democratic strategist dan callaway. hey, guys, good to see youhere. victoria, how big is this? does this mean warren is within reach of biden? only 25 delegates behind at this point. >> this is a very big deal for because there's always another team looking to punch one in. a spectacular touchdown grab with nfl redzone from nfl network on xfinity, warren bought there's only room for that one left candidate. you get every touchdown from every game is it going to be warren? on sunday afternoons, all season long. is it going to be bernie watch every breakout star, every heart-pounding running attack, sanders? here for the delegate count we and every big time defensive stop. see it's shaping up to be warren. the mirror image is we see sundays were made for football on xfinity. that's simple, easy, awesome. public opinion polling she's add the sports entertainment package also gaining on biden and for nfl redzone. holding her own pretty strongly click, call, or visit a store today to learn more. against bernie sanders. it's super important, even more important, alex, because the dnc changed its method of how it's going to count super delegates. well, that is it. super delegates had a bigger that is the show for today, and impact, that helped the established candidates like the with "am joy" will be back next bidens, this time the super delegate will only be used if week. and alex witt has a show coming someone doesn't have a clear majority. that means getting that prime

delegate count will be key. up next. >> and who is the one who warren is doing well. >> she is. michael, before this poll was suggested product placement, and no, we will be seeing sharpie released the daily beast had an and coca-cola and mcdonalds and article entitled trump world no. >> i am expecting a large check anxiety grows over elizabeth from sharpie. warren. are republicans seeing her as a stay tuned for more msnbc. serious threat to the president? >> there is some concern but the >> good-bye, everyone. primary focus is on vice and welcome into the president biden. headquarters here, and it is most strategists understand in order to be the nominee for the noon eastern time, and democratic party, you have to announcement that the president secure a strong amount with announced a major foreign-policy african-americans. 6 to 10% say they're still open decision in a tweet. and the rush to help 70,000 for supporting someone. for the warren campaign, the people who are now homeless in question has to be, in spite of the bahamas. her quick advances, if you will, >> and the smell of death. a lot of death. why hasn't she been able to find it is bad. it is very bad. resonance within the black >> the life that we lived is bad community where joe biden has? enough, but that life that we are going to live is inhuman. it's not only african-americans, hispanics seem to favor joe >> and in the u.s., the effort to save residents along the biden over other democratic north carolina coast, and candidates. if you're one of the advisers another twist, the military with

the new and interesting response advising sanders or warren, you to that report about stopovers have to figure out how can we at one of the president's chip away at that support with resorts, and now from number two of the largest minority three to number one, and a new groups in the country. polls and early contests show >> yet, politico had a report one of these presidential out friday saying biden's candidates is pulling ahead of the others. campaign was shifting gears from but first, breaking news, new iowa and new hampshire, moving to south carolina and the south. administration response in just this new poll reveals what may the last hour as to the have been behind this shift is president's surprise cancellation of a planned secret the first sign of a campaign in trouble. meeting today with the taliban >> yeah, i mean, listen, right at camp david. the president's announcement is citing a taliban attack that now joe biden is managing killed a u.s. soldier came last expectations, which i think, is a very, very smart thing to do. night in a tweet. the secretary of state mike and he's essentially trying to pompeo a short time ago message, hey, listen, this is not going to be like other years explaining. >> we have had a commitment from where you have to win iowa or the taliban that said that they would break with al qaeda win new hampshire and south carolina. and he recognizes he may very publicly and permanently and a well not do that. commitment that they would do that is the recognition of the this for the first time and you simple fact these inside know this, george, in the baseball caucuses, particularly administration to get the in iowa and what you see in new afghans to sit together at the hampshire, are really a parade table, and commitment to meet in of a very committed few voters oslo to begin the who come out and who are really reconciliation, and then the engaged. these are high-level party taliban overreached and killed

an american in leverage for the activists, super engaged citizens. negotiating table, and the president trump said enough. joe biden says i have the most name recognition, i'm ahead in the polls and that may not be >> and so there is a lot to unpack here, and welcome to you, mike. what's the most democratic that timing, location, and all of come to the caucuses in iowa. that, and what can you tell us not the primaries but the about the story? >> and good afternoon to you, caucuses. that's an important distinction. he's trying to manage aleck. expectations saying i'm in the long run. a l and a lot of people are upset by super tuesday we'll see my lead in the national polls reflected in the overall about the close proximity of delegate count. >> all of this paints a picture camp david here, and the site of of a three-person race. so much history and the people is it fair to say that's what it are raising the eyebrows that is down to now? the president would consider >> it seems to be that way, inviting the taliban there of alex. we see warren really gaining a all groups three days before the lot of steam. anniversary of 9/11, and the and i think that looking at the taliban harboring al qaeda and economy, thakfnkfully not in a osama bin laden in afghanistan recession but if we roll into prior to the attacks. one next year, you'll see warren a lot the unpack here, and you rise to the top and i think are right, the president revealing last night this secret bumping off bernie sanders and eventually becoming a two-person negotiation according to the president's tweet to be held at race. the question is, where is the camp david with the taliban three days before 9/11 only support from the pete called off when the president decided that thursday's at buttigiegs, kamala harris,

attack that killed 12 people near the u.s. embassy near kabul bookers go? the debate, which we'll have in and resulted in the death of an a couple of days, will be so american serviceman was reason key. i can see, i'm crystal enough to call it off. balancing, it may be narrowing and various reports that ashraf down to biden and warren. abgani who was invited and he is >> the poll also looked at the president of afghanistan was enthusiasm. democrats in those early states, upset about the meeting. he didn't want to come. pretty enthusiasm about warren. and secretary of state mike mostly so looking at 46% there. pompeo, and you played a sound bite from him there, and he was sanders had 38%. there at dover air force base biden was tied with harris at early this morning for the 29%. how significant is that? >> you know, i continue to go to dignified transfer of army first the extremely localized polling. class angel baretta, the i want to know what folks are individual killed and then he talking about in iowa and south went on the sunday public carolina, new hampshire and affairs program and responded to nevada. those have been consistently the criticism of the president's distinctly different from what plan to have this meeting at camp david. we see in the national overall polling. i believe cory booker will do a >> i know the history of camp david, too. whole lot better than what we and there are discussion of see in national polling. peace there, too, and some bad i believe kamala harris will win actors have traveled throughout that place throughout the south carolina, if not be recorded history and important place and important place that we thought that we could

convince all of the leaders of extremely competitive with joe biden in north carolina. this is a race for delegates and it's time to start moving away from national polling and get to the localized scenarioed. in the localized scenarios, i think it's a free-for-all. afghan, and president ba gaganid we'll see a strong performance the other people to secure from castro, strong performances from booker. i actually disagree with my colleague. i think it's going to be more security in their nations. >> and so he stands behind than a three-er. resolute support. and one thing that he told our race. >> mark sanford jumping in. will we be talking about him or own chuck todd on "meet the press" now that the talks have not so much? >> i think we definitely are tallen apart and no plans to pick them up, then cotext is compared to someone like walsh. that they have been going on for i think sanford has incredible more than a year with the trump voting record on conservativism, administration, and the talks with the taliban and things had incredible record as former come to a head and coming to governor of south carolina. reach a resolution, and perhaps there will be an interesting gu. why they were going to camp thank you so much. david, but pompeo says that the shermichael, daon, victoria. talks are off and he doesn't know when they will start again the story behind "justice and the taliban is going to be for all," lester holt's special. led by more american-led attacks in the coming days. >> and thank you for setting us how the policies created to make up on a further conversation on america safe may have done

exactly the opposite. that. and now joining us is laura bas it is, and charlie from t"the nw york times", and what is striking you most about this? >> the deal of getting the american serviceman out of captivity and obama sent five do you have concerns about mild memory loss related to aging? members to qatar and the group that the administration has been prevagen is the number one pharmacist-recommended working with that led up to this memory support brand. you can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. aborted meeting in camp david. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. and half the country lost its mind to dealing with qatar big dreams start with small steps... leadership, and now the bring this without any for mall ...but dedication can get you there. easily set, track and control your goals agreemeing -- right from the chase mobile® app. formal agreement and pompeo was saying that it would be a chase. make more of what's yours®. historic, and nonhistoric liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, hmm. exactly. so you only pay for what you need.

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the head of the taliban, correct? they were going to conduct separate talks, and that is the plan? >> tremendous reluctance by president gani to be involved at all and he is tremendously little fleet. big relief. try it. feel it. at verizon, we're building the most powerful objected to the talks in doha, 5g experience for america. that's why the nfl chose verizon. because he wants the country to survive even if the u.s. pulls out, and the taliban wants to because they need the massive capacity of 5g with ultra wideband, wait out the united states and so more screaming, streaming, posting fans... then take back over, and so the whole thing is extremely can experience 5g all at once. fraught. >> laura, a big issue is timing this is happening in 13 stadiums all across the country. here, because the trump administration cited that deadly now if verizon 5g can do this for the nfl... bombing in kabul for the reason imagine what it can do for you. that it was canceled even though there has been a series of attacks before, that and is the kabul bombing the whole reason behind stopping the talks? >> i would be highly surprised, woman 1: i had no symptoms of hepatitis c. man 1: mine... man 1: ...caused liver damage. because the bombing that we are talking about happened thursday vo: epclusa treats all main types of chronic hep c. and then late saturday afternoon vo: whatever your type, trump announced that he was ask your doctor if epclusa is your kind of cure. canceling the talks. and also the timing of this is woman 2: i had the common type. the week of 9/11 and i agree man 2: mine was rare. with charlie that it is purely a vo: epclusa has a 98% overall cure rate. p.r. stunt and he wanted the

man 3: i just found out about my hepatitis c. woman 3: i knew for years. vo: epclusa is only one pill, once a day, taken with p.r. tphoto-op to say i did or without food for 12 weeks. something that obama did not do vo: before starting epclusa, your doctor will test which is peace with the taliban. if you have had hepatitis b, which may flare up, and so they are still supporting 9/11, so to have them at camp and could cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. david is extraordinarily strange vo: tell your doctor if you have had hepatitis b, thing. i think that everyone is right to pointing out that if obama other liver or kidney problems, hiv, or other medical conditions... had done this as a p.r. stunt and gotten an american soldier vo: ...and all medicines you take, including herbal supplements. killed in the process, he would vo: taking amiodarone with epclusa be immediately impeached. may cause a serious slowing of your heart rate. >> and i want to get to the vo: common side effects include headache and tiredness. other top stories of politics, and hours before congress turns vo: ask your doctor today, to recess and new developments if epclusa is your kind of cure. as house democrats would have declared military spending is profiting the president's properties. my colleague, lester holt, the administration has confirmed anchor of "nbc nightly news" is that military experts have stayed at his resorts. wrapping up the justice for all they say that the layover in project, it's a months-long investigation on criminal trump resort was least expensive justice reform. he held a town hall meeting option, and the trump organization says it charged the taped inside new york's national

military discounted rates and the profits were returned to the security prison. it's airing tonight on msnbc. he spent two nights behind bars federal government. and second top story on the in a louisiana state penitentiary cell, penitentiary cell, we should say, notoriously so-called sharpie controversy as the media continues to talk known as angola, to shed light about it, and he keeps tweeting on the need for more about it, and the washington rehabilitation programs. joining me now, the other nbc post has obtained a internal staffer who spent two nights in the cell right next door to lester. dan, supervising producer at administration said that noaa were warned not the contradict "dateline." i should tell folks you and i the president. started talking, we have a few the weather service is telling minutes to get to this, we could nbc news that the directive made talk over dinner -- >> we could probably talk for a no specific reference to the month and a half. >> a month and a half about president, but the internal guidance came after the this. talk about this fascinating new president set off the piece that you have, what you controversy and a noaa discovered about the american culture, when if comes to the meteorologist said it referred prison population, how it has to the president internally. and this is the first time from changed over the last 40 years. >> well, i've been studying pressure of above of what is criminal justice reform and truly not the forecast. doing studies for two decades. i kind of knew what the system chuck todd asked roy blunt here looked like but the vera whether the president is politicizing the weather institute for justice takes service. >> this whole sharpie thing is delegations of top criminal justice professionals over to being way overplayed and it is germany and norway to tour not going to matter election day prisons there.

and it does not matter to most i was lucky enough to go on that people. >> are you worried about that trip last year. what i saw there floored me. it was a completely different the credibility of the president kind of system and it was rooted of the united states has been in two words. human dignity. in fact, in 1949, germany eroded? >> no. >> the machinery of being prepare for a storm like this. rewrote its constitution to write -- and wrote in the rights and two takeaways. >> and new today, south carolina of prisoners into their constitution because they had faced the legacy of the governor mark sanford has said holocaust, something we've never done in this country when it that he is running against president trump and he is a ko comes to slavery. third republican with a long over there what just is unbelievable to see is the power of that. shot for the nomination. do you see an impact for sanford when it comes to even guards for the run here? calling inmates by their names. is the role more disruptor >> shaking their hands. >> shaking their hands. potentially taking away the >> i couldn't believe that when i read that. >> shaking their hands in the republican votes from trump or morning. a good day over there for a something more to it? >> well, there is no chance that corrections officer is to help someone not come back to prison. a good day here is to go home safe. >> yeah. >> it's a completely different -- >> and not coming back to prison in germany and norway, you got 95% of the population over there behind bars, they will be allowed to return to society. how much is there a level of recidivism there? >> actually, 95% of everyone in the united states will get out

he is going to win thenominatio of prison, too. when it comes to recidivism, meaning when people get out, will they come back to prison, don't believe that he even he the recidivism rates there are thinks that he has a shot at it, dramatically lower particularly and with three republicans trying to primary challenge the in far wnorway than in the unit president is an effort by the states. remnants of the old republican we see this as -- you commit a party, the pre-trump republican crime, lock you up, throw away the key. it is punitive. party to say number one, we still exist, and maybe to lay it is -- we incapacitate people the groundwork for a post-trump without giving them a chance. republican party where they can very often, to rehabilitate, to portray trump as an aberration make then better neighbors. rather than the culmination of but they are going to get out the changes in the party if and what we're doing, in many there is a moment of reckoning. ways, the system is pathological because what we're doing is we're putting people in prison the one big question for all of for really long prison these guys is of course, that they will be fractured to the sentences. in germany, roughly 80% of the people convicted of a crime get extent that they might have a chance of defeating trump in a fine. some state some where with more about 70% of the people here in the united states go to prison. and more of them, they will be if they're convicted of a crime. dividing the anti-trump vote, it's a completely opposite in terms of the way we think about and with a larger field of it. so if we're going to take these people, put them behind bars and challengers helps the president, and of course, the republican party is uniting around him in lock them away for years, and all of them, mostly all of them are coming out, how do you want mark stanford's own state, and those people to come back out? you want them to come out

they said they won't have a rehabilitated and better neighbors or come back out primary vote and hand the delegates to trump in the first violent? place. and so for the right of the >> the former for sure. dan slepian, it's absolutely center challenges to trump is that once he does resecure the fascinating. nomination, do they drop out or people have got to read what you wrote about it and watch. it's going be an extraordinary do they try to set up a third-party challenge in the segment. we want all of you to join us. general election, and that could >> thank you for having me, have big implications for alex. >> catch the "dateline" special centrist people who don't want trump to be re-elected but might "life inside" on msnbc followed be reluctant to vote for the by lester holt's town hall on democrat, and once again, they criminal justice reform, 10:00 could help the president to be p.m. eastern on msnbc, well worth your time. decimation in the bahamas. re-elected if they did. >> laura, i want your reaction the search for victims and the rush to help 70,000 people who are now homeless. to the story that they had a of once-weekly ozempic®. layover to the trump property in scotland and is that accurate? in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults >> another official within the lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c air force told the reporter that it is very unusual. of less than 7 and maintained it. i think it is. oh! under 7? the people who stayed at that (announcer) and you may lose weight. scottish resort said they didn't in the same one-year study, have the money in per diem to adults lost on average up to 12 pounds. afford food and drinks at the oh! up to 12 pounds? resort. they said they felt out of place (announcer) a two-year study showed that ozempic® does not increase the risk of major cardiovascular events there. it is very strange, and very like heart attack, stroke, or death. corrupt for a u.s. president to

oh! no increased risk? use the u.s. military to prop up (announcer) ozempic® should not be the first medicine his failing business property. for treating diabetes, or for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. this is corruption in plain sight, and something should be done about it. do not share needles or pens. >> and it is certainly going to be investigated and talked about don't reuse needles. on capitol hill for sure. do not take ozempic® if you have a personal and laura and charlie, thank you or family history of medullary thyroid cancer, so much, and we will see you multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to ozempic®. both. and now, dorian going to stop taking ozempic® and get medical help right away eastern canada and a it is if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, downgraded to the post tropical severe stomach pain, itching, rash, or trouble breathing. cyclo cyclone, but it is packing a punch with winds up to 80 miles per hour, and heavy winds serious side effects may happen, knocking out power for 300,000 including pancreatitis. people in nova scotia overnight, tell your doctor if you have diabetic retinopathy and meanwhile, the bahamas has or vision changes. to remain in recovery with the taking ozempic® with a sulfonylurea or insulin may increase the risk for low blood sugar. common side effects are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, nonrelief crews setting up camps there. and the u.n. says at least stomach pain, and constipation. 70,000 bahamians are homeless some side effects can lead to dehydration, and of that number, 6,000 are which may worsen kidney problems. i discovered the potential with ozempic®. still unaccounted for or considered missing. ♪ oh! oh! oh! ozempic®! ♪ nbc's cal perry is joining us from on the ground there in the (announcer) if eligible, you may pay as little as $25 per prescription. bahamas, and beleaguered picture to be sure. ask your health care provider today what is the latest there?

>> listen, i think that the about once-weekly ozempic®. country has been through one major disaster and trying to avoid another one with people still on the outer islands. i am royalty of racing, i am the twisting thundercloud. two islands in specifically abaco island and grand bahama where we have seen the most raise your steins to the king of speed. devastation, and the land just really stripped of everything. there is not even shelter there for people to take from the obviously very incredibly hot sun. where i am in nassau, this is the base of operations trying to get equipment and supplies out to islands and the goal here on behalf of the bahamian government is to get the people off of the islands. they dot no want the people on the islands and they want them cleared and get the debris removed and get some of the infrastructure back, and there is none. and quick update from the coast guard, these numbers as of 9:00 a.m., the u.s. coast guard has but we're also a cancer fighting, rescued over 300 people, and they have five helicopters in the air, and 24 hours a day hiv controlling, providing search and rescue and joint replacing, and depression relieving company. as well as five of those from the day you're born cutters, the navy-type cutters we never stop taking care of you.

that are out there trying to service the island. and the more noise that you hear behind me, the better the news is to get the helicopters out of nassau and to the islands is a bureaucratic nightmare, but it is starting to move now. and we are five days after this storm, and we are finally seeing a breakthrough on what was a logjam of getting those supplies out to islands. the story that is developing here is of haitian immigrants. and people who were undocumented, es p esh will i on that e -- especially on the island of abaco and the haitians living in the shanty towns which is the area that people are most concerned about, and alex, talking about the folks undocumented the government has to start from scratch with the search and rescues and create some system to processing the people through and get them to the place where they can be safe and have water and have food, alex. >> yeah, hey, cal, in termings of the hope, it has been classified recovery operation and still an element of rescue

to it one week later? we are on the line in between the two, but frankly, i think it is a recovery operation now. talking to reporters on the ground and our kerry sanders is saying that the smell of death is just overwhelming, and so unfortunately, i think that it is the recovery operation now. >> it is 70,000 missing or unaccounted for. it is horrific to say the least. okay. cal perry, thank you so much from nassau. who is checking in, and how often? "the new york times" is revealing big numbers about the top officials frequenting president trump's properties. so i can buy from enterprise car sales and you'll take any trade-in? that's right! great! here you go...

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. >> does this mean that the talks are off completely? >> for time being that is absolutely the case. if you are the taliban the conditions are worse inning and about to be worse. we will make sure that everyone in the region understands that america is going to protect their national security interests. >> that is secretary of state mike pompeo saying that the president is going to cancel negotiations with taliban at camp david today, and the press secretary says that they cancelled the meeting because the taliban claimed responsibility for and at atta that killed a u.s. soldier. and now, let's welcome in congressman in charge of the infrastructure commit dees. and welcome, and your reaction to the administration calling off negotiations with the taliban pand planning and plann with the taliban today at camp

david and the taliban today at camp david? >> well, it is a strange ne foeshation fr ati negoschation from the start. and we have been in afghanistan long enough, but at the same time it is a great concern that it could become a haven for terrorists once again, but here is the thing that we had no idea that the congress didn't know what was going on, and the current afghan government didn't know what the negotiations were, and they were one-sided between our diplomat and the taliban. fortunately the house foreign affairs committee finally decided that we need to know what is going on here, and asked for specific information, and now everything seems to be on hold or perhaps terminated. in any case, to do all of this on the day of 9/11 or the run up to 9/11 seems to me to be very, very bad for him. >> yeah. if you expect that these will be

rez ekt asurrected or what is t criteria to have them resurrected? >> well, the negotiation involves the current afghan government and apparently not happening, and that is all one sided america and the taliban and the current government left out. and also, clearly, you have to have the buy-in of the pakistani government and at least the awareness of the communities and the countries surrounding afghanistan and that was not apparently taking place. so, take a deep breath, because we must continue to find a negotiated settlement, and certainly it will involve the taliban, but it has to involve the other players. >> okay. let's move to the air force and having confirmed a layover at the president's resort in scotland and this is what they write. in a statement while we are still reviewing the trip records we have found nothing that falls outside of the guidelines of

selecting the airport and routes for travel accommodation, and give n your expertise with the armed services committee, is that assurance that there is no co-operation of the president ad the armed forces to curry favor for the president or if this is falling outside of the guidelines? are you going to investigate? >> i said, we are not mushrooms and you will not keep us in the dark, and you will not feed us blank, blank. you to provide up to date current and accurate information. there is a phone call tomorrow morning by this chairman to the secretary of the air force secretary and the acting as well as to the chief of staff general mcgold fooen of what is going on here, and give us the specific information and we need to know, and everything that i have seen, and everything that i have heard indicates that this is totally

outside of the normal process, and it is wrong and it is clearly enriching the president, and there is no doubt about it. he says that i will give back the profits. there are no profits at this particular resort in scotland and in other places. >> because he had offered reduced rates for the military, right? >> can i ask you about the specifics that you have asked and answered if any. >> well, we are going to find out tomorrow. i will not be stonewalled. the president can stonewall other, but i am telling the military, that you don't stonewall this chairman and it is not going to happen. you will give us the information and now and not later and not tomorrow or next year, but now. what is going on here. and apparently, there are other indications that this is more routine than we would want to have happen. >> okay. sounds like somebody has to buckle up and getting in front of that committee tomorrow. >> tomorrow is an interesting day. >> and so, one last topic here. do you think that the president

either ordered or threw a proxy to have them stay at my resort. is that possible? >> it is possible. we will find out. you don't lie to congress. if we have to have the generals and the acting secretaries under oath in, don't lie to us how this most unusual stop in scotland occur and perhaps multiple times, and other things going on around the world wherever trump has the properties, and are we finding the military staying on those properties and in other words transferring the taxpayers' dollars directly into the president's pocket, and that is corruption, and gross corruption, and maybe not just the military involved here, and there are other agencies of the government that are frequenting the trump resorts. of course, the doral situation

in florida where the president is trying to get the g-7 summit to participate in florida. the result of all of that is that it is emollients, and that is foreign governments enriching the president and lining his pockets, and it is a flat-out contradiction of the constitution, and it is a -- >> yeah. >> it is a basis for impeachment. >> and one question that you will be asking is the extent to which these particular prompts have been visited and patronized by government and military officials prior to the president taking over to the white house. and that is a good question. and now, to diversion of $3.6 million of these as we are looking at them 127 military projects to build the border wall, and mexico is not paying for the wall as the president promised, the military is. and so what can congress do to besides fight the president in court? >> well, we are going to do

everything, and it is possible to put a stop to this. the military insulations around the world are the responsibility of the house armed services committee and the readiness subcommittee and meaning the fellow on television in front of you, and we are simply going to put all of this out into the public, and we will call in the various secretaries, and army/navy/marines and air force and have them explain why this is in the interest of the national security that these projects and many of them in eastern europe where we have specifically over the last five years been pushing back against putin, and putin's incursion into crimea and the ukraine as well as a very, very serious threat to estonia and latvia and lithuania and poland and these are number one national security issues and money is ripped out

of projects in those countries, and so, mr. secretary, what is going on here? why is that more important to build a border wall that most people think it is not effective in dealing with the current situation of people coming from the triangles in the central america, so why? what is happening here? what is the authority? and finally, and sheer the critical point. we have to take back the power of congress. we cannot allow the national defense authorization act to go to the president without sir couple vision dr circumventions of the defense authorization act and until we get back the power of the purse, then so be it. >> you have a lot on the agenda this week. and safe travels back to washington. >> indeed we do. >> congressman john garamendi.

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president trump and who is visiting his property. at least 90 members of congress have been seen in 188 visits to a trump property. 26 of whom were republican senators. 250 trump administration officials have been seen making more than 630 visits and that is including 24 of the 32 officials who have served in the president's cabinet. and more than 100 officials from nearly 60 different foreign governments have also been to a trump property since 2017. let's bring in abdul al say yesterdasayed, and republican strategist susan del percio, and republican strategist rayna shaw. and what is so surprising about these numbers and what is motivating people to go make these trips to his properties? >> well, it is not surprising at

all, because we know that the president is transactional and he is hiring sycophants and stick up to say, i was at one of the facilities and one of the ways to get in the good graces and not to mention that the trump hotel in washington, d.c., is where many people hold court and the amount of people, cabnet officials that are there on the daily basis including his two sons is crazy. so there is a lot of money spent there as well, and let's not forget that is the space that is rented from us, the taxpayers. >> i have heard some thursday night trump cocktail party or the gathering of the trump fans and the influential types get together, and anyway, there is that. and abdul, is this inevitable of the outcome of a businessman as president, and after all, what did they sign off, he was a businessman and a reality tv star that was voted into office. he was not a politician, and so,

should people just have expected this? >> i don't think it is inevitable, because saying it is inevitable would buy him out of the responsibility he has to make sure that he is protecting we, the taxpayer of the main official of the american government, and the fact is that this is a man who demands a certain level of loyalty as he calls it and the version of loyalty is moving from my hotel and move your money from your pockets into mine, and that is the level of loyalty that he comes to running government, and the expectations of the senators and the others staying at his hotel. it is a certain level of corruption that we have tacitly allowed. we need to stand up, and congress needs to stand up saying enough is enough, and emollients clause matter ins the constitution and the founding fathers wrote it for a reason, and it is our job if he is not. >> and is this the new normal? >> well, it is becoming that, alex. i have been so worried about it for a long time and in 2016 i

had a sense talking to republicans out west and in the south and the mid-atlantic reason that they wanted trump to be trump and that meant letting him do what he needed to do to serve the american people as he said on the campaign trail, and this is about you and putting the country first, but in reality what we are seeing now, and vast evidence of is that the president continues to enrich himself and his family off of the american presidency, and we have to continue saying it and find new ways to say it. we can't use the big words to it is a, and it is elementary what i am saying, but as i go out the have the plain conversations with the trump voters to imploring them who are thinking of voting for him again, and what are you not seeing the reality of it, and this guy is getting rich and it is the military dollars now and the taxpayer dollars he is misusing and that i say it is part and parcel and politicians have been doing it in dark of night in washington, and so we have to be creative in how we talk to the trump voters and i say we, those

who have remained in the republican party and remain concerned about the president's behavior. >> what does he have to do to remedy all of this? >> well, the first thing that he could do, and well, he should have done is to put himself out of the equation and put the money in a blind trust and he refused to do that and so we have to say that the president should not be able to benefit in office on people spending money. the people try to figure out a way to get on someone's good side, and it has happened in politics and that is true, but this is a direct payment or payoff to the president. >> abdul, if you are looking at sort of the last week in the other stories about all of this with relative to the trump businesses, and okay. here is what we have. we have the weekend learning about the air force crew that stayed at the scottish resort and several days ago that vice president pence stayed in the resort in ireland and 185 miles away from the dublin meetings that were located there.

i mean, the remarkable, and just not a hotel in dublin, and the president is still interested in hosting the g7 at his doral resort and attorney general bill barr who billed $30,000 at the president's d.c. hotel for a holiday party and what has happened to avoiding the appearance of conflicts of interest or does this now pass for transparency, because we know it is happening? >> well, alex, you are right. right. we are in a moment right now where we are allowing this administration plain facedly to get away with this. and i also want to push back and think about all of the other stuff that is happening in the world right now, and the fact that this president had president obama tried to pull thauf stunt to bring the taliban to the united states the week before 9/11 and if he had pulled it off mayhem. and that plus the fact that he had accelerated the trade war that is tanking the economy for people in low income and

manufacturing like in my home state of michigan, he is playing the game, because he knows that we are talking about this and pushing forward on the policies that are hurting people. it is part of ttoof the culture theedthe ed a -- administration to get away from what is causing pain to people in this country. congress has to hold him accountable. >> so, we are talking about it rana, and for all of the trips around trump properties, duoes t make it any better? >> well, the conversations are tough, because we have been talking about how this president do this or that or the other and boldfaced laws. the new york times is reporting that the military spent over $17 million on fueling at the airport in the previous reported $11 million. numbers are not making sense

when we have these arguments because they are layered on top of one another, and we are talking about the flagrant disregard for the constitution. and that is the deficit of the americans thinking about things ark and we have not had good civic education in the country, and taking it back to the constitution, and the very things that the republicans have used for years to talk about why we deserve their vote. why are we not talk about that when we are talking about trump. the more we continue the conversation of the direction of not normalizing it, we have to use the things like the power of the constitution and simplify the arguments and that is the only way to cover any ground and get closer to holding trump accountable in the public sphere. >> thank you very much for the conversation. much appreciated. coming up next, the stunning report on the treatment of migrant children in the u.s. detention centers and the mental anguish that they are suffering. lease the 2019 es 350 for $379 a month for 36 months.

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a new inspector general report is giving shocking detail of the mental health trauma of the migrant children separated from their parents at the border. the health and human services inspector interviewed the workers who spoke to the migrant children. and joining me is the director of hispanics and philanthropy, nancy. and so, nancy this is heartbreaking and you have been to the border several times and

you have been in detention center for one time and i wanted you to share what you saw the signs of, and what you saw would back up the evidence in the report while you were there. >> well, most definitely. the things that i saw for someone who is a former educator were crushing. and for someone who has worked with children for a large part of my career, it seems like some of the things that we were doing not only were unnecessary, and just common sense things. you have children who are already traumatized from whatever situation they are coming from told by the parents where they are going to a place where they are safer and they are further traumatized. ripped from their parents arms and for anyone who has small children, you know the anxiety that causes when you are away from the parents too much, and think of when you leave your kid for the babysitter for the first time, and so these babies are alone and the children are often going to have other children they don't know trying to take care of them, because the facilities lack the staff that they need and they lack the

trained staff that is necessary to care for the needs of young children, not to mention the ig's report found that we have people without previous background checks or sufficient training or any other support treating children who are already traumatized and add to that, the many, many accounts of the sexual abuse that have been reported coming out of some of the detention centers. >> so within these impressionable young minds of the kids there is any number of thoughts going through them and the most heartbreaking is that some of them think that the parents have abandoned them and you are talking about people who don't have the training to deal with that and a, to recognize it or to help them to put it in proper perspective and also this, which is what one mental health worker said about a 7 or 8 boy. it is a child under the delusion that his father had been killed and he would also be killed and he ultimately got to the point where he required emergency

mental psychiatric care to address this, and he is 7 or 8 years old and can you imagine what this played out with the child at the heart of this. >> and i wondered how long it took for anybody to recognize that he was in this much distress, because the facilities are overcrowded and without the sufficiently trained staff that we need to take care of children. we argue in the u.s. that more than 12 children in a u.s. is too much for a children, and we are talking about hundreds of children caged together with no direct care. so how long did it take for this baby's needs to be met, and then who took care of him? so the reality for us is that i thank the oig, because if we recall correctly, they are the ones who put out the report that showed the pictures of the deplorable conditions. and they are doing, and give credit where it is due, they are doing what we expect of the government officials, identifying the facts objectively and speaking the truth and tell us that we must take action and the problem is that nobody is taking action

right now. in one of the facilities, i will say that my biggest concern was the way that the children were talked about. they were talked about as if they were objects. that is very concerning to someone like me, and it should be concerning to any parent who has had that horrible feeling of having to drop their kid off at day care for the first time and worried about their safety and imagine this. this is not only what the children are going through thinking that the parents are never coming back, but parents on the other side desperate to know something about their children. >> do you think that the inspector general report is going to change anything? >> i hope it changes at least the minds and the hearts of the american people. i think that those first set of pictures they released did something to us as a country. it forced us to look at the ugly truth and i am hoping that the next level of report helps people now understand that we are intentionally harming children. we know better. we must do better. but we have not been called out on the fact that we are

intentionally doing wrong with the children, and this report helps to identify that. for me particularly, the insufficient attention that is being paid to the children's mental health care is my biggest concern right now, and what are we conversation. i applaud all of your efforts. keep them up. thank you. >> thank you very much. a startling new 2020 survey. warren up, but who's down? might this be the most accurate polling results yet? hmm. exactly. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need.

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now to contenders 2020 where a new poll shows elizabeth warren is rising in popularity. early voting states prefer warren over her competitors at all holding a one-point lead with 26% over sanders at 26%. warren at 27% in new hampshire behind 26% with biden and sanders at 25%. iowa polling tells a different story. biden keeps his lead with 29%, three ahead of sanders and 12

above warren. this comes a day after the candidates were speaking in new hampshire but advisers have downplayed the need to win for joe biden in iowa and new hampshire. why do they see these two states as not a must win for him? >> it's not necessarily they don't see it as a must win. they're just seeing it now as two states that are going to be very competitive. they see this election actually going on past the early primary states. in a call with reporters earlier this week, one top adviser actually called it a dog fight, saying that is what they're expecting and even named senator elizabeth warren and senator bernie sanders as two people they are expecting not to drop out any time soon and to make it through that long haul. of course, even though they're not seeing iowa or new hampshire necessarily as states to win right now, they are still very much prioritizing them. biden has gone to iowa and new hampshire.

the most out of any other state he has visited. actually, when he goes to iowa, usually starts off his stump speech by saying, you all hold the keys to the kingdom given iowa is the first indicator of what democratic voters may actually vote for. of course, the story is a little different here in new hampshire where we have been seeing senator elizabeth warren and bernie sanders, who neighbors of the state already being rewarded, topping those polls you mentioned and also other ones previously. >> can i ask you about something joe biden said at a fund-raiser in massachusetts last night. according to a pew report it said he's quoted as saying, politicians think less about the middle class. what can you tell us about those comments? >> so, the vice president really his constituency, a group he has always catered to and he says listened to is the forgotten middle class. he said even before the election that, listen, in 2016 democrats

didn't listen to those voters necessarily. that those people felt forgotten and they felt compelled to vote for someone like president donald trump. at that fund-raiser in boston last night, he said we, talking about politicians in general, assume these people are stupid. they're scared to death about actually losing their jobs because these are truckers, people who work in mechanics who in just a couple years technology could take their jobs away. so, biden continues to talk to this crowd saying, we need to hear them out. we need to listen to them. we can't forget them. >> good to get the proper context from you. thank you. stormy daniels wants to testify at a house committee hearing on hush money payments. will she be called? i'll ask judiciary committee ted lieu about that and the president's canceled secret taliban talks scheduled for today.

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will they call this key witness? good day from msnbc world headquarters here in new york, welcome to "weekends with alex witt." we begin with breaking news, the trump administration canceling a secret meeting skenled with the taliban at taliban today. here's what secretary of state mike pompeo said this morning about it. >> we've had a commitment from the taliban that said they would break with al qaeda publicly and permanently. we had a commitment that said they would reduce violence. for the first time, as you know, you were in administration, to try to get afghans to sit at the table. we had a commitment they would meet in oslo. then the taliban overreached. they killed an american in an effort to gain leverage at the negotiating table and president trump said enough. >> nbc's mike viqueira at the white house with more on this. very much of a surprise this announcement here from the president. so, walk us through what

happened. >> reporter: right. we knew they were close to some sort of agreement, these negotiations between the trump administration and the taliban have been going on outside the united states. principally in doha, qatar, for the last year. we knew the president had met in new jersey during his vacation there last month, gathering his top national security advisers, including the vice president, to talk about afghanistan. we knew they were close. the president's chief negotiator with the taliban had said so publicly. what we didn't know, and we didn't know until the president revealed it in those tweets late yesterday, is that there was to be this secret meeting with taliban representatives at camp david atop that mountainside retreat in western maryland, the presidential retreat, with the taliban ashraf gohani, was to b there and not meet with taliban negotiators. we don't know if they were going to sign something there. we don't know what was in the

works. we do know the president said he called it off because of the attack the taliban carried out last thursday near the u.s. embassy in kabul where one u.s. serviceman was killed. his name is army sergeant first class ortiz. the secretary of state, mike pompeo, went to the dignified transfer ceremony just this morning in neighboring delaware at dover air force base in dover to see the remains of sergeant ortiz come back to the united states, baretta ortiz, i should say. then he appeared on the sunday morning talk shows including on "meet the press" with our chuck todd. he said, now that these talks are off, the taliban better watch out. >> they fear the taliban conditions have been worsening and they're about to get worse. >> okay. you say about to get worse. so, yao you are going to -- does this mean we are going to increase the military activity against the taliban? >> we're going to make sure that everyone in the region understands that america will always protect its national

security interests. i'll leave it to the department of defense to talk about specifics, but no one should underestimate president trump's commitment to achieving those goals. >> and, alex, there are 14,000 american troops still 18 years later fighting that war in afghanistan, supporting the nato mission of resolute support. one other big controversy about all this we should mention is the location, camp david, really peace talks way back in the carter administration that resulted in that historic agreement. sort of a hallowed location. a lot of people raising eyebrows about hosting the taliban at camp david. >> let's discuss this with ted lieu from california. he's also an air force veteran. nice to see you, congressman. thanks for joining me. what about this is most concerning to you, that the administration called off the negotiations with the taliban, that they did so supposedly when the talks were going so well, that it was announced on

twitter, the fact there was a secret meeting set with camp david with the taliban and afghan president, all these issues mike viqueira just brought up. what is most significant to you? >> thank you for that question. it is unseemly for the president to invite the taliban to camp david during the week of 9/11. however, we do need to negotiate with the taliban. we've been in afghanistan for 18 years. we have to withdrew. i don't see why we need to continue risking soldiers' lives and an area with a lot of money. what's most concerning is this president cannot achieve a deal because nobody trusts him. he can't get a deal with china. can't get a deal with north carolina. now he can't get a deal with the taliban. that's most concerning to me. >> here's something from secretary of state mike pompeo who says whether a break in negotiations means it would take longer to withdrew troops from afghanistan. >> timetables are difficult. i hope not.

i hope we can begin to enter afghanistan negotiations. i hope we can reduce the violence. i hope taliban continues to move forward with their break from al qaeda. >> where do you stand on withdrewing troops from afghanistan? some of these 14,000 forces, should some at least remain in afghanistan even in a peace deal is reached? if so, in what capacity? >> donald trump's campaign on getting out of endless wars has failed. there are more troops in afghanistan now than when he first took office. i believe we should withdraw from afghanistan. we have soldiers there who are toddlers at the time we started the afghan war. if we can't win this after 18 years, there's no indication we're going to win this after another 18 years. we need to withdraw our troops. we need to focus on domestic priorities -- health care, infrastructure, getting rid of corruption in the white house. that's what we should be focused on. >> do we have a full accounting of what these troops are actually doing in afghanistan?

. >> that is a great question. one of the issues i've had on the foreign affairs committee, not just on afghanistan but really a lot hot spots around the world, we don't know what the administration's strategy is. and even now, we don't actually know what is the administration trying to achieve in afghanistan, what is their desire in state and how do our troops help get us there and so the president has to come before the american people and explain what the heck we're still doing there. >> as you know, when it comes to reaching a peace deal, it's difficult. but it can be more difficult in ensuring whatever deal is reached is put into effect. what are the challenges of that? >> one of the problems when you have a president that lies all the time is it's not just americans that no longer trust him, it's also people around the world. so, again, he has not been able to negotiate any deals with north korea, with china, now with the taliban. our allies no longer trust this

president. that makes it very difficult for this administration to operate. i actually think he pulled the plug on this secret meeting because he believed nothing was going to be achieved. the taliban has been doing all sorts of attacks in afghanistan. not sure why he picked this one attack over other attacks to pull the plug on this meeting. >> congressman lieu, stay with us, sir, because you and your colleagues are returning to congress tomorrow with a packed agenda. we'll go through it here, which includes the military profiting from the president's profits. they have confirmed the military have stayed at the trump resort in scotland. they say the stopover in the u.s. air force was not unusual. last hour i asked a democrat in the armed services committee whether he fears the military may be helping the president make money. >> everything i've seen, everything i've heard indicates

that this is totally outside normal process. it is wrong. it is clearly enriching the president. there is no doubt about it. you don't lie to congress. and if we have to have the generals and the secretaries acting or otherwise in under oath, don't lie to us. how did it come about that this most unusual stop in scotland occurred? and, perhaps, multiple times. >> also new today, new reporting on the so-called sharpie controversy which the president tweeted about again yesterday. "the washington post" has obtained an internal email from the national oceanic administration or noaa. staffers were warned want to provide any opinions. the national weather service tells nbc news that directive made no specific reference to the president but the internal guidance came after the president set off the controversy and a noaa meteorologist tells the post it was understand internally to refer to the president.

that meteorologist adds, quote, this is the first time i've felt pressure from above not to truly say what is the forecast. we asked roy blount whether trump is politicizing the weather service. >> this whole sharpie thing is way being overplayed. i don't think it will matter election day. i don't think it matters to most people. >> are you worried about the credibility of the president of the united states has been eroded? >> no. >> back with me, congressman ted lieu. look, when it comes to the weather, do we have to put this in perspective of an election? doesn't it matter to people finding out if there's dangerous weather heading their way, finding out an accurate assessment of what's coming their way so they can prepare? >> that's a great point. what actually caused the weather forecasters in birmingham, alabama, to contradict the president is they started getting all these calls from people in alabama who were sort of freaked out that a hurricane was going to strike them when they knew at that time that

hurricane dorian was nowhere near alabama. i think people who stand up to the president and the weather service should be promoted. they should not be criticized because we need to have the truth. we didn't have accurate weather forecasts. we do not need people here trying to cover up for the president when he simply made a mistake in saying the hurricane was going to go near alabama. >> in your recollection, has thereer been a dispute like this with the national weather service and the white house? >> what is very troubling about the behavior of the president is he is taking a lot of normally good people in the federal government and making them do bad things, like covering up for his mistakes and for his errors. and i just wish more federal employees would understand that they took one oath. it was to the constitution. it was not to donald trump. i do hope their leadership of noaa gets a spine and stands up to the president and puts science over psycofancy.

>> do you believe the military is cooperating with the president to make money for his scottish resort? are they trying to curry favor with him? or do you see this layover as not being unusual as the air force claims? >> when you look at the public reporting, trust work is a defense contractor. they make money from this refueling. and we also know from the public reporting they got the trump resort to not only give reduced rates to the military but also to give them free rounds of golf. i was active duty as j.a.g. one thing is clear, you cannot accept any gueift from a prohib the source. and one prohibited source is a defense contractor. i think there's ethical issues with what the military is trying to do. i think they're trying to prop up trump's resort as well as giving a defense contractor a lot of money in exchange for these kinds of gifts the military is getting. >> i also want to ask you about

stormy daniels, as you and your colleagues in the judiciary committee are planning to hold hearings about the president's role in alleged push money payments. daniels says she's ready to testify. will your committee ask her to testify? >> the witness list has not been finalized. we do know that michael cohen is sitting in federal prison partly because he engaged in a criminal conspiracy to use hush money payments to silence stormy daniels as well as karen mcdougle when they had negative stories of affairs with donald trump. we also know donald trump wrote the checks for this criminal conspiracy along with ami, national enquirer and under any other american face of this evidence, that person would also be sitting next to michael cohen in prison. the reason trump has want been indicted because of a justice department policy that says you can't indict a sitting president. >> even though the witness list has want went put forth, would you like to see stormy daniels

testify? >> i think we put to put together the best witnesses we can to provide the witnesses and facts and a compelling narrative to the american people. what we have here is a criminal conspiracy in direct violation of federal campaign finance laws. these campaign finance laws are one of the bedrocks of our democracy. we can't have a democracy if people lie and cheat and winning their way into an election. >> congressman ted lieu, good to talk to you. >> thank you. we continue to follow dorian making its way north past eastern canada. that storm has been downgraded to a post-tropical cyclone but it's still packing a punch with winds up to 80 miles an hour. those heavy winds knocking out power for over 300,000 in nova scotia overnight. the bahamas remain in recovery mode a week after dorian made landfall with coast guard flying in relief support. the u.n. says 70,000 bahamans

are still without homes. what is the latest. u.s. coast guard cutters you talked about bringing them in and recovering a number of bahamians, right? >> reporter: yes, so far 308 people rescued by u.s. coast guard. that's a fresh number. when you cover these disasters and you see the ambulance behind me, you would like to see people that are injured streaming here into nassau, but we're not seeing that. and it gives you an idea of how powerful that storm really was. when you look at the new drone footage we have courtesy of our team on the ground, kerry sanders and photo journalist bill angaluci, it gives you an idea of the conditions on the islands. the goal on behalf of the

government here and the u.s. coast guard in that supporting role is to get people off these islands and bring them here to nassau. some of the holtels, some cruis ships will open up space for these displaced people. it's a matter of getting them off that island so they can clear some debris and not only look for maybe the miracle of a survivor but to start recovering bodies as well, of course. the disaster that happened here five days ago was horrific. it's important now, of course, that we avoid a further disaster as disease starts to become a concern and as the recovery effort gets under way. one thing i didn't mention last hour that i really do want to mention because it may sound trivial but it's not, when you talk to people in nassau, they tell you, spread the word. nassau is okay. come here to the bahamas, spend your money. your money, your tourism dollars. if you have reservations, that's what's going to keep these islands alive. and they're worried that, you know, the international media is going to say that all of the bahamas were decimated. it's those two islands, abaco

and grand bahama, as you said, somewhere around 6,000 people still missing, trying to reunite with families. that's what this is about behind me. i mentioned it last hour. the more helicopters you hear taking off behind me, the better the situation it will be for everybody involved, alex. >> that's not trivial at all. it's a very important point you make. thank you very much, cal perry. president trump has another republican challenger but what chance does mark sanford really have against the trump campaign machine? later nbc's lester holt behind bars. how he's shedding light on the issue of criminal justice reform. shrimp yeah!

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a top member of the house armed services committee says tomorrow that committee will seek answers as to whether military personnel are funneling money into trump properties. in comes after the air force and the trump organization confirmed military members have stayed at the president's resort in scotland back in march. here's what congressman told me last hour. >> i told the generals, i told the secretaries when i became chairman of the subcommittee which is directly responsible for this oversight, i said, we are not mushrooms. you will not keep us in the dark and you will not feed us blank blank. you're going to have to provide up-to-date current and accurate information. everything i've seen, everything i have heard indicates that this is totally outside normal process. it is wrong. it is clearly enriching the president.

>> joining me now, betsy wo woodruff. is anything going to come out of this? do you think john and others will be able to against answer to the questions? >> we can expect robust scrutiny from capitol hill. there's no question that this is the type of allegation and the type of activity that democrats and other critics of the president have worried about ever since the earliest days of his campaign. couple that with the fact that the pentagon has a a long, detailed history of waste and mismanagement of federal dollars. this certainly has all the elements of activity that, without question, is deeply troubling. to what extent are the people who made this decision going to

be able for those scrutinizing this. >> isn't the starting point to look at what happened before january 20th of 2017? you know, you look and see where the military or government officials would have stayed in that region and all of a sudden if there's a shift, isn't that right there, the beginning of the issue? >> certainly. and much of that will be open sourced and should be fairly easy for congress and for other folks in the public space to be able to obtain. in addition to that, no question there's satellite imagery that would show where military planes would land when they make stopovers in scotland and there's detailed open source information from flights from kuwait back to the united states and where those planes tend to make stopovers. even if they stiff-arm congress, they should be able to quet a sense of where this stop is a huge break from the normal when it comes to this particular polite pattern. >> is it plausible the president

did not issue this direction or could it only come at his order? >> i think that's something that congressional democrats are going to be looking into. it's not clear at this moment. the military hasn't been giving a lot of information of what exactly the orders may or may not have come from the white house. what's notable, what betsy was talking about, is that democrats have been deepening their probes into the trump administration as they plan to return this fall amid an impeachment push from their caucus. these democrats seeking damaging information from trump are going to be seizing on this. they're looking for something that the public can grasp, something outside of the mueller report, which is hundreds of pages that most people haven't read. this kind of an issue, which gets at the president's attempts at profiteering. >> i want to talk about congress coming back this week what are

the implications? >> the big question is whether speaker of the house nancy pelosi is able to use the i word is how they are investigating the circumstances regarding the president. this committee has been open about the fact they are working on building the case against president trump. chairman of the judiciary committee, jerry nadler, has said they are currently involved in an impeachment inquiry but they need a couple of additional steps to trigger some legal tools they would be able to have if they go all the way on that. in particular in our understanding, the committee is not currently using a grand jury to investigate the president. that's something the committee has used in the past and prior impeachment investigations. it's a tool that's available to them. there's currently no reporting or evidence they're currently using that tool. that's something we're keeping an eye on over the coming weeks. >> the use of the i word by nancy pelosi, in addition, sara,

let's take a listen to why gabbard says she does not support an itmpeachment inquiry >> continuing to pursue impeachment is something that will only further tear our country apart. make no bones about it. we need to defeat donald trump but i think it's important for our country's sake and our future that the voters in this country are the ones who do that and i believe we will. >> she's now in the minority. is this the main concern of those who don't want to pursue impeachment or more of a concern for the 2020 election? >> i think there's a lot of concern from democrats that i've personally talked to who don't want to go there on impeachment. they're afraid that not only could something like impeachment completely up-end their legislative, they feel they have a lot of legislative promises to make good on. of course, there are political cal implications and this is

something speaker nancy pelosi has avoided. they does not want to talk about the politics here. she and her top leadership team have said this is a strictly a decision based on what the caucus feels is necessary and what evidence they have. of course, there's only five months until the iowa primary. many democrats who support impeachment, i'm talking to them and they realize the time is running short. many have come to acknowledge they don't think the speaker will ever change her mind but they have a couple of months left to try to drum up as much sentiment as possible. i think having these investigations separate from the mueller investigation coming up this fall, they think this could be their last chance to really valve niz the public behind them on this. >> thank you so much. good to see you. conflict of interest. how layover at the president's scottish golf club is raising eyebro eyebrows. how north carolina could be a

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an inquiry as to whether the stopover helped the resort from going under. welcome back to the broadcast. always good to get into this with you, david. as you take a closer look at the president's scottish resort, it lost $4.5 million in 2017, but turn it around to an increase of revenue by $3 million in 2018. just the very next year. what does this say to you? >> well, this is a really big golf resort. it's not a small place. it has a couple of courses, a big hotel attached to it and a place trump has been pouring into. he bought it in 2012 and he has poured more than $100 million into renovations. parts have been reopening as the renovations proceed. it's not surprising. this is a place that, you know, if he gets anything out of his investment, the revenue ought to be going up. it's still losing money, even after that revenue went up, it still lost money in 2018.

>> so, basically what you're saying is the reports it may have been closed so it wouldn't be able to garner any sort of income. then those things are reopening. this doesn't -- you think this might be quite legit? >> there's a lot we don't know about that club. we should know more when the british government releases more filings on it. i don't look at that number and say something nefarious has to be going on here. >> okay. this is not the only time that staffers have stayed in the president's hotels while on official business. you know he suggested next year's g-7 summit be held at his golf resort in florida. is this technically illegal or is there gray area here? >> one thing i was surprised to learn, and i think other people will be surprised to learn, in this area it's really hard for the president to do something illegal. there's lots and lots of rules about other executive branches using their positions to benefit themselves, funnel money to themselves but the president and vice president are exempt on the

theory that the voters choose the people. if president trump wants to put the g-7 summit at his golf course, there's nothing -- you know, he's not going to get arrested for that or fined for that. if congress decides that that is a violation of the emoluments clause in the constitution, the president couldn't take payments from foreign governments, which he would if he hosted them at his resort, if congress think it's it's a violation, they could impeach him. there's nothing illegal because the president has so much leeway. >> you've done so much reporting on potential emoluments violations. from all your reporting on these alleged cases, is there anything that seems most egregious to you be, the greatest violation? >> doral would be far and away the biggest violation. potential violation of the emoluments clause in terms of foreign money coming in and also a violation of what trump told us he was going to do at the beginning of his term. he said, look, nobody can stop

me from mixing my business and presidency but i'm going to stop myself. i'm going to make sure i don't use the presidency to benefit my own business. with doral he's throwing that out the window. he's using the power of the presidency for a petty purpose, to serve as a booking agent for his golf resort in florida which has had money troubles lately. it's a petty use of power. in this way, in sort of the violations of his promises, it would be the biggest and most egregious thing he's done so far. >> has anything come from these emoluments violations, the allegations of that? do you expect anything to come from it? if this was not brought to the public's attention, is this the exact kind of thing that would go unchecked? >> well, i mean, it is going unchecked now. there's been two sort of prongs of effort to try to stop trump. one is through the courts, filing lawsuits, accusing him of violating the emoluments clause.

the problem is because so many presidents before him have stayed away from even touching the line here, there's not a huge amount of law, who can sue, what the punishment is, so all these lawsuits that have been filed get sort of stuck on the shoals of precedent. nobody knows what the precedent is here so they have to work that out slowly. the democrats in congress have said they're going to invest great this. it's moving slowly because congress always moves slowly and a key chairman -- especially the chairman of transportation and infrastructure who can invest great's trump's hotel hasn't moved that fast. >> it is extraordinary. david fahrenthold, great talking to you. thank you. >> thank you. we're two days away from an election that could be a bellwether to 2020. north carolina holding a special election. democratic candidate dan mccready lost by less than 1,000 votes due to the scheme. a new republican state senator

dan bishop is now on the ballot. joining me from matthews, north carolina, nbc news congressional correspondent leanne caldwell. welcome to you on this sunday. look, these past elections show a pretty big divide in this district. 2020 now a little over a year away. how have the campaigns amped up their efforts? because this is kind of looking like a toss-up at this point, right? >> reporter: it's definitely a jump ball. that's why both candidates are out this weekend knocking on doors trying to get their supporters to turn out to the polls on tuesday. for the democrat dan mccready, he's running to be the first democrat to represent this district since 1963. so, his message, he's running as a moderate democrat. he's separating himself from the national democratic party and instead running on local issues of health care and education. we caught up with dan as well as his opponent, dan bishop, over the weekend, and here's what they had to say. you said up here that if you

win, it will send shock waves through the entire country. what did you mean by that? >> well, this campaign is about bringing people together. we're up against every kind of hateful and divisive politics. and if we deliver this win, it will be a signal we can bring this country together, even in this divided political era we're in. >> reporter: how do you feel heading into the final hours? >> we've had a great week or two. it is clear both from data we see, some of it published, or from just the feel out there, it's very consistent. we've surged. i think we've caught him. >> reporter: bishop says he's surging because of his message. he is tying mccready to the national democrats saying they are too far left for this district. he's also tying himself so closely to the president, who will be in the district tomorrow. alex? >> leigh ann caldwell, thank you

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we're back with a brand-new 2020 poll that has the race of the democratic nomination looking the closest. the poll of early democratic contests has biden pulling in estimated 600 delegates.

elizabeth warren on his heels with 545. bernie sanders with 286 delegates. the result is from all of the states holding primaries and caucuses through super tuesday. let's bring in msnbc contribute.