elizabeth trump appeals to a demographic president trump does. the president is in a trough. he's never been above 50% approval rating. those are big warning signs. for the president to say i can issue main tweets to make the candidates go away is very ill fated. >> gentlemen, thank you both. that wraps up this hour of "msnbc live." "andrea mitchell reports" start right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports." path of destruction. much of the bahamas underwater after two days of relentless record setting winds and rain. now dorian is moving dangerously close to the atlantic coast. >> our priority at this time is search, rescue, and recovery. under the gun. the nation's largest retailer bowing to public outcries following a summer of mass

shootings as pressure mounts on senate majority leader mitch mcconnell to do something when congress returns next week. and union jacked. britain's new prime minister loses his majority over his pro brexit stance. even as public opinion begins to turn against his insistence on leaving the e.u. by halloween. >> as the right honorable gentleman knows very well, you don't negotiate in public. and we are making substantial progress. >> order. and good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. we're following hurricane dorian now, heading for the florida coastline, georgia and the carolinas. they're bracing for the storm to hit in the coming hours there with destructive winds and life threatening storm surges. there are tropical or storm

surge warnings from florida to hampton, virginia. dorian has decimated large part of the bahamas, especially abaco island where relief efforts are underway. joining me now al roker and nbc's julia bagg in daytona beach. julia, first to you, the storm heading for the florida coastline. what are people doing right now? >> reporter: and let me just show you how the waves have been smashing into the coast here, just in a matter of a few moments. they can come up pretty quickly here. people are out here as you can see taking pictures. this beach technically closed but it's a sight that's hard to resist. and so really something to behold, even with dorian offshore just how much fury, how much force this storm has. we've been talking to people who live around here who know what it's like to experience something like this. top, thank you so much for

joining us. you live here. what do you think when you see dorian, how close a call this has been? >> it had me on edge for a little bit. these things are so unpredictable. you can't tell. we have a history of storms coming right up to us and then turning at the last moment. that sometimes can add to complacency. i'm amazed the town prepped this time. >> reporter: we watched this storm for so long. finally we're seeing the effects now when you look out onto those waves you see them coming up here. we're trying to -- >> it took a while to get here, that's for sure. they had it on mosey mode. but it gave people extra time, i guess. >> reporter: it sure did. thank you so much for speaking with us. i want to show you, andrea, the impacts. we were able to walk out here just a short while ago. a little bit more. but now, again, with the approaching high tide, which hits around 12:30 and dorian just off our coast, this is what

happens here.. i've been checking in with police, i spoke to an officer, we're not seeing damage in the inland parts. this was the area that was evacuated here and you can see while. daytona beach famous because you can drive on this beach. right now, the ocean working to swallow up a great deal of it and speaking with emergency managers, beach erosion is a concern here. they had a crew out here checking how things were. it's something they're going to have to deal with once the storm passes. andrea s and andr andrea. >> thanks to you, thank to tom. things on mosey mode and now it sure isn't. let's turn to al roker with more on dorian's path. what are you predicting? >> here's the deal, andrea. i want people to understand that even though this is down to a category 2 storm, it's kind of a give and take here. so there's a little less -- the winds are a little lower, but

not by a lot. still we're talking 100 mile per hour winds plus. but the scope of the size of the winds have increased. the hurricane loses some strength the winds spread out 175 miles from the center. we have had tornado watches, tornado warnings up for st. augustine. that's a problem with these systems as they approach the coast. you can see tornados. and so later on, we've got a risk of severe weather going on from just east of savannah up to myrtle beach this evening. we could see tropical tornados. they basically are quick to spoon up, they move by quickly and they're rain wrapped so they're hard to see. right now we have tropical gusts for jacksonville, daytona beach, titusville and melbourne. savannah seeing the winds pick up as well. this is the latest from the national hurricane center. a category 2 storm, 195 miles

south of charleston, south carolina. 105 mile per winds moving at 9 miles per hour. not fast by hurricane standards. we have watchings and warnings stretching from florida up into virginia. hurricane warnings from north of melbourne to cape hatteras. tropical storm watches for virginia and tropical storm warning back into northeastern florida. here's what we expect as far as the track is concerned. it's starting to move a little bit closer in some of the models to the north carolina coast. by friday morning, between wilmington and cape hatteras. let's show you the other two models. the american model and the european model. the european model makes possible landfall sometime friday morning just south of wilmington and then later on into cape hatteras. we'll be watching that very, very closely. here's what we see as far as individual impacts. today, jacksonville, 30 to 60

mile per hour winds. storm surge of three to five feet. this is tropical storm force wind field. as we move into thursday morning, look at charleston. look how far inland the tropical force winds could go. storm surge of four to seven feet. rainfall of 8 to 10 inches. 55 to 85 mile per hour, a storm surge of 4 to 7 feet and rainfall of 6 to 15 inches. norfolk, we think that's going to have issues as well as we move into friday afternoon. they're going to see, again, you've got the hampton bays area, i think storm surge is going to be an issue as well. here's what we look at the storm surge potentially, you can see with the high tides 1:15 this morning and it continues into cape hatteras by 12:32 in the

early morning tomorrow morning. rainfall amounts upward of 15 inches. the other issue is going to be power outages. >> from west palm beach, daytona beach, jacksonville, spread to scattered. look once we get into coastal georgia, south carolina, and north carolina. we're talking about widespread to extensive power outages. and even as you get inland, raleigh, you may be looking in the raleigh area at power outages around. widespread power outages into virginia as we virginia as well. even though it's a category 2 there can be extensive damage. i tell you what, andrea, i think anybody along this cone from georgia right on into north carolina and up into virginia has to be concerned about this system. andrea? >> al roker, thank you. al, from your reporting today, this storm could have much larger inland impacts than what we'd seen yesterday.

this model is shifting potentially. thank you so much. >> you bet. >> it's going to be a tough night along that coast. we're learning more about the dire situation in the bahamas after hurricane dorian dumped 40 inches of rain, 185 mile per hour winds at the max over that country for 40 continuous hours. at least seven people have been killed so far as far as we know. the red cross is estimating more than 13,000 homes were damaged or destroyed. 62,000 people on the abaco islands and grand bahamas do not have access to fresh drinking water. i'm joined by the founder and ceo of bahamas evac services, an air ambulance company assisting in rescue operations in the bahamas. tell us how extensive is the damage and what are you learning about possible casualties? >> yes. we have definitely -- obviously there's a tremendous amount of damage and we're currently

assessing. the priority is search and rescue and getting immediate emergency supplies to people who need it. there's significant -- the weather has been decreasing significantly. we've been coordinating with the bahamas civil aviation and all the emergency authorities here. everybody's been doing an amazing job as far as that goes. the problem is we have a lot of private and commercial aircraft that are standing by to assist, however, everybody is pmaking te assessment of the runways to insure we can do those flights safely. as you probably are aware, those areas are not -- they do not have an operational air traffic control center, so we're trying to develop a system where we can safely execute those flights getting emergency supplies in and people out. there's significant road

blockenibloc blockages to those airports. we're working with everybody and trying to get clearance for that as well. one of the issues we're having is people on the ground, there is a lack of water and food. there's a lot of children down there as well. we're trying to get supplies in as much as we can. we're trying to get people to have access to medical helicopters in nassau so we can get approval for them to assist us in getting more and more people that are hurt out. so, you know, they can definitely reach out to us here and we'll coordinate that with the government officials as well. so like i said, it's just an ongoing program and we're doing the best we can. >> it's extraordinary just looking at these aerials while we're talking, is there a way that helicopters can drop food and water? and can helicopters land where

fixed wing aircraft can't? >> absolutely. absolutely. like i said, we're trying to coordinate that safely with bahamas civil aviation and also the u.s. coast guard that's been doing an amazing job on this end as well. like i said, that is the most viable way to reach the really bad affected areas right now. like i said there's a lot of fixed wing aircrafts standing by ready to go in but we're trying to coordinate with all the air traffic personnel to make sure we can do that safely. >> thank you so much for what you're doing. thanks for checking in with us. thank you -- i mean, just the pictures are just extraordinary. nbc's morgan chesky is outside a hospital in the bahamas where many are being treated. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: we're in nassau just outside the hospital where so many of those patients from

abaco island have been brought, suffering from injuries sustained during hurricane dorian. for the first time today we're really starting to see those rescue and relief efforts begin in earnest. we do know a team of military helicopters went back and forth all day yesterday bringing those who needed medical treatment the most here to nassau. but with air strips starting to get cleared off in abaco island and in grand bahama. multiple agencies are poised to start getting the supplies to those people who need it most. celebrity chef jose andres handed out 2,000 sandwiches last night. people here in the bahamas are certainly going to need it. we know that as it stands the early numbers are simply staggering. 60% around that number of buildings on grand bahama and abaco island are damages and

destroyed. 60,000 people are still without access to clean drinking water. that's going to be one of the most desperate things that can hopefully get taken care of as the relief efforts get plugged in. a sad note from the prime minister last night who upped the death toll from five people to seven. saying the two individuals that were brought to this hospital succumbed to their injuries. and in following that by saying he expects that number to go up throughout the day and in the days ahead. because we really don't know yet the true devastation that dorian has brought this chain of islands simply because it's still so inaccessible in a lot of those places. i spoke to a relief worker who flew over abaco island yesterday and he says portions of it were unrecognizable. they couldn't put their plane down because there was no place to do so. at this point in time, we're starting to see help arrive and it couldn't come soon enough for the bahamian people.

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president trump is doing an end run around congress, which has refused to appropriate money to build the wall. he's taking $2.6 million from the budget and using it to start building the controversial border wall. democrats are furious. starting with house speaker nancy pelosi who says canceling military construction projects at home and abroad and -- i'm clearly losing my voice. phil rutger joins me now to talk about this. phil, let's talk about the wall. ben rhodes is joining us from los angeles as well. phil, first to you. talk about moving these appropriated funds, pelosi is speaking out about it. this is a looming confrontation but he says he's got the authority. >> that's right. it's back to the government

shutdown at the beginning of the year and the president declared that national emergency in mid february. this is an outgrowth of that. he's trying to find the money to build this wall which congress has refused to appropriate, the democrats in the house have refused that. he's pulling this money away from military construction projects domestically and abroad. he's facing a lot of backlash from congressional democrats who say not only is this a misappropriatation of the funds but it's an end run around congress. it violates their constitutional authority with the power of the purse. >> the former deputy national security advisor, does he have the authority? president obama used executive actions frequently when you were in the white house. why can't he do this? >> well, because, it gets to a core power of congress, the power to appropriate and decide how money is spent. we engaged in executive action on things like, you know, regulation and rules that govern certain parts of national

policy. the idea that we could say to congress what we don't like that you won't spend money on our priority, therefore we're going to take money from the military budget and spend it on the aca, the affordable care act. we're going to take money from the military budget and spend it on climate change. that would have prompted an absolute revolution from republicans in congress who often talked about the need to respect the power of the institution. this is a profound extra constitutional power grab by trump. he's essentially saying i'm going to invalidate one of the most important powers of congress, which is is how to allocate funds. he couldn't get the money. keep in mind, remember, mexico was going to pay for it. let's put that aside for the moment. he couldn't get the money from the congress so he's taking money from one piece of the pentagon budget and moving it over to fund this.

i think it should be alarm bells going off by a president who doesn't like the inconvenience of democracy. >> president trump's immigration efforts have failed since day one. today he made it clear he's willing to take funds from our troops and disaster victims and divert them to protect his political right flank. that could put americans at risk. this is political in that he wants to be able to say he's met his prime campaign promise to build that wall. regardless of the fact as ben points out that mexico is never going to spend a dime on this. >> the wall is so central to trump's promise to voters in 2016. it's key to his reelection prospects in 2020. if he does not begin construction of new wall -- this is not just replacing fencing that existed beforehand, but new wall he's going to look weak. he's going to look like he could not deliver on this promise. he has not been able to secure the funding through the

congress. that's why he's doing this. that's why he's trying to reallocate these funds. that's all so he can have a project. something that's built down there, he can have a ribbon cutting and tell his supporters he followed through on that pledge. it's why, you know, senator chuck schumer and other democrats are saying this is an ego trip for the president. it's really not in the name of border security. it's in the name of giving him a trophy. >> meanwhile, this standoff is taking place here, speaking of ego trips, just moments ago in london british lawmakers -- while you guys stay, i'm going to ask you as well -- they attempted to block a no deal brexit and it has cleared its first big hurdle in the house of commons. huge setback for the prime minister boris johnson who lost his majority yesterday, losing 21 tories who he exiled from the party. matt bradley is covering this from london. matt, please sort through this mess, really, in parliament over

brexit. >> reporter: yeah, you know, andrea, this is about an interesting as the british parliament gets. i know that sounds like i'm setting the bar really low. it has been a really fascinating last 24 hours. now, what just happened now is that parliamentarians approved a bill that would let the prime minister go to the european union and request a delay, maybe until the end of july in that deadline to leave the european union, brexit as it's known. what this tells the prime minister that he has to go back to brussels and demand this delay unless mp 's can come to a resolution by october 31st. it's been the subject of a lot of macabre jokes in london. boris johnson is going to try to bring a vote to have a new election. that's seen by many in the "new

york post" -- most conservative circles as the only way to get out of the impasse. it looks as though boris johnson has been pushing a no deal brexit. that would mean that the uk charged out of the e.u. with no deal at all with the european union. boris johnson has been really trying to railroad that through parliament. it's a major road block in the way. if they call a new election before the october 31st deadline it could be a major obstacle for boris johnson's plan which seems to be a no deal brexit. for many economists they see that as aa catastrophe. because it would leave a giant hole for anything that britain has with the european union as it stands. for a lot of people this would be an abrupt economic change that could create a disaster for

the british economy. andrea? >> it could crater the economy. i want to give all of us the flavor back here, matt, of this question time today. let's play a little bit of the tape. >> what is the slogan? what do we want? what did he want? dither and delay? when do we want it? we don't know. that's his policy. >> if the prime minister thinks he's made progress, will he publish those proposals that he's put forward to replace the back stop? >> prime minister. >> as the right honorable gentleman knows very well you don't negotiate in public and we are making substantial progress. and we will get past the vote. >> so, matt, the new prime minister is already facing the same kind of dissension in parliament only days after he's taken over, really. he's facing the same problems

that theresa may faced. >> reporter: that was what theresa may was saying as she was walking out the door of 10 downing street. it was the subtext there. if you think that you can get a better deal for brexit than go ahead and try. theresa may, as you remember, had been trying for years. trying to bring this rowdy and as you saw very boisterous legislative body to terms. she failed multiple times. this would be the third time the prime minister has gone to the parliament and tried to present some kind of deal for leaving the e.u. so far, it hasn't worked. it doesn't necessarily look like boris johnson is going to succeed with a deal either, which is why he's leaning so hard on the no deal brexit. one that would abruptly lurch the uk out of the european union and what for many economists would spell disaster. andrea? >> matt bradley at westminster. phil rutger, this, of course,

boris johnson, is the favorite of president trump. he, you know, really taunted theresa may at times in their meeting about how boris could do it better, i could have done it better. take my advice. the basic fact that brexit is a mess. this referendum not well fought through. >> yeah. >> playing to the anti-european emotions and anti-migration and immigrant emotions and trade policies. and not thinking through the next steps as to how are tariffs and customs going to work. >> it's a mess and an internal debate in the uk but one that president trump has inserted himself in. he's pursued a one-on-one bilateral trade deal between the

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there's been a major development in the gun debate, walmart, america's largest retailer is stopping sales of ammunition while discouraging customers from openly carrying firearms. the move comes days after a mass shooting in odessa, texas, that killed seven people and follows the back to back shootings last month. one of them at a walmart store in el paso that killed 22 people. the nra immediately slammed walmart's decision saying it's shameful to see walmart succumb to the pressure of the anti-gun elites.

lines at walmart will soon be replaced by lines at other retailers who are more supportive of america's fundamental freedoms. another retailer, kroger is telling people not to carry their weapons into their stores, even in open carry states. and today "the washington post" has a full page editorial listing all of the victims of mass shootings since columbine back in 1999 headlined do something, mcconnell. joining me now is the founder of moms demand action, steve israel, author of the novel big guns, and rick tyler, former senior advisor to ted cruz and an msnbc political analyst. shannon, first to you. we've seen what the nra has to say. do you have any hope from your perspective that mitch mcconnell will do anything? he's said he's not going to move until he knows that the president is going to sign something. which some have said is turning the senate's power over to the

white house rather than having open debate and seeing whether there are the votes. >> a big part of the problem about politics in this country is that too many of our lawmakers have been beholden to the nra. we're starting to see that change. we are seeing companies now coming out in favor of gun safety. not just stopping carry in thei calling for things like a background check on every gun sale. they're doing that because their customers support it. you know, we are calling on congress to follow the lead of these companies and to do the right thing. and to pass a background check on every gun sale and stronger red flag laws which we know 90% of americans in 80% of gun owners support. it's time for the senate to do their job. if they think they can slow walk this, there will be hell to pay at the ballot box. >> and in fact, in terms of the politics of this, rick, how does mitch mcconnell have -- i don't

know. i don't know how to even describe when you say i'm not going to bring anything to the floor unless i know i have the votes. isn't that ceding power to the white house? >> in a sense it is. i'm not as you know, defending mitch mcconnell. but he's been burned by the president several times. when you work with the white house and members of your own party, there's -- senators don't want to take what some may consider a politically risky vote only to have the president veto -- >> is it politically risky now? as shannon was pointing out, the polling certainly indicates that -- and walmart and the decisions that walmart and kroger are taking indicate that there is public opinion, there's customer opinion behind expanding background checks. >> no question that walmart is heading down this road because they're following the lead of their customers. walmart's not going to act in some way that's inconsistent with their customers. they're in the retail business, they know their customers very very well. i think -- i'm a gun owner. i own lots of guns and lots of

different kinds of guns. i am for background checks. every legal sale of guns in the united states, the buyer should be -- the seller should be assured that i'm selling to someone who is qualified to own a firearm. i don't know anybody, any gun dealer who wants to sell a gun to someone who is mentally unstable, would use that gun in some illegal way. they don't want to do that. and those -- their ffls, they do a background check. the latest weapon i bought, it took 10, 15 minutes. it's not a major inconvenience. and so that could be done. private sales could be done through ffls. it would take 30 minutes of people's time. red flag laws are reasonable. there are lots of things to do that gun owners want to have done that are reasonable. why it's not moving forward, i don't know. i think the president is the one who is holding it up because he

is so back and forth on every issue, conflicting statements that mcconnell doesn't know what he's going to do. they could send him very low hanging fruit. background checks. red flag laws. had creasing domestic surveillance of people who are getting recruited to shoot. remember, the people who are recruited to shoot, the people recruiting, they do not care about the idealogy. they'll latch onto anything. just go and kill people. that's what they want. you can imagine state and non-state actors recruiting people, much in the way gangs get recruited. that's something we could do today that i think everybody would agree on. get moving on it. >> steve israel, what about the politics of this given that more people are concerned about background checks? the house passed legislation on background checks back in february. it's been sitting over at the senate. the shooter -- the alleged shooter in odessa apparently

bought privately his weapon because he was trying to get around a background check because of his history of mental health. he couldn't have passed a background check. >> that's exactly right. let me take you inside this process to answer the question of how does politics influence members of congress and senators. look, i sat on the house appropriations committee where we offered amendments for strengthened background checks, amendments for no fly t no buy. amendments to allow the cdc to study the impact of gun violence on public health. those amendments were routinely defeated by republicans on the committee. and here's what i found frustrating and fascinating at the same time. we walk out of those committee hearing rooms, we go into the members only elevator. the doors would slide closed and i would say to those republicans why would you vote against this? 85% of your constituents support strengthened background checks. 85% to 90% of your constituents

support no buy, no fly. the response was i wish i could have voted yes but i'd get a republican primary. nothing is as intense in republican primaries as the gun issue. these members of congress, many of them, put their idealogy, but also their political survival ahead of the survival of their constituents. that's got to end. >> shannon, what is your strategy now as an activist on this? do you think the nra has been weaken weaken weakened to persuade lawmakers that the better political choice is to support expanding background check and closing the loopholes? >> we've spent over six and a half years shining a spotlight on how insidious the gun lobby has been, both at the state and federal level. and so we are working to make sure the people understand what their agenda is, especially lawmakers. we have to loosen the stranglehold they've had on

lawmakers one finger at a time. the nra is weaker than they've ever been. we're stronger than we've ever been. honestly, if the senate doesn't act and doesn't do what 90% of its constituents are asking them to do, there will be consequences. that's either charcnging out thr jobs or making sure we hold them accountable. we'll have rallies, we're going to call them. we're never giving up until we have sensible gun laws in this country. >> rick, i'm curious what is the grip of the nra. is it campaign money? >> i think the largest thing it has been. there are millions of legal gun owners, i'm one of them, in the united states. we want reasonable -- we don't want anybody owning a gun who haven't. the nra has gone -- i remembered when i was a boy at seven years old. i went to a ymca camp and i was

taught the fundamental of shooting, it was called safety. >> but now they seem to be representing the gun manufacturers, not the gun owners, who are in favor -- >> clearly it's been money, right? because it's been a cash cow and they're not using -- they cut their budget on gun safety. and they have every right to get involved in the political game as anybody else does. they've changed. they're not the same nra i grew up with that taught young people, mostly men at that time, but women are very good shooters, that respect guns and respect life. and those things have got to go hand in hand. we have to balance out. i said this before we have to balance out the right to keep and bear arms with the right to keep and bear children. that's what's happening today. people's kids are getting shot through no fault of their own. it's despicable. >> rick tyler, steve israel, and

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joe biden is defending the con exfolia details he told on a campaign trail of his heroic young soldier. >> i was making a point about a generation. that has nothing to do with the judgment of whether or not you send troops to war. >> not judgment but details. that's something i heard from voters. >> the details are irrelevant in terms of decision making. >> in saying details are irrelevant and biden commits a gap to explain a gap. he's taking fire from bernie sanders. now to jonathan capark.

>> jonathan, you interviewed joe biden on this subject. did he make it worse or do the voters get it? >> i think it is the ladder. i think voters have baked this in. when it comes to this specific example, the other problem of us and the press, we don't share the full context of what he said so the conversation now particularly senator sanders press release is feeding into the narrative that joe biden is gap prone. when you understand it in the full context is, it is not a gap. it fits in neatly with the narrative out there about him. >> the detailed explanation was

that the soldier who actually did resoceive the medal or did y those things to joe biden, i got it, he connected with me. >> it is not only extra credcri joe biden is gap prone. one of the interesting things this time is maybe it is a trump effect that has not caused an erosion. he's been steady in the polls to the surprise of many of us, despite a series of questions about his language. >> are you surprised other of you that bernie sanders are going after him, a week before the debate when they're on the stage together. >> i think he's going to be more combative. >> elizabeth warren is coming up and warren is going to be on stage face-to-face with biden for the first time. >> i agree with you on that.

>> because of gas intended or not intended, it goes to the number one point when you talk to democrats, the number one thing they want to do is defeat trump. the person that they think will do that is vice president biden. all things they put aside for the one notion that they think he's the guy to be. >> does president trump's statement intentional add other wise, does that provide some body armour. does it make it better for biden? trump's supporters accepted the idea or does it make it worse for joe biden because democrats want to have a real contrast with donald trump on every front. when they look at the possibility or when they think about who can win, they look at the possibility of the fall debate of a year from now. the two presidential debates. how would biden fair standing n

next to donald trump? >> the fact is joe biden, the counter argument would be joe biden when he makes gaps or mistakes, it is not intentionally lying. sometimes he exaggerates and puts himself at the center of the story. it is detention than a deliberate law. >> right. other reports when reporters have talked to people about vice president or his gasp mista mistakeme mistakement, we know his heart is in the right place. the president is speaking right now. >> an update on the hurricane, we got lucky in florida, lucky indeed. we had our original chart was going to be hitting florida directly. it was going to be hitting

directly and it would affected other states but that was the original chart and you see it was going to hit not only florida but georgia. it was going towards the gulf. that was what was originally projected. it took a right turn and ultimately and hopefully we'll be lucky and depends on what happens with south carolina and north carolina. it is heading up the coast and florida. we'll have a report on that. we have been sending the united states coast guards who have been incredible. they're on the bahamas right now. they're helping with the bahamas. the bahamas was a big section that was hit like a few people have seen before. we are helping in a humanitarian way. we have been asked to help by the government of the bahamas.

we have helicopters and sending people to give them a hand, they need a big hand. what's going on over there is incredible. few people have seen anything like that. what i must tell you over the years, there has been some hurricanes that were bigger and stronger and more powerful. i just may be like to start, kevin if you can say a few words of where we are and we'll talk about what you are doing in the bahamas and we'll get back to south carolina and north carolina and what we expect, okay? thank you, kevin. >> we have administrator on the line as well. he's been in florida and now he's in georgia right now, touching base on emergency managers with all the states that's in the path of dorian. dorian remains a category two. a powerful and large storm. we are worried the significant impact to south carolina to charleston and wilmington and

triple threats, hurricane force winds, a tropical storm forest and as well as storm surge. a significant rain event up to 10 inches or more in parts of the carolina. we have been well prepared and coordinated with the states. we are repositioning some of the assets further south and central florida. we are ready for the storm. fema and other partners supporting the state. we are on our toes looking forward to responding effectively. >> that's great. >> we would also say we were well-prepared in puerto rico. we got lucky where we missed it quite a bit actually. we were ready just in case and tremendous supplies. people and a lot of things going on in puerto rico. they were happy it worked out very