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and that brings this hour to lewandowski has agreed to come in. we expect to have him come in a close. this month. i will see you tonight at we have additional witnesses we 8:00 p.m. eastern and then will be interviewing some using tomorrow at 1:00 eastern and staff to interview and others we'll have them come during a public hearing. again at 3:00 p.m. eastern. this is all to educate the "deadline: white house" with american people. nicolle wallace begins now. there already is a mountain of >> hi, everyone. evidence that donald trump it's 4:00 in new york. committed multiple felonies. not even a trip to the pentagon >> congressman, do you to honor the victims of 9/11 on understand the critique that the this solemn anniversary slowed southern district of new york found donald trump to have the president's steady stream of committed a felony campaign complaints and attacks today. most of those grievances aired finance violation in their investigation that robert mueller found donald trump on his twitter feed became likely to have committed ten positively undone about a fresh criminal acts of obstruction of hound of head to head polls that justice and that it's this time show him losing to nearly half a to educate the public may have dozen democrats. been squandered? but he also found time in an >> the so we know if you look at what happened during watergate, oval office meaning to insult his nearly departed third it takes a while to get all the national security adviser and to facts out to the public. go after the press for revealing i wish everyone would watch your that the attacks on the weather show on msnbc. that's not the case. service that corrected trump's we do have to continue to highlight these issues. erroneous alabama forecast came from the president and his chief of staff. and it's something to have >> that's a whole hoax by the marryings, do the investigations
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and bring the facts forward to fake news media when they talk about the hurricane and when they talk about florida and when the american people. they talk about alabama. >> we do spend a lot of time that's just fake news. talking about donald trump's criminality because of its right from the beginning it was a fake story. abundance. and on the question of corruption that seems to have >> and you know what that means, replaced the russia cloud that real as can be. he often talked to, the but it's those polls that show corruption cloud is the new one donald trump's political hanging over him. standing may be reaching a low i think if you can attribute his point that's leading to a sinking poll numbers to stories presidential unraveling. like turnberry to trying to here are those polls. donald trump loses to joe biden corrupt the national weather in head to head polling by 15 service to something i think your committee's going to look points. at, dangling of pardons in front donald trump loses to bernie sanders by nine points. of people who break the laws in donald trump losing to elizabeth carrying out his desired warren and kamala harris by immigration policies. what's the strategy on that larger umbrella of corruption seven points. donald trump loses to mayor pete and criminality inside the buttigieg should he be the federal government? nominee by four points. >> so, democrats have been the head to head polls we are running on an agenda of three reflecting with the latest presidential approval number items. it was health care, infrastructure, and the third reveals that trump's squandered one was getting rid of corruption. summer has taken a toll. and i think you're absolutely he slumped six points and he's right that this is bringing down back in the 30s nearing his his poll numbers. what we see in the polls is it lowest approval rating ever. doesn't matter if you're a "the washington post" notes, democrat or republican or quote, president trump trails independent, you don't like corruption. what the american people are
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seeing is donald trump profiting potentialal democratic challenges. with approval ratings as low as off the presidency getting money for the trump organization for trump's are today. that is where we start with some him and his family and having of our favorite reporters and friends. the u.s. military do these stops with us from "the new york so they can stay at his luxury times" white house correspondent amy kearney. resort in scotland and then getting the weather service to nbc news correspondent heidi put false facts out there when their folks in birmingham have przybyla. msnbc correspondent garrett the real facts. haake. and at the table charlie sykes, so this is very troubling to editor in chief of the american people. >> break down the vote tomorrow. conservative news and opinion what does it mean, what does it website the bulwark. help you do? and eddie glaude. >> it allows us to have certain let me start with you. procedures in terms of reviewing grand jury testimony, having staff do interviews. it will expedite their there are presidential tells. one of them is sort of his inability to restrain himself. continuing impeachment inquiry that we've been in. >> congressman ted lieu, thank it's almost one of those obliterated norms that we are so you for spending time with us. used to, it barely registers. i know you're busy. i don't have any recollection of after hiring a national any past president using this security adviser became a anniversary and sort of between reality, a game of who's up and events which donald trump did who's down, national security attend to honor the anniversary officials made life and death decisions on days like today. ci. of 9/11 attacking his rivals on
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3 out of 4 people achieved... his twitter feed and in that ...90% clearer skin at 4 months... oval office meeting we showed. ...after just 2 doses. >> well, yes. skyrizi may increase your risk of infections... i mean, we've seen him fire off ...and lower your ability to fight them. tweets when he's traveling before treatment your doctor should check you abroad on foreign soil, picking for infections and tuberculosis. political fights at home. tell your doctor if you have an infection... this is a somber day of ...or symptoms such as fevers,... ...sweats, chills, muscle aches or coughs... remembrance and trump had events and on twitter we see where his ...or if you plan to or recently received a vaccine. mind really is which is on this i feel free to bare my skin. poll. these kinds of events when it visit skyrizi.com. calls for a nation coming together and remembering, fighting on twitter about polls is more naturally where he tends to be. one thing that struck me about his tweet was the statement that he said i haven't even started campaigning, which that was what stood out to me the most there. first of all he had a kickoff rally in orlando in june which felt funny at the time because it was a kickoff to a campaign that had never really stopped for the past two years. he's been campaigning the whole time. he launched his re-election campaign days after his
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inauguration. and more and more we see official white house events looking indistinguishable from campaign events. yesterday he gave a speech about hbcu's historically black colleges and universities. he talked about how he would (classical music playing throughout) poll with african-american voters and sympathy for the devil his campaign sunk play after he left the stage. so that really struck me that he says i haven't even started. he's never stopped. >> that's such a good point. what's so amazing is that axios had the schedules, and, annie, you and your colleagues have done extensive reporting and do on a nearly daily basis that there is no governing on his schedule ever. there is an occasional photo op to lend the appearance to governing but there's no actual governing that happens. for better or for worse, his critics may be relieved to hear that. >> i mean, his schedule is a fluid thing where he sits in the oval or in the dining room off the oval and watches tv and
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calls people in as they come and policymaking does not have a structured process and is done on the fly. but, yeah. i mean, what he understands is a head-to-head political fight and that's what he has ahead of him. and everything, many battles, policies about right now are about his re-election. >> garrett haake, i think that what is revealed in this round of head to heads and some of the sinking approval ratings is that it blows out of the water this idea that nothing matters to his base. that may be true with the base, but the base isn't 44% of america. it's somewhere south of 38% of americans. and certainly his conduct and the idea that sort of the mueller cloud has been replaced by an almost darker cloud of corruption and incompetence, that has sent his poll numbers to some of the lowest of his presidency.
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>> yeah. i mean, you look at those numbers coming out of texas. and i would largely discount a donald trump is now casting lot of the head to head numbers. a bout his fourth national this is before a dime has been spent on advertising and the general election which i think security adviser in less than three years. on a day like today the we raelds is probably going to anniversary of 9/11, it's a be one of the most negative elections one of us have ever seen. >> way to sell it, garrett. reminder of just how much that way to get me excited. job matters. condoleezza when the towers were [ laughter ] >> reporter: okay, everybody, hit was by president bush's side tune in. no, i mean, look, the as he plotted the next moves. president's numbers are stagnant even in a place like texas. outline what did kind of person he has completely turned off the she hopes will be in the position next. suburban voters in the state. in harris county, suburban >> somebody with integrity, houston where i am right now, somebody with judgment, somebody all the dallas suburbs we started to see this in 2018 when who recognizes that being a lot of these seats flipped to the democrats. national security adviser is not we are going to see more of a solo endeavor. those probably flipping in 2020 i liken it to being a point with all these republican retirements that we've seen around the state here. guard leading a basketball team. a lot of the key issues that i write about that in my book. drums that president trump like it is a team sport. to bang on don't play that well and we don't seem to have had in texas. that of late. this is a state that is >> but trump's national security enormously dependent on trade adviser isn't the only spot he has to fill. here. many own trump's national they have been nearly bulletproof through the
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security team are just empty. recession. texas has gotten through that just fine. but the trade war makes people samanthapower, former u.n. nervous here. ambassador under obama, stressed and the immigration rhetoric the important of these jobs to our colleague rachel maddow last doesn't work here either. night. >> these jobs exist for a texans know mexicans. reason. that is our next door neighbor yes, there can be too much here. there is just a complete divorce bureaucracy. but to have senior people around between the rhetoric the the room who tell -- i hope this president uses about immigration happens in some room somewhere and what texans including in the trump administration, it's not evident that it does, republicans and independents see and feel every day. but where you have people with so, yes, i think the border crisis, the images of kids in different viewpoints who challenge propositions that are cages in texas cities is far at the table, bringing their more damaging to president trump different life experiences, among the voters he would like their different so-called to reach here than anything about mueller or russia or how equities, it's the complete opposite. he got elected in 2016 ever was here why did bolton lose his job? because he actually disagreed. or would be. >> so this is a day, is a hard >> and for anyone listening in their car or while you were day for all of the national security folks who worked for talking, garrett, donald trump george w. bush. at only 45% approval. i've been in touch with a lot of 50% disapproval. i want to ask you about guns. them today. you were in the government on i can't believe i'm about to 9/11. utter this sentence. talk about it. >> i also had the privilege of but over the summer, you covered two mass shootings in the state supervising the prosecution of of texas. how has the gun issue changed if the nev9/11 conspiracy in the at all in the state of texas? eastern district of virginia. this is a hard day for many >> reporter: it's really interesting. number one, we're seeing the reasons. to susan rice's point, right, it
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democratic voters across the is a point guard analogy. country are now saying this is the most important issue to the national security adviser them. in texas the shooting in el paso oversees the national security and then again in odessa got a council, don't forget that. this is a group of men and women ton of news coverage here locally even beyond what we were with deep experience throughout talking about nationally. the government in national security matters. and so the idea is not to be the we saw the governor of the state convene these panels to dust it, not a lot has come from that so voice of national security, it's to be the orchestrator of the far. but texans have been super american response when national dialled in on it. i interviewed four of the security crises arise. democrats who were running to be the candidate to take on john like the attacks of 9/11. thank goodness we had cornyn in the senate here next year. condoleezza rice in that seat. all of them had far more this structure, by the way, the progressive gun control policies national security council was than i think you would ever see built after world war ii when in the state of texas. there was a good bit of three out of of the four said they were in favor of mandatory freelancing going on. it turned out fine, by the way. buy-backs for assault weapons. we won, thank god. everybody is on board with universal background checks. but the whole idea was to create that would have gotten you a structure in which an organized and thoughtful thrown out of events here in the response could be crafted. and that's what susan rice and state of texas six years ago, maybe four years ago. that's what condoleezza rice you saw a little bit of the beto got. o'rourke campaign for senate in >> steve hadley was another, the 2018 pushing the limits on that. other national security adviser the conversation has flipped who worked for george w. bush. dramatically in a state that has there's a selflessness about more guns than any other state.
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people, condoleezza rice and susan rice became household but where responsible gun owners are saying this doesn't work the names because of some of the way we have this set up now. events that transpired on their >> heidi, how is that impacting watch. the debate in congress? but what's so uncomfortable about watching this it would seem that democrats who administration and having the have been frustrated. kind of debates that you talked i mean, president obama put the about should they say or go, should they talk or not talk, is entire weight of his presency that the arsonist is the behind gun control after the president of the united states. tragedy in newtown, but nothing and so we can talk around that. happened. it's fine. lots of days we have to, and we it would seem that in it's the should. parkland kids becoming activists but the bottom line is whether and sort of looking at the you love or hate john bolton, grownups in the room like, you whether you agree or disagree know, wtf or if it's the crush with every policy position he's ever, ever held, it's my and the pace and the clip of understanding from multiple mass shootings or if it's sources, he carried around a parents looking around at their fire extinguisher. kids when they come back from preschool having active shooter >> well, the other thing he did which undermines the whole drills, it feels like the process -- i mean, the national political tide is turning in security adviser, the usual favor of gun control efforts. narrative is it's an honest >> it does feel like there is a shift in intensity, nicole. broker. part of that is there's a structure of how you look at i was there after newtown issues using the national covering that gun control debate. and actually the first thing to security council. the principles committee, the deputies committee, that was all started under bush 41. happen that was the death canal for that legislation was the bolton got rid of that entire fact that red state democrats process. he was not -- he was a terrible
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were so scared that they national security adviser wouldn't support it. because he's an ideologue, not a and so then it was hard for point guard or an honest broker, democrats to then go to even and because he undermined the moderate republicans and get process whereby expertise and them on board with the legislation because the fear of opinion could come up through the nra and the backlash was so the national security council to get to the president. that's a problem. pervasive. that's going to be a problem no you flash forward now to where matter who the national security adviser is now. >> and i guess that problem is the ground swell of activism, structural. the other problem is a president who's simply riding, you know, the intensity is really on the side of the gun safety community. is it mom's demand action? coochie coos for kim jong-un. yes. is it the parkland students? yes. they are all making their voices heard. and it is also the public, which i'm not sure. is starting to shift as well on i went to principles meetings for gwac, on terrorist issues like the assault weapons principles meeting for shutting ban which has been expired for down gitmo, i'm sure you did, decades. too, because it didn't happen and i just talked to actually a under our administrations. i'm not sure you need a policy prominent democratic senator process to improve upon this last night, nicole, who's been working on this gun issue. president's foreign policy debacle. the taliban should -- if trump he says that a number of had his way the taliban would republicans have privately approached him because they are have been a campaign incentive. >> really. remember he started -- bannon scared. they want the president to bring something forward on background gave us -- i keep going back to that moment. checks. they are worried about their own bannon gave us the three boxes.
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political hides. one of them was to deconstruct and so the question is whether the president is going to show the administrative state. leadership here because mitch mcconnell has made clear he's all these acting folks, has had not putting anything on the floor that the president won't a clear and direct impact on sign. foreign policy, right. this president after every only trump can fix it. massacre seems to have a which means in interesting sorts familiar pattern where he flirts of ways that he's had to in some and says that he's going to do ways, in some ways eviscerate background checks, and then the all of these processes, these nra gets a hold of him, shakes structures, these departments him back into obedience, and he that have in some ways been key pulls back. to our safety. >> i don't think they shake very >> the key is donald trump. hard, charlie. as you point out, he's the it's still galling though, and i arsonist-in-chief. believe every word that heidi's this was a terrible appoint to name john bolton. reporting. but what in we're afraid of is he was not suit for the job and their political fate. obviously had a different world they're not galled or they don't view. the reason he did it was because publicly speak about being he saw him on tv, and think gauled by the clip of killings about this how central -- >> he argued for positions that of innocence. donald trump didn't agree with. >> and think about all of the >> the fundamental dynamics of foreign policy, major foreign this, the politics have not policy initiatives that are basically just reality tv shows changed because donald trump is going to run a base-only election. i think that he's afraid and in donald trump's mind, whether he's been told that this would it is, you know, the kim jong-un rattle his base. summit or this notion of look, you know, take those head bringing the taliban to camp
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david. but the heart of this is that to head national poll numbers for what they're worth. there is no plan, there is no but also notice that in those strategy, it is only donald swing states that he won from hillary clinton, those numbers trump's impulses. are much, much closer. and i think he's becoming more and more comfortable going with this election's not going to be decided in california. the impulses, and those impulses it's not going to be decided in can be very, very dangerous. new york. it's going to be decided in going back to the question of places like ohio, wisconsin, should he speak out, if in fact pennsylvania, and michigan. and this issue will play these impulses are going to make differential there in some of the country less safe, i think the higher loyalty, higher those areas. patriotism, is the guys like >> you don't see it shifting? you got gun owners in favor of john bolton need to speak out about that because nobody else around him apparently is going background checks. to be restraining him. you got gun owners i mean, pompeo is out there overwhelmingly in favor of red flag laws. >> and they always have been. smiling and chortling because but there is this fear of going up against that hardcore intense he's won this bureaucratic war. he's next. he's going to find this out, as base that the nra represents. well, that donald trump does not now, i mean, we could be shocked want to have smart people who disagree with him. by donald trump. >> i think it's also sort of to but donald trump so far has not allowed any daylight between himself and the nra the our -- one of the weaknesses hardliners on all of this. and if he doesn't move, the that these conversations is to suggest that the foreign policy republican party's not going to has been hit and miss. move on all of this. and then i think they're going the foreign policy has been an to pay a huge price at the unadulterated debacle. polls. >> i think just to focus on >> exactly. >> right. >> we've gotten nowhere as a donald trump's weakness would be country in terms of the threat a mistake. that north korea represents.
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this is also about the strength we've gotten nowhere as a of the democratic field. you've got five candidates from country after pulling out of the joe biden who just crushes iran deal. we've gotten nowhere -- in the donald trump. and i understand the limitations middle east, doesn't represent any sort of american values at of national head to head numbers. i've touted them when it's been all. he's supposedly the closest ally my candidate on top. on the world stage. i've dismissed them when it's he's moving us backward in every been my candidate on the bottom. way. >> i would love to hear from bob but the truth is indicators are corker who's no longer in the indicators, and the indicator is united states senate, as chairman of the -- you know, the that at least five democrats -- what was it -- the foreign beat donald trump handily. >> it allows us to put aside at relations committee. republicans in the senate, they least for a moment the question don't know this. in congress, they are looking at of electability as a way of this, they are looking at this determining who we should foreign policy that's left us support in the democratic field. more isolated and less because usually at least the argument in the preseason has been biden is the one who can respected. and of course this weird beat trump. fascination with the worst well now we have evidence, at decktators in the world. least the polls have been >> he likes their handle on the consistent to show that at least produce press, i guess. five, six people can beat trump. we'll be right back. ess, i guess we'll be right back. banjo? so then the question then becomes what are we to consider? do we need to consider where (man) hey. they stand on health care, go home. immigration, how far left are (woman) banjo! they going? where are they centrist? sorry, it won't happen again. where do they stand in the internal debate within the come on, let's go home.
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party? then the third issue i think all of this boils down to turnout. it's going to be a base after 10 years, we've covered a lot of miles. election. good thing i got a subaru. we know what really is going to (man) looks like you got out again, huh, banjo. matter here is whether or not (avo) love is out there. find it in a subaru crosstrek. donald trump can expand his base and where he can get those rural but we're also a cancer fighting, voters to come out in massive numbers. this is what we saw innapecial . hiv controlling, we saw donald trump come down, joint replacing, and depression relieving company. generate some excitement. then we saw all of these folks from the day you're born show up. and it had an impact. we never stop taking care of you. even with regards to those suburban voters who had turned ♪ their nose against donald trump. and this is key. thousands of women with metastatic breast cancer his strategy at least it seems to me is to expand his base, are living in the moment and taking ibrance. those white voters who don't ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor is for postmenopausal women or for men with hr+/her2- breast cancer vote who are disaffected, and who he appeals to by way of some that has spread to other parts of the body - of the ugly things. >> and the other thing and meaning it's metastatic - garrett mentioned how negative as the first hormonal based therapy. this campaign is going to be. donald trump knows he doesn't ibrance plus letrozole significantly have to win this election. delayed disease progression versus letrozole. he has to have the democrats lose it. patients taking ibrance can develop he's got to have -- you know, in low white blood cell counts which may cause serious infections that can lead to death.
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2016 among voters who hated both before taking ibrance, candidates they broke heavily tell your doctor if you have fever, for him. i think you're going to have a chills, or other signs of infection, big chunk of voters who are liver or kidney problems, are pregnant, breastfeeding, going to dislike both candidates by election day on 2020. or plan to become pregnant. and so the question is can common side effects include low red blood cell and donald trump run a negative low platelet counts, infections, tiredness, enough campaign to paint the nausea, sore mouth, democrats as more of a threat to abnormalities in liver blood tests, the republic than he is? diarrhea, hair thinning or loss, vomiting, and i think that's going to be rash, and loss of appetite. at the heart of his strategy. >> annie karni, you and your be in your moment. colleagues in the paper and on ask your doctor about ibrance. your twitter feeds are pretty expert at sort of deciphering donald trump. i've seen a lot of notes in the last sort of 36 hours about how to tell what really bothers him. and it would appear that when it came to john bolton, it had less to do with policy differences. like very high triglycerides, and other than loving putin and can be tough. you diet. exercise. wanting to have the taliban at but if you're also taking fish oil supplements, camp david. you should know, but he's mad about the idea or they are not fda-approved, they may have saturated fat and the allegation or the belief may even raise bad cholesterol. that bolton leaked about him. and when it comes to these to treat very high triglycerides, discover the science of prescription vascepa.
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polls, i think that it's been pointed out to me that he's proven in multiple clinical trials, aware of his weak political vascepa, along with diet, standing at the moment. but it's the coverage of the is the only prescription epa treatment, polls that so enrages him. approved by the fda to lower same with the democrats that he's not convinced that very high triglycerides by 33%, socialism wouldn't sell to some elements of his base, maybe some without raising bad cholesterol. working class white men that he look. it's clear. counts on that he's not there's only one prescription epa vascepa. convinced it wouldn't be -- is vascepa is not right for everyone. that all of it is sort of stage do not take vascepa if you are allergic to icosapent ethyl or craft that none of it at this any inactive ingredient in vascepa. point means much of anything to this president. tell your doctor if you are allergic to fish or shellfish, >> someone made the point that i have liver problems or other think is a really good one that medical conditions and about if you want to think about who any medications you take, especially those that may donald trump is most afraid of affect blood clotting. in terms of the democratic 2.3% of patients reported joint pain. field, it's whoever they are ask your doctor about vascepa. talking about on tv the most in prescription power. that moment. proven to work. that so much of how he thinks is reacting to coverage, and it always is. you brought up the bolton thing. the final straw according to our reporting was that bolton the latest season of chuck appeared to try to sort of leak rosenburg's amazing podcast "the that he had disagreed with trump about the meeting at camp david oath" is out. he talks to one of the with the taliban and also leaked this idea that pence had agreed prosecutors who helped convicted with him and not the president.
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this was the final straw. 9/11's ma soui. the leaking, the appearing in thanks to everyone, and most of public to break with the all, thank you for watching. president or contradict him. that does it for us. but, yeah, he's watching how these people are playing. "npt daily" with chuck todd in terms of the campaign, the starts now. campaign operatives who are seasoned to some degree still believe that biden would be the biggest challenge for them in the race. the hardest candidate to make if it's wednesday, how the the socialism argument against republican win last night in north carolina could signal big the one who could most appeal to trouble for the president and some of trump's base and take his party, particularly in an that away from him. important swing state. so, yes, the polls show that all plus, as congress gets ready for a major vote on impeachment, of the candidates are beating him now. we'll speak with a democrat in charge of getting more democrats biden obviously would not have elected to the house. the same grassroots appeal among and what did the president democratic voters and who is to say he gets out the same kind of vote elizabeth warren would. noaa and when did he noaa it? but from the trump campaign's a report draws a straight line from trump to the perspective, he still is mentioned to me most as the hardest challenger for trump. >> because he threatens that coalition. >> he threatens to appeal to the same kind of voters that trump appeals to. >> all right.
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we have some breaking -- >> oh, go ahead, annie. >> i was just going to make one more point about the negatives -- sorry, you know, in terms of trying to drag his opponents -- or drive them up. he will never have an opponent whose negatives are as high as hillary clinton's were. that was a unique race where both candidates were really -- both had like upside down numbers. both were really disliked. and both voters had strong opinions of both of them that were hard and fast. and it was hard to change those. he will not have an opponent where there is a view quite like there was with hillary clinton. >> all right. i'm going to act out that breaking news graphic. breaking news we are learning this hour the trump administration will not grant temporary protected status to people from the bahamas displaced by hurricane dorian. the news comes as authorities there announce that there are at least 2,500 people missing, 2,500 people, as a result of hurricane doran.
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nbc new's julia ainsley is here with more. i've watched your reporting yesterday on morning joe and other places and it would appear that the worst-case scenario for the victims of this hurricane has come to pass. tell us about it. >> reporter: it is, nicole. so temporary protected status has been granted at this point to ten countries. there are over 300,000 people in the united states now with temporary protected status. they have left things like haiti's 2010 earthquake and they are allowed to live here and work here until the u.s. has determined it's safe to return for their country. >> how is that possible? i'm just looking at these pictures while you are talking. how is that possible, julia? >> reporter: it's not that it doesn't compare to some of the devastation we have seen elsewhere. it's that this administration has a completely different way of looking at temporary protected status. there have been people with different groups that they have revoked temporary protected status to, even though they know
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the conditions and they aren't given the advice in the reports to show that the conditions have changed at all. they will still revoke this temporary protected status. what they do have is a way for people from the bahamas to come here temporarily on visas, that is if they can find their passports and visas in the middle of all of this destruction, they can come to the united states temporarily. but it's very temporary and they cannot work. a temporary protected status would allow someone really to stay in the country for years, sometimes ten or 15 years we've seen people stay. and they really plug into the community and almost become like americans after they leave this country. so that will not be granted to the people from this place, which is devastating for them. if they're going to try to wait out however long it takes for the recovery of such devastation, they are going to need to be able to work in order to do that. and right now the united states is saying that the state department will not be authorizing or requesting temporary protected status on
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their behalf. >> it's unbelievable. garrett, you said a couple minutes ago that the immigration issue cuts differently in texas. i mean, i don't think that warning or scaring or fearmongering about people from the bahamas sounds like a particularly winning message in any battleground state, let alone in texas. is this the sort of kind of overreach on a topic like immigration that you're hearing on the campaign trail may have gone too far for some voters? >> we'll have to wait and see. i wonder if something like this just becomes part of the drip, drip, drip of whatever the latest sort of off the wall thing from the white house is that people start to tune out. it is wholly consistent with every other restrictionist immigration policy that this president has made. i have a hard time imagining that any democrat or democrat-leaning voter who didn't think the president's immigration policies were crazy before would look at this and think, ah-hah, perhaps this is the moment he's gone too far. but it is fully in line with what democrats have said is essentially a totally heartless
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immigration policy. and i'm sure we will hear more about it from the democratic candidates. >> i mean, i guess the difference is no one in the bahamas was trying to come here. their homes were obliterated. the pictures that we're showing looks like a nuclear blast. so the difference between sort of the bucket of cruel immigration policies is that no one from the bahamas was trying to come here for a better life. they were happy in the bahamas by and large. but they are now homeless because their homes have been wiped out. >> so politics aside, this is evil, this is cruel. any idea of the country as kind of this moral beacon to the world, this contradicts it quite clearly. >> this is what made america great is that we were always there at moments like this, you know? >> not for black people. >> and i'm going to apologize in advance for this. donald trump thinks of the bahamas as a [ bleep ] hole country. he doesn't want people from those countries to come here. and so, yeah, it is hard to escape that because it is the
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kalousness, it is the cruelty. it is the unchristian attitude. >> i was about to say that. >> where are the christians in all this. but what is your christianity if you look at those pictures and say we are not there for you. we are not going to provide some sort of assistance for you? so it's unamerican, it's unchristian, and unfortunately i do think that there will be people who will be disgusted by this. i don't know how many people will be disgusted by it. but you're right. >> and i think at the same time, charlie, there will be a whole bunch of people who won't. >> we know that. >> and we ask ourselves the question what does that say about who we are because that's cruel. that's not only cruel. that's evil. and we need to call it for what it is. that's evil. >> it's certainly unbelievable. my thanks to julia ainsley, annie karni, heidi przybyla, and garrett haake. thank you all for spending some time with us. we are grateful. after the break we have our answer to who called the code red on the weather service. new reporting takes it all the
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way to the top like the guy in the office with no corners top. and the house judiciary committee is off and running on gun control and on donald trump's alleged abuse of power. but with so many scandals and so little time, how can they assure the public that investigations will be completed? we'll ask a member of that committee in the center of just about every political storm in washington this week. and 9/11 drives home the crisis of all the vacancies and key natural security positions. we'll talk to two former national security officials about the danger of donald trump being home alone. all those stories coming up. about it? now there's a solution! downy wrinkleguard is a fabric conditioner that helps protect you from wrinkles all day. just pour the dye free liquid into the rinse dispenser. after a day of wear, pants washed with downy wrinkleguard and detergent are virtually wrinkle free. it even comes unscented.
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and as if his approval numbers and his polling against democrats weren't enough to suggest that president trump has reached peak desperation, we are learning today that he's also resorted to personally waging a war onned with and the people who report on it -- weather and the people who report on it. "the washington post" reveals that the white house and donald trump himself were behind threats of weather forecaster who's forecasted the weather. the white house was directly involved in pressing a federal scientific agency to repudiate the weather forecasters who contradicted president trump's alabama.t hurricane dorian that's according to several people familiar with the events. mick mulvaney, the acting white house chief of staff, told wilbur ross -- that alabama was not at risk. the with. april "post" adds that the
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president himself that hurricane dorian posed a significant threat to alabama as of september 1st. in contrast with the agency's forecasters were predicting at the time. that's according to senior administration officials. trump had complained for several days about the issue according to the senior official who's spoke anonymously because of the sensitivity of the matter. joining our conversation former u.s. attorney and former senior fbi chuck rosenberg and rick stengel, former managing editor at time magazine. why does this story matter? >> it matters for a couple of reasons. first, nicole, you would hope that there's company, a grownup somewhere who would say i'm just not going to do that. what you're asking me to do doesn't make sense. i remember many years in graduate school professors saying never hire anybody who's desperate for the job. hire somebody with enough
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professional detachment who can walk away. that's an important thing. here's another reason why it matters. if i were president, and by the way, i'd rather have a root canal every day for four years. [ laughter ] i would surround myself with the most experienced, smartest people i could find. some people think of that as the deep state. but i would want professional career civil servants with expertise in their fields. those are the people who can make or break an administration. those are the people who really know what's going on and how to execute on policy. and so undermining them strikes me not just as wrong but as incredibly foolish. >> i think this story matters because it's so easy to understand. he went to war against weather forecasters. in my time in government, i never met any weather forecasters because there was never any question about noaa products or documents. this is about an administration
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so deep down the tunnel of disinformation that they are shaking the scientists down. >> yes. when you were reading the preamble there and you described it as a federal scientific agency, that's what it is. it is about science. science is about facts and truth. it's about questioning facts if they're wrong and debating them. but ultimately all of those civil servants and everybody works there feels accountable to the facts and to science at large. the problem with donald trump is like in "alice and wonderland," nothing is a fact until he says it's a fact. even if you are looking at it, it's wrong. so this whole -- you know, one of the things this disinformation that he practices is that he alone is the person who decides what is fact and what is fiction. >> you know, i'm so upset i'm foxing over my water here. but general hayden said at an event that his attacks are attacks on evidence-based
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sciences. law enforcement, science, the judiciary. i mean, we now have had two years since he made that prescient comment. i guess my fear is if he's willing to take a pen to a forecast where it affects the back to school plans and back-to-school shopping and the safety of the citizens of an entire state, what's he doing to, i don't know, research from the nih or classified images from the pentagon or, you know, what's he doing that we don't know about? >> and there's also another ominous development over that we've seen over the last couple of weeks that the president is figuring out how he can use the levers of power. one of the things that's protected us so far has been two things, the adults in the room but also donald trump's incompetence. but imagine what a second term would be like where the president realizes i can bend all of these agencies to my will. i can tell the air force where to refuel. i can tell the department of justice, you know, who to launch anti-trust investigations or who to indict.
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we are seeing a president who is maybe unraveling but he's also unrestrained. so a president who you go so far as to get the weather service to support him. what other things is he going to do? because who's around the oval office saying no, and who in congress so far has basically said, no, you can't touch that hot stove? he gets away with it. >> even when a 22-month investigation finds willihim to committed acts of injustice. >> if donald trump figures this out, things can get a lot worse. >> because the kind of summary sentence of this is that everything and everyone must submit to his will. and to the extent to which that is true, to the extent to which it is evidenced and practiced, democracy, our democracy is in danger. everything and everyone must
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submit to this guy's will. >> let me put you on the spot as a former what it would appear john bolton did. contradicted only by the president at this point. it's what jim mattis did. it's what you did. it's what a handful of others have done. does he have an obligation to speak out? >> yes and no. i mean, i want to say yes because that seems like the easy answer. but i also believe any president, even perhaps a crazy one is entitled to have some degree of respect and loyalty for the position. i struggle with this. does he have to speak out? no. should he speak out? perhaps. would i like him to speak out? absolutely. and along that spectrum, nicole, i really struggle with that. people often ask that a similar question. should you stay or go? as if it's only -- well, it is a
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binary choice but as if the binary choice is obvious. >> or black and white. >> black and white, up or down, yes or no. people who i know struggle with that as well. in the end i think both of those questions are very personal questions. >> but the line seems to me, and i've seen mattis said i'm old-fashioned, i don't believe in criticizing or talk about a current president. i'm old-fashioned too. i remember when that was the case. >> and i respect that. but the line is i'm a patriot. if i feel that the country is being jeopardized to theaggrega standard and say something. so, i could only include -- i mean, he didn't say that that he doesn't feel that's the case because i can't imagine or i hope it's not true that if he felt that was the case and was still being circumspect about saying anything. >> well, and john bolton told
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why don't you go ask him if he has any regrets for all the people who died because he hasn't acted. >> strong words from a fed-up nancy pelosi. she's waiting on mitch mcconnell who is, in turn, waiting on the president for word on what exact specific measures he would like passed for their part. democrats are trying house judiciary committee advanced three gun control measures yesterday along party lines aimed at preventing high-risk people from owning guns and banning high-capacity ammo magazines. that comes as the committee prepares to vote tomorrow on establishing hearings for impeachment, a clear escalation in that effort. but on the topic of guns no matter what they pass in committee, nothing will ultimately happen unless donald trump agrees to go along. a bipartisan group of senators made their last-ditch effort to bring him around on background checks on a phone call this afternoon. they are expecting him to make a decision tomorrow. specifics of course still up in the air.
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republican pat toumy described their phone as this. joining us now from capitol hill, democratic congressman ted lu, you are so busy, we are grateful that you're here. do you believe donald trump and the republicans are interested in doing anything on gun control, sir? >> i believe that abe ram lincoln had a right when he said public sentiment is everything. without it nothing can fail, without it nothing can succeed. we know that their policies on gun control and gun safety have not worked over many decades. and what we need is to try a new approach. that's why the house judiciary
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committee we passed out three gun safety measures late last night. >> take us through what happens next. is the strategy for them to pass and then go over to the senate? or is the strategy something less than that to shame the republicans or to get some political votes on the board? >> so the house of representatives already passed on a bipartisan basis a universal background checks bill to u.s. senate. it is 97% support among the american public. we are trying to put pressure on senator mitch mcconnell to take that bill up for a vote. if it goes up for a vote it will pass the u.s. senate. and our hope is that we can get that through to their presidency and have donald trump sign it. we do need the public to continue calling in to both the white house and to the u.s. senate to get them to take that bill up for a vote. >> let me turn to the investigations. your committee turning to what would seem like a bucket of abuse of power, largely witnesses that were named in robert mueller's report, people like don mcgahn, the former
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