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>> yes. >> it's deteriorating fast. mentally, physically, emotionally. >> we need help. we need help. that's all i can say. that's it. >> please spare a thought tonight for our bahamian neighbors, 50 miles from america's shores. and to our fellow citizens along the atlantic coast of our country tonight. and with that, that is our broadcast for this wednesday night. thank you so much for being here with us. good night from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. today as the bahamas announce that the death toll from hurricane dorian has climbed in the bahamas from five as of this weekend to seven as of last night, to 20 as of tonight, with the increasingly clear views we are getting of the overwhelming devastation in certain islands on the bahamas, making it all but a certainty that death toll will climb even higher than the 20 killed that
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was described tonight by the bahamian prime minister. tonight, with that same storm now gaining strength again as it zeroes in on the southeastern united states, with both hurricane warnings and storm surge warnings in parts of florida and georgia and the carolinas and virginia tonight, today the u.s. government in the midst of that stumbled into a situation that we've never seen before. honestly, we've never seen anything remotely like this before. i mean, this is usually the time in the show where i would try to come up with some sort of, like, clever story to lead up to this. right, like maybe a little historical anecdote to put it in perspective to help us all understand what happened -- what it means today that this strange thing happened, right. i tried to show one of the other times a u.s. president has done something a little bit like this. that's usually what i would do at this point in the show. i cannot do that tonight. because the u.s. president has never before done a thing even
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remotely like what president trump did tonight in the context of this storm. and so i don't even know what would count as relevant historical context here if i tried to make up that story. so we just got to take it at face value and try to assess how we deal with this coming from the top of the federal government now. because today the president of the united states did what he called a hurricane update, the official white house twitter account posted a video of what the president did tonight, and captioned it as president trump gives an update on hurricane dorian, except what the president held up for display to the country in his update on hurricane dorian was a map that appears to have started out as a real map made by the national hurricane center, made by the national weather service, and you can see it started off as a real map. you see it in the left-hand corner, noa, the national
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oceanic american agency. this is documents you see from the national weather service and you get the information in the caption there. again, in this document the president held up, nws, national weather service, national hurricane center. so the president, with this thing on poster board in the oval office, he appears to be presenting real u.s. government information to the public in this self-proclaimed update on hurricane dorian, some president trump in the oval office. except what the president is holding up is false information, right. it's an altered hurricane map. the little semi circle in black sharpie that's on the map there, that was added to the map. that was not put there by the national weather service. that's not something the national hurricane center did. and actually, according to bloomberg news today, that little bit was added to the map by president trump personally,
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by the president himself. bloomberg news today citing sources saying that the president is the one who drew on this map and changed it and then displayed it to the american people as if this was hurricane dorian's track. that's how bloomberg has it. according to cnn tonight, it was some other official besides the president who drew on the map before the president held it up. i mean, in either case, this is not the work of the national weather service. this is not the work of the national hurricane center, right? showing the track like heading up through florida and then, bloop, over to alabama. that's not what the national weather service says now or ever said the hurricane was going to do. and while the words of this president are no longer expected -- i think in any quarter -- to have necessary connection to the truth -- i mean, it's just -- it's a fact about this administration that nobody expects any more, that
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statements from this president will be things that are true. this is actually not him just saying a thing. this is him doing a thing. this is him announcing to the american people that he's got an update for the american public on the hurricane, and this is his update. this is him in the middle of a large hurricane bearing down on the united states holding up a doctored map that, for whatever reason, conveys false information about the track of that storm to us, the american people, who are currently in the midst of trying to figure out how best to prepare for that storm's impact. the president is giving the country false information about where the storm might be heading. and, honestly, what's the cure for that? how do you undo that level of irresponsibility when it's coming from the head of the government in a constant flow? i mean, i don't know if something started at the g7 conference that maybe rattled
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something a little bit loose, but something is going wrong right now. more wrong than it has been previously. it's going wrong at a bad time and in a bad way. i mean, you will remember the president was supposed to go to poland this past weekend, right, to commemorate the start of world war ii, 80 years ago this week. he canceled that trip at the last minute to spend it at the white house, so he could monitor every minute of hurricane dorian, leading the national response to hurricane dorian. the president then spent two days of the weekend golfing at his golf courses. since he canceled his trip to poland to, instead, stay home and golf/lead the hurricane response, the president was unsurprisingly asked by reporters if he had any message he wanted to convey to the people of poland since he'd had to cancel his trip. his trip, again, which was to commemorate poland being invaded by nazi germany to start world war ii. asked if he had anything to say to the people of poland on that somber tragic commemoration
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date. the president's answer was, quote, i just want to congratulate poland. it's a great country. it's not like he was being asked a trivia question about poland. he was asked about him having canceled his trip to poland to commemorate the start of world war ii. krgt congratulates poland. he insists he's never heard of a category 5 hurricane, experts have never seen anything like it, brand-new. this is actually the fourth category 5 hurricane to threaten the united states just since he's been president. how is it that he thinks he's never heard of a category 5 hurricane? the general well earned appropriate response to this kind of inane muddled absurdity from the white house and the president in particular has basically been to tune it out, right? seek real information elsewhere. wait for this all to pass. and, yes, i think that's true and that's warranted on normal
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subjects and on normal days, but this really is a life-threatening emergency. it's literally an emergency, a formally declared emergency, although the president is making stuff up about that, too. under u.s. federal law, if a state wants to ask for a federal emergency declaration, that request has to be made to the federal government by the top elected official in the state. the request specifically has to come from the governor of the state, by law. in the state of north carolina, the governor is a democrat, roy cooper. and his party affiliation is something that should not matter at all when there is a hurricane looming off the coast of his state. but it was democratic governor roy cooper on monday who made the formal request to the federal government to declare a emergency in north carolina ahead of this oncoming storm. it had to be him who made the request. that's the law. the governor is the only public official who can make that request. but the white house, the president himself even decided
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to lie about that. stating instead that the federal government was making this declaration of an emergency in north carolina at theequest of, not the democratic governor there, but instead at the request of one of the state's republican u.s. senators who happens to be up for reelection next year. the white house saying that that republican senator is the one who requested the emergency declaration from the federal government, and so that's why it was granted. i mean, i guess they're hoping that lie will help that republican senator back home in north carolina that will help him get reelected. but it is a lie and, you know, it means they're lying about a federally declared emergency. if you'll lie about that -- one of the adages about character is you shouldn't trust a person who shows no come puncompunction ab
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about little things. there is a possibility that person will be comfortable lying about big things, too. it's a basic character lesson you learn from fables that are read to you before you go to preschool. how do we adapt that as american sit accepts now to a situation where somebody in a very important position of responsibility is plainly comfortable lying even about life-threatening category 5 hurricane emergencies? it's the kind of situation we've just never, ever, ever been in before, so we don't have rules. we don't have even -- we don't have casual rules of thumb for how you deal with something like this, for how you make it right. i mean, in some cases, the criminal law polite help in a couple of ways. in the middle of all the lying about the weather the last few days, white house staffers quietly admitted to reporters from cnn that the president was also lying last week when he said publicly that his administration had received phone calls from the chinese
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government, very good phone calls, he called them, asking to reopen trade talks between china and the united states. this is one of those little, what's the president talking about moments from last week's news. what was that all about anyway? well, it turns out, according to white house officials, the president was lying about those supposed calls from the chinese government. and this one comes with a nice kicker. quote, aides privately conceded the alleged chinese phone calls trump described didn't happen the way he said they did. instead, two officials said trump was eager to project optimism that might boost markets. oh, that's why he told those lies about the chinese government phone calls. i mean, this is white house officials admitting that the president told the public -- told us that the chinese government had called his administration to reopen trade talks when, in fact, that had not happened. and he did it because he was hoping to boost the markets by telling that lie.
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the problem with that one is lying to the public to move markets, that's actually a crime. it's illegal to deliberately try to manipulate the markets. the securities and exchange commission says that kind of behavior is against federal law. for the record, it's also a crime for a president or anyone to falsify a weather forecast, like, say, a hurricane tracking map, like he did today when he held up this doctored map in the oval office. as meteorologist matthew cappucci points out today, and andrew freidman at the washington post point out, per 18 u.s. code section 2074, whoever knowingly publishes any weather forecast or warning of weather conditions falsely representing such forecast shall
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be fined under this title or imprisoned by not more than -- excuse me -- imprisoned not more than 90 days or both. you have to pay a fine for that or go to prison for 90 days or both. i should say the modern iteration of both of those government weather services mentioned in that statute would include the national weather service, would include the national hurricane center, which was, in fact, the originator of the tracking map the president put on display in the oval office today with what was reportedly his own added false drawing that was scribbled into the corner to make it look like the hurricane was going somewhere that it wasn't. and what this appears to be about is the president trying to backfill for a weird lie that he's been telling about this hurricane. while the president was not in poland, while he was instead having his golfing weekend, he started tweeting this weekend and saying aloud this weekend
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that the great state of alabama was in the path of hurricane dorian. alabama will most likely be hit much harder than anticipated. he tweeted it. he said it on camera a couple times. now, the national weather service to their credit, they were johnny on the spot with their rebuttal. within 20 minutes of the president making these weird claims that alabama was going to get hit by this hurricane, it's not going to get hit by this hurricane. the national weather service office in birmingham, alabama, was clarifying that what the president was saying was absolutely not true. alabama will not see any impacts from dorian. we repeat, no impacts from hurricane dorian will be felt across alabama. the system will remain too far east. i mean, the only reason the national weather service had to send that out was because of the false information to the contrary that was inexplicably being promulgated by the president. and why was he doing that? who knows why the president was lying about alabama being in the path of the hurricane. but he has done so repeatedly,
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and that has now apparently led up to this odd display of this falsified national weather service map today in the oval office at what the white house billed as the president's hurricane update. and what that means in practical terms is that americans now need to debunk the president of the united states in order to find real national weather service tracks of the hurricane while the hurricane literally bears down on the eastern seaboard of the united states. and it's all self-inflicted and explicable and soin some cases technically illegal. if the national weather service insists on putting out real information that doesn't back up false things the president has said about this hurricane, is he going to fire them? is he going to retaliate against them? he is he going to denounce the weather service as the deep state? he'll tell bill barr he should prosecute them for something? think bill barr will? it's insane, but we don't have
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anyway to make sense of this. nothing like this has ever happened before. you kind of think that like the weather is the thing that might be a great leveller in terms of the facts. a whole bunch of the democratic presidential candidates put out plans for the last few days. cory booker and pete buttiegieg and kamala harris. elizabeth warren has just announced she's adopting jay inslee apartments climate plan. jay inslee pronounced himself delighted she's taking it. he said when he dropped out of the presidential race he considered himself to be an open source document and hoped other candidates would, in fact, run on it. democrats are trying to compete with this president. they're trying to say donald trump should be a one-term president in part because of his handling of climate. in terms of the current administration's climate plans, i mean, you have to read them not through what they say, but what they do. today, for example, we learned
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that the trump administration is rolling back efficiency standards on light bulbs. standards that were first promulgated under the george w. bush administration. and light bulbs kind of sounds like no big deal, but the rule that the trump administration is rolling back today was both working and it was kind of a big deal. quote, the rule change announced today by the trump administration is expected to increase u.s. electricity use by 80 billion kilowatt hours over the course of a year, roughly the amount of electricity needed to power all the households in pennsylvania and new jersey. getting rid of that rule as of today. also today the washington post reporting that, quote, the top interior official who pushed to expand the drilling in alaska will now join an oil company drilling in alaska. this is called drilling the swamp, not draining it. the washington post reporting today that the trump interior department official who is the
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guy in charge of overseeing oil and gas drilling on federal lands is now joining a foreign oil company that's expanding its drilling operations on alaska's north slope. before he left the interior department, this is the guy who oversaw preparations to hold lease sales in parts of alaska that would open those parts of alaska up to being drilled for oil by private companies. now that official who just did that work in the trump administration is going to work for one of those companies that's drilling in alaska. so that's what the trump administration is actually doing in terms of climate policy. no matter what it is that they're saying, you can see evidence of what it is that they're doing. but as this storm bears down on the southeastern united states and the policies and the actions of this administration are one thing, the random nonsense words from the president and the white house on this or any other issue is usually quite another thing altogether. and in most cases, it's worth
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ignoring. just watching what they do rather than what they say. but now, i mean as of tonight, we are in a new -- i repeat, new situation in which the president's daily nonsense has crossed over into behavior in the midst of a literal emergency. the president putting on display a map that appears to deliberately misinform the public about what's going on at a time when this potentially quite deadly thing is roaring on shore. joining us now to talk about what's actually going on is msnbc meteorologist bill karins. >> but first, you hammered the nail in. i have to pull it back out and hammer it just a little more because let's just show you the maps. he sent the alabama tweet out saying alabama was at risk along with florida, south carolina and north carolina and georgia. we can take the map out. that morning he sent the tweet, four hours before it was out, this was the official forecast. most people in a position of power would wake up to see this.
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pretty obvious, right? maybe he didn't see it. 5:00 a.m. in the morning, maybe he missed it. so after we went through all this nonsense you just said today, the president tweeted out this map saying that this was his proof of why alabama was in the cone. all those squiggly lines are our computer mott els. oh, he's got us. even louisiana -- even louisiana and mississippi. if that's the case, i don't know why he left louisiana and mississippi off, alabama. let's take a closer look at this. oh, the date is august 28th. wait, he tweeted that out on september 1st. this was four days before he sent the tweet out about alabama. i said, why would you pick four days before the tweet? you know, why would you pick a map? so i said, okay, let's see what the spaghetti lines looked like. on the weather nerds web site. hours before the tweet this is what the spaghetti lines looked like. it was hours before he did it.
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he couldn't have sent that up saying that's the reason why. maybe he didn't see that. let's go back 24 hours before he sent out the alabama tweet. still none of the lines go in there. >> wow. >> so if that is his proof, then he wants us to believe that for four days cancelling poland and golfing, he didn't get any other weather maps showing it was going -- so what's worse? trying to cover this up and keep going on it or the fact that his argument saying that he -- four days? at this point should we apologize to everyone at the national hurricane center, alltel the emergency managers everyone evacuated in south carolina and north carolina that may be watching right now trying to get some facts, information? >> that's the key here for me, because real information is always important. it's the basis of living as an adult. it's the basis of our democracy, the basis of us communicating with one another, making rational decision biz how to conduct ourselves as citizens to
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live our lives, even members of families and responsible people. facts matter. in a situation that is a literally and formally declared emergency, facts are life and death. and in this case we've got this new hurdle for people like you and for people who work at the national weather service, people who work at the national hurricane center trying to save lives conveying real information, there is a brand-new hurdle we've never had before, which is the president conveying repeatedly insistently false information that serves some other purpose for him. and that -- i want to know how dangerous it is, i guess. >> we have people in nation hurricane center for the last week have been working round the clock shifts watching this storm with the best scientific knowledge to help everyone out. they left their families on labor day weekend when the storm started getting really nasty. do you know how many media inquiries they got today? will you comment on this? will you comment on the president doing this 1234 what are they supposed to do? they're supposed to be nonpolitical. they're just trying to give science. now we have someone toodlidoodl
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their maps to save people's lives. i mean -- i don't know. at this point should we go and help the people in south carolina and north carolina? >> i mean, let's -- i asked somewhat rhetorically in my introduction here, what's the cure to this? i do actually think the cure to this is real information. >> it's science. it's like the climate argument. it's science. if you don't want to believe the science, fine. but that's up to every individual. >> bill, when you look at what's happening -- what's actually happening right now with hurricane dorian, what do you expect in terms of the most dangerous situations and the things you're most worried about over the next 48 hours? >> starting tomorrow morning and going for about 36 hours we're likely going to have another billion dollar weather disaster in our country. and that's how serious it is. we can show you the maps. we can go over to our graphics weather 6 computer. i can take you through some of the thinking, the latest on everything here. that the' looking at the path and shows you coming up the coast. as far as what we're going to be dealing with is that's the
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center of the storm. we didn't have too bad of a storm surge this afternoon in savannah. they're expecting tonight 1:00 a.m. to have the third highest water level they've ever recorded since the 1940s. >> in savannah? >> in savannah, that's going to do damage. in charleston they're expecting the second highest water levels they recorded only after hurricane hugo. we can have significant damage on the coast tonight. as the storm moves, rakes the coast from charleston to the outer banks, that's 280 miles of a category -- strong category 2 right along the coast. so it won't lose that much strength. we have multiple hazards we're going to deal with with the storm. we have the storm surge we just talked about. because it's so close to the coast, we're also going to now bring in rainfall problems. we're going to have flash flooding. we're going to have a lot of trees down. we're going to have power outages. you get the general idea. we're about to go through this horrendous event and everyone is wasting too much time on what we just mentioned. >> because we have to, because he's put this in the way.
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>> that's our job i guess. >> bill, i really appreciate you being here. i know it's going to be a long night for you. thanks a lot. we'll be right back. stay with us. stay with us
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conseat of the show was contestants would try to win games so they could avoid getting a pie in the face. that's apparently what's going on in this next clip. you will want to watch closely because the payoff at the end, it's a visual payoff, and it's worth it. >> here's what we're going to do now. we're going to find out how much of the stuff in your purse and how much of the stuff in your purse you're willing to give up. the lady that has the lightest purse is the winner. the one that has the heaviest purchase gets a little surprise. you're allowed -- how much time, 15 seconds? as much stuff as you want up here, as much as you want up had here. whatever you unload i get to keep. what's that? >> my husband's wallet. >> your husband's wallet, is there anything in there? oh, good. if you put it out here, it does become mine. i will not give it back. how long have you been married? >> almost 15 years. >> oh, very good. well, that's a big wallet.
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things are going well for your husband. kathy, remember, whatever you put down here you gave up and you gave up -- this is her husband's wallet. sir, how many american express cards does one person need? let's count them together. there's one. two. oh, wait a minute there's three american express cards. he's got a gold, a platinum and a corporate. he's got nine visas. and an at&t credit card. okay, fine. well -- >> i told you it would payoff. were you watching? paul manafort. hi, on a freaking nickelodeon game show from the 1990s. this was posted online last night by twitter user samuel hammond and thank you for it. no, we did not know this existed before we saw this last night. i should note that paul manafort's wife kathy ended up having the lighter of the two purses at the end of that game, which meant the other contestant ended up taking the pie to the face. which was a win for team manafort.
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but you know, life comes at you. one minute you're in the studio audience during a taping of a nickelodeon game show while the host is teasing you about, oh, my god, how many american express cards do you have? the next year the president's campaign chairman serving 7 plus years in federal prison and awaiting the start of your trial on state felony charges as well. that's where the president's campaign chairman is now. the president's deputy campaign chairman we learned this week is still cooperating with federal prosecutors, having basically been the government's star witness at manafort's federal trial already. lawyers in gates' case telling a federal judge today that -- federal judge this week, excuse me, that rick gates' cooperation is ongoing and they don't want another status report before 9 judge in his case until mid november. trump's former national security advisor mike flynn was also a cooperating witness for the government for a time. but this week that seems to have gone off the rails now that he has dumped his legal team and
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hired a new legal team full of anti-robert mueller crusadeers. this week prosecutors told the judge that flynn's cooperation has ended. flynn's defense team told genentech in his case they want the prosecutors in the flynn's case disciplined. that does president seem like it's heading for a very happy ending. as for the president's personal lawyer, michael cohen, he is also in federal prison right now, but he may finally be getting a little bit of indication or something to hope for. earlier this summer federal prosecutors ended their investigation into payments made during the 2016 presidential campaign to women who claimed they had had affairs with then candidate donald trump. the payments were to keep them from talking about those alleged affairs before the election. now, michael cohen has been complaining loudly from prison about the fact that he was prosecute ford those campaign finance felonies while everybody else involved in those felonies, including the president, seems to have gotten off the hook. cohen telling the new yorker,
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quote, how come i'm the only one? how come i'm the one that's going to prison? i'm not the one that slept with the porn star. well, now, house democrats say they plan to launch an inquiry into the matter starting as soon as next month. from what we know, michael cohen is not expected to be brought in to testify during these hearings. i should mention there is precedent in terms of calling federal prisoners in to congress to testify at important hearings. the senate finance committee did it as recently as 2007 when they brought in a convicted felon to testify about identity theft and tax fraud. there he was in his blazer over his orange jumpsuit. whether or not an orange jumpsuited michael cohen is put before the cameras before the democrats and congress, he may in prison have his vindication if house democrats launch their own inquiry into what happened to the other people who were involved in the commission of those campaign finance felonies. remember, federal prosecutors described the president as individual one who directed the commission of those felonies.
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well, against this backdrop, this sort of where are they now backdrop involving all of these people very closely related to president trump and his campaign, well, today we finally got a case where somebody caught up in an offshoot investigation from the robert mueller case got acquitted by a jury. today former white house counsel greg craig was found not guilty of lying to the justice department about work he did for the ukrainian government back in 2012 in a scheme that was cooked up by paul manafort, the president's campaign chairman. greg craig is the only member to be prosecuted in a case derived from the mueller probe. this case had seemed a little wobbly from the start, but today the verdict in less than five hours from a jury, not guilty. joining us now is josh gerstein, senior political affairs with politico.com there for the whole trial. josh, nice to have you here. thanks for being here. >> rachel, good to be with you. >> i got the sense from reading
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your dispatches from the greg craig trial that the prosecution might have wobbled a little bit, might have seemed a little off their game or might have seemed they had been knocked off a bit by the judge at the outset of this trial. was it not that much of a surprise when craig got acquitted today by this jury or did it surprise you? >> i was a little surprised with how quickly it came, rachel, but i wasn't that surprised with the acquittal. i really felt there were going to be at least a few jurors that had reasonable doubt about craig's guilt and we did get a chance to talk to a couple of the jurors right after the verdict was returned. one of them said that the jury was initially split almost down the middle on craig's guilt, but there was a very technical issue at the trial about when craig may have misled the government and there were really only a couple of instances that were up for the jury to decide and the jury said on those two occasions there wasn't enough proof that he had actively sought to
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confuse federal officials. and so they ended up acquitting him. although some of them did say it was a pretty close call. >> and in terms of that technical issue, that date in terms of when craig allegedly lied to these officials at the justice department, is the importance of that date basically the statute of limitations for the crime here, that he had to have committed this alleged crime within the five year statute of limitations in order to be convicted by this jury today? >> that's exactly the issue, rachel, but the jury wasn't told that. the jury was only told they could consider whether craig had actually committed this offense after a certain date. the window was actually extended a little bit as craig's attorneys tried to convince prosecutors over the last year or more to not file this case. they agreed to extend it somewhat, but at a certain point they stopped and within a few days after that, craig was indicted. and one other thing that's worth mentioning, rachel, is craig's lawyers came out after this and suggested that this case was a disgrace and we had some close
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friends of craig who say they think this was actually, if not politically motivated, an effort to try to make the mueller probe seem more politically evenhanded. perhaps even giving in a little bit to trump's criticism that mueller had gone after too many republicans or too many members of his administration. >> in terms of -- on that last point, josh, did any of the jurors who spoke publicly or spoke with you about these deliberations describe their own either suspicions or frustrations with the prosecution having been brought? obviously this wasn't mueller's prosecutors directly bringing this case. they spun this off to the u.s. attorney who brought it. was that something jurors raised as well, why craig was prosecuted in the first place? >> one juror said he thought it was a waste of effort given the things mueller was supposed to be investigating. the juror said he was disappointed mueller hadn't brought any charges directly
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against americans regarding russian interference in the 2016 campaign. so it was pretty interesting that he made it on the jury and he was also fairly strongly in favor of acquittal. another juror said they understood given the way that craig was stepping up to the line and might have actually lied before that key statute of limitations date, that this was a legitimate case. at least for the justice department to have investigated, if not brought. >> fascinating. well, first acquittal in any of these cases so many of which ended in guilty pleas and prosecution, others ended in hung juries. fascinating conclusion of the craig case. thank you for covering it and helping us understand it. >> no problem. >> senior legal affairs contributor with politico. all right, we'll be right back. stay with us. ll be right back stay with us cleaning tough bathroom and kitchen messes with sprays and wipes can be a struggle. there's an easier way. try mr. clean magic eraser. just wet, squeeze and erase tough messes like bathtub soap scum and caked-on grease from oven doors.
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in great britain, if you say something has gone pear shaped, that means that thing has gone wrong. i consider that to be a great insult to pears. also to the shape of pears, which frankly is a nice shape. i've never actually been offended in my life, but that gets me close. i learned another frankly dodgy british insult is to call someone or to call something a great big girl's blouse. why is that an insult? this is a small boy's shirt a good -- anyway, a great big girl's blouse is an insult, at
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least according to the new prime minister of great britain who hurled that phrase at the leader of the labor party in parliament today. boris johnson, prime minister of great britain, screamed today at jeremy corbyn that he was a great big girl's blouse. he also tried this one. >> there is only one chlorinated chicken that i can see in this house, and he's on that bench. will he confirm again? will he confirm? will he confirm that he will let the people decide? let the people decide on what he is doing to this country's negotiating position by having a general election on october the 15th. >> there's only one chlorinated chicken that i can see in this -- despite prime minister boris johnson persuasive rhetoric about chlorinated chickens and the size of girl's blouses, british parliament did not go with his call to have a snap general election six weeks from now, and his effort to
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break the u.k. out of the european union. boris johnson has only been prime minister for 30 seconds. he's already lost multiple high-stakes votes in parliament, and won none of them. today it was all the speaker of parliament could do to keep some basic order throughout another rowdy day in the house of commons. >> order. if we have to go on longer because people sitting on the treasury bench are yelling to try to disrupt, it will go on longer. some people used to believe in good behavior. i believe in good behavior on both sides of the house. it better happen or it will take a whole lot longer, very simple, very clear. >> order. >> it's order, order. >> it's very difficult to hear the responses from the prime minister. members must calm themselves. there is a long way to go. >> there sure is.
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"order, order!" >> here's one moment, a non-yelling moment from the brexit disaster in great britain i want to show you tonight because i think it kind of captures some of the expespecta but also the weight, the antics, incredible theater of it alongside the historic weight, even the existential despair that this moment in political failure is bringing about in our most important overseas ally. when the brand-new prime minister boris johnson lost his first big brexit vote as prime minister yesterday, he lost it because over 20 members of his own party crossed over and voted against him. the conservative party lawmakers who voted against him included some of the most senior members
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of the party, long-serving conservative party elders. to punish the lawmakers who voted against him, boris johnson banished them all from the conservative party. they will not be allowed to run on the conservative party ticket in the next election, which is more or lessee equivale equival kicking them out of parliament. one who he is booting out of the conser conservative party is this man. if it tickles something in the back of your mind, he looks a little familiar, he looks like winston churchill, that is because he is winston churchill's grandson. his name is nicolas. he has served for almost 30 years. today in parliament he got choked up giving what amounted to his farewell address while urging his colleagues to continue to oppose what boris johnson is trying to do. >> mr. speaker, i'm not standing in the next election and i am vast approaching the end of 37
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years service to this house of which i have been proud and honored beyond words to be a member. i am surely very sad that it should end in this way, and it is my most fervent hope this house will rediscover the spirit of compromise, humility and understanding that will enable us finally to push ahead with the vital work in the interest of the whole country that has inevitably sadly neglected while we have debated so much time to wrestling with brexit. i urge the house to support this bill. >> here, here. >> if you do not understand how kicking winston churchill's grandson out of parliament gets great britain any closer to a solution to its current crisis, you are not alone. really nobody knows how this ends, even people who really should know. joining us now is jillian tett. chair of the editorial board for the u.s. edition of the financial times. it's an honor to have you here. >> glad to be here.
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thank you. >> i know that americans are both sort of riveted by this spectacle, but also alienated by its seemingly arcane nature and difficult to discern plot lines. >> i think there are a lot of parallels between what american voters reacted to trump's twitter account whether that first happened. they were shocked and horrified, they laughed. it was almost entertaining and it became a source of conversation around the water cooler. in many ways what's happening right now in parliament is just the same. people are shocked and horrified. but there is actually a very serious point here, which is many of the political structures we got used to and the political practices in the last few decades are breaking down, and we don't know what's going to replace them. >> when boris johnson kicks all of those members of the conservative party essentially out of the party and out of parliament, presumably he expects not just to have reduced his majority down to a minority and made his party smaller, presumably he believes that those people will be replaced by
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other conservatives who are more loyal to him? >> i think at the moment a long-term strategy is complete ill ustian. this is desperate moves. it's a bit like playground politics, people are doing whatever they can to throw stones at each other. it is not clear whether they are kicked out perm in thely on not. he's rolled back a bit and said maybe they will come back. some will come back. maybe it's all the fault of the chief whip, the person who has to keep the party in order. it's so chaotic, you can barely free diplomatic what's going to happen next week, next month, next day. >> speaking of next month, do you think there is going to be a national election, the third national election in five years? >> at the moment the party, the opposition party said they're not going to sign up to any new election until the bill to stop a "no-deal" brexit is actually signed, sealed and delivered. but the problem is that even when that bill is signed, sealed and delivered, it's unclear whether the entire fragmented opposition will unite or not.
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i mean, the key thing to understand is that the u.k. has hithoner to had two dominant parties, labor, like democrat, that is now fragmented and you have a messi merge. we could be on the merge of an elite politics going forward. that is a pretty scary thought given all the concern about the lack of constitution and the uncertainty and, p.s., the economic damage as well. >> is there a strain on the parliamentary system itself rather than the strain on the individual parties? obviously what some of what boris johnson has done to arouse anger from members of his own party by proposing pro rogueing parliament, closing down parliament on his own terms, is the parliamentary system itself wobbly? >> it has been under pressure ever since they had the referendum for brexit. historically they had a decision where they are taken by parliament, not by referendums. the referendum was so close, it was inevitably going to create a
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lot of controversy about whether the popular rule was to leave overwhelmingly or not. the fund amount 58 problem has been all the way through the majority of parliament aryans never wanted to leave at all. so what is democracy, how do you measure it, how do you organize it? these are fundamental existential questions confronting the u.k. right now and, again, in many ways they echo what's been happening in america. >> whew. it's incredibly entertaining at one level and it is incredibly dark and deep at the same level. jillian tett who is the editor at large for the u.s. edition of the financial times, chair of the editorial board. thank you so much for coming in. thanks, appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. stay with us. right back stay with us >> order. order, very rude for members. order. r, very rude for members order. ed. >> teacher: let's turn in your science papers. >> tech vo: this teacher always puts her students first. >> student: i did mine on volcanoes. >> teacher: you did?! oh, i can't wait to read it. >> tech vo: so when she had auto glass damage... she chose safelite. with safelite, she could see exactly when we'd be there.
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you can think of it as the offertory hymn of the trump campaign. >> and who's going to pay for the wall? >> meks dough. >> who? >> mexico. >> who is going to pay for the wall? >> mexico. >> and who is going to pay for the wall? >> mexico. >> over and over, call and response. who is going to pay? mexico. who pays? mexico. turns out mexico is not going to be paying. but do pass the plate because in a letter to congress, the secretary of defense now says the president will be taking money for his wall out of the u.s. military, out of pentagon funding originally set aside for
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military construction projects. $3.6 billion to be cut out of military bases and facilities around the country and around the world. as the trump administration was rolling out this plan for sliding 3 1/2 billion dollar out of the u.s. military so he can use that to build the wall mexico was supposedly going to pay for, we got word from congress that no way are they going to let that happen. for one thing, they tell us they may keep challenging this in the courts. they believe they have grounds for doing that. for another, the house version of the bill that funds the u.s. military, the version of that bill the house passed in july, that bill expressly prohibits the white house from taking money from the military to put into the wall. it's explicit. when lawmakers get back to work this fall, one of their big chores is to reconcile the house and senate versions of that military funding bill. but if you think democrats in the house are likely to cave on this issue, more likely to cave on this issue than they were before the president started listing and naming all the military projects that are going to lose money, well, that's not
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what we are hearing, nor is it what anyone would expect. so, yeah, mexico isn't paying for the wall. he says the u.s. military is going to pay for the wall. wouldn't bank on that either. that does good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. when i was working in the senate i used to once in a while wonder would the parliamentary system be better. i'm not wondering that tonight. we've never seen anything like it. >> we've never seen anything like it, and it is -- i mean, we do have parallels in terms of emerging or expected schisms within the parties and pressure on each of the parties and pressure on the two-party system. that comes on the election carousel every two years in this country. but the idea that the system itself may not be able bear the strength, that's something we fear but they're living through. >> it sure makes a constitution look like a good idea. >> one that's written down, yeah, i'm glad for tha