loosened this sunday. i'm joined live by tim ryan on what can be done. first, we're watching twin stories unfold. one on american soil and one heading this way. in texas seven people and a 36-year-old gunman are dead in just the latest mass shooting in america. by "the new york times" count, that is 53 people killed in mass shootings this month. among the wounded 17-month-old anderson dave i. who is expected to make a full recovery. in a moment i will talk to the doctor who treated the victims about the incredible burden on this nation and its doctors. a bronze star and he even treat treat treated saddam hussein. and it looks like this in outer space and in the eye of hurricane hunters, the inside being occasionally lit up by

massive lightning strikes. up close in the bahamas, strongest hurricane in modern record to strike the island is producing terrifying winds and rains. we're getting in videos like these showing water pouring into these coastal communities. >> i have never seen this. >> and when it's done there, the storm will make its way to the east coast. but the question at this hour is how close to florida georgia, sadly north carolina is it going

to go? i want to get right to nbc meteorologist bill karins, who may have answers for us. bill, what is it looking like right now >> >> it still looks like this is a coastal scraper. we're not going to guarantee landfall anywhere but close enough portion to the florida coast, georgia, south carolina for significant impacts. will they be minor, moderate? probably but i don't think it will be historic. but you have to take a second and look back and realize you're looking at the strongest storm that's been this close to the u.s. mainland in 84 years. that's most of our lifetimes we never had a storm this strong close to the u.s. mainland. 1935 is the last time we had a storm this intense making landfall. wa about camille? camille had lower pressure and winds were 175 and not 185. second-highest ever measured in

the atlantic basin. the forecast in case you're just joining us, 5:00 advisory from the national hurricane center. it will be one of the most powerful hurricanes they ever have seen in the bahamas. the forecast still calls for about 30 hours and 100-plus miles per hour in freeport. can you imagine being in your shelter, your safe room, family, kids, elderly for 30 straight hours? that's what they're going to go through until monday afternoon when the storm finally starts to pull away. notice uncertainty on the east coast of florida. we hope it will be over here farther into the ocean. but the red line is 30 to 50 miles per hour off the coast, 30 to 50 miles off the coast and our computer model, as we continue to watch the squiggly lines, two we still don't like that bring it onshore, why the cone of uncertainty includes this area but the major european

models are also off the coastline. as far as our friends go farther up the north, the cone of uncertainty goes through coastal georgia, half of south carolina and north carolina, parts of richmond and include southern portions of new jersey and delaware and maryland. by the time it got there, it would likely be a category 1 if not weaker up towards delmarva. but this is the area of concern. certainly why evacuation orders are in south carolina here. we think the storm will be very close here, 105-mile-per-hour winds potentially. as far as the computer models go in this area, a lot are similar. bringing it along the coastal area and parallel the coast and some clip areas of north carolina. steve, we have to still prepare for the worst. the forecast for florida be really for a lot of these areas is not worst-case scenario but close to it. one other areas we're watching, the bahamas, where freeport is

down to the south, at the edge of the hurricane is morgan chesky. let's check in with morgan in nassau. how is it looking, morgan? >> i'm at nassau, bahamas. we are still feeling significantly the rain from the outer bands. all of the people who are trapped on the island of abaco where the category 5 winds made their way in earlier today bringing up to 20 feets of storm surge with it and causing immeasurable damage. in fact, we are just now seeing some of the first glimpses there and it's heartwrenching to know right now there are efforts under way to make sure people are still alive in some of the hardest-hit areas. as we say that, we have to turn to grand bahama, where dorian is headed next. home to 50,000 people. we know dozens of shelters are open and people are taking advantage of them, having already seen what it's capable of in neighboring abaco.

we know we don't know how long they will have to sustain shelter because of dorian being such a slow-moving storm but right now there's a high level of uneasiness as this storm continues to churn its way through the northern bahamas and leave incredible damage behind. bill? >> morgan chesky, thank you so much. coming from right here on this map, the very southern portion of the hurricane. florida governor ron desantis is urging residents to follow evacuation orders after hurricane dorian went to category 5. evacuations for parts of patch beach, before vard, st. lucie county and st. johns county. parts of south carolina will begin evacuation starting at noon tomorrow in areas around jacksonville and it also begins tomorrow. it was too close, steve. can't take a chance if this jogs towards the coast.

you can't have millions of people evacuating all at once so critical areas need to get out starting tomorrow. >> good advice. thank you for that. we want to turn to the other major story of the week, and that was massive shooting around odessa, texas. according to police 36-year-old ator started firing after a police stop. miguel, what do we know now? >> steve, good evening. this is where it all came to an end. the local police and fbi are still processing the crime scene. the theater behind me is where the suspect was killed by the police in a shootout. investigators have not released a motive but two law enforcement officials tell nbc news the suspect was recently fired from his job before the rampage began. >> oh, god, share shooting right there. >> reporter: as gunfire erupted, this was the scramble to stay alive. >> get down! get down!

>> reporter: through the chaos and carnage, authorities hunting down a killer in west texas. >> windshield shot out. >> reporter: a gunman on a shooti shooting spree, blowing down victims seemingly at random, blowing down 10 miles of interstate. during the rampage, 7 killed, 22 wounded, 3 law enforcement, and among the survivors, 11-month-old baby shot in the face, hidden by her dad as she hid on the ground. >> she said daddy,ky see the gunman and i don't know if he's coming this way or not. and your first thought you're thinking that's the last time i will see my daughter. it's going to happen right in front of me. >> reporter: it all happened at a routine traffic stop, the guy

identified as seth ator. after hijacking a mail truck began shooting at civilians all over odessa. initially fearing multiple gunman, law enforcement tracked the suspect to this movie theater and opened fire. >> what's going on? >> a shooter. get down. >> reporter: the 36-year-old killed during the gun battle. authorities offering no motive but saying they believe the theater may have been a possible target. >> why go to the theater if you're not planning on entering the theater. >> reporter: the bloodshed comes four weeks after the massacre at a walmart in el paso. with 22 killed there, tonight texas is reeling again. investigators are now poring over the suspect's digital footprint as well as his recent job loss. investigators say why 17 people are still fighting for their lives tonight, it's a miracle more people were not killed during the rampage.

steve? >> miguel almaguer, thank you for reporting. appreciate that. in the aftermath of yesterday's shooting, police talked about the frantic effort to stop the gunman. as so often is the case, there's confusion whether there were multiple gunman, as miguel reported, especially in this case the suspect changed cars and talking about how preparation in the modern era is critical for being ready for an event like this one for themselves and america in general. here's more from executive deputy director dr. bows. >> when something like this happens it's action put together from preparation for years in advance. i encourage everyone in every community no matter what size, if you're in the middle of the desert or urban area, to prepare in advance. unfortunately, it may not be a matter of if but a matter of when and for us this preparation helped us today.

for us it emphasized it's not about the doctor, not about us, it's about the family. but myself personally, i'm an iraq war veteran. i served 12 years in the military and served in the second battle of fallujah and baghdad. this is something unfortunately i'm very experienced at, mass casualty situations. this is what led us to form the preparation process with hundreds and hundreds of people that you are not seeing here that are very intricately involved in a situation like this. >> joining me now is the man you just heard from in that clip, dr. suedy bose. thank you very much for being here. maybe start with the victims who are being cared for right now, can you give us an update on how that is going? >> we finished initial stabilization and they are scattered at different hospitals. so i think we should refer somewhere else for the detail

numbers. it's an hour-to-hour update for everybody. >> he were talking in that clip and a lot of folks heard it or saw it yesterday in realtime. but the idea of preparation and the idea of this potentially being something we've seen a number of times in recent years, it seems likely it will happen more in the future. what kinds of preparation in particular do you think people should be doing here? >> this is such a key concept that i encourage every community in america to follow. we did this in west texas and honestly, it ran like clockwork. it went so smoothly. it's about building a system. it's not about one doctor, one individual, one surgeon, it's about a system. and the system incorporates different players. everyone from police who were initially involved to other community members and the paramedics. i'm the medical director for the city of odessa paramedics so i

personally have skin in the game for each and every paramedic. all of our ambulances were filled. every paramedic was out and about. and every single one lived up to their training. i didn't have to do anything. they were the heroes, the paramedics, police department, hospital staff that was there and called in. so this didn't just happen on accident. this is years of preparation. this is years and years of planning how to handle situations like this, who to call in, what resources you need, where the bottlenecks are. and this is doable. we can do this. >> we mentioned in a clip we played yesterday, your service in iraq, the mass casualty situations you saw in that capacity. i don't know if you had any time to process the last 24 or 36 hours, but seeing it in america, seeing it on the ground here, seeing it in the town you work and city you work, has that impacted you any differently?

>> you know, the concepts are the same and what was amazing yesterday is how everybody just clicked into a mode to get the job done. law enforcement, front line paramedics and hospital staff. you know, when you see this covered on the news, you may see oh, wow, look at this and that. but everybody just gets into this mode and you flip to it and you get the job done. that's the same as the military and it's the same here. but you have to do this by setting up a system ahead of time and preparing. and that means preparing at the basic level, even the viewers watching. do you know how to do cpr and chest compressions? do you know what a stop-the-bleeding kit is? do you know how to do the basic things if someone chokes or someone falls to the ground? i think we as americans can do this, and we can be ready because those first few minutes always matter, even before help arrives. >> aside from this matter of preparation you're talking about, any other takeaways, you

think anything else you want americans to know in the wake of this tragedy? >> i think the main thing is that you have to prepare in peace time for war time. and this applies to your personal life as well. what are the things that can hit? in your community it could be a missile, it can be a microbe, it can be a natural disaster. in your home or personal life it can be something. if you anticipate, you'll be ready for this. i'm amazed how a town in west texas in the middle of the desert just ran flawlessly and we were able to handle this trauma and i encourage everyone, every community in america to do this. we got this. >> dr. bose, thank you so much. we appreciate you taking time tonight. and we will consider this conversation next when i'm joined by vaughn hillyard, who had been reporting on texas' loosening of gun laws that goes

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anything. we're doing a package and we'll see what it's -- how it comes about. it's coming about right now, and a lot of people are talking about it. and that's irrespective of what happened yesterday in texas. background checks, i have okayed that. for the most part, sadly, if you look at the first five going back at least five, six, seven years, for the most part as strong as you make your background checks, they would not have stopped any of them. so it's a big problem. it's a mental problem. it's a big problem. >> president trump today on his level of interest in changing gun laws. and in "the washington post" piece published two weeks ago, our analysis of the aftermath of high-profile shootings suggest interest in addressing the problem tapers after about three weeks. goes on to say, this is often the unstated goal of gun rights advocates, allow the passion

that immediately follows the attacks to cool, often demanding politics wait until a appropriate mourning period has passed. meanwhile 2020 candidate beto o'rouke appears to agree with president trump background checks may not solve the problem but o'rourke is suggesting a much farther-reaching gun control in its place. >> how would you address the fears that government will take away assault rifle it's you're talking about buybacks. >> so i want to be really clear that exactly what we're going to do. americans who own ar-15s, ak-47s will have to sell them to the government. we're not going to allow them to stay on our streets, to show up in our communities, to be used against us in our synagogues, our churches, our mosques, our walmarts, our public places. >> with that i would like to welcome in my panel, senior

political reporter for yahoo! news, john ward, political reporter for "the daily beast" and msnbc contributor betsy woodruff and in odessa, texas, nbc news political reporter vaughn hilliard. vaughn, let me start with you. there's a discussion here now about what's going to happen or what might happen or what might not happen at the federal level in response to this. but on the ground in texas where this particular tragedy happened, today happens to mark the beginning of new changes to laws, state laws related to guns. tell us what's happening there. >> that conversation is going to begin amid the conversation about the seven that were killed. i just want to -- laila hernandez, joseph griffiths, row doll foe and mary granados, the four names released in the shooting yesterday we know at this point. there are three others whose names have not been released to the public yet. this conversation is happening

in the context of not only happened yesterday here but also last month in el paso. one year ago there were eight students, two teachers killed at a high school outside of houston. two years ago 28 killed at sutherland springs. governor abbott, the republican governor, was here today in odessa and took part of in that press conference. and when asked about what steps the state legislature, what steps the governor, what steps the state of texas needed to take in addressing these mass shootings, this is part of what the governor said -- >> i'm heartbroken by the crying of the people of state of texas. i'm tired of dyeing. for the people of the state of texas. too many texans are in mourning, too many texans have lost their lives. this mass flow in texas is unacceptable and action is needed. we need solutions to keep guns

out of the hands of the criminals like the killer here in odessa while also ensuring we safeguard second amendment rights and we must do it fast. >> it should be clearly noted that governor abbott was asked multiple times over the last month whether he would call this state legislature in to a special session, and steve, he's not said to date that he would do such a thing. we should note, here in the state of texas, the legislature convenes every two years. they are not set to convene again until 2021. there were multiple bills brought before the state legislature this year including the expansion of background checks, including the ban on assault weapons, including the passage of red flag laws, none of those were ever brought to a vote by this republican legislature and none of them had the backing of governor abbott. we should note, in fact, today i was in austin here over the last couple of days essentially previewing the gun legislation that was going to go into effect

today, september 1. those were four pleasures that would loosen gun restrictions. those measures included in times of a state-declared disaster or emergency, individuals even without a permit would be able to carry a gun. it included that landlords could not ban tenants from having a weapon at the place of their residence t included an expansion of the number of what they call marshals inside of schools, those were individuals that were state trained to have weapons inside of schools. these are the types of legislation that did pass in the last legislative session, steve, not those that would further restrict the types of guns or background checks here in the state of texas. >> so that's what's going on at the state level in texas. in terms of the federal level we're already hearing here, john, in response to this tragedy in odessa, in response to several others recently, you have gun control advocates, democrats basically saying, their immediate demand is for the senate to pick up what the

house packed, the democratic-controlled house passed back in february, the universal background checks bill, expansion of the federal background check system, democrats obviously had the votes to get that to the house. it's languished in the senate since. is there any scenario you can see when congress returns in a week or two where with the senate might pick that up or something like that? >> i think to date mitch mcconnell has basically said that any legislation he doesn't think president trump is going to sign, if he doesn't think the president will sign it, he's not going to pick it up. i think to the point the senate starts looking to trump for leadership on this, which for the most part in terms of leading the country through a time of real crisis on this issue, has been lacking. i think more broadly when you talk about where the public is on what should be done, i think to what the doctor you just interviewed said, he said just get the job be done. i think a lot of americans

increasingly are beginning to feel that way about this problem. i think they're going to be looking more and more to the government, notwithstanding the fact there are many americans who have a fierce belief in the second amendment. short of absolute right to bear arms. and i think we've seen a difference in philosophy there in texas. basically a philosophy of we should all arm ourselves and i think underneath a lot of that conservatism is a moral one and spiritual one and we need a moral revival. i think the alternative here, which we will see if democrats portray a clear contrast, is that there are too many guns and we need stricter gun laws. >> betsy woodruff, job ward mentions republicans in the senate in particular looking to okay cues from president trump. when it comes to president trump and guns, so much discussion about his relationship with the nra. you have been doing a lot of reporting recently about the state of the nra right now, as gun control returns to the

center of the national political debate. what role will the nra play in the turmoil, we can describe some of the turmoil, will that impact its ability to play a role here? >> there's immense turmoil within the nra now and in particular facing a lot of major funding challenges. they're embroiled in a host of expensive legal fights. the most recent data we have on their fund-raising shows it has dropped by tens of millions of dollars. what that means is at this moment san franciscoly ftrategia could prove to be lucrative. because any time there's a serious conversation at the federal level about restricting americans' access to guns, even in a small way, the nra uses these moments to fund-raise and to tell its supporters that the federal government is coming to take their guns. and often those fund-raising pleas prove to be quite lucrative. at the same time, however, the nra also does have concern that something actually could happen

on capitol hill. i obtained a letter a couple days ago that a senior nra official wrote to the members of its large board. initially they had planned to have a major board meeting in mid-september in alaska. but at the last minute they changed the location of that board meeting to northern virginia, in part, according to the letter i obtained, because they want wayne lapierre and other senior nra lobbyists and board members to be in close physical proximity to capitol hill and the white house, as what they expect to be a major and high-stakes fight over gun laws played out. >> i want to follow up, too, on something you were saying a minute ago about the politics of this. we've seen tragedies, we've seen mass shootings before. we've seen i can remember 2013 after sandy hook, background checks made it to the senate floor. they didn't get out of there but there was at least a debate there back then. you always see the statistic,

90% support universal background checks. i remember after 2013 there was not a political price that was paid for anybody who didn't go along with background checks, despite that polling. it sounds like you're suggesting the accumulation of these tragedies though may be changing the politics of this? >> i think if you just think about the average parent who drops their child off at school, the fear of what's going to happen after that is becoming i think a greater and greater kind of common presence on their mind. i don't think a lot of americans are going to stand for that. i do understand the fact that there is strong resistance to this. but this is becoming -- has become, is an epidemic. i just don't understand how it can continue without a major backlash from the american public. i would just sort of repeat what i said earlier, which is i don't think to this point that democrats have really offered a clear contrast to republicans, and there's a lot of reasons for

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trump was supposed to be in poland this weekend but instead stayed behind to monitor hurricane dorian, posting plenty of tweets on everything from james comey to debra messing. but there's one tweet friday getting more attention than the rest, president trump's account posted this photo with the message the united states of america was not involved in a catastrophic accident during final launch preparations. he goes on, i wish iran best wishes and good luck in determining what happened at site one. joining me from washington is "the washington post" reporter

john hudson. john, thank you for joining us. it was -- during the day friday this tweet went out, got a lot of attention because it appears that was classified material. complain what the president was posting there. >> absolutely. if you look at that image, that is an incredible resolution in that photo and it's not something that you're going to see with standard commercial satellite imagery. of course, the united states has some of the most technologically sophisticated spy tools and surveillance tools such as secret spy satellites, spy planes and it raised a lot of questions about the type of aerial equipment that was used and whether or not the president in an effort to perhaps taunt, perhaps troll the iranians, let go and really revealed what our highly classified american surveillance tools. >> take us through the process, this is something a lot of us

are learning about because of this tweet friday, but when you hear about classified information made public, you always assume that's a major no-no. my understanding is it's classified but if the president does it, basically suddenly it isn't classified anymore. >> absolutely, that's true. and it's very possible this went through a very quick streamline classification process where the president expressed a desire to do this and they got sign-off. but that's something the president has broad authority to do. really unlikely he broke the law. the real question, and i have talked to officials about this earlier today, is whether or not he exposed our equipment, whether or not he gave the iranians a sense of what we can see. and the concern would be that the iranians start changing their behaviors and activities when it comes to launches. when they see what we see, they start accounting differently.

this all goes back to the secret of launches. there's concerns from official when's iranians make these type of tests, they're doing it in a way to advance their intercontinental ballistic missiles. so it's very high-stakes stuff and it was very interesting see the president use twitter in this way. >> shifting gears here but you had a very interesting piece of reporting the other day about john bolton, president's national security adviser, potentially being sidelined when it comes to afghanistan policy. what is happening there? >> this is nearly unprecedented in our history of national security adviser being so cut out of the process of what is one of the most important foreign policy decisions that is happening right now in the trump administration. obviously the trump administration is trying to secure a landmark peace deal in afghanistan with the hope of

ending america's longest war. national security adviser john bolton is deeply and profounding opposed to the emerging peace deal our special enjoy is negotiating right now. and as a result he's been cut off and officials have told me he's been cut out of extremely important high-level meetings out of a fear that his team has a reputation of, quote, losing and leaking, that is not getting the policy they want and leaking about it later. as a result there was a critical meeting earlier this month, august 16th actually, on which they decided the future of afghanistan and a peace deal and national security adviser bolton was not originally invited, had to appeal to mulvaney to get an invite. also didn't have the draft agreement originally, something that the taliban actually had more information on. so this is really unprecedented behavior and it goes down to the absolute mistrust that exists between senior officials, the

president and ambassador bolton. >> and i was going to ask, between specifically trump himself, the president himself and john bolton, is that relationship just totally deteriorated? >> it certainly is starting to fray. and afghanistan isn't the only issue. these two men disagree very much on north korea. the president has purposefully excluded ambassador bolton from important meetings with north korean officials. bode bolton a ambassador bolton and his team also gave a rosy promise to venezuela that the departure of nicolas maduro would be quick after swift sanctions. as we've seen, that's not been the case. the president has been frustrated by that. on the horizon we have the president expressing an interest and willingness to meet the iranian leadership, something mr. bolton is opposed to. a lot of fireworks going on. a lot of clashing of opinions between the president and his

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the focus needs to be more on mental health and red flag laws. what do you say about that? >> i think it's absolutely ridiculous, steve and it's infuriating to me and so many thousands and millions of other americans who are watching this unfold every single day, week in the united states, not just the mass shootings but shootings of one or two people through gun violence every single day in communities across the united states. we're sick of this. and we're infuriated and we want action. we want mitch mcconnell to get off his as and do something in the united states senate. how you can watch the stories of fathers getting killed with kids, 17-month-old kid getting damage from shrapnel, 15-year-old high school sid, and -- kid and do something absolutely is infuriating to any american who has common sense and 90% in the polling want something done and push this off

on mental health, then why the hell is the president's, both of his mrk initiatives, the one from the house and one from the senate last year, kick 20 million people off their health care that includes mental health coverage? so he's kplutly fucompletely fus well. say he want it's and cut people off health care, he's doing the potomac two-step. mitch mcconnell is emboldening him and a sycophant to donald trump. this has to stop, teev. the american people are tired of it. it mitch mcconnell wants to go in the election and put himself on the line in suburban atlanta and north carolina and charleston and greenville and columbia with lindsey graham and lexington and louisville, in des moines, in topeka, let's do it. let's do the dance. you're going to lose. and we are finally going to get gun reform in the united states. that's how this is going to go down. 30,000 members of moms demand

action just in the last couple of weeks. it's not just the nra standing out there all by itself. there are alternative groups of moms and parents and reasonable people, democrats, republicans, hunters, police officers who are tired of it and now there's a counterbalance and they're going to lose. >> the president seems to be suggesting he's against background checks. let me ask you about this from the other angle, one of your opponents in the democratic presidential race, beto o'rouke, he says today he wants to have a mandatory buyback program for all ak-47s and ar-15s. would you support that? >> i think participating in that is fine, volunteering in that is fine. we're so far away from passing anything that goes along the line of mandatory, we can't even get background checks. we can't get red flag laws. >> do you think the -- let me ask you, do you think it's a good idea, would it help the situation if you could do it?

>> look f. you cou, if you coul weapons of war off the street, i support an assault weapons ban. i think we can do it. but let's keep the focus on the issues where 90% or 80% of american people are in agreement and that's where we are. we have these guys on the ropes. let's push these issues and then work our way towards an assault weapons ban and other things. but right now we have 97% of the american people supporting us on a clean background check bill, closing the charleston loophole, which is almost as high in polling as the background check, win senate seats and get this thing done. that's the smart way to go about this. >> i want to ask you about something else happening today and that is tariffs, another round of tariffs, part of the trade war with china, going into effect today. i was in a chair, this one, about a week ago with a guest who said these new tariffs in

the trade war guarantees a recession. do you agree with that? >> i don't think there's any question. i think there is going to be one and this is just going to throw gasoline on the fire and make matters worse. i'm all for taking on china. they do cheat with international property. they do subsidize their products. they did for the longest time manipulate their currency and i think they're starting to do it again now. we've got to be firm but trump has completely bungled this whole thing. i was just with my kid out at the playground, steve and an old high school buddy shows up with his daughter. he used to work at the gm factory just outside of youngstown. he's now driving to flint, michigan, and comes home only on the weekend. trump bungled this economy. he promised people they didn't have to sell their house. he promised new plants would open up. none of that has happened. we need a nominee in our party that can hold his feet to the fire. what i'm saying whether it's tariffs or manufacturing or any of these other issues about how he will rebuild the middle

class, i believe i'm the guy who can best hold his feet to the fire in michigan, in wisconsin, in ohio, in western p.a. go to mitim ryan for america.co and help me out and take him ou >> if you want president, would you rescind all of the tariffs he's imposed? >> i would sit down and have a negotiation. who knows where we'll be 18 or 16 months from now, whenever it is, by the time i get in office. i want a firm position with china. we have to out-compete them. they're beating us with building electric vehicles, they're dominating the solar market, they're dominates 5g. i want to fill these old plans with electric vehicles. that's how you beat china. i want us to build the batteries. those jobs are $30 an hour jobs, not $15 an hour jobs.

the democrats need to be for creating that new economy, rebuild the middle class, take trump out and let's hit the reset button. let's close the skills gap, invest in education and health care and rebuild the country. we need somebody who can lead that charge and win these states. dealing with hype firmly is one way of doing that, but you also have to rebuild the economy. >> i just want to make sure i'm clear. it sounds like you're not necessarily opposed to tariff also, just opposed to the way the president is using them. tariffs in principle, you might have some use, you're saying? >> i think so. i've represented northeast ohio for 17 years. i watched china subsidize steel, other products and put steel workers in the united states out of work. their final product landing on the shores of the united states was the same as the raw material costs of the american company. that's not fair. so, yes, you knee counter-vails

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♪ welcome back to this special edition of "kasie dc." i'm steve kornacki here in new york. alongside me, bill karins is tracking hurricane dorian, and we have our team of reporters. bill, you were just telling us take it away. >> steve, it's just an intensity and position update. the forecast update will be at

11 p.m. this evening, but the first time in days, it's no longer intensifying. they left the winds alone. measuring the pressure of these storms, and the temperature has been rising ever so slowly. you have the eyes, the hurricane hunters drop these sounds through into the center of the storm, and they found it rose five millibars. all that tells us is it's no long intensifying, as the pressure rises, the winds will begin to come down. it would be a three or four-day process of watching this ever so slowly tick down. we expect it has hit es peak or peaking. it would be surprising if it gets worse. they already had a horrible blow in marsh harbor, and the western eyewall is heading overshore

with the grand bahama. this is a three-hour loop. in three hours it goes from here to here. that's like 15 miles. how painful is that. the storm it/shows you how close its to the florida coastline, the outer showers and bands are starting to get to the florida coast. gabe gutierrez is in stewart, florida. is that what you're seeing. >> reporter: in fact that's what we're seeing. itches standing out on the beach, things seemed fine, but all of a sudden this big rainband just started pounding us. it was impressive how quickly it came. we've been here on the florida course, and as this massive storm batters the bahamas, we've been seeing mandatory evacuations begin along the florida coast here. martin county, they had delayed the mandatory evacuation, but it

got under way. we're expected more tomorrow just to our north in brevard county. businesses have been boarding up the last several days, but all it takes is a shift in the storm to cause heavy damage here. we're already, again, just starting to see some of this initial rain from hurricane dorian slam into the florida coast, bill. >> have you been talking to some of the people on the beaches? what's the feel, the mood there? >> well, i'll tell you what, a category 5 decidingation certainly gets a lot of attention. a few days ago they were thinking it would be at least a category 4. the track had it goes right through south florida. it was a big of a sigh of relief when it tracked north and east. you know, that was yesterday when we were speaking to some residents, but overnight there

was that unpredictability, really, the sense with such a powerful storm category 5 decidingation, all it takes is just a jog to the west and that could heavily impact many of these communities. here in stewart, florida, we were next to several onlookers looking at the choppy beach. hard to see right now. i was just out there. we were going to show you the choppy surf, but things got dicey so quickly with one of these rainbands. of course we expect this to get much worse, deteriorating conditions tomorrow as hurricane dorian begins to scrape the florida coast, bill. >> gabe guidier, we'll be checking in with him a lot. that western eyewall will be closest to gabe there as we go throughout tuesday. here's the forecast path.

this was from the 5:00 p.m. advisory. we'll get the new one at 11:00 p.m. most of our models have it just offshore, only about 30, 40 mines off the coast, but we have at least two models, at least even as far as this afternoon had it over kennedy space center. there's still a chance we'll get the hurricane conditions on the coast. the yellow line is what we call the hurricane wharf model, and there's actually two. these are the two i was talking about. the majority off the coast, but then they see two have refused to budge back. sooner or later something will happen. we'd like to get more agreement, but as you've been hearing about, all evacuation orders

going out, we can't take a chance with a category 5, likely as a category 4 as we go into tuesday. morgan chesky is in the bahamas. bill, good evening from nassau, bahamas, where the worst of dorian have made its way through this area, but we're feeling significant wind and rain from the outer bands. the main concern right now, all of the people currently trapped on the island of abaco where the category 5 winds made their way through earlier today, bringing upwards of 20 feet of storm surge, and causing immesh rablt damage, wee seeing some of the first glimpses, and it's simply heart-wrenching to know there's rescue efforts to make sure people are still alive in some of the hardest-hit areas. and we have to turn to grand bahama, home to more than 50,000 people. dozens ofshelters are open.

we do know they don't know how long they'll have to sustain shelter, because of dorian being such a slow-moving storm, but there's a high level of uneasyness, as this storm churns will be the northern bahamas. bill? >> morgan chesky is in the bahamas. the pictures of the extreme damage was in the eye of the storm. that means those people had only gone through half of the storm we have to wait to see what happens during the second part of the storm. don't think that the pictures you are seeing now really tell the story. it will probably be two times as bad, if not worse. our friends all up the coastline are wondering, what about us?

even if it's a category 2 or 1, that's still a big deal. that cancels schools, makes people stay in homes with their kids. power could still go out. the hurricane center has all of eastern north carolina, south carolina, a sliver here of portions of southern virginia, also the georgia coastline. it does weaken going down to a 2 to a 1, but as i mentioned those areas have been hit by those storms and they're not fun. as far as the possibility of the high risk of strong winds, it's coastal florida and coastal areas of the carolinas and georgia. we could extend it up earlier if we see the forecast gets closer to that. the rainfall we haven't talked about it, if it's along the coast, the rainy side are usually offshore to the east and the north. if we have any potentially problems, i would mostly be concerned about the sound area

here, so that's what we'll have to watch here. the biggest issues appears to be the rough surf, the waves, storm surge possibility, and wind. and now we go to moment panno beapa pomp ano beach. >> we are expecting some of those first rain bands later this evening, but most noticeably we've noticed how dead it is, a lack of tourism. people not coming to the beach to partake in the one of the biggest holidays. initially this hotel was almost sold out. now they are down to 30 rooms occupied. that is a significant indicator that visitors and residents alike are both heeding the warnings that nasty weather is on the way. of course, this has a huge impact on the florida economy as

tourism is so important in this area. bill? >> are you hear anything else about being canceled? i've heard stories about school broadband canceled. how about in your area? >> reporter: well, in broward and dade school was canceled tomorrow because of the holiday, but i believe school is also cansed on tuesday, and several universities have also canceled schools in tuesday, and some of the tolls have already been suspended. >> smart propose race, in case that storm does something unpredicted, we would have to move a lot of people in a hurry. >> one last thing star the maps go, tomorrow, the store freeport, steve, that's the area that will be hit by the category 5 winds. today the island that was hit, great abaco, grand bahama, freeport, 50,000 people call that home. our thoughts are with them all

tonight and tomorrow. they'd be in the heart of one of the strongest storms we have seen in the last 84 years. >> thank you, bill. appreciate you being very on top of this storm. joining miss is craig few gauga. thank you for taking a few moments with me. still uncertainty with where it exists, where the storm might miss. from the standpoint of fema, to be prepared for contingencies, how do you handle that kind of uncertainty? >> fema has already had folks here, in south carolina, north carolina, georgia, the way they approach this, they always assume the worst case, as the storm began that tracking north, they didn't immediately shut down and move north.

the real focus is on the evacuations we've got to remind people. hurricane charley, earl thought it was going to florida, people were surprised, but in a hurricane-warned area. so these warnings are the thing people should be focusing on, less than the cone of the track. if you're in those evacuation zones, that means the possible can occur. you can't down this storm may wobble, may come ashore, that would all be within the forecast possibilities. >> you mentioned one of the challenges, it always seems, is convincing folks, maybe in an evacuation zone, hurricane warning, convincing them, if need be, to leave. >> we saw this in 2004. people that were south down in ft. myers, said the hurricane was going to tampa.

we're in a warned away, but it really won't impact us, but they did. that's the whole thing about the warnings. it's the areas that the center has identified the greatest risk of possibly getting hurricane conditions within 24 hours or less. that's where the decision-making takes place for the local officials. not where the storm cone looks, but where are the warnings up, and how much time does it take people tout out? people do have time. this is an advantage of a slow-moving storm, but they should not waiting for the forecast. if it doesn't, they'll run out time. you are familiar with how fema runs, how fema operates. a little bit has been made of the fact that fema right now has an acting director, a lot of interim folks, acting folks within the trump administration. does that make a difference in a moment like this, acting versus

fully appointed? >> no. during governmental transitions between president, we appoint a civilian, a career fema official to serve as the acting administrator between the appointments of the new political appointed. the acting administrator has all the authorities as the senate-confirmed administrator, so there's no lack of thought. in a response, this is really not an issue. a lot of folks acting interim are the career civil service folks that are top notch. i have no real concerns about the confidence of the fema leadership team right now. that's kind of a distraction. let's focus on the impact of the communities, the evacuation and what the public needs to be doing. fema will be able to support the states. >> craig fugate, thank you much for taking a few minutes. . there is a lot more to come

tonight. the other big story, another mass shooting, this time in west texas. s congressman rho khanna is back, and. as you know, the president has a concern way of talking about category a storms. >> i'm not sure i've even heard of a category 5. category 5 is something i'm not sure i've heard. >> >> it was a category 5. i never even knew a category 5 existed. got hit as a 5, category 5 storm, which literally never happens. >> it actually touched down as a category 5. people have never seen anything like that. >> this has been a category 5, which feet people have heard of. >> a category 5, nobody has ever heard of a hurricane hitting land. >> category 5.

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welcome back. this is a live look at a vigil taking place at the university of texas permian basin in odessa, texas, that community reeling from a mass shooting yesterday that claimed the lives of seven people and wounded 22 others. it started with a traffic stop. police say the gunman opened

fire on the trooper who pulled him over. the gunman drove off. he police confirm today that the shooter used an ar type of rifle. democratic congressman rho khanna is urging nancy pelosi to call congress back early. congressman, thank you for taking a few minutes. we keep hearing this refrain in the last 24r hours. do something. those two words -- do something. what specifically do you want congress to do about this? >> well, steve, first let me just say that people are shaken and scared around this country. let's recounseled the facts. yesterday a mass shooting, seven

dead, a 17-month-old toddler shot in the face. two days before that, friday in alabama, a mass shooting at a high school football game, where ten people were injured. it's just been five weeks since the mass shooting near my district in gilroy, a shooting in el paso and then dayton. when i talk to people at home, all of you, you're too timid, you're too cautious. be bold, we're sick of the politics. get something done, and we can do something. speaker pelosi should call back the congress. don't let us out. let's have a vote on the assault weapons ban, on banning high-capacity magazines, society on every single gun violence bill and state in that chamber until those votes are done. >> you mentioned the idea of being bold. we were talking about this

earlier. beto o'rourke, your former colleagues there, this was an ar-15 type of weapon. he says take every ar-15, every ak-47, and make them subject to a mandatory buyback. what do you think of that idea? >> i think we should have an assault weapons ban, and we are a bills with a voluntary buyback, but the first thing we need is a ban. we haven't had a vote. for one year we haven't had a vote on an actual ban. we know this ban works. how do we know? president clinton had it? 1984, and mass shootings were down. so my view is let's have all of this gun violence legislation for a vote and let's force every member to vote up and down on every piece of legislation. >> there is the question, of course, democrats control the house. you're the majority party there. if you so choose, you could bring to the floor, have votes

on, maybe even pass a lot of what you're talking about, but republicans control the senate. do you think anything is going to change in terms of the senate's willingness to consider and potential support enough they? >> we can't just sit bags and say let's not do anything, let's wait. the people gave us the majority for a reason. we've got to show we are willing to do everybody in our power. i think if we had a dramatic moment, if the speaker said we're not letting anyone out until we're voting on the legislation, the media would cover it 24/7, and it would put an enormous amount of pressure on the senate. i had admiration for speaker pelosi on the floor for eight hours, in support of the dreamers. they think congress is paralyzed. we have to reassure them that we

get it, and i don't think people sense that we're doing that yet. >> i node here that the house judiciary committee, did have in mind something similar to what you're talking about. they had planned to come back early. they had meetings scheduled for this coming wednesday. they just announced in the last two days they'll have to postpone that because of this hurricane, and wait until september 9th. just logistically, does the hurricane we're talking about so much tonight hinder what you're calling for? >> well, steve, two things. wen, of course members who are affected by the hurricanes and florida or north carolina, they don't have to come. let's call congress in session tomorrow, begin the debates. we can postpone the votes for a couple days, but second, with due respect, we don't need more hearings in the judiciary committee. i don't think there's a person in this country who thinking we

need more hearings and debate. these bills have been written what we need is more urgency and more courage. i would just bring these bills up for a vote, straight on the house, you can do that. you judiciary committee could waive the judds, and this coming week, let's have votes on ten different pieces, let's know where every single member stands so the public can decide. >> have you had any contact with speaker pelosi? anybody on their staff about this? >> i sent speaker pelosi a text and have been in communication with people on her staff. i think this is a moment where she could really answer the nation's called, speak to people's anger, frustration. people are scared. they don't understand what's happening to our country. this is not supposed to happen in the united states of america. this is why you get into public office. we need to do somebody, and

assure people were going to act. >> just quickly, what do you think of the politics of this? unfortunately these mass casualty situations have been, if not common, they have been a regular occurrence. i remember after sane hook, 2012, there was a push back then for background checks. the polls certainty suggested that the public was on board. there was talk of -- nobody who had stopped it in 2013 was defeated in 2014. do you think the politics have changed since then? >> i do. you have mike turner, the congress person affected by dayton. the governor of ohio, mike dewine, who has come out for some laws. unfortunately they're changing obvious in xhuchbts that have faced these mass shootings. we shouldn't have more of these

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welcome back. we continue to keep a close eye on dorian tonight. it hit the abaco island today. maximum sustained winds were 185, with gusts it 220. that tied the atlantic landfall hurricane record set with the labor day storm set back in 1935. ed rappaport joins me now from miami. we'll get you new update shortly this evening. doi expecting in surprises? tweaks? >> no surprises expected, but

certainly it's a terrible night and has been a horrible day in the bahamas. unofficially reports. that's what we feared. unfortunately the catastrophic conditions will continue because it's such a slow moving storm. unfortunately a prolonged period of activity of really intense weather and storm surge, up to 20 feet. it will delay any kind of recovery or relief that the area will get. >> i know we don't like to focus on the central like, but two of the hurricanes-specific model, have it landle near the space center. is that why you still have the cone on the east coast? >> you know, that's right the

forecast tracking, and here's the storm, about 150 miles offshoaf, very slow motion, as you said, we have a forecast now that takes it just off the coast. of course that's close enough to the coast that means that the winds, which you can see extend out here, could very well clip the coast tropical storm conditions, and then hurricane conditionsed farther north. the greatest killer for hurricanes is the storm surge. this is where we have now a storm surge warning just south of palm beach, florida, northward with an inundation of 4 to 7 feet possible. hopefully the storm doesn't come any closer, but that's what's causing the loss of life that's so of the now in the northwestern bahamas. that's our fear for the florida east coast. even with the center remaining offshore, to have a

life-threatening storm surge. >> ed rappaport, we thank you and your staff for the tireless work you have done so far. i know what you'll be doing the next four to five days, putting your lives on hold to give us the best information. we appreciate it. >> thank you. we have to continue to monitor all the way up the coast. all indications are it could be a hurricane the entire time. so, again, tonight into tomorrow, just more destruction on top of more destruction throughout the freeport area and grand bahama as the storm leaves the marsh harbour. the big question is when you wake up tomorrow morning, i'm watching freeport closely. the center is supposed to be

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looked lie joe biden's lead over the rest of the democratic field had evaporated. remember this? it was a monmouth poll released last monday a series of other polls had biden maintaining his lead. even monmouth polling director conceded that the polling was an outlier, so he does appear to be holding on to his front-runner status. this week he was forced to defend a story about a trip to a war zone that "the washington post" reports was riddled with inaccuracies. at one point biden seemed to undercut one of his central arguments of his campaign. >> i think there's other people in the race who can beat trump.

>> who? >> well, i -- i think almost anybody. they would all mall make a better president than trump. joining me now, republican strategist and msnbc political annualist, susan del percent i don't. and m noah rothman and maria hinojosa. the monmouth poll comes out. it was panic central for the biden campaign, at least a conversation, but why don't we put this up. this is the real clear politics average. if you take everything out there, this is what the race looks like. it's look like this for a while form at the start of the summer, biden was right around there. at the end of the summer, i think there's two ways of looking at it.

if you look at past front-runners, it's not that impose. he's about a ten-point lead. on the other hand he's been pretty durable. >> i've been doing reporting just over the past several days specifically about biden. i've said this before, i live in harlem, and the black vote, as you know will be key, and biden's name continuing to come up. you have to say, i'm not talking do 20-somethings, mostly middle-aged people who are professionals, working, voters. they continue to come back to biden. what is it about him? there's a lot of stability. . you have to think about the fact for people of color, this administration has been really challenging. they've been feeling this strait-up, as we say in spanish, on their own skin. so for them it becomes a

pragmatic decision. >> is it electability. >> i think there's electability at the top. it's being met with we like what he's doing, we like what he's say, we like what we see. we like the humanity. we're exhausted. i think there's that element. we're just exhausted and we want somebody who we think can take him on. is he their favorite, favorite candidate? some of them say yes, but others say he's my guy. >> it's interesting, too, noah, but joe biden's first presidential campaign, it was the question of plagiarism, he delivered a closing statement that ended up being lifted from a british politician. he had inflated his academic resume. you had this fact check from "the washington post" this week that brought back some memories of that, i think. i wonder in the atmosphere of 2019, versus the add moss fear

of anytime before that, does it just land differently now? >> it does. >> invariably for my conserve tv friends, and i agree with them, we should look at them as isolated events, this is mendacity to service of somebody's ego. at the same time trump's very existence almost renders that almost moot. it is frustrating for those who think we should apply these standards universally, but i think it won't matter. his habit of mendacity won't affect him unless it's something that appears to be trump-esque. >> can i ask, one other way of looking at this particular aneck dote. ronald reagan, you know, he told a tearjerker of a story, about a

plane that was going down and the tail gunner was pinned, and everybody was parachuting, the pilot looked and saw the tail gunner, and said, you know what? we'll ride it done together. it ournd not congressional medal of honor like that had ever been -- reagan gop away with that, because people thought the story had a good intent behind it. >> he also didn't have to run in this environment of social media, a lot of people 24-hour news cycle. let's not forget this story on biden was from a reporter who went through everything and fact checked the story. the issue i don't want to compare it to ronald reagan, nor do i want to compare it to donald trump, because i don't think it's the trump thing that's worth comparing. he's running in a primary. what i have seen from his campaign, whether it's not knowing how to handle the hug

story, which i didn't think was a problem to this, which in itself i don't think it a problem, but threw in a few bad debates, throw in this isn't the -- there's a cumulative effect this is taking. the fact that his numbers don't grow, yet we see a surge room for a surge like elizabeth warening, that should concern the campaign. i get it. if i'm them, that's their only strategy they have to offer, but it doesn't mean other people aren't going to try to win their primary. you're not comparing it to donald trump. you're comparing it to maybe five or six others. >> the reason it matters is it puts him on defense. there was a fascinating moment, maybe with you, but there was a member of joe biden's campaign staff addressing the central weakness of his competitors and the progressive left. your support is composed of

affluent, i had indicated whites. nobody can win this nomination without the support of african-american voters. we have that, you do not. coming from a position of strength, that's very interesting. >> you know, i think -- i also did some reporting about this. there is something very different in terms of intent. so when joe biden makes these gaff, i don't think anyone watching politics like to see that, because it's like, oh, my god, because you just kind of put your head down. for others i don't think it's playing that way. there hasn't been a lot of growth, but there's a stability there, and i said this before -- they kind of seem like that's grandpa joe. that's grandspa joe. >> but if you're at 28%, and that fields narrows, there's room -- >> let me ask this question in

the little time we have left. if it's not going to be biden, who do you think is best positioned to supplant him? >> it depends. right now it looks like it would be elizabeth warren. she has momentum. she's been growing her campaign. she didn't think she was oied a thing. he didn't have a base to start with. that's not to say if biden took a fall, there wouldn't be a more moderate person, room for someone else to come in and fill that space. we're going to see a change in voter turnout. you're not going to need the 15i78 numbers you needed in 2016 as you did in 2020, because 2018 told us. >> noah? >> it's a moot issue until they dish this line they've been sharing. this to me is weird conseat. >> warren, sanders, whoever win

that is weird battle, who would you say it is? >> i actually think it's biden. the question for me is, who is his vp? who will be the vp who's going to bring a tremendous amount of energy. it's not like i'm saying this. it's just what i'm getting from the ground. i would say -- >> you think it's a very strong 29%. >> i do. i do. just from the ground, from what i'm feeling. biden himself says this. it's not like everybody is loving him -- >> his wife said you don't have to like him. >> we can see this. we can see a matchup, so who is the vp? >> thank you all very much for being with us. more "kasie dc" after a short break. back then, we checked our smartphones

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earlier tonight we told you about 17-month-old anderson davis. she was among the 22 people wounded during the mass shooting in odessa, texas. miguel spoke to her father just moments ago. >> the second i heard the shots it was at our vehicle and then i feel like i could hear some trailing shots. as soon as i heard the shots i saw a blur, i feel. >> didn't notice anything? >> no, no. not at all. >> just scarey, though, too because you don't know if

somebody shooting from the restaurant, the bar of the restaurant? what's going on? >> and you can catch much more of that tomorrow morning on the today show and here on msnbc. last look now with bill. what do you got? >> steve, freeport is starting to get into the heart of the storm. wind gusts and eventually tonight the hurricane will move in. that will be the next area that will see the destruction of a category five hurricane. one of the strongest storms we've recorded in our history. it's really incredible that this big of a storm is only 200 miles away from miami right now. and tomorrow we will see some of this beginning to inch itself towards the coastal areas. right now still 185 miles an hour winds. tomorrow it will be close to start tracking it, steve, on radar. it will be a close call for our

friends in florida. >> thank you for that. that will do it for us on kasie d.c. we will be back with you next week. up next a marathon of "american swamp." for now, good night from new york. a total amount of money spent in terms, $1.3 billion. >> so super pacs, 501(c)4s. >> florida $90 million. missouri $76. arizona, $66 million. >> but, see, when i look at this, and maybe i'm idealistic. i think that money could be spent in better ways. that money could fund schools, hospitals. >> at the end of the day, do you know where all that money ends up? right there.