buttigieg, with amy klobuchar? who are the alternatives? out of it. that's going to wrap up hour of some of the alternatives aren't "msnbc live." on the stage. >> yeah. some of the alternatives aren't coach craig. on the stage. we loved seeing you in the when you talk about the second half of the field, you are in a "today show" team. do you have any coaching teams position to benefit most if joe biden's candidacy for whatever for us? >> my only tip would be don't do reason flails or falters. it, andrea. don't do it. >> i don't know. i think you've got another whole if you're beto o'rourke you career out there. could benefit or pete buttigieg, thank you, craig melvin. and might now on "andrea you could benefit. i think the second tier of mitchell" reports, ten candidates -- >> cory booker. >> cory booker. democrats, one big stage, the they're going to be seeking out people like kamala harris and pete buttigieg who are more big showdown in houston. attainable in the polls right the three front runners facing now if you're bay to o'rourke or off for the first time. and trying to make their mark in amy klobuchar, they're more the race. >> what i want to do is focus on attainable than elizabeth what we didn't get to do, let warren, bernie sanders, joe biden. >> andrew yang has had a them know what i will do as surprising rise in the polls. president. >> i see this as a chance to >> i didn't realize how popular talk about why i'm in the race, he was. and i assume that's what all the he has a lot of dedicated other democrats are going to do followers and it's really

too. >> every credible poll done in remarkable. i think -- look, the goal of the the last year has us defeating debate tonight -- i don't think there's going to be a lot of trump sometimes in double fireworks. i think the goal is to stay on digits. the stage and be invited to the >> shout out, the supreme court next debate. gives the president a big win in i think the dynamic change is prevents asylum seekers from out of iowa and yiedjoe biden h finding a safe haven here in the u.s. >> our people, a lot of people got to win place or show in in our country, and i would say iowa. if he comes in fourth, it's a very large percentage of going to be rough for him. the winner of iowa suddenly goes people, they don't want to have from getting two or three crossings illegal. they don't want to have open reporters covering them on a daily basis to like 100. borders. and house divided. it's a completely different the judiciary committee takes the first step, a baby step, dynamic that will follow them to new hampshire where there will towards an impeachment inquiry. be a different winner. what does it all mean? and if joe biden doesn't win depends on who you ask. >> what we are doing is carrying either of those, he's going to on an investigation as to have a tough time getting to whether to recommend, determine south carolina. he's got to survive this. joe biden is actually whether to recommend articles of ideologically the center of the impeachment against the democratic party. to joe's point, people want to president. >> if they want to impeach the president, bring it to the beat donald trump. floor. vote on it today. quit trying to do all of this but what voters who are more death by a thousand cuts. moderate and more cautious are not going to want take away my

health insurance, go medicare and good day, everyone. for all, these big giant proposals which the progressives i'm andrea mitchell. for the first time only ten candidates with joe biden and elizabeth warren facing off want. >> we have to leave it there. against each other on the same stage, will they go after each thank you so much. have a lot of fun out there in other or unite taking on the houston. we'll be watching. coming up, the border battle, president or attack the most the supreme court allowing enfo popular former president barack its toughest restriction on obama? migrants seeking asylum, 7-2 with me in washington joel decision. payne, former director from stay with us. hillary clinton's 2016 campaign. (classical music playing throughout) and msnbc political analyst rick tyler. melanie, first to you. you've been watching joe biden. is he braced for the action because it's going to be all against one, nine against one, tonight on that stage. >> that's right. biden advisers say we want to make this about elizabeth warren. first is joe biden. they're prepared for the fact

the incoming fire may come from the edges of the stage than from the senator with the momentum there, elizabeth warren, in the center stage with him. if you remember in the first debate the plan for joe biden with was to focus on his own forward-looking case, what he would want to do as president. of course then there was the confrontation with kamala harris, with some of the other candidates about immigration and bussing. they knew in the second debate they needed to be much more aggressive. the vice president knew he could take a punch. the strategy for the third debate is closer to the first one, but that doesn't mean he's not going to try to draw implicit contrast with senator warren. with e got a other preview of this in the recent weeks with had we talked about having a plan is great. that is senator warren's catch set yourself free with fleet. phrase, i have a plan for that. you need to be able to execute gentle constipation relief in minutes. on the plans. little fleet. big relief. try it. feel it. the health care, taking on the nra, climate, is something where feel that fleet feeling.

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warren in being the one to draw first blood. she's had a smooth-sailing summer. not many opponents have spent time attacking her. she's been able to rise in the polls and put out the plans she's able to point out. on the stage tonight i imagine he's going to do that. she might not need a moment at the expense of someone else but other people do. and now she's at the front of the stage. i imagine there are people on the stage that are going to want to take swipes at the idea of having plans but maybe not being able to execute them. elizabeth warren is no stranger to being on a debate stage probably preparing for those lines of attack. we've seen her defend the idea of progressivism and the big instruct cal change against john delaney and other moderates on the stages we've seen. these are the heavy hitters. these are the top ten hitters in the race. it's interesting to see how she draws contrast with biden on

policy or parodies of whose who may want to come after her for her big plans. >> especially bernie sanders a major victory for the because bernie sanders has gone trump white house in its down in the polls as elizabeth crackdown on migrants at the border. the supreme court allowing the government to bar most central american migrants from seeking warren in many polls has gone asylum in the u.s. while the up. >> and senator sanders is coming legal fight over the policy continues to play out in lower in saying i'm a front runner. courts. it was a 7-2 vote and unsigned his intention before the debate and during the debate will be opinions, the supreme court saying the administration can between joe biden and senator enforce new rules denying asylum warren. since the second debate, we've seen senator sanders polls at least stop dropping, his numbers stop falling. we've seen the big crowds come request in a person failing to apply in another country. back. he had 10,000 people in colorado joining me now is nbc news on monday. justice correspondent julian he also released five policy proposals. ainsley. this is a major set back. each time he released the proposalals whether it's doesn't the court usually let a criminal justice reform or the stay continue until they get the case? >> well, not in this case, $16.3 trillion climate change plan, they're called the andrea. we should keep in mind that yes, boldest, most progressive. this is still working out in

they want him to use the energy, the momentum, and convert that lower court. it isn't the final say. they are just lifting the stay to show how he's going to get it while that continues. done. he will be the one to lead the same thing happened a few progressive change but also months ago on the border wall highlight he believes he can take on donald trump and saying the trump administration highlight those polls that say could begin construction while in a head to head match up they continued arguments in the between bernie sanders and donald trump, bernie sanders can lower court. so, this could work its way back win. they believe that that -- up to the supreme court later, and there could be a different combining those two ideas, being decision. but for now, the trump progressive and progressive who can take on donald trump, that's administration is going forward the lane he will be most and guidance already went out successful in and that's what we today to asylum officers saying expect him to highlight tonight. that any migrant who came here >> joe biden has been tweeting and tweeting barack obama was a after july 16th who has not gone great president. through their first security we don't say that enough. screening -- that would be the joel payne, one of the missteps initial interview to see if they from the last debate according to a lot of people -- we all have asylum, if they have not watched it -- was going after gone through that as of july the obama record to go after 16th, then they are subject to this and would be sent back, biden but trying to take down denied the right to seek asylum the most popular democrat. here because they would have had he and michelle obama, where does that get the candidates? to seek asylum in one of the countries they passed through. this is specifically targeting >> that was quite the unintended the central americans who passed through mexico on their way consequence last time. here. >> and there was dissent from

i get the sense that message has been delivered not just by the sonia sotomayor and ruth bader party leaders but by voters. ginsburg saying this up ends long-standing policy. >> they dissenting against this. another president i think will take center stage is the current but there are four justices on that side, the supreme court has occupant of the white house. >> you think they should go after donald trump? >> sure. tipped as the administration has as a democrat they should go been able to put more after donald trump. >> such a professional. conservative justices on the >> but i think he's going to be bench. while we continue to see things a more central part of the blocked larly in the ninth discussion. >> absolutely. >> because of his erratic circuit, the story looks behavior in recent weeks, different in the supreme court and that's exactly what the because of the fact that the trump administration had in mind president is starting to lay out when they started unrolling a battle lines for how he's going lot of these policies beginning around the time of last fall to attack the field next year. i think you're going to see a when they had their latest lot more of these candidates victory, getting a conservative on the bench with brett talks about president trump and kavanaugh. how they will combat him and then they started to unroll even more conservative policies contrast to president trump. expecting that one day they will >> in fact foreign policy has have the victory we're seeing in been ignored in most of these the supreme court now, andrea. debates, but rick tyler, they've got to talk about the fact that >> indeed. julia ainsley at the justice the national security adviser has been fired on twitter. department. thank you so much. coming up, help wanted.

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>> yeah, obviously that's a rel concern for a lot of democratic voters that we're hearing more and more about. i've been getting questions from campaigns about what i see on a daily basis in term of his performance. that's why these big moments are important. the biden campaign thinks it's a media narrative than something voters are interested in. these debate moments are as much about joe biden being able to remind democrats his electability is a strength and he's ready to go toe to toe on the debate stage. he's also going to look for any opportunity he can to pivot the conversation to foreign policy given the tumult in the past week. the economy is seeing weakness and we see shake ups in the foreign policy team, the president is going to be doubling down on his worst instincts and that puts a premium on having a trusted

voice they have in their candidate joe biden. >> of course hillary clinton campaigned in 2016 on the fact and, you know, john wasn't that it was too dangerous to in line with what we were doing. elect donald trump, a novice, and actually in some cases he not stable on foreign policy. thought it was too tough what we were doing. that didn't work. mr. tough guy. you know, you have to go into clearly there is something else going on with iraq. going into iraq was something he felt very strongly about. so, we're right now over $7 trillion into the middle east. >> president trump kicking john bolton as he heads out the door. what does it mean for the national security team as the white house faces what to do about real wars and potential conflicts around the world. joining me now is samantha power, ambassador to the un who served on president obama's national security council. her book is "education of an idealist." congratulations on the new book, and it is a privilege to see you begin. >> action the. >> i want to ask you about john bolton. you worked in the white house.

how can the national security council work after you've had, for 17 months, very little c consultation. this is hardly the way brent sko scoff and others worked the national security team. you saw it up close. >> yeah, the essence of why you have a national security council is you bring all agencies together, hear from all of them because they each bring different perspectives, intelligence perspective and perspective about the economy which is in some peril at the moment. all those perspectives matters and they get channelled and turned into options. once the president made a decision, the national security apparatus is notified and all of them go out and fan out and try to implement and execute. since the beginning of this presidency no such process has existed. we used to have these papers you would read in advance of

meetings so everybody would start with the same facts. no process exists. indeed so many of the great experts who know china like the back of their hands or sanctions policy or put in place sanctions against iran that then give rise to the nuclear agreement, so many of those experts have either been kicked out the door or left because they felt there was no process, that nobody was listening to expertise. so, bolton was more of an adviser, a kind of counselor. and when president trump stopped hearing what he wanted to hear which was you're right mr. president, what a brilliant idea mr. president, which is what john bolton said when he was on fox news. he knows when you challenge the president, you usually get the ax, it's good he expressed a dissenting viewpoint but he was very eager to bomb iraq. but we know the national

security is broken. >> well, whoever is chosen is going to have to agree and be in line with mike pompeo as the last person standing. everyone else is acting this and acting that. and clearly pompeo has the -- has figured out how to work with the president and give him what he wants. and then why not just have mike pompeo because the national security adviser and now there's reporting they're considering to the henry kissinger model of the secretary of state being the national security adviser. good idea, bad idea? >> while he's at it, maybe he'll be secretary of homeland security. >> stephen miller is doing all of that. >> right. but what i mean is each of these jobs is incredibly important job. we need secretary of homeland security, deputy of homeland security, someone for national intelligence. that was created after 9/11. we need a secretary of state

who's going to be active in solving problems around the world and not just doing what the trump administration is doing which is manufacturing crises where done existed. so, the idea you can do these two jobs at once and that you can have a successful national security policy when dissent is not allowed, these are both -- we know from our history whether it's vietnam, iraq, from any foreign policy failure through our history what it means when you get group think and the like-minded and the centralization of power and very few people. >> you have experience of disagreeing with president obama on syria with the chemical attacks and felt he should have taken action. how did that feel for you? you write about it in the book. >> yeah, well -- >> being isolated at times. >> isolated. i think, you know, i knew going into the obama administration that when you're the human rights adviser that are there other forces at work. but i try to bring readers into

the situation room so they can live the dilemmas as we live them. if they're going to the president of the united states, they're tough calls to begin with. that was a case where the president wanted initially to use military force to punish assad for killing 1,400 people. and then looked around and had not enough allies with him, felt the american people weren't supportive of that in the wake of iraq, and thought that dismantling the chemical weapons program would be one route to, again, deterring assad or preventing assad from using those weapons again. my worry was our credibility auz at stake because he said we were going to use military force. when congress pulls the rug out from under the president, that's not good for the president on any issue. >> tom freedman wrote it's an unusual combination of autobiography, moral obligation, and manual on how to breast feed a child with one hand and talk

to john kerry on a cell phone with the other. tom describes it as a wonderful book which it is is the way you weave together all the threads and reveal personal things, personal failure. in the obama campaign when you were caught off guard calling hillary clinton, his opponent, a monster and had to leave the campaign. that was a very public failure. >> yeah, watching yourself become a global scandal is unique experience. i don't recommend for any of your viewers or you. >> we've all been through this. i have to tell you. >> that's true. >> not global. >> but we're out of time on the left and right, there's a lot of skepticism about u.s. leadership in the world, about internationalism. by telling my own story, warts and all, and opening up my immigration to the united states at a time that immigration is controversial, to tell the story

of the privileges the country gave me and what it's like inside the government, trying to promote human rights, trying to look out for security. at the same time i have a family. to make it a relatable story at a time when i think we need to build a constituency for international engagement again. >> in the rose garden -- i guess it was the day you were announced as un ambassador. he just won the hearts of everyone. we've seen him running around in the ambassador's residence. >> that's an asset when you show other countries that family matter. that also creates commonality with others. we're not just big americans strutting around the world. we're, in that sense, just like them. >> pew pulitzer prize winner.

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impeachment inquiry. some call it an impeachment investigation. there is no legal difference between these terms. with these new procedures, we will begin next week an aggressive series of hearings investigating allegations of corruption, obstruction, and abuse of power against the president. >> a high stakes clash on capitol hill today, the house judiciary committee taking its first tentative step towards impeachment, inquiry, whatever you want to call it, despite the political risks of going down this track. >> i stand by what we have been doing all along. i support what is happening in the judiciary committee because that enables them to do their process of interrogation in their investigation, and i salute them for that work. >> is the specific language not important?

how should the american people understand it? >> you're the only ones so in this -- >> that's not true, ma'am. >> it is true. come with me sometime and you'll hear what the american people are saying. they understand that impeachment is a very divisive measure. but if with e have to go there, we have to go there. that's the only question -- that's all i'm going to say about this subject. >> well, joining me now, nbc's jeff bennett on capitol hill who pressed pelosi today on the impeachment debate, sam stein, stein and amy stoddard. jeff, you and the speaker sort of mixing it up today on impeachment and whether there is a political risk or how they're going to proceed. what is your take away? >> that's right, andrea. and the point i was trying to make -- the reason i was pressing her for clarity and this isn't a silly semantic argument. the work of the committee which

the speaker says she supports, they're trying to build the public case against president trump, trying to paint a full picture of what the democrats see as established power of abuse and corruption to move forward impeachment. at the heart of my question was how will you sell that argument to the american people if your own caucus can agree what to call it. you have nadler using the word inquiry, she's using investigation. she would not use the word inquiry. that's what i was trying to get her to explain out. she's trying to give cover to her caucus. her job is to preserve the majority she now enjoys. so, you have the moderate members who in the 2018 midterms won districts that in 2016 voted for donald trump. i think her being oblique in this whole thing -- we should say she specifically says she supports the work of judiciary. when she's being oblique about the language, i think it allows those members to take cover under her, andrea. >> and sam there are only 40

working days left before they leave. how are they going to do an impeachment, quote, inquiry, hold hearings, get witnesses bhwho are refusing to appear and get anywhere before 2020? >> they are not. this has been a long drawn out process driven by concerns that if you go too aggressively on impeachment it would backfire in terms of moderate democrats and give president trump the victimhood he claims. now we're at a place where the timeline is crunched. people have talked about can you draw it into the democratic primary season when they start voting? i don't see why not. but they don't want to go there. pelosi's put herself in a position where she's now having to argue nomenclature and it's not a really great argument she's waging. >> it seems that both sides, the white house with their blocking of any of these witnesses, and

pelosi are trying to run out the clock. >> right. look, let's be clear. she doesn't want this to be clear. but i think actually muddying this up is actually politically smart. this is not like are you pregnant or not. next year if the base says you never even took it seriously, what were they to do? this is taking it seriously. it's putting in place a process which they can investigate and litigate. they're hoping for a few surprise court wins before election day next year. maybe they'll get them, maybe they won't. but in the meantime they have to show they're taking potentially ten counts of credible accusations of obstruction of justice seriously and potentially scores of emoluments violations where the president continues to profit off the presidency. those are taken seriously. that way they say they reach critical mass or didn't, but that they looked in all along. >> and jeff guns because we are beginning to hear from lindsey

graham and after the interview we had with chris murphy and the conversations with the white house, there seems to be some cement cracking around the opposition to background checks. let me play a little bit of lindsey graham just moments ago out in the hallway. >> i don't know how you get around the idea that a man who was adjudicated mentally ill was denied a gun purchase when he went to a gun store, wound up buying a gun from a man who sells guns on the side, and there's no background check. >> [ inaudible question ] >> yes. >> the answer yes to whether his position on toomey mansion is beginning to shift. jeff? >> yeah, and i think andrea he was talking about the odessa shooter because if i have it right, that's how the odessa gunman got that gun. so, yes, the you sissue here is

expanded federal background checks, failed to pass the senate twice. the reason why you have these senators pointing to the white house and saying it's president trump who has to give us cover is because you have roughly, i think 29 senators here in 2013, republicans who voted against it. so, if they come back and change their vote and vote for it, they're going to need president trump to give them the cover so they're not catching it from the nra and the right flank. so, i think it's instructive and significant to hear lindsey graham make that comment because we know lindsey graham has the president's ear. we expect based on the timeline that the president gave those senators, we expect to hear something from the white house today. we're not sure if it's going to be legislation written out in black and white. but we hope to get direction from the president about support. >> chris murphy just tweeted out in response to lindsey graham and a lot of other things a lot of pieces are in motion right now. keep paying attention. sam, you begin to feel something

may be happening. certainly the polling would tell the president this is time to move. >> everything from our reporting is something is coming very quickly. there was a little bit of discouragement i picked up yesterday after a phone call between the white house and senators. the feeling was if trump was ready to endorse something like mansion toomey he would have been there by now. >> he spent time talking about other things. >> i was told that as well. this lindsey graham quote is significant. the question is did senator graham talk to trump before he said this? is he giving indication of what's to come from the white house when they submit proposals? or is he just freelancing? knowing that lindsey graham talks to president trump. >> i think something might be happening. jeff bennett is not just standing outside some random bus stop on capitol hill. he's out there because the republicans are about to board those buses to go to their retreat. and i know you're going to snag

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did you tell your chief of staff to have noaa disavow the forecasters that said that alabama was not going to get hit. >> no, i never did that, that is a whole okay by the fake news media. they talk about florida and alabama, that is just fake news. right from the beginning it was a fake story. it's all fake, president trump denying reports that surfaced that he personally ordered aides to contradict his weather forecast. the washington post reporting that the white house chief of staff told wilbur ross to fix the embarrassing problem after they corrected the president's

misstatement. general council in the clinton administration. moni monica, how unusual would it be for the commerce tech tear to noaa to falsify what happened and basically tell the scientist to lie and cover it up. >> it is completely unprecedented on a weather frakt. on climate it has happened in the past and that is why my boss, the administrator of noaa put in an integrity policy that is unprecedented. for a storm forecast to be corrected that way due to political pressure from above. >> fake news, jeff mason. you heard the accusation many times. >> i have. he is denying he did that but the reporting from our

colleagues from the post and new york city time social security pretty solid and it would be in line with a friend behind president trump's views when he sees something that could be critical of him. he pushes back. so it would certainly not seem unlikely. >> when you looked at that map, we're showing it now with that bulge on the side, the protrusion, if you will, done in sharpy and not even done very well, from your observation, you have been with him all of the way. you have been to all of these summits with him, you were will him in helsinki and france. so you know, i know you can't do andwriting analysis, but what is your best judgment? >> i can't do it and i don't know, but it does not seem out of the realm that it is something that he would have done or directed an aid to do,

he was just doubling down on alabama for days. giving the story legs in a way when it may not have if he just said it turns out that data was older and not relevant at this point, but he didn't do that, that's not his instinct to do anything on policy related or otherwise, and it's not what he did in this case. >> more broadly speaking we're seeing a trend here throughout the government where good solid science is being negated and denied. we're seeing water splugs standards being lowered here as we sit here for today. and scientists in these agencies are being under cut. >> yes, they are. i think it is really important then for and they are calling our president out on that. we write about this ere day trying to bring truth to power making sure that people know

that what the president says, our air is cleaner and our watt sere crystal clean, that it is just not true, and now he is crossing a line that had not been changed. and particularly now when the weather is more like a national security crisis than ever before, it is really critical that be correct. >> in fact the national security implications of climate change, the president, you were at the summit, and the president did not even attend. we have military leaders talking about the importance of this, the navy is concerned. our diplomatic and global affairs provider is telling us how concerned we are about our bases. which could be well under water. it is affecting migration and it is affecting the coffee krobs in latin america that is one of the

things that is disempowering people. >> the science is better than i, but the science is 100% clear about climate change happening. and it is something that the president has cast doubt on for multiple reasons. politically, the political reasons being one of them, one of his first acts was to pull the yiesz out of the paris acco accord, and he didn't want to talk about whether or not he believed it was man made. it was part of this president disregarding science. at the same time he is saying i believe in, i want clean water and clean air, but actions speak louder than words and his actions on this have been different from the consensus of the scientific community. >> we have to leave it there unfortunately. thank you very much. >> thank you for being with us today. >> keep it right here on msnbc for our expert live analysis after the third democratic

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