency for that in the republican party, but no one has even come close to stepping up to that not and not been burned by that exploration. i think the idea over the long term would be for one of these people to soften the president's support in the republican base over the next eight, ten months he this is sort of a bank shot, but it's a very long bank shot. >> the closest example we have in the past, cert lina, you think of 1992, bush senior got challengesed by buchanan. he got close to 40% in new hampshire, got an audience for his criticisms. as a democrat looking at joe walsh now, how optimistic are you that anything like that will
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happen? >> i'm not optimistic he's going to defeat trump in a primary or make too much hay at this stage. what i this i is good, his messaging seems to be correct. i'm not a fan of the argument he just made, use the "n" word in the appropriate context, that's fine. so i would say if you're a white person, just don't use that word. there's other words, and there's words i don't say, i'm not allowed to, and i'm fine with that. you should be, too. he's not a good messenger on the moralist edge. i don't real -- ask a person of color if one spectrum -- one aspect of a racism that's a little out there is better than a bit more timid.
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racism is racism. but his message about the fitness of the president, i think, to republicans could be effective, because the president demonstrates the lack of fitness every single day through his words and actions. that could gain traction, because you have the images of the president behaving in an unfit way every single day. i don't think he has traction on i'm better and i'm more moral, because i used to say racist things, but now i don't. that's not compelling to me, but on the fitness, that's a strong argument are argument to make. >> in '92, bush was held to 53%, in the new hampshire presidential primary. what do you think trump is setting up for now? >> 94%. i mean, it's not the result of new hampshire or iowa that this really is going to be about. joe walsh has said first of all
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he will not vote for trump, you have a rep saying i will not endorse of nominee. that's setting up the fact he's not running on a third party. there's nothing taking away votes from potentially people who are frustrated. he's going in full attack mode to go after his character, to reach out to conservatives, because he knows how to serve up red meat to a conservative audience. he's been doing that the last four years on his radio show. if something goes drastically wrong in donald trump's tenure, whether it be the economy or other instance, the ground will be softened up enough, not for joe walsh or bill weld, or john kasich orb senator flake or someone else to come in, in many ways save the party going into a
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welcome back. we have a new poll that could show we're heading into a new faze in the democratic race. maybe, check it out. this is monmouth national poll, democratic voters. what do you see hoar? you don't see joe biden's name at the top. bernie sanders and elizabeth warren tied for 20%, a point ahead for joe biden. at the last poll he was clearly in the lead. again, that would be a big drop for biden, continue what we've
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been seeing with warening, which is a slow but steady climb. for sanders, really probably the best poll he hayes seen this guy page. again, at the top here -- the short answer is we will find out. how closely do other polls resemble this? or is this an outlier? with. this is the margin of roar, 5 to 7 points, it's a large margin of error. the sample size of this poll is 298. hey, month most is a quality reputable pollster, the dnc uses them as part of the official criteria for deciding who gets into these dampl. monmouth has been using sample sizes like this all year.
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number idea, there is an etiological divide, but this has been biden's strength when it ideas to ideology. he leads, but in this poll, only 22%, barely ahead of sanders, and then there's this one. there is age. we have been talking about this, 50 years seems to be like a dividing line. older than 50, under 50, they're going in very different directions. check this out. 50 years and older, joe biden is le leading now look at this. voters under 50, not only is joe biden not in the lead, look how far you have to go down. he's sitting at 6% in this poll, tied with andrew yang for voters
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under 5033% over 50. that's why he's in trouble. of what we'll see. the other key, the dnc concludes this to decide who gets on the debate stage, and by the way -- oops, that wasn't supposed to happen. these are the ten candidates who have qualified. there's been a question mark around tom steyer. he has raised the dough nay he needs, but he needs one more poll at 2% to qualify. he did not hit that threshold in this poll today, so basically tomorrow or wednesday there needs to be some other poll that comes out. steyer has to be at 2% or he will not be in the debate. if that's the case, then this will be it for the next debate. ten candidates, one stage, one
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have another, what, close to 400 days before there's a presidential election. there's a lot of qualified candidates running. my hope is i think you're going to seymour of it, we're going to talk about our plans and future, instead of making up things about someone's past. >> that was joe biding on the campaign trail. looking at the horse race numbers. they both moved up since june in this monmouth poll. for joe biden, a different story. they have him down 13 points. the biden campaign is pushing back hard. for more, let's turn to mike memoli. he's been on the trail with biden, too, for a good chunk of the super. take us through what they're saying, but there doesn't seem
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to be an added significant, where you're the biden campaign, running on elect act and political strength, it becomes that much more important that you be seen as the front-runner. the biden campaign as of late has been much pour proactive about pushing back, and they did very quigley i think the thing seer seizing on the month, until 300 when your very first campaign add talks about polls? was actually when was it in the field? this is the first poll we have seen any significant movement that didn't involve a debate, august 16th to the 20th, that was a period whether actual hi biden had been off the trail,
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but the last time we are talking about that moment in iowa. with poor kids and white keds, and then again just in the past few days a lot more execute any of thinks verbal miscues, so i think that's the concerning part for the campaign. in the past they've said this is nothing, but you can look at the polls. now and you have poll that perhaps voters do care. >> that's an interesting point. future polls, how they take that into account, and if that becomes a theme in this campaign, talk about elizabeth warren, too, i think, as we talk about her slowly, steadily moving up, taking a one-point lead. how does the biden campaign look at her? >> reporter: they have always talked about this's sort of joe biden owning that middle progressive lane. and they have always argued there's much more of a lane for joe buyen democrats than
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elizabeth warren -- what you say is elizabeth warren slowly but surely consolidating some of the other progressive support. a lot of us are surprised testimony had imtake up the polls. they're beginning to point to this necessary ex debate, that we see a staged breakup, where perhaps biden isn't on the same stage. i asked biden about this, and he says he looked from a finally just having that debate with elizabeth warren. he thinking the world of her otherwise, but he's eager to talk about future ideas. >> i think everything is interested in see the both of them, and it could happen. the next debate a one-name, one-same affair. mike memoli, thank you for joining us. what do the numbers mean? our experts will join the table, right after this. will join the ,
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it's not good enough that some say we have to beat trump. yeah, we've got to beat trump, but we have to understand how trump got elected in the first place. >> it's not enough to be not trump. a country that elects donald trump is a country in serious trouble and we need to pay attention to what's been broken. welcome back. bernie sanders and elizabeth warren on the campaign trail this wee both arguing it's not enough just to defeat president trump in 2020. that's a different message from former vice president joe biden, who is focusing his campaign first and foremost on removing
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president trump at the ballot box. let's bring back in our panel. game, we'll see what the next poll shows, but even in a good poll, he's maybe in the high 20s, low 30s, something like that. the kind of message ear hearing from warren, from sander, pete buttigieg is out there saying we want to replace trump is not enough. there's a lot of the party that seems to be thinking that way. >> kamala harris, beto o'rourke says this, wished turn this on the head. joe biden is the only one probably saying this. obviously his team is contending this poll is an outlier. what you are starting to see in iowa is a change where he's looking a bit weaker, and that's because a lot of people in iowa, particularly some of the early activists are really interested in hearing not only let's beat trump, but what is your vision for what's next? there's a reason this is
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basically the center of what these surging candidates' message is. you have warren saying this since day one. here is my very clear vision for what comes next. i think it's interesting that biden is the one person that doesn't make it the center of his campaign. let's say he's at 30 march. that means that 70% of the party is not saying that. >> we got to the last segment, ce zerlina, 50 is sort of the dividing line. he is at 6%. maybe another poll will show him doing better, but biden is getting blown out and cleaning his opponents clock over-50. >> i think that has to do with biden represents the past. as gabe says he's running on the past. i can take you back to the time
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before trump where everything was fine, and people of color don't necessarily agree with that statement. i think people no hick, hi name recognition is very high, so he has a lot of goodwill. when folks are calling around saying, who do you support in this primary campaign, they may not know enough about kamala harris to give their name out, kamala harry, for example, all polling says people want to know the most about her, because she's probably the newest face in the bunch, other than mayor pete, but i think elizabeth warren has essential done the unique job of laying out a vision with specifics. bernie sanders is excellent at explaining what the problem is. he's excellent at laying out all of the different things that are wrong structurally in this country, and then he stops talking. i'm always listening for
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solutions and specifics. elizabeth warren does not stop talking. she says -- and here is how i'm going to fix. it is my plan. kamala harris also has a verbal tick, where she says i don't want to hear you talk about the problems, tell me what you're going to do about it. i think that's the difference in this campaign. joe biden just doesn't have that vision for this is how i'm going to fix the problem in the future with my plans. he's saying we're going back to the way it was before, where i guess the problems disappear? dissolve? become invisible? i don't know. >> in the other issue, and make becoming an issue, mike memoli alluded to this, joe biden was up in new hampshire, the southwest part of the state, but this is what he said. >> what's not to like about this place? this is a scenic, beautiful town. >> biden is known, you know.
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gaffs is the word people always uses, but people are asking, is it something different than the gaffs they're used to from him? >> it's not just the gaffs that we have heard from him that were never referred to as age. now they're talking about it in the sense of age, which is problematic going to what game and zerlina have said before. i think what the bide are not campaign is hoping for is the turnout will be a different configuration, and primaries, sue lea we call prime voters, the most loyal to the party, one of a veg small segment. what we saw in 24018 was a lot of democrats were motivated to come to the polls that they never come to vote in. he's banks that they will come out, too. they tend to be more moderate, older. that fits his pathway, if you
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will, to winning the nomination. i think the other thing they are banking on is it will be a brokered convention, that because a lot of states are not winner take all. in california alone, 495 delegates, he could get 200, 250, and bernie sanders could get 100 and it could be split up. when it comes down to the convention, the loyalists of the party have to say we've got to know with who we know can tweet donald trump. >> interesting, you had talk about the establishment type. there's an article in the "new york times" about elizabeth warren making moves behind the scene, in phone calls, text messages, small gatherings before her rallies, as well as in one on one meetings, simultaneously courting and assures state officials and the chiefs of the country's largest unions, the outreach is not to avoid the confrontational
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approach that mr. sanders took, she's also trying to allay concerns that as a progressive candidate proposing beeping change, she may not have enough mainstream appeal to compete with president trump. michael steel, that's looking at this article from, maybe about electability that some of the democratic side have. from a republican standpoint, how do you assess this field right now in terms of their ability? >> i think elizabeth warren is running the best campaign on the democratic side. she does the bests connecting to results. she's doing the smart things with reaching out to establishment voices within the party, while also maintaining that left-leaning, the nonaggression pact she has with senator sanders, is brilliant. i think from the president's point of view, though, he would love for face any of these
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three. he think that is joe biden is past it. he has a long senate career, and questionable ethics issues. he thinking elizabeth warren is a preachy college professor, and thinking bernie sanders is an old man yelling at a cloud. people with a fresh faye and new perspective to -- >> the sander/warren nonaggression pact, you can't see that coming to an end somewhere quickly. >> as the person who broke that story, i think it's been overg-8ed. what happened was when they first met in january to talk about the fact they were both probably going to return. they agreed not to go after each other in person terms. basically what it means is neither of them will go out of their way to make the other look bad. they do have a bit of a personal
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relation she want. they're not drinking beers on the weekend, but they think of each other very highly. bernie sanders used to call elizabeth warren my favorite senator. some of them saying, when is there time to be scrutiny? but there's also a myth they're going after the same 3508 of voters. they will at some point presumably go after that, but they're both at 20%, and that's obviously not the same group of voters, so they're running parallel campaigns. obviously at some point they'll clash, but they're both betting that's not anytime soon. the person that's still happy they're both in the race -- joe biden. >> you look at the way polls, if warren can win iowa, new hampshire, and if sanders can win it, same thing. they can each put that one-two punch together. thank you all for joining
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you can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. welcome back. add another democrat to the list of house members supporting an impeachment inquiry. the congressman announced his support today. that brings the tally to 133 democrats, along with independent and former republican justin amash.
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the question of impeachment will be -- could be at the top of the agenda when congress comes back after the summer recess. house speaker nancy pelosi remains isn't ruling it out entirely. she told her caucus on friday, quote, if and when we act, people will know he gave us no choice. if he cannot respect the constitution, we'll have to deal with that. it's about patriotism, not partisanship. with me now is congressman jerry connelly of virginia. he's a member of the house oversight committee. he is one of those 133 democrats who support an impeachment inquiry. congressman, thank you for joining us. >> good to be with you, steve. >> thank you. so you and your colleagues are due back in a couple weeks to washington, maybe a little bit less. is this at the top of the agenda, deciding whether to move forward with an impeachment inquiry? >> in it's not at the top of the agenda, steve, it's certainly moving up to the top of the agenda. it can no longer be ignored. and we're going to have to deal
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with it as a caucus and as a congress. >> when, practically speaking, do you have to make a decision by, do you think, to kick things off? you know, these are long inquiries, at least they can be. when do you have to make that decision as a caucus, yes or no? >> my guess is we're going to have to make that decision by this fall, in the october, early november kind of time frame. but i wouldn't put an absolute, you know, time stamp on it because this is a moving target. you know, when andrew johnson was impeached, it was after three or four unsuccessful attempts. and it occurred in his last year in office. so, you know, we've got to let the process unfold. but i think there is growing dissatisfaction with the fact that we have not yet formally taken action, and the time has come to do that. >> in terms of the polling on
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this, we've been talking a lot about the monmouth poll tonight. monmouth did ask the question on public attitudes on impeachment. you can see 41% right now supporting of all americans here, 41% supporting, a small majority, but a majority 51% saying no. should that factor into your decision making at all? >> i do note, by the way, that that's one of the narrow est margins of impeachment i've seen, so that means more people are changing their minds about it. but i don't think we can be guided by that. if you frame the issues, steve, politically as a democrat, you don't vote for i am 350e67ment becau impeachment because the down sides are many. as a member of congress i took an oath to protect and defend the constitution irrespective of the partisan fallout or political fallout. what is my duty? and when we look at the behavior in this white house by this president, who has debased the office, disparaged fellow
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americans in the most demeaning of ways, has incited bigotry, racism, and even violence, has flouted the constitution and defied the will of the legislative branch and its oversight duties. i feel it is incumbent upon us, frankly, to initiate impeachment proceedings. in fact, i'm not quite sure what other choice we have. >> you mention the political downsides that you say could come with supporting impeachment. is it your sense -- let me ask it this way. the leadership of the democratic caucus, is that on their minds at all from the standpoint of, hey, we the democrats just won back this majority after nearly a decade of being the minority party here. got all these incumbents who are going to be up in 2020, in swing districts, marginal districts, maybe even republican districts. you have to take their political safety into consideration. >> i think that's right, and i think that's proper. everybody has to come to this decision, frankly, on her or his
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own terms. as a matter of conscience and political analysis. but i think nancy pelosi in particular has been playing her role, which is caution, prudence, make it methodical, make it fact based, don't rush into it, don't be perceived as rushing into it. you know, this is a very grave matter. it is arguably the single-most potent punitive measure provided in the constitution in terms of checks on the executive by the legislative branch. and i think she's quite proper to say let's be careful, let's be, you know, robust and thorough before we take action. >> i should mention we're having this conversation about whether democrats should or will launch an impeachment inquiry. you have the chairman of the judiciary committee, jerry nadler from new york saying, oh, no, my committee is already engaged in an impeachment inquiry. what do you make of what he's saying?
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>> well, i think from his perspective on the judiciary committee, that is what they have already launched, and he's announced that and his committee apparently -- i'm not on that committee, but his committee apparently certainly concurs. so i think de facto he's right. the question is should we -- do we need to take a formal action de juri, as a congress. i think that's a wise way to go at some point, but i wouldn't ga gainsay what chairman nadler said. their committee is in fact in the midst of a impeachment inquiry. >> he alluded to this, i should say, his committee will end up taking a vote on whether to recommend impeachment. do you expect his committee is going to be voting on that? >> i hope so. i think they ch and i welcome chair nadler's leadership in that.
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welcome back. an update on a potentially big political story we first brought you last week. representative joe kennedy iii of massachusetts today posted on facebook that he is contemplating a 2020 senate run. that would mean he would be running in a primary against senator ed markey. kennedy wrote, i hear the folks
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who say i should wait my turn but with due respect i'm not sure this is a moment for waiting. our system has been letting down a lot of people for a long time and we can't fix it if we don't challenge it. i've got some ideas on how to do that and i don't think our democratic process promises anyone a turn. that is all for tonight. we'll be back tomorrow with more "meet the press" daily and the beat starts right now. amin is in for ari melber. >> i am in for ari melber. president trump promoting his golf courses at the g7 summit in france. plus democrats subpoena another trump staffer as the impeachment caucus continues to grow. i'm going to talk to a democratic presidential candidate ahead of this week's big debate deadline. we want to begin with a series of setbacks and embarrassments as trump heads back from confusing our allies overseas at a major world summit. when trump lands in d.c. tonight, he's going to face a new challenge from the right in the gop primary. he is also

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