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good morning, i'm jo ling kent at msnbc headquarters in new york. it's 7:00 in the east, 4:00 out west. here is what's happening right now. breaking late in a tweet the president calling off a secret meeting with the taliban. it was supposed to happen today. we will tell you why there's a sudden change. and another twist in the military with a new and
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interesting response to that report about stopovers at one of president trump's resorts. and laid to waste, the shocking pictures from the bahamas in the aftermath of dorian and the alarming circumstances for those with nowhere to turn. new polling data, the race among presidential contenders is tightening. who is up, who is down and who is not happy about the next debate. but first some breaking news. the president announcing overnight in a tweet he canceled a secret meeting with the taliban and the president of afghanistan. that meeting was supposed to take place today at camp david. nbc's mike vic kara has the details. what happened here? >> reporter: it was a huge surprise, no question about it. secret negotiations today at camp david between the united states and the taliban. somewhere on the periphery the afghan president ash shar afghani. remember, this is just three days before the 9/11 anniversary
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but the president called it off. why? a thursday attack in kabul killing 12, the taliban saying that they were responsible for it and among the 12 dead, a u.s. serviceman. the president writing in one of his tweets, what kind of people would kill so many in order to seemingly strengthen their bargaining position? so the president said he was calling it off and it's worth noting, of course, that the president, these talks have been going on for a while between his administration, his negotiators and the taliban. the goal was to bring down u.s. troops, start to bring them down. there are currently still 14,000 americans serving in afghanistan, 18 years after they were sent there, nearly two decades of war and, of course, the longest war in american history. the president was facing push back on those plans from normally stalwart allies in congress like liz cheney and lindsey graham and even his own national security adviser here at the white house john bolton was said to be opposed and
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frozen out of much of these negotiations. the president saying that the peace negotiations that he said were to take place at camp david in nearby maryland today with the taliban are now off. >> mike, thank you so much. joining us now julia manchester reporter for the hill, allen smith political reporter for nbc news and scott wong senior staff writer for the hill. allen, just over the past week the administration signaling that an agreement was imminent, secretary of state pompeo had been scheduled to appear on the sunday shows this morning, and the afghanistan president was expected to travel to washington in the next few days. so what does this disappearance of the talks say about the administration's ability or willingness to negotiate here? >> so first off i just want to say these negotiations have been going on for some time and it's clear that the trump administration has been pushing to get some sort of deal done because president trump really wants to be removing troops from afghanistan. i mean, previously we've seen in the negotiations with kim
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jong-un that president trump has thrown curve balls like this where he has said talks are off, the second summit is off and a few days go by, a few weeks go by and talks resume, talks are back on. it's too soon to know whether this is going to completely scuttle talks. i know this caught a lot of people off guard but reports have said that the talks were canceled a few days ago and that president trump was just announcing them last night. we need to see what's going to happen in the days and weeks to come, but based on president trump's previous actions it would be -- it would at least appear unlikely that this is the end of conversations between his administration and afghan leaders. >> scott, building on that, withdrawing from afghanistan is one of the trump campaign promises here. how does this affect the race for him going into 2020? >> well, i think it adds to sort of this idea of, you know, chaos. this is unexpected, it was sort of -- the announcement was a
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little bit out of the blue and i think also a little bit politically tone deaf that he was announcing bringing the taliban to camp david, just three days ahead of the anniversary of 9/11. i think that, you know, could potentially rub some people the wrong way, especially 9/11 families. so it sort of is the latest in this string of bizarre sort of foreign -- you know, foreign policy moves when you look at the last, you know, few months of the summer with, you know, trump trying to purchase green land from denmark and calling off those, you know -- a meeting with the denmark leader, you know, calling the chinese president, you know, an enemy and then reversing himself the very next day saying he was a great leader. so i think it's raising a lot of questions and some people are scratching their heads over this one. >> julia, what about the pressure from the likes of
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lindsey graham. he thinks it's too early to withdraw force afghanistan. >> right. this is a very rare scenario where president trump is facing backlash from members of his own party and members who have been loyal to him, such as lindsey graham and liz cheney. i think he was definitely feeling the pressure here, but then again, this is very much -- goes in line -- this idea of pulling out of afghanistan goes in line with president trump's anti-interventionist point of view that he's very much been campaigning on. he's very critical of former president george w. bush for getting involved in iraq and for, i guess, leading the u.s. on for so long in afghanistan. so this is, you know, definitely putting a bit of a wrench in his plans to, you know, keep that campaign promise, however, i think president trump is very much getting a taste of reality, if you will, in terms of the length of these talks and how complicated they are and the fact that there isn't party unity. i think that the fact that there isn't party unity on this issue
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is making this a lot more difficult for president trump than he probably originally fought. >> julia, stay with us for a second. we want to come back to you. we want to hit a few more stories that are new. the u.s. air force is confirming that seven crew members stayed at president trump's turnberry resort in march. house democrats are investigating whether military spending has helped that trump property stay financially afloat, but the air force says it was not unusual and that using taxpayer money at trump's resort was the closest available and least expensive accommodations. closest to what you may ask. well, a struggling airport seen as crucial for the success of the president's golf course since 2017 the military has spent $11 million refueling planes at that airport. so why not refuel at a nearby base where fuel may be cheaper? well, the air force said, quote, we schedule the stopover points based on optimized leg distance
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and economy, for instance, contract fuel availability. the trump organization telling "the new york times" that they have charged the military a discounted rate and the profits have been paid back to the federal government, but this all raises major red flags as to what is going on and top democrats are now investigating the president on that. >> the president has decided to make -- to convert the white house into an atm machine. i hope that there is no cooperation between donald trump and the military because if that is the case, then donald trump has achieved something that i don't think any president in our history has achieved or even attempted to achieve and that is to corrupt the military. >> meanwhile, president trump also complaining how journalists keep reporting on his so-called sharpie controversy even though he is the one who keeps on bringing it up for about a week now. and new reporting today about another government effort to give the president possible
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cover. the "washington post" has obtained an internal email showing that staffers with the national oceanic and atmospheric administration for noaa were warned not to contradict the president. an unnamed spokesperson with the national weather service saying that guidance was sent, quote, to maintain operational focus on dorian than other severe weather had ards without distraction. but a noaa meteorologist tells the "washington post" this is the first time i felt pressure from above to not say what is truly in the forecast. and over in the race for president, a new poll from the "washington post" and abc news shows the former vice president joe biden is still leading the 2020 democratic pack. senator elizabeth warren coming in second as the candidate who would be, quote, best for the country and that's within, of course, the margin of error there. biden is still considered as having the best chance to beat president trump. julia, allen, scott are all back with me right now.
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allen, what's your read on this poll? biden remains steady throughout, not much of a build, not much of a fall, what does that mean? >> this echos a lot of polls as far as biden goes where he's solidly right around 30%, it's been that way really since he has gotten into the race with a few bumps in either direction at certain times. it really feels as if he still is yet to be really covered as the front runner or someone who most people expect is going to be in that position once the primary ends. it feels similar to how president trump was covered at this point in the primary in 2016. you look right below the vice president and you have senator warren and senator sanders splitting that more progressive vote. it will be interesting to see in the debate this week whether sanders and warren not necessarily go after each other but try to draw real differences between the two of them or if they focus their fire on the former vice president. this is the first time that warren and biden will be on the
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stage with each other. during the last debate warren and sanders occupied center stage with each other but spent that time taking tire interest candidates like john delaney and others who wanted to poke holes in their policy points. this will be the first time where they get to go head to head with the vice president on stage. >> having everyone on one stage will certainly make a difference on that front. michael bennett who is not on the next debate stage he blasted dnc rules yesterday. listen to what he had to say. >> i think the dnc rules are ridiculous. the last national poll that we had i was tied with at least three people that are going to be on the debate stage and there was one person who is on the debate stage who was behind me. >> so is he raising a legitimate concern about dnc rules here, scott? >> well, i think anyone who doesn't qualify for the debate is certainly going to have some gripes and is going to be complaining about it. you know, whether he has legitimate concerns, you know,
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that's probably not for me to say, but i do think that, you know, looking at biden consistently on top in these polls, you know, talking to democrats around the country and more establishment democrats here in d.c., you know, this is because they know biden, he is a known quantity, they obviously from what the polls show they know he can beat trump and, you know, and so people feel very comfortable with him. so i think these are some of the sentiments that you're hearing from democrats here and around the country is they just feel, you know, right now at least that he's the best person to take on donald trump. >> julia, i want to get a little reaction here from you on the air force confirming the layover at the president's resort in scotland. this issue continues to make headlines here. how significant do you think this is going to be on the debate stage? how are the democrats going to attack this issue, do you think? >> this is going to absolutely play a rather big role on the debate stage and i think this is definitely going to play with
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democratic primary voters. i mean, we've seen throughout the trump administration and especially since democrats took control of the house last year we're going to see a lot of, you know, democrats trying to push for even more investigations into this and we've seen that democrats have been stone called each time they try to subpoena or request documents from various parts of the government, this time we're seeing this play out with the pentagon in this entire scenario. you are definitely going to see democrats really push this message home of president trump has not distanced himself from his -- from his ties to his business interests in that he is still very much connected and that, in turn, makes the oval office connected and the presidency connected to these privately-owned businesses. so you are going to see this play a big role in the democratic primary, but you're also going to see it most likely play a big role in the general election. i would assume that whoever the general election nominee is from the democratic party is going to hit trump on these business ties
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and show that president trump has essentially accused president trump of not keeping his word to originally untie himself from his businesses and maybe mix business with government and this is just the latest example of that. >> probably not draining the swamp, especially in the eyes of democrats. >> no. >> julia, allen, scott, thank you all for being here. >> thank you. we continue to follow dorian, it's making its way past eastern canada this morning, the storm has been downgraded to a post tropical cyclone but still packing a punch with winds up to 100 miles an hour. those heavy winds cause add crane to collapse on top of a building in nova scotia. fortunately no one was injured at least so far as we know. meanwhile, recovery efforts are under way in the bahamas with coast guard choppers flying nonstop and relief agency crews setting up camps. us aid has brought in 47 tons of
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supplies to the islands. last night over 1100 people were evacuated from the numbers on a cruise ship and they were brought here to the u.s. as the search continues for the thousands of residents still missing, at least 43 people have died and we expect that number to rise. nbc's morgan chesky has been on the ground for days in the bahamas. what is going on there in nassau? >> reporter: re leave agencies and rescue efforts have gotten a foot hold in those hard hit areas. taking choppers over to abaco and setting up a camp there, that is where workers will use as a base to go to devastated neighborhoods where they will be searching door to door through the rubble to make sure no one is left behind in the hard hit areas. >> today i'm announcing $1 million in additional humanitarian assistance to help people in the bahamas affected by hurricane dorian. >> reporter: coast guard
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choppers we can hear them flying nonstop. they are going to be rescuing the critically injured, people that are trapped in hard to reach islands and bringing them here where they can receive medical care from doctors in nearby hospitals all across nassau. in the meantime hundreds if not thousands are trying to leave the islands of abaco and grand bahama because there's simply nothing left behind for them. 1,100 people loaded up on to a cruise ship in freeport, grand bahama and were taken to florida where they can start the long process of recovery. and this morning at least 70,000 bahamians are homeless as a result of hurricane dorian. i spoke to the minister of health. he said of that number at least 6,000 are unaccounted for or considered missing. >> thank you so much. who is checking in and how often? "the new york times" revealing some big numbers about top officials frequently president trump's properties. i am the twisting thundercloud. i am royalty of racing,
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jail time for actress felicity huffman for her role in the college admissions bribery scandal. they want her to pay a $20,000 fine and spend one month in prison. here is part of a report from nbc's sam brock. >> reporter: the former desperate housewives mainstay now desperate to avoid jail, expressing her regret for paying $15,000 to have a proctor prop up her daughter's s.a.t. score by as much as 400 points. telling a judge in my
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desperation to be a good mother i talked myself into believing that all i was doing was giving my daughter a fair shot. i see the irony in that statement now because what i have done is the opposite of fair. >> joining me now is msnbc legal contributor katie fang and criminal defense attorney ashley merchant. good morning. >> good morning. >> how likely is it that huffman actually serves jail time here, the first person sentenced in this scheme was a sailing coach from stanford, they only spent a day in jail. >> it's a good question because you want to feel like there's going to be some consequence with you you pay to play. so in terms of the justice system, you always want to believe that there's equity there, that justice is going to be meted out to those that have money, to those that don't have money. theres a concept called the criminal punishment code, it's the idea that the criminal justice system is supposed to rehabilitate but also punish you for the things you have done wrong.
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so felicity huffman having spent $15,000 to have somebody correct her daughter's s.a.t. scores is looking down the barrel at potentially a month in federal prison. so the question ends up being is it necessarily fair to punish the parent for what they did to benefit the child when somebody like the sailing coach only got a day? you also look at lori loughlin who has yet to be sentenced but she and her husband allegedly spend $500,000 to get their two daughters into college. if you look at felicity huffman you think she might be looking at a month in jail, can you only imagine what could happen to lori loughlin. >> that's the question a lot of people are asking here. we have 120 people who have written a letter of support for huffman. how big of an impact could this actually have against a confession of fraud? >> not writing these letters, that's not going to have a significant impact. what is going to help her the most is the fact that she actually took responsibility for what she did because in the federal system we have the federal sentencing guidelines and so people if they take responsibility they get a
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downward departure which means it lowers their sentence. it also means that they've saved justice, they've saved the cost of justice and so they get a downward departure for that. those are going to be the significant factors that help her get a lesser sentence, but i do think she is looking at going to jail for at least a month. >> katie, more than 50 others have been charged in connection with this scheme, we've been talking about lori loughlin. i mean, do you think that any other people will actually serve time behind bars? >> oh, most certainly, especially those that ashley was mentioning, those that decide to gamble, go to trial and make the federal government have to pros its case. i think the federal judge is going to want to send a message to stop this. we always talk about the open and obvious kind of donations that are made by wealthy people to put up buildings or, you know, have halls dedicated to the names of families. with he see it happen, people complain and you just kind of have to scratch your head and say i guess this is how the
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cookie crumbles, but when you have something that's been exposed as being grotesquely done to be able to pay to play, i think the federal judge is going to send a message and say this is not going to happen again, we are going to punish everybody from the bottom to the top. wrinkle is the following, usually you want to build a case from the bottom up to the top but the ring leader of this mr. singer has already pled guilty, he was the one wearing wires, he was the one cooperate for for a long time to build operation varsity blues. let's say whether or not the federal judge wants to gives out that kind of time. >> ashley, what kind of precedent would you like to see the legal system, the federal courts set here? >> that this is not okay. what they did was cheating. they are not just paying to play, that's a whole different story. they are not just making donations to the school, they're paying proctors to actually look and turn a blind eye to someone taking exams for their children. that's cheating. that is cheating a system that we have, a test taking system that we try very hard to be
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fair. so i would like to see some type of sentence that actually sends a message that this is not okay so that parents know that they can't cheat. so that students know that they can't cheat. i hate to have someone go to jail for a significant amount of time but i think a sentence does need to show how serious we take this. >> ashley merchant, katie phang, thank you so much. working against the clock, inside the race to evacuate thousands of people from the hurricane-battered bahamas and the biggest obstacles they're facing.
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here is a look at your morning headlines. rescue crews are still working to reach hurricane survivors in the bahamas a week after the storm hit the islands. at least 43 people have been killed with a death toll expected to rise significantly. u.s. coast guard helicopters and even several cruise ships are helping evacuate more than 1,000 people from the bahamas. new ex clays in iran which has taken another step back from the 2015 nuclear deal. the country saying it can enrich uranium beyond current levels to weapons grade material. iran also sending a warning to europe saying european countries don't have much time left to offer new terms on that deal.
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a 29-year-old hiker has died after falling 500 feet off the iconic half dome in yosemite national park. danielle burnett fell during a section of half dome that requires hikers to cling on to cables while they climb. it's the latest deadly accident at the summit which has seen nearly 300 accidents over the last 15 years. now to our 2020 contenders. many of the 19 presidential candidates back on the campaign trail this morning after taking the stage at yesterday's new hampshire democratic convention. after attempting to ignite their campaigns just five months before the state's crucial first in the nation primary, they talked about climate change and health care, but also uniting as a party to defeat president trump. here is what some of them had to say. >> when you see a government that works for the rich and not for anyone else, that is
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corruption pure and simple and we need to call it out for what it is. >> this country cannot continue to have a president who is a pathological liar, who even uses his sharpie pen to lie about the direction of a hurricane. how crazy is that? >> somebody who trained in the military on weapons of war, i can tell you that there are weapons that have no place in american neighborhoods. but here is the crazy thing, we talk about this z an issue where americans are divided but on something like universal background checks the american people are united. >> i plan on being the president but if i'm not i want whatever democrat is to use their clemency power to liberate thousands and thousands immediately who are unjustly incarcerated. put them on a path to liberty and freedom and justice. >> the core values this have nation are standing in the world our very democracy.
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america is at stake and everyone knows who donald trump s now we have to show them who we are. >> the vast majority of us have so much more in common than what separates us. so let that fuel us in our march toward 2020. >> joining me now is nbc campaign a manned be goldman who covered yesterday's convention and all things new hampshire. we just heard from some of the front runners in the race. we remember that elizabeth warren got a massive applause when she took the stage there in manchester. whose message resonated the most with these crucial delegates and voters? >> good morning, jo. yes, elizabeth warren had an incredible reception in the arena yesterday, close to a two minute standing ovation and voters and delegates that i spoke with afterwards were receptive to what she had to say as well as the overall enthusiasm of the crowd. her volunteers and supporters passed out thunder sticks and signs to get people engaged with
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what they was saying so it had a full reception to what she was doing. >> there are undecided voters in new hampshire at this stage of the race and we see some of the campaigns ramping up so much, mayor pete, of course, going on the airwaves with some of that $24 million that he's raised, opening campaign offices. with these undecided voters what are they looking for and how much do moves like that actually matter so early ahead of the primary? >> yes, well, as you know, i mean, in new hampshire ground game is everything. the retail politics, meeting voters, spending time in backyards and living rooms, really getting vetted by the first in the nation primary voters. the candidates had a put an investment into the ground game seemed to translate well in the arena yesterday, candidates like elizabeth warren and bernie sanders had huge receptions as well as joe biden and pete buttigieg and kamala harris. everyone who is spending time here but also has their campaign staffs really spending time throughout different counties of new hampshire making a real impact on the job. >> amanda, you are on the ground, driving all over the
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state of new hampshire working 24/7 and i wonder as you get to know voters across the state what is one thing that you feel like they really want that may be different from past primaries? >> well, it's really interesting to see the divide among voters of who is really going for electability over trump versus interesting message and reform testify ideas for the country. there does seem to be that divide among those who want to beat donald trump and people who are looking for health care and education overhaul. you heard from the candidates going after president trump but also highlighting their ideas and ones that spoke to new hampshire voters were ones that highlighted the new hampshire-specific issues. amy klobuchar did a great job of weaving in new hampshire-specific issues in her speech, where others said it was an electability argument or singular i wish few for beating donald trump in this election. >> amanda, keep up the great
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work. thank you so much. >> thanks, jo. and in the bahamas relief and recovery efforts are under way one week after hurricane dorian made landfall, the storm leaving behind devastation and heart break as entire communities were destroyed and thousands are still missing. joining me now is linitia roll, a member of the bahamian government, a member of the youth sports and culture thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. good morning. >> i want to know the pictures we see are just devastating. what has it been like there? what are you guys going through right now that we ought to know about? >> right now they're simply trying to sort of pick up the pieces. a number of the persons or families were evacuated from those areas, those devastated areas, so that they can, you know, begin to recover. so we have a number of them now safe and secure in our shelters
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here in the capital city of nassau, the island of new providence, and they are here in shelters and they are being taken care of while recovery efforts continue on those islands, particularly grand bahama and a part of abaco. they will be continuing with our partners to try to recover whatever bodies there are, whatever missing persons there are and we are simply trying to get ourselves together and to be strong, to unite and to move forward. >> what is your plan for those who are evacuating out of the country. >> we see over 1,100 people have been evacuated to florida here. what is your hope and plan for those individuals who have just left so far? >> well, persons who have left so far, many of them are right now just trying to come together in terms of their psychological state -- state and frame of
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mind, and we would appreciate that, that's important. so right now they are just being comforted and consoled by a lot of family members. they have been taken out of sort of the crisis zone. once we have sort of a clearer mind then you will find that they are better able to make decisions moving forward as to what they want, what they want to do next and how they want to do it. so what we are doing is working together with people, we are allowing the professionals to speak to individuals, to help them get through this psychologically so that they can make the best decisions. we realize that we can't just fixate to them, we have to work along with them, their communities, in particular the portions that have been affected, you know, they were very near and dear to them and the tragedy has been great for these individuals. the experience has been unprecedented. so we're being very careful. we are using kid gloves and being careful with how we're approaching the situation and continuing to be sensitive to
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the needs that the individuals have and the things that they say they need at this time. >> that is a really important way to approach this is a tsa fee in the bahamas. i want to know -- so many people here in the u.s. are watching these pictures and they want to do something. what can we do? >> i want to say first thanks to god that all is not lost here and i want to say thank you to the u.s. and i've said it before to all of the caribbean and our partners who have -- immediately while in the midst of the storm to ensure that our people get the assistance. i would just ask for their continued prayers, their continued sponsorship and cooperation and not to let our hands go. we need to rebuild, we need to recover and simply to appeal to the world that can he continue to need you. you have always been there for us, as a matter of fact, the world community, global
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community and we continue to need that global support. that's all we can ask at this time to work along with our government, the respective agencies to ensure that the help continues to reach those that need it the most. >> all right. lanisha rolle thank you so much. if you would like to help the people of the bahamas you can go to these websites on your screen to donate. and here at msnbc we're just getting started. coming up at the top of the hour is "up" with david gura. david with back with us in studio with a preview. what do you got? >> thighs to see you. that startling string of tweets last night from president trump that he had planned a secret summit at camp david with leaders of the taliban but called it off because of a suicide attack this week, we're trying to get our heads around it. the recreational marijuana of the senate foreign relations committee is probably trying to get his head around it. senator bob menendez will be on set with me live, we will see if
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let's get to the latest jobs report. it shows just 130,000 jobs added
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in august, a lower number than expected and in this chart you can see the larger trend that job growth is actually slowed down compared to last year. joining me now is a reporter with yahoo finance. now, the question here is actually about where the jobs were created. cnbc reported that had 25,000 jobs for the census not been created in jobs number would have been even lower. what's the deal here? >> what we're seeing is that we are in in climate right now, businesses are dealing with a couple different factors, dealing with recession fears driven by signals in the bond market, warning signals of recession, plus escalation in the trade war, additional tariffs, more taxes on consumers and businesses and the slowdown that may boomerang on the economy. what we're seeing with this august jobs report is businesses are holding up but being cautious. a weaker than expected august jobs report, they only added 130,000 jobs, economists were
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expecting 160,000 jobs. when you break down that number what you see is that there were 25,000 jobs added that were just government jobs that were temporary, census workers and they were only there for the 2020 population count. when you look at the private sector they only added 96,000 jobs. >> so we're looking at the whole picture and we also look at unemployment and that held steady at 3.7%. then you have the federal reserve chairman jerome powell saying that he does not see a recession coming and that the president continues to tweet that the economy is doing great. our concerns about a possible recession overplayed here? >> they are definitely not overplayed. you and i have spoken about the bond market and how we've seen these reliable signals that show that a recession is on the horizon. when the fed chair was speaking from switzerland on friday he said the u.s. is still seeing moderate growth. he said i don't see a recession
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coming on but he is also doing actions that are helping the u.s. economy not fall into recession such as cutting interest rates. >> we are expecting one more slight cut coming up here. >> exactly, this month. >> this obviously impacts our pocket books, you have this new quinnipiac poll that shows four in ten voters are actually concerned that the president's policies are hurting the economy. how does that square off with the jobs data, with manufacturing and recession, what does that actually tell us here? >> you mentioned manufacturing there. president trump has said that his trade war with china is supposed to revitalize the manufacturing sector of the united states, factories are going to be booming and all these americans are going to find all these jobs. we're seeing the reverse happen. we're seeing this escalation in tariffs and we're seeing in the august jobs report factories only added 3,000 jobs and the manufacturing sector actually shrunk for the first time in three years. so consumers, americans, are wise thing up to that fact. you mentioned that quinnipiac
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poll. for the first time since president trump has been in office voters are saying the economy is worse thing more than the people saying the economy is okay. >> thank you so much. good to see you. >> you, too. the numbers are surprising in a new report shows how many members of congress decide to visit trump hotels and how many times they're checking in. details coming up next. as a struggling actor, i need all the breaks that i can get. at liberty butchemel... cut. liberty mu... line?
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trump property since 2017. let's bring in bishop garrison and brian darling, founder of liberty government affairs. good morning, gentlemen. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> are you surprised at all by these numbers and how commonplace and frequent this just seems to be? >> well, eye been to the trump hotel here in d.c. it's very nice. i'm a little surprised that the numbers are very high. it's a very nice hotel. so i understand why people would want to stay there. i understand the argument. i understand the idea that this is an emollient being given to the president. if you take a step back and look at the big picture, i don't think this is an issue that will be much resonance with the american people because individuals will be making the case or guys like joe biden who has enriched himself off government service after he left the obama administration. and bernie sanders made $2.5
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million off book deals while in government. >> it would resonate with a lot of swing voters, i imagine this is definitely something a lot of people on both sides of the aisle could potentially identify with. and i know you think this hotel is very nice here. but don't you also see that there is a potential benefit of you going and visiting these properties or do you not think that? >> well, he's in a unique situation. he is a businessman. we haven't had a businessman with a hotel in washington, d.c. as president of the united states. >> right. that's why we are asking all of these questions. >> can we please do away with the fiction that president trump is a businessman. >> i think the case will be made by democrats that this is a corrupting influence on the government. but, look, donald trump doesn't take a salary from the federal government. he is somebody who, you know, set up that hotel in d.c. not
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knowing that he was going to be president. i don't think it's going to be an issue that matters that much. and ultimately, this is going to be litigated by the american people not the courts. and they're going to make the decision. >> okay. okay, so this will be litigated. so, how do you think the american people are going to vote on all of 24? did they basically sign off on it, at least his supporters, when they voted him into office? >> absolutely not. again, do away with the fiction that donald trump is some type of of savi businessman. he is a man who has been in bankruptcy on multiple occasions. the comment about vice president biden isn't a good one either. incident was after his public service. we are seeing a sitting president that basically has people paying tithings to him. foreign government officials, 110 from 60 different countries, that are actively giving him money, that is going into his pocket. the fact that a president doesn't take a salary, why would
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he need one who he is making so much money off these different properties that he owns? the vice president had to take a two-hour trip in order to stay at a trump hotel. and we are charging the military and our security forces every time they do this type of thing. >> bishop, i wonder -- the president claims he is actually losing money off of being president. do you believe that? >> i find it hard to believe. but, again, he is not a good business man. it is quite possible he is continuing to lose money while he is having the government ensure all of these different officials are staying at these hotels. we have a hotel around the corner from the white house in which the a.g. decided to spend $30,000 to host a holiday party there. it's absurd. >> i want to get to that actually. brian, in the last two weeks, there have been four controversies around profiting from the president.
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the crew stayed at a scottish resort. vice president pence stayed at a resort in ireland. president trump is considering hosting the g7 at doral. and attorney general bill barr mentioned he booked his 30,000 holiday party. what happened to trying to avoid a conflict of interest here, or do you think the president is being transparent? >> i think in one sense he is being transparent. you have to take a step back. who is going to make the case against president trump. it's not going to be joe biden. he definitely did enrich himself off government service. he served as vice president, wrote books, made money off being in the administration. >> can you answer the question about president trump? >> does it bother me as a voter
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