saying he's siding with the uk. this is just a mess. clearly the administration hasn't really thought in a very nuanced way about how they're going to approach it. >> i thought it was the hair. my thanks to karine, john, eli and basil. "mtp daily" with my friend chuck todd starts now. well, if it's wednesday, it's democracy in the age of disruption. what parliament's revolt against britain's leader and hong kong's revolt against china leader means for our dear leader. plus the president is taking money from the military to fund his border wall. democrats say it's an illegal power grab. so what are they going to do about it? and take five. you can add a fifth texan to the list of republicans calling it quits and it's adding a new word

to our lex con, texadus. i am chuck todd here in new york city. in britain it was parliament that said enough. in hong kong it was the people. and now we're left wondering if those are omens for the trump presidency or not. 21 conservatives went rogue on their leader yesterday, boris johnson, over his attempts to sideline parliament on brexit. today parliament defied him in a vote to delay brexit. these conservative leaders risked their careers to defy their leader and set in motion a process that could remove boris johnson from power. that's quite the contrast of how the conservative members of congress here have been unwilling to buck mr. trump. many of them if they want to buck him, they retire. see the texadus story. but senate majority leader mitch mcconnell won't even move on gun measures without things being blessed by trump first. another gop retirement reminds us in many cases republicans

would rather leave than fight this president. that's seemingly how republicans revolt against trump. they don't stand up, they sit down. then there's hong kong where millions of people stood up to what they saw as an anti-democratic power grab, eventually winning key concessions from the chinese government but the people still wanting more. you can see maybe where i'm going here. president trump has called himself mr. brexit and boris johnson president trump. parliament's revolt against one leader and the people's revolt in hong kong against another make you wonder what happens here? let's face it, a big part of that question comes down to how do the democrats look at all of this. joining me here on set, beth fouhy, zerlina maxwell and elise jordan. so i start with this because was

election was this moment, okay, was this a disruption going on in western democracies. now, part of this has to do with how do you still view the 2016 election. do you view it as an election that was hijacked and stolen or do people view it as a singular important moment in the history of this democracy? >> wow. that's a heavy place to start the show. look, i don't think we know the answer to that yet. historians will look back and tell us. it's a bit of both. brexit was the canary in the coal mine for this president. people were shocked that it happened but the same forces at work then, people frustrated with globalism, people frustrated with the notion that those elected into office were not listening to the people, it was clear looking -- now looking at what happened in england that we were on a similar track. >> there was something happening. >> remember trump was there in scotland the next day. he basically said, look, i predicted this all along. i don't know if he did.

but he hinted that what was going on and what he was detecting as the republican candidate for president is what's likely happening here and it turned out to be correct. >> zerlina, one of the reasons i wanted to connect these dots today. and it's possible they just draw a line between two dots. but it does feel like in this age of disruption, okay, we're a country whose politics trump was one steam valve. but we haven't let the steam valve out on the gun issue or the immigration issue. it feels like we're due for a moment. i don't know when it is and how it is and what it looks like, but we might be there too. >> i think the moment started the day after donald trump was sworn into office. we forget that the day after donald trump was sworn into office, millions of people marched, it was the largest march in the history of the country. >> how many of those people didn't vote in the election? >> certainly a very important question. the day i was at the women's march that was my thought. i wish these people had come out

in november instead of today. but we're here now. what we saw in 2018 is the action and activism that started the day after donald trump was sworn in did not end that day. those people went home, they organized, they signed up in their local communities, they signed up to run for something, they signed up for emily's list. they calls and found out how to get trained to run for office. >> and by the way, it worked. >> exactly. so what i'm saying is this is not a moment, it's actually an ongoing movement powered by actual people and large lly wom and women of color specifically who are looking at the status quo and saying i do not see myself or my concerns reflected in the leadership of this country. i can go change that. if donald trump can be the president of the united states, certainly i can run for congress or try to change my local community. i think more women are actually stepping up to the plate and that's actually the moment that we're seeing. it's still an ongoing moment. >> elise, let me tackle it from another perspective here which

is one from the right and that has to do with the mps that stood up to johnson and said, you know what, this is a mistake. let's not rush to this, this is a mistake. country before party. whatever that is, they decided country before party. why hasn't that been contagious? >> the simplistic argument would be, oh, they're more moral over there in the uk, they're just doing the right thing. i think, though, you're seeing what's happened in the aftermath of brexit in years now of ongoing political turmoil. and i am lucky enough to work with a british polling group, lord ashcroft polls and it's very interesting to talk to british pollsters about their political situation in contrast to us. they say brexit is forever. you have trump only for four years. but you also -- when we were looking during 2016 and going around to battleground states, they identified, because brexit had just happened. we were looking for patterns

that possibly would indicate a similar occurrence over here, and they pinpointed people are ready for change and they don't care if they don't know what the change is, they're willing to vote for radical change. they're willing to vote for something that they don't know about. now brexit is becoming a little clearer what the implications will be. how it will affect youth in britain, how it will affect their economy. over here, how many years into donald trump's presidency. we watch how he is literally tweeting and calls the markets by day and so perhaps republicans are starting to see they need to take a stand sometimes against his unhinged nature. >> i don't know if democrats have agreed upon what to learn from 2016. zerlina, would you accept that? i feel like biden and warren are two different versions of this.

warren is change. you've got to run on this. biden is this is chaotic. are you tired of it? what's the answer? >> personally i am more on the side of elizabeth warren. it's not a knock on joe biden, but simply the status quo or going back to what we had before donald trump was not good for certain constituencies. >> so you're saying disruption should be answered with new disruption. >> and policy plans to back that up. elizabeth warren isn't just saying i'm going to take on the banks and wall street, she's saying how she's going to do that, step by step by step, and also adding in i know mitch mcconnell exists and so there's even sort of an element to how i'm going to deal with that as well. that's an important piece of it because we're not living in a fantasy world. so i think in this particular moment, the elizabeth warren model is something i personally am more in alignment with because i do think think going back to pretrump was good for people of color. they were still getting killed by the police and we were

getting discriminated against and all of those things are still true. >> this ties into what you said earlier about the millions of people who marched on january 21st, 2017, and then we saw the gun march and there were some spurts of activism. ever since the 2018 election, we've seen nothing. nothing. >> you're not seeing it in the street. >> hong kong, everybody went to the street. one thing drove them into the streets. they were willing to face down tear gas, willing to face down violence to get to their goal. i sense that there is a numbness in this country where they watch that's going on and feel a little powerless and hopeless. that is what makes me wonder about what the end result will be in this election. is it disruption that you're describing that people want or get me out of feeling so numb. >> i do think that's true that certainly there isn't a large march that you can put a camera in front of and say this is people trying to create change.

the movement is happening online and social media as well. people are connecting. twitter activism gets a bad rap but it actually is connecting people to do things in the real world and i think that even though we're not seeing those large marches, it's not that people are not willing to go outside and get tear gassed. black lives matter did that for years and years and years before they get any credit about it. >> then there's the man who can't admit when he's wrong and has a sharpie. the absurdity of he can't even like say, yeah, i misspoke. no biggie, i misspoke. in fact let's go through this craziness, because this is why joe biden feels good every day. >> you showed us a map earlier and it appeared to have been edited or something to include alabama. can you explain how that change -- >> no, i just know -- i know that alabama was in the original

forecast. they thought it would get it as a piece of it. it was supposed to go -- actually we have a better map than that which is going to be presented where we had many lines going directly -- many models, each line being a model and they were going directly through. in all cases alabama was hit if not lightly in some cases pretty hard. georgia, alabama, it was a different route. they actually gave that a 95% chance probability. it turned out that that was not what happened. it made the right turn up the coast. but alabama was hit very hard and was going to be hit very hard along with georgia. but under the current they won't be. georgia will be possibly. we're going to see. we're right at that point right now. but i think georgia will be in great shape. everyone is going to be in great shape because we're going to take care of it regardless, regardless. but the original path was through florida. that was probably three days -- i think that's probably three or four days old. the original path that most people thought it was going to be taking as you know was right

through florida where on the right would have been georgia, alabama, et cetera. >> and that map that you showed us today looked like there was a sharpie. >> i don't know, i don't know. >> i think we have the maps, elise. he was so serious about this. here's the real map. this was the one that we think he's referring to. the cone of uncertainty doesn't even get to florbama. he missed alabama too. that's an official, i think, sharpie. not unofficial sharpie. >> when it's a sharpie, it's permanent. >> but this is the part where you're just like what did we disrupt? >> exactly. you get -- >> this is the disruption you want? >> you get president trump's ignorance and aub stin ans and his complete inability to tell the truth and his lack of basic

geograp geography. i think a 13-year-old that doctors their report card, their reports usually can do. they don't do that good of a job. i'm showing my age, the day we had handwritten report cards, but still. >> i remember a dumb third grade version of myself that tried to trace my dad's signature. >> this is the level that he's operating. he's not smooth and savvy enough to not tell absolutely ridiculous dumb lies. >> and this is the stories, beth, that on one hand feel absurd and on the other hand feel emblematic of the trump era. >> and there are these moments that certainly -- >> like why are we covering it so much and at the same time it tells you so much. >> but this goes back to the point i was making earlier. it renders people numb. they don't know how to respond. small and large that president trump does every day, if it was any other president would have created a huge firestorm.

people are like, eh, it's president trump. that's why i don't know where this is leading in terms of what's the next disruption. >> what does that mean, zerlina, to democrats. oh, that's just president trump. is this why biden is alive? he's not just alive in, some case he hovers over the field. >> look, i don't think that any democrats are waking up, oh, that's just trump. i don't care, these have life and death consequences. even though it's ridiculous and we're rolling our eyes because literally he made no sense there. he said georgia is not going to get hit, then they're going to get hit. he contradicts himself every sentence. >> and joe biden has a gaffe problem. >> tuouche. i don't think biden is in the lead because democrats are complacent. >> no, i take your point. >> i think he's in the lead because we have not elected anything except men who are white. barack obama is half white.

so i just think that we still have not elected a woman and we have to understand that that's still going to be a hard thing so people are going to biden because he seems a little safer at this moment. i'll put safer in quotes. >> thank you. beth, zerlina and elise, stick around. president trump is taking billions from military projects to fund the border wall and he's doing it without congressional approval. that's supposed to be a no-no. democrats have the majority in the house. what do they plan to do to push back on him? plus a fifth congressional republican from the lone star state is announcing his retirement. so texodus is getting serious in 2020 and we'll have a deep dive on that, later. 2020 and we'll have a deep dive on that, later orking harder. that's why, your cash automatically goes into a money market fund when you open a new account. and fidelity's rate is higher than e-trade's, td ameritrade's, even 10 times more than schwab's.

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to put $3.6 billion towards building the border wall that the president promised originally that mexico was going to pay for. that's not happening now. this is all part of u.s. taxpayer money. congressional democrats are condemning the move calling it a cash grab by the administration. they haven't said what they'll do in response. president trump defended the pentagon action calling it a matter of national security. >> when you have thousands of people trying to rush our country, i think that's thanks for joining us -- that's national security. he had very good conversations with very members of congress. >> with me is congresswoman madeline dean, a member of the house judiciary and financial services committee. congresswoman dean, welcome back to the show. >> thanks for having me, chuck. >> let me start directly with that. look, you guys went to court to try to stop this national emergency. he has -- it looks like he has the legal right to do this. if that's the case, what can

congress do? >> i believe, and we saw in statements by speaker pelosi, that we'll be in court defending against this grab. just think about it. it was a wall that is going to be completely ineffective against the problems that we do face at our border that are very real and the inhumane treatment of migrants, especially children there, as imposed by this administration. but to take $3.6 billion, insist that a wall be built by election day, in other words, abuse of his presidential power for political and personal gain. we'll be fighting him in court, i'm confident of that. >> i understand that, but i believe the court said his use of the national emergencies act here was in his purview, no? >> i do know back the decision a couple of months ago, yes. but in light of recent facts -- >> you think you can go back to court? >> i believe we have a strategy

to go back and to block it. >> there's another avenue that you have if you believe he's violated the constitution. >> i'm very eager to continue that. we're back in session on monday. we have important oversight and investigations to do, specifically in the area of impeachment. as i said, this is a political, personal move. imagine any other elected official saying do this, spend this money that was not allocated for these resources before election day to help my re-election. and actually what i think is strange is that it's a failed strategy. he has told people that go forward, don't worry about 'em negligent dou eminent domain, environmental problems or contract rights. i think he'll have people up in arms on the border when he tries to take personal, private property for his political gain to build a big black wall along 175 miles. it's ineffective, it's stupid,

it is -- >> i hear -- >> it's this administration. >> i guess i go back to what you just said, though. you're making a case that it violates the constitution. and you're not the only one. a lot of democrats have made this case. how is -- how is an article of impeachment not the next avenue if the courts are going to claim that he has this power? >> well, i think you saw that just before we went for district wor work that jerry nadler and our entire committee steered the ship in the direction of now impeachment investigations. so that we can put these facts before the american people and draft appropriate articles of impeachment. that's what we have had to. and you know, chuck, you've been watching it. we've been obstructed at every turn and we had to go go to court to authorize our subpoenas. >> right. i was just going to say while you still may have some obstruction issues, if you actually formalize yourself as an impeachment inquiry, you

become a grand jury and have a lot more power. so i guess the question is, where is the committee on that debate? >> you know what, i'll tell you when we get back. i don't think we feel that we lack any power. >> but you do. don mcgahn is not there. the point is -- i say this not -- i think if you have a white house not cooperating, you're leaving some power on the table i guess with the better way to put it. >> the very thing we've done is go into court to compel don mcgahn and used the language impeachment investigation. the court recognizes that language as signaling the dire need for a quick decision. so i look forward to a quick decision getting don mcgahn in front of us, lewandowski and other players in the important mueller report. i really want to remember what's going on here. this is a president who is in a panic. in some ways the walls are closing in on him and so he's

ordered his pentagon to do this $3.6 billion taking. this is taking away from 127 military construction projects, half here and half around the world. it will affect our cyber security, our drone security, our possible readiness. imagine that the president wants to do that for a vanity wall that will be ineffective, all the while, while he harms children. i hope you're looking at the reports, the dire reports -- >> you just read my mind. i was just about to ask you. this is the i.g. report from the health and human services inspector general. i assume that's what you're referring to. >> yes, i am. >> go, continue. >> well, it's heartbreaking. but we've been seeing it. we've had hearings on immigration in judiciary where it is very apparent that the administration has no idea how many children they have separated from their parents. literally they have no count. they don't know. we know the dire consequences, the lifelong consequences to children. in part of that report i read something that maybe adults don't think about.

when the child and parent are separated, the child's world is quite small. they know the comfort of their parent, of their family. they don't know the political process or the pawn or the evil, cruel nature of this administration using these children. so who do they believe? they believe horrible things. number one, that they were abandoned by their own parent. number two, they think their parent was killed or maybe they will be killed. think of that -- the small beautiful world, the precious world of a child and rip a parent away. they feel abandoned. that will have lifelong consequences. the inspector general has pointed it out, others have pointed it out and i have pointed it out at hearings with our immigration officials. >> congresswoman, you point out -- i compel people to read the i.g. report because it is a tough read on exactly what you just described. >> brutal. >> the impact -- these were not teenagers. these were young kids --

>> 7, 6. >> and the mental impact on them that the ig puts out there. it's one of those you can't believe the policy hasn't changed if more people see this i.g. report. >> chuck, i was at the border. i wanted to make sure i saw the border. i went to clint and saw children behind glass. they literally would not let us speak or get near the children. they had them in a cell meant for adults. if you read that i.g. report, some of the expressions the children say, they say physically their heart hurts, their heartbeat hurts. they are so emotionally wounded that they feel as though their heart is breaking. when we talk to the children between the glass, i held up a sign and said we heart you, we love you. these children have no idea why they're standing in a cell, a cold cell behind glass, not able to see their parents, separated from them with the cruellest of tactics. and you know what the guard said to me when i did that? he stopped me from doing that. how dare you, what are you

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welcome back. another house republican is joining the wave of gop lawmakers that are jumping ship. congressman bill flores of texas is now one of more than a dozen house republicans to announce he's stepping down rather than run for re-election. five of them so far of texas republicans. there have been so many that it's now got a catchy nickname, texodus. his seat is a relatively safe one for the party but this us about more than just one seat. what began as a trickle of republican retirements is threatening to turn into a flood. joining me now, abby livingston and back is the panel of beth, zerlina and elise. abby, let me start with you. it's interesting. really of the five, and let's put up our list of the five here, because we also have how trump did in the 2016 elections. you would say will hurd is probably the one that is in the most trouble. he's in a democrats' plus 3 seat

or at least clinton plus 3. but everybody else has been in, you know, their lean republican seats but marchant and olson and even flores, are they nervous something is coming? what do you make of all of this and should we connect these dots? >> well, i don't really put flores in that much of a competitive category. anything can change in this era and we had a lot of shocks this cycle. >> it's austin east. >> and it goes up to waco which is very conservative and then to college station, which is also conservative. but what i think is happening in texas, and texas is a leading indicator because our filing deadline is before everyone else's. i think we're starting to get into territory in the house republican culture where this is a social place, congress. these people are friends. i think we're starting to get to a point where people are looking around and going my friends are not coming back. this is getting less and less of

a fun -- i know congress shouldn't be fun, but less joy to be had in serving in congress. so i think we're entering into that territory. >> elise, you know capitol hill well. you've worked on capitol hill and you've got -- are you hearing this chatter on the right? >> i think abby is making a good point that doing the job in the era of trump isn't that much fun for republicans, especially if you're a republican in texas and you have a lot of minority constituents who are constantly being inflamed by donald trump's rhetoric. so when the job just isn't that much fun to begin with, when you have to spend an outsized portion of your time fund-raising and not law making to begin with and then you're in the era of trump where no law making is happening, would you cut and run? i don't know. it looks like texas lawmakers are. >> beth, these things become self-fulfilling. and here republicans -- donald trump says, hey, we're going to win the house back if i win re-election. well, not if people keep retiring.

it becomes self-fulfilling here. it's amazing, we looked at this as a phenomenon. the year after a turnover in the house, the party that lost control does ending up having more retirements. >> but to elise's point, this job had all sorts of things about it that were not fun to begin with. the nonstop fund-raising. the going home to make sure you're being seen and your constituents know you're there, plus bringing you back to washington to do whatever work is being done which doesn't seem like much that's productive. plus these guys are in the minority. president trump may try to assure them they'll win the house majority back but these guys don't really believe that. it's really regrettable not just because it's supposed to be fun but the work is supposed to be meaningful. this congress has been so polarized so long. when was the last time anything meaningful got done. >> on the senate side i'm saying lamar alexander can point to things he got passed and pat roberts has been around. but i'm looking at some of these

house members. what are they going put in their resumes that they did? congress hasn't done much. >> what have they been doing this whole time? they're in the minority. the democratic senators get nothing accomplished. what's the point? >> to the point about what they got done, in kenny marchant's case, he came in the tea party wave. their whole brand was we're not doing things. >> they wanted to not spend money. >> because of the budget. so i think what's ironic about that is that their whole brand was about sort of being the stopgap against any progressive legislation barack obama wanted to pass but obamacare did happen so a lot of democrats lost their seats as a result of that. if donald trump, like he says, has the coat tails to win back the house, you would not be seeing this. you wouldn't see 23 democrats running for president against him either. >> abby, this is also telling me that leadership doesn't have much sway over these folks. they don't seem -- you know, leadership doesn't like to be

shocked by these stories because they become stories like we're talking about here. uh-oh, retirement flu, it gets contagious. i take it they have tried to talk these guys out of retiring and it's not worked. how many more do you expect just in texas? >> at least one. there's rumors flying elsewhere. i mean all of these members, there have been rumors. but one thing and i know this shows inside ball so i'm going to go there. these texas members who were in safe seats, part of their role in the elections has always been to raise money for the nrcc, the house gop campaign arm. when these guys retire, they're done raising money. they don't want to do this anymore. so this will be a hit to the national committee as well because they would use that money in competitive races elsewhere in places like california or new jersey, so this is a tough thing. >> you know, beth, one of the things that we've been debating internally is over the last couple of weeks, some odd stars, they're not aligned yet for the

democrats, but whether it's another retirement in a georgia senate seat that expands the senate map, a few more retirements here on the house level. the opportunity that democrats have in 2020 is out there to create a governing mandate. the question is whether they have the resources and whether they have the candidates to actually pull it off. >> right. and we've seen a lot of really promising potential stars who could have stepped into these seats not doing it. >> they don't have steve bullock in montana, they don't have stacey abrams. >> and i don't pass judgment on any of these guys to make the decision they want to make but it's something that the national democrats would hope to see. stacey abrams run in georgia, steve bullock run in montana. without really strong candidates ready to jump in and do the fund-raising that's required, do the work that's required to run against trump's tweets and whomever is going to be the trump candidate, that's still very offputting for a lot of people. >> let me go with the final question to abby, and that's this. other than amped-up rhetoric

about democrats talking about texas, are you seeing more than rhetoric about trying to play in every level of politics in texas? are you seeing actually party resources being put in? do you think they'll try to put this state in play for the presidential? >> i think if it becomes competitive at the presidential, it's because of what they're doing underneath that. we need to watch the congressional races and state house of representatives. they are serious about gains on both levels. >> how serious is the state house? how much progress could they make? >> they're nine seats down. early this year there was -- sources would tell me they're going after it. we would sort of laugh at them. now it's becoming a reality. and so it's a thing. >> imagine 2020, it could look like 1980 in reverse. there is a scenario. it's not a 50% chance, not a 1%, might be in the 10%. but you're starting to see all this. maybe something is afoot. abby, thanks very much. beth, zerlina and elise, what a

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welcome back. almost every major democratic candidate has a detailed plan to combat climate change. will they make it a priority if they become president? what does priority mean? they released plans after consultation with the former candidate, jay inslee who made climate change the center of his

new defunct campaign. the candidate with the deepest ties is tom stier who spent millions of his own money through his next gen american advocacy group. he had a plan of his own. joining me now is said democratic presidential candidate tom stier. welcome back to the show. >> thank you for having me. i want to talk details. one of the things you said is on day one you'll use the national emergency powers of the presidency. this is not the first time we brought him up on the show. that's the powers he's using now to divert pentagon money to try to build that wall. you want to use the same powers to combat climate change. at the same time you're trying to cojule congress to give you

the power to do it. >> it gives the president over 150 separate powers. the kinds of things to set regulations about how energy is generated, what kind of schedule we'd be on for e verv for elect vehicles. all kinds of rules you can put in from the presidency to protect the health and safety of americans. iltds ask congre-- i would ask n the first 100 days to pass some form of the green new deal. we're in an emergency that is threatening the health and safety of every living american and every american in the future. i think mother nature has a schedule of her own. for 28 years the congress of the united states has failed to act on climate. i think at this point mother nature schedule has overtaken our schedule and we need to

respond. that's my first point. my second point is this, we know this is a global crisis. the only way we solve this is with a global coalition led by the united states of america. that's what president obama did. unless we have our house in order, how do we go to india, china, to every country in the world and say please do the right thing unless we are doing the right thing. >> i want to go back to the presidential power issue. i say this, i don't mean to fixate on it. you said you'll have 150 separate powers. you can decide to set the standards of electric vehicles. should the president alone be doing that or is this sort of you're going to send an outline of what you hope to have and congress is the one that actually should be doing this.

i'm a little confused here. are you going to be declarative? >> this is the equivalent of war powers for the president. >> you want that? you believe the next president should have these kind of powers to do this? this should not be done through congress. this is too much of an emergency to take out it have the president's hands, is that fair? >> what i'm saying is this, i would give congress 100 days. that's over three months to pass some form of the green new deal. we're talk about is a threat to the held and safety of every american. the president's job as commander in chief, number one job is to protect the health and safety of every american. i can also tell you, chuck, as a businessman, that i have studied this for well over a decade and i know that we can do this in a way that will create -- my plan

creates 46 million jobs. it's better for the economy of the united states, it's better for the wages of working americans and the health in terms of clean air and clean water of the people of the united states. we have to do this. that's why i'm making it a priority. that's why i'm saying on day one it's job one. if you're not willing to do this, we are going to be in a situation where congress's tame table is completely out of sorts with mother nature's and you're risking the health and safe of e eve every american. >> is there a part of the climate change plan of yours. it does seem as if the public feels overwhelmed by the issue. there's almost it's not clear where to begin. you're presenting it as an almost overwhelming problem because it is. how do you bring the country

along the raelealize it's a solvable problem. at times it's like this is so enormous, i can't do anything. >> the truth is the exact opposite is right. i can tell you i've studied this. i know what it will take to do this. i know we can do it. >> what sacrifice will americans have to make to do this? >> this is what americans will have to do. we're going to have to take back our government. i'm running on the idea of a broken government in washington, d.c. a government that's been bought by corporations. there's been a hostile corporate takeover of our government in d.c. we have to restore government of by and for the people. there's no place where that's more obvious than in terms of the oil and gas companies and in terms of our energy policies and climate. they are calling the tune and risking the health and safety of every american. i'm saying we need to call that

out and we need to act. we need to not only tell the truth but chuck we can do this. i'm highly confident that we have the ability to do this in a way that will make us richer and healthier and get us back to -- >> i want to go back. are you asking anything of the american public? will they have to sacrifice something whether it's financial or some creature comfort of sorts? >> what i'm asking the american people to do is to show up. i'm asking us to do exactly what i'm doing. to recognize a problem. to show up. particularly politically. insist on a solution. if the american people insist on something, we get it. i think it's time for us to realize that if we break this corporate strangle hold and stabilize the natural world we're in a position that's better than any people in the history of the planet. >> i don't mean to be interrupted but i lose the

satellite window you're participating in in 15 seconds. thank you for coming on and sharing your views. stay safe. i bet we'll be talking again soon. we'll be back tomorrow with more "meet the press". "the beat" starts now. good evening. we have a lot to get to. president trump could not get mexico to pay for the wall. he has a new back up plan. did donald trump doctor a weather forecast with a sharpie. adult film star stormie daniels offering to testify publicly about her alleged dealings with donald trump and the illegal hush money payments. in any other presidency that would be the top story all night. moscow mitch complaining about another nickname as he faces more on gun control. we begin with