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touting his private golf club as he lobbies for it to host a gathering of world leaders. obviously this isn't anything new, and it's sort of part of the point here. trump has been using the office to advance his personal financial interests from even before he started running, even going back to the campaign. it's the same story with his embrace of putin as russia continues to attack our democracy. the president stunned world leaders for advocating for putin and russia to be allowed back into the g-7 with no i've done all sorts of research, read earnings reports, preconditions. mr. trump has been praising looked at chart patterns. putin and advocating for i've even built my own historic trading model. russia's interests for years and you're still not sure if you want to make the trade? now, again, going back to the exactly. campaign. sounds like a case of analysis paralysis. this happened today when russia is there a cure? td ameritrade's trade desk. denied a visa to two senators they can help gut check your strategies one of whom was a republican. and answer all your toughest questions. it's the same story with his sounds perfect. see, your stress level was here and i got you down to here, misleading statements at the g-7 on trade, china, crimecrimea, o i've done my job. call for a strategy gut check with td ameritrade. ♪ you name it. it's nothing new, not for a president who's made more than 12,000, that's right, 12,000 false or misleading claims.

if you're left feeling worn down, you're not alone. perhaps that's the president's goal, to wear down his critics. it's worked well for him in real welcome back, tonight i'm estate. he just wears people down. obsessed with the word fek lus, that's the art of the deal. whatever, just let trump have more specifically its first three letters, f-e-c. it. but it also might be a goal to rile up his critics as well. that is what you might call the sometimes the universe works so well. the federal election commission riddle of trump fatigue, and it is supposed to watch how money speaks to the single biggest is spent on elections in this country, but they can't make question overshadowing sure things add up because they everything in politics, is the american public tiring of it. got a great group of experts themselves don't add up. on monday the vice chair, with me tonight, eugene scott, matthew peterson tendered his donna edwards, was a democratic congresswoman from maryland, resignation. he's leaving at the end of the month. lonnie chen, top adviser, former with two seats already vacant, top adviser to mitt romney, and that will leave only three out of the six commissioner spots filled. the fdc needs four for a quorum charlie sykes is an msnbc contributor. in order to do, well, basically charlie, when we were talking about how to sort of put all anything, hold meetings, make new rules, audit or fine this together today, the comment campaigns. you may have heard we are in the i kept making was, well, there's midst of a campaign season at nothing new. everything that is happening this very moment, so we need to right now, every, you know, fill these seats, people, hello, whether -- that you would think, campaigns aren't going to boy this should be a big story. regulation themselves, are they? this should be a big story.

it's all sitting out there, and where do we get new commissioners you might nomina there is this sort of fatigue or numbness, i don't know what to call it. firms. so to put it another way the what do you call it? >> no, there is the agency that regulates elected officials cannot function until normalization. it the numbness. you know, you have all of those it's allowed to do so by the things, which have been present officials it regulates and since he came down the therein lies the rub. the fec is not really in the escalator, but it feels like accountability business. it's in the illusion of just another tuesday in trump accountability business. world, and i think for a lot of the white house and congress in the supporters, including the republican party -- and i'm control of who gets on that probably going to be accused of board how could it be otherwise? fat shaming here, when you think about it, a 900 pound man by the way, imagine if goldman doesn't worry about eating one more twinkie. sachs actually were asked to the republican party is like confirm members of the s.e.c. that, except it's gorged with trump's craziness, with his but anyway, i digress. corruption, with all of the lies 2020 is around the corner. wouldn't it be nice if it and just another weekend like this, it's not going to be a weren't such a running joke. problem. we will and right back. they're going to go along with it. they're in too deep. so the question is is there any sort of a breaking point? >> teacher: let's turn in your science papers. i don't know, but you're right. >> tech vo: this teacher always puts her students first. >> student: i did mine on volcanoes. i accepsense the numbness. >> teacher: you did?! oh, i can't wait to read it. >> tech vo: so when she had auto glass damage... i sense the absolute exhaustion. the danger is people are going she chose safelite. to disengage. people are going to throw up with safelite, she could see exactly when we'd be there. their hands and go this is the

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it's whiplash for the rest of the world. the numbness is also hitting us in the press because how many different ways do you frame what is essentially the same story? >> absolutely. one of the reasons it's also difficult to write about this is because the president has not consistently displayed a deeply held conviction when it comes to foreign policy so sometimes it really does see like he's flying at the seat of his pants. >> because maybe he is. >> because maybe he is. we don't know him to be someone who has spoken intelligently and deeply about having a world view that goes beyond his golf course abroad. when he has to actually talk about issues and be on a stage where he's forced to answer questions repeatedly, something that he hasn't done regularly, he's put in a position where that it's quite different from how he speaks when he's at his rallies. he has to get pushback, he has to speak to issues of nuance, and it becomes clear that he can't do that in a way that makes some clear point. >> donna, i feel like and i've probably put you in this

position before. how should democrats approach this? there's part of me that wonders that the house democrats i, they just look like they're watching, too. they've decided the impeachment -- they look like bystande bystanders, and the democratic presidential candidates are i think debating every day how to confront him. >> and frankly on the presidential end, you have some democratic candidates who are we've got an nbc exclusive. attacking trump, and you have some others who are saying, you the maker of oxycontin is know what, i'm going to put out offering to settle lawsuits for my agenda and keep talking about my agenda because it's not worth the collective price of 10 $10 it for me to go at the president every single day, and i think it 12billion. purdue pharma is being sued for is frustrating, and it is exhausting, and i have to keep its role in allegedly fueling myself from being exhausted by the opioid epidemic. this president. but i also have to, you know, news of the possible settlement comes a day after an oklahoma remind myself and remind judge ordered johnson & johnson democrats that if we get exhausted, then the public's to pay $572 million for its role going to be exhausted, too. in the opioid crisis and how it although you can't point out, you know, that the president has impacted oklahoma. lied 12,001 times, the american johnson & johnson says it will appeal. purdue pharma settled out of court in the oklahoma case for public already believes the president is a liar. >> it's sort of baked in. 270 million. prosecutors had asked for $17 >> it is. so calling him a liar every billion total and though 572

single day doesn't work, but pointing out the ways that he is lying to the american public i think is important. million sounds like a lot of >> charlie sykes, the one area money for johnson & johnson it's a drop in the bucket reporting that i've always been surprised $5 billion in profit last that the president doesn't get quarter so times that by four, more heat for and hasn't gotten 20 billion a year, yada, yada, more heat for is this idea that yada. he might be profiting off the we've had to do a lot of math. presidency. look, i want to play to me the laura strict ler is an most astounding moment of the campaign when he basically after investigative producer that broke the story earlier this mitt romney eviscerated him for afternoon. laura, thanks very much. so purdue pharma, it's obviously essentially always wanting to not an accident they floated profit off of these things, well, trump went and decided to this settlement today. brag about every single product where do they come up with the he had ever put his name on. number? >> they basically have been i got to play that absurd press meeting with the states, cities conference clip for you, and and counties at the request of then i'll talk about it on the judge -- this federal judge in other side. >> we sell water, and we have cleveland and he said to them, water, and it's a very come on, you know, let's try to successful -- you know, it's a private little water company and find some kind of global settlement so everybody can move i supply the water for all my places. trump steaks, what are the steaks? do we have steaks? on and avoid litigation. they came up to 10 billion to we have trump steaks. we have trump magazine. we have a lot of great people who want to get back into trump $12 billion and would file for

chapter 11 bankruptcy but would university. it's going to do very well. trump vodka. we make the finest wine, as good still continue to function as the business and the sacklers of wine as you can get anywhere in the world. so you have the water. would no longer be involved. the company would become a for you have the steaks. you have the airline that i profit trust that would continue sold. to sell drugs, continue to you have the wines and all hoof that and trump university, we're going to start it up as soon as market dorugs but the profit wa go to the plaintiff, the city, i win the lawsuit. does that make sense? counties and state hurt by the okay. that's it. opioid crisis. >> it was an all time classic >> this is a pretty -- you know, trumpian tlufrump there charlie. on one hand i look at 10 to 12 the fact is he is making -- the trump organization is probably as cash fluid as they've been in billion and argue is that enough a while because of the him being in the presidency. >> yeah, and by the way just money -- many are arguing what watching him with all those needs to be done will take a products, they either failed generation. is that enough money but does businesses or frauds. it did occur to me earlier in the presidency even leaving sound like any more and purdue aside the russia scandal, if he is saying it puts us under and didn't have that, the way in which the president is flouting then we won't have the money. >> if you are -- you can continue this litigation and we conflict of interest laws, basically saying they don't apply to me and using the will file for bankruptcy and presidency to enrich himself is itself just an extraordinary you'll get a lot less money or story. again, this is the era that we you can go with this deal, we'll live in that a story that would

be a consuming scandal for any continue to function as is, we'll bring in an independent other president becomes what, board of trustees to run the story number five or six. company as a trust and then all >> it never reaches top ten. those proceeds will go to the >> no, not even. >> charlie, not the sel greater cause of the cities, self-dealing. >> and i was also struck by how counties and states. much he built this brand of >> how many other companies -- being a winner when he's got so this is purdue pharma. that's one. johnson & johnson over here. the collective lawsuit, the one swamp when his behavior is swampier than we've in ohio, the one that purdue ever seen before, you know. pharma, how many other opioid so you kind of wonder, is there makers are involved in that one? >> so, there are about six or some moment where people go, hey, this was a scam. this is not real. seven, i mean, some states decided to sue distributors and this is somebody who is -- who is actually selling the presidency and trying to have some manufacturers, you know, so it's a bit of a hodgepodge himself and his family and his businesses profit from it. between, you know, some of the >> lonnie, the democratic party main manufacturers and the main ripped mitt romney's reputation distributors. apart for essentially turning >> is this a negotiation just for purdue pharma's portion and the lawsuit is against everybody him for voters in the midwest else would continue? into somebody who essentially >> correct. >> is the judge not trying to create a global settlement here put prioritized profits over at all? people. >> right. >> the judge is working on the >> he essentially prioritized

that that was the implication, purdue pharma of it which is and you look at that, at what arguably the most significant. >> he wants that one first. >> it appears so. but the others are also, you was done, i don't understand why know, they're active -- the voters didn't like that perception. how is this not? judge is actively trying to >> well, i mean, you can argue settle those as well. the standards have changed in american politics, but you can >> johnson & johnson, the half a also argue there's something billion dollar verdict, why is about how donald trump handles this viewed as -- i did -- we this that's different than any other politician we've seen in did the math. why do their attorneys view this american history. the tendency has been in american politics to be as a -- win seems like a horrible term to use but as a defensive about these things. and he's just like look at the probably breathing a sigh of stakes. the stakes are there. relief in their mind. >> the johnson & johnson? his mind-set and the way that he treats it is different. >> why is johnson & johnson relieved by this verdict? i think in some ways for republican voters at least, they >> and the stock market as well. were craving that. i think because, you know, the they were craving -- >> they were tired of somebody -- >> they were tired of being threat was -- mike hunter, the defini oklahoma state ag was asking so defensive about capitalism and free enterprise. much more money and ended up >> he's sort of a most with half a balance. he was asking for $17 billion, outlandish version of -- but if you multiply it out and >> it's a caricature. >> a caricature what you think a in they get half a billion for oklahoma and you see other capitalist in a monopoly board settlements like that around the might look like. >> even though the republican country, it could add up over

voters may have been longing for time. >> i was just going to say if something like that, most voters you look at oklahoma as half a are not republican, and so the billion and even if you reality is even though the president and his team have been extrapolated it out evenly you very vocal about their strategy, get to 25 billion in a hurry and something tells moo he that appealed to their base and try to encourage turnout, the oklahoma isn't 1/50 of this. reality is there are large >> exactly go that the numbers percentages of people who voted for 2016 who are now rethinking is probably bigger than this. that and are open to something we're looking at 100 billion at some point when all is said and else, in addition to the left. done. >> i think a lot of people are so you risk losing people that looking at this, you know, 10 to were willing to give you a try that are no longer willing to do 12 and saying let's compare that so because they're sick of it. to tobacco. >> i'm wondering donna, are the you have to remember tobacco was a number of different companies involved. it just wasn't one company so democrats -- i mean, is this we're going to see, you know, where the biden message of -- certainly there are forces and in some ways kamala harris moving in the direction of trying to find settlements with has been smart, she's seen this in focus groups, 3:00 a.m. phone these other companies, it's possible we could end up at 100. call, where they start to >> by the way, we're starting to realize that anxiety and get down to almost one tobacco competence might be the best ways to go after trump. company. as much as the personal stuff that is probably the future of bothers you, it's what he's opioid makers down the road. doing with his day job. thanks very much for your >> that may be true in part, but reporting. that's all we have for tonight. i also think on the president it's been a busy day. back with more "meet the press sort of using his office to make daily." tomorrow you never what is going

money for himself that democrats to happen. haven't actually done a lot to hold him accountable. "the beat" starts now. >> can you point to something >> i am in for ari melber. that they've done? >> here's from the president's we have a lot to get to tonight. perspective, you know what? they didn't get me on that. disturbing new nbc reporting on they didn't get me on that, and donald trump pulling money from so he keeps pushing the outer disaster relief to fund his edge. >> testing the electric fence. immigration agenda. plus, trump scrambling to >> when democrats come back in respond to reports of bedbuds at september, especially around this thing around using doral his florida resort as he pushes and other things, democrats to hold a world summit there actually have to start showing some spine when it comes to going after the president on next year and they're hobbling these things. win or lose, they got to show that. >> charlie, do you buy that? the agency that keeps our obviously nancy pelosi is election fair. we start tonight with the new concerned that they look overly revelations of trump raiding investigatory, and she hasn't homeland security funding to pay for his immigration policy. really described what that looks like. whatever it is, she's fearing nbc news learning trump that that's what it is, she officials are pulling more than seems to not want to go down these paths, whether it's the $270 million of homeland security funding tax returns or impeachment or whatever you want to go? >> i respect her caution and her political savvy, but the result is that it has contributed to this normalization of donald trump. and trump is looking at this and saying, well, why not?

i'm getting away with all of this. there are, in fact, no consequences. i literally am above the law under a constitutional system, if a president can't be indicted and the courts won't allow the emoluments lawsuits to go ahead, congress is the only option to hold him accountable, and so far they're failing to do that, and i think that's going to have long-term implications. i think it's a terrible precedent. but of course the danger here is that the trump supporters are now accusing those of us who have been critics of donald trump raising these issues of suffering from trump derangement syndrome, right? saying well, this would be more credible if you had not been warning about his corruption and all of this for years, but this is the problem with crying wolf. it turns how the that donald trump was, in fact, the wolf all along, and so, you know, again, that's kind of the catch 22. we've been saying it, saying it. here it is. now it seems old and a little bit stale, doesn't it? >> it's funny you say that, eugene. i think it was the boston globe that did an april fool's edition

of what would it look like if trump were president. i know it makes the rounds on twitter. it's astounding how not funny the headlines look now. >> absolutely. they look very real, and i think that's why we're seeing some people saying this is our reality, and this is not the reality that i wanted, you know. i still follow a lot of people from the clinton campaign and very often they tweet out a clip of hillary clinton warning us that things would be what they are. >> all the fake news media sort of chronicled a lot of this. anyway, thank you, guys. charlie, good to see you. thank you. ye ge eugene, donna and lonnie, you guys are going to stick around. up ahead, trying to use the presidency for profit, trying to hold the next g7 on his own property, that is a new one. we just heard from a republican who's cheering the idea. later, is there really a shake-up in the democratic race? what happens when two polls say entirely different things?

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with doral, we have a series of magnificent buildings. we call them bungalows. they each hold from 50 to 70 very luxurious rooms with magnificent views. we have incredible conference rooms, incredible restaurants. it's very importantly only five minutes from the airport. the airport is right next door, and we have many hundreds of acres so that in terms of parking, in terms of all of the things that you need, the ball rooms are among the biggest in florida and the best. each country can have their own villa or their own bungalow. >> welcome back. president trump really praying convention bureau chief there pushing his miami golf club as the place to host the next year's g7 summit. it's just the latest example of a long list of potential conflicts of interest facing this president without apparently any accountability.

he's never relinquished control of his business empire after moving into the white house, and according to one government watchdog group, the list of conflicts is now 2,000 long and counting. and then just minutes ago "the washington post" reported that the attorney general bill barr has officially booked president trump's d.c. hotel for his $30,000 holiday party. joining me now is said reporter, david farn thold. he's one of the post reporters who broke that story. he's been chronicling the donald trump business interests since bf before he was elected president. today he's basically a co-host of most hours, it's nice to see you. >> thank you. >> i'm glad you had time to do some reporting in between us commandeering you for television. >> that's right, there's been a lot going on today, the doral -- just doral was a lot, but now we've added this extra bill barr party, which is amazing. >> i want to first start with if i were at the department of

education and i were putting a conference -- it's my understanding that there would be a series of rules of who gets the rfp, request for proposal and what groups you can use, what groups you can't use, your budget and all this stuff. does something like this exist for the west wing? >> well, since this is barr's -- what he says is his personal holiday party, he's paying for it personally. this is his family party, his friends, it's not a doj event so in this case he can do whatever he wants. there's not a law against this. it's just as you kind of alluded to, this is a guy who president trump gave a huge plum prize and now giving president trump back some money. >> all right, how about the g7? the president of the united states can say he wants it in miami, but is there a duty that the government, since it's using taxpayer dollars, that they make this decision about what location in miami to have this at? >> yes, typically the president will choose a site, and sometimes that site is limited to just -- it makes the decision

for you. there's just one vendor, there's just one hotel. sometimes they choose a city and there's a lot of hotels and they can bid. in this case trump is envisioning the city of doral really he means, though, his resort. when he talks about those villas, he wants to put everybody on the same property, which he owns. >> now, security wise, that's always -- look, i know one time i think it was st. simon's island, we've used to host the g7, another time we used camp david by the way. i think the cheapest place to do it that allows for plenty of privacy is camp david. you could do something like that. what is -- is there any -- so there really is no law -- i mean, he can sort of do this -- again, i go back to the department of education, could they just willy nilly do it this way? >> probably not. >> is it congress that's going to have to decide whether this is on the up and up? >> it's a great question about

congress. the state department usually pays for these things. they pay for the u.s. officials who are staying there. they'll pay for sort of 15 rooms for the very top foreign leaders, and then the foreign countries have to pay for the rest of their staff. typically, they're all in different hotels because they all want the same size presidential suite, and there aren't eight presidential suites at one hotel. typically, it's not just the choice of one place, in this case trump is choosing it. so there are some advantages to having everybody in one spot, but there's some disadvantages too. you talked about how isolated the sites we choose are, camp david, an island off the coast of georgia. this is a place plopped down in the middle of industrial park, homes, malls. it's urban florida, and you're going to try to seal that off in the way you seal off a florida. >> in defense, i know the area pretty well, if you're going to try to put this in the area, you probably can -- it's going to be disruptive to traffic no matter what, it's probably -- other than putting it on key biscayne and shutting off key biscayne, i don't know where else you could do it in defense on that front.

let me go back to what congress is doing, particularly when it comes to trying to investigate what he's doing on the hotel. where is -- is this on oversight? and what progress have they made? >> they have not made much progress. to give you a sense of how little progress they've made, the most important -- until now, until doral -- the most important sort of locust of emoluments questions for trump was his d.c. hotel. that's where most foreign governments that spend money with him, they spend money there. that building is actually owned by the u.s. taxpayer. trump has a lease to operate a hotel on this building, but the taxpayer owns it. which puts it squarely in the jurisdiction of the house transportation and infrastructure committee. they own the hotel, they can investigate it. even they have failed to learn the most basic facts. what countries have spent money with trump at that hotel. how much did they spend? we're hearing some unhappiness from deena titus, one of the congresswomen on that committee

who's a subcommittee chairman saying look, i think my committee chairman is playing too nice because he wants an infrastructure bill. he's being too nice to the trump people. we need to go harder. that may change coming into the fall, especially after this doral decision which puts it out on the table that trump intends to walk right over whatever the norms were before. >> do you feel like we have enough information to be able to ballpark, figure out how much he's profited, how much trump receipts have gone up than what they would have gone without him in the presidency? >> no, we know for individual properties and there's a mix. so some places like doral, the place he's considering for the g7 summit have done quite poorly. profitability has declined 70%. >> he lost a signature golf tournament that basically was his marketing vehicle for vacationing so it's not surprising on that. >> exactly. and his name drove people away from mar-a-lago which has lost revenue. his actions as president have

driven away some of his sort of mainstream corporate clients. but then again the d.c. hotel, which has attracted lots of foreign governments, republicans, lobbying groups, people like t-mobile who have something in front of the government, that hotel has seen revenue be really strong. i don't have enough of the whole picture to tell you whether the trump org as a whole is making money or losing money. >> do we have a sense of how much taxpayer money has gone to a trump property, i mean, between the amount of secret service, trump water, one of the nuggets, what was it? he seemed to make over $100,000 i think on his financial disclosure just from like selling water. >> right. we don't -- we know that the u.s. government has spent a lot of money on his properties. with the early days of 2017, each trip to mar-a-lago brought in at least $20,000 buying trump's own hotel rooms. the government releases this data so slowly in response to freedom of information requests, we only know what happened now in the first half of 2017. that's the most recent data

we've gotten. we know it's in the tens of thousands of dollars, probably a lot more than that because the government's so slow in giving it out, i don't have an accurate picture of how big it is. he's made more than 150 visits to his properties. every one of those brings some government people along. >> david, you don't have to acknowledge this at all, but it does feel like you've done more work than congress has to understand exactly how much money has been flowing in and out of the trump organization based on the trump presidency. david farenthold from "the washington post," thank you, sir. thank you. up next, with the presidential race about to enter a new phase, joe biden gets personal. that a handle is just a handle. or... that you can't be both inside and outside. most people haven't driven a lincoln. it's the final days of the lincoln summer invitation event. right now get 0% apr on all lincoln vehicles

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welcome back, at this point in the democratic primary there are things we know and things we don't know. we know that the field will soon shrink as some candidates miss the next debate stage, but we don't know how fewer candidates

will impact the leader board as support gets consolidated. and while we know that different polls tell us different things, we don't know what that means yet either. a new monmouth poll released yesterday showed a virtual tie at the top of the democratic field between sanders, warren and biden, which had a lot of head turning numbers for biden. that lead seemed durable all summer until a monmouth poll, and then a new morning consult poll comes out that has biden on top by 13 points, sanders at 18, warren sitting at 15, but essential ly looking like all the polls had looked before. look, they all should be taken with their own method logical grains of salt. the only way we will know how the field stands right now is for more polls. let's bring pack the panel, eugene, donna and lonnie. so donna, we don't know if the monmouth poll is showing something real or not. i will say this, if biden is not ahead, if warren has caught him, it means warren's already ahead

in iowa, and i have seen some internal polling in iowa, she's not ahead in iowa. he's still ahead in iowa. there's probably some outlier issue, we'll know in a couple of weeks. here's what i don't get. the biden campaign seekms overl panicked about it. why? >> i think we're going to see polls jumping all over the place because people haven't really made an investment -- >> i'll tell you another reason, there's a lot of bad polling. there's a ton -- and by the way, most of the public polls, even many that we put on here would get c pluses at any academic institution for their methodology. >> that's right and it's -- i mean, and it's really tough because you know, we don't know who's being called, you know, what the universe is. some of these polls have a very, very small sample that they're using, and that impacts -- >> as little -- if you do a -- okay, i'm going to do the math for people. quinnipiac's coming out tomorrow. let's assume their democratic primary sample is 400.

perhaps it will be 500. at 400, what's 2%, lonnie? >> it's eight people. eight people. okay? at 500, it gets you up to ten. >> yeah. >> the point is somewhere between eight and ten people out of 330 million are going to tell us whether tom steyer gets on the debate stage. what are we doing? >> you know, i don't know, and some of this really is pushing it just to get on the debate stage, but here's the thing. we know it's up and down, and i think until we get well into the fall and voters have had a chance to really begin to think about this race, the field is narrowed so that people can make some distinctions among these candidates, we're really not going to know anything, and that's why what you can see is like an elizabeth warren, she's been sort of steady as she goes, and just keep hammering the point. joe biden needs to do the same thing and sort of chill a little bit out on this. >> you know, lonnie, it's ser ren diptous that you're here today. i think when this campaign started we all thought biden was

going to look more like your guy from '12, romney. the polls would gyrate for you guys all throughout the primaries, but steady as it went for him? >> yeah, i mean, this is looking a little more like '16 for jeb bush or '16 for scott walker than '12 for romney. >> ouch. you got biden cratering that fast based on one poll of 298 democratic primary voters. >> the bigger challenge for me is you've got 40% that seem to be aligned. if you believe the polls, 40% are aligned for a different part of the party. that's biden's problem. he's got a problem with where the voters are and where he is in his relative positioning. that's the bigger challenge. now, if biden's not still ahead by the time we get to september, october, november, then it becomes more of a problem for him. >> let's look at this through the prism of who looks the best out of all of this.

whatever poll we see than was before, that's the one consistent thing across all the polling. >> and that mirrors what a lot of us reporters are hearing when we talk to people oengd. you look at the crowd, they're energetic, they're large. people are telling their friends and family about elizabeth warren. there's interest in that. there's growing momentum. one of the things that's interesting about specific lid the monmouth poll, even if it is an outlier, if you looked at it for people under 50, biden was polling in fourth, matching andrew yang. what i think some people are saying is what is biden doing with people who are younger, with voters who are younger, voters who don't consistently show up in polls, voters who perhaps perhaps are still trying to make up their mind what they want to do regarding their democratic nominee, and a lot of those voters are looking at elizabeth warren. >> i want to ask you something about elizabeth warren. jonathan martin in the "new york times" had an interesting story on how she's also playing an

inside game. elizabeth warren knows that there are two things standing in her way of the nomination. one might be bernie sanders. that she might not be able to do anything about. the other is the perception that somehow she's not electable or that she will make it tougher. she's been working insiders quite a bit. it notes about how i've heard an e ek dotes about personal notes she writes to people who appear on cable and say nice things about her. she's working people pretty hard inside, isn't she? >> she is, and i think she's being smart about this campaign. everybody knows that she probably has the smartest campaign going along and she also has developed quite a ground game in iowa, new hampshire, and these early states, and the inside game is part of that. now, that's something that frankly, bernie never did well -- >> elizabeth warren never did this well before. she had a reputation of not playing the inside game very well, whether it was working with tim geithner to build the agency, the consumer -- so this

is new for her. >> it is, but she's recognized that this is something that she has to do, if not to gain their support, then to ally their concerns, and so i think it's really a smart move for her, but it doesn't -- she doesn't abandon any of her public policy goals or the way that she attracts these crowds or the enthusiasm they have for her. >> we still have -- i still keep coming back to, well, we haven't seen her get attacked yet, but maybe she's definitely walking this to the point where she's made it very hard for fellow democrats to go after her. >> joe biden might be setting that up with the ad he put out on health care. >> the rip it up. >> he may not proactively attack it, but if she comes after him, he might have a more vigorous defense than he has in the past, and i think it's the right issue to set up contrast on. there he's got a record, biden does. he's got affiliation with a figure democrats really admire in president obama. >> that's easily his most effective -- >> the polling ad is a terrible ad. why would you ever put polls in your ad when monmouth --

>> that's what happens, one poll undermines the entire ad. sorry. >> absolutely, i certainly think elizabeth warren perhaps not being targeted so far doesn't mean that much considering how early it is. we will see what happens in october. we'll see what happens when these polls continue to show what they are showing. >> let me bring up the issue -- let me bring up the candidate that if i don't bring him up we're all going to get attacked on social media. there's a third candidate who was in a three-way tie for this. it bugs the living daylights out of the sanders campaign that they're right now feeling like they're being -- i think they think they're being treated, donna, as sort of the -- oh, the candidate that is getting in the way of the warren biden primary. and i think the sanders people are going, we were here first, and we set this entire process up. are people writing off bernie too soon? >> you know, i think that they shouldn't write him off. i mean, and here's the reason why. he does appear in that top three, and look, there is -- >> consistently. >> there is a tier here, and the

rest of the candidates are going to have to do catchup, but clearly whether it's one, two, three, or three, two, one, the top three candidates are warren, biden and sanders, and i didn't say that in any particular order. >> no, and i think that's what we're learning. if you look in the primary states, believe it or not, that's always the first three. they're not always in the same order either, and we're starting to see that. thank you, guys. great group. up ahead, after after a landmark court ruling on the opioid crisis, we've got new reporting here on a potentially landmark settlement to the tune of more than $10 billion. we'll have more on that ahead. they customized my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. then i won the lottery, got hair plugs, and started working out. and so can you!

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