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thanks for watching. i'll be back next saturday at 2:00 p.m. eastern time. the news continues right now with my colleague. thanks. i am live at msnbc news headquarters in new york. this hour former vice president joe biden delivers an important speech on race in alabama. supreme court justice brett kavanaugh under fire for alleged sexual misconduct and the president comes to his defense. the united auto workers union is set to go on strike at midnight. it's the first nationwide strike since 2007. democrats are fired up after republicans pull a power move. one of those democrats who is
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now going viral joins me live in just a bit. but we begin with race taking center stage on the campaign trail. today former vice president joe biden delivered what his campaign calls his biggest speech yet on race. biden gave an impassioned address at the historic church in birmingham, alabama. today marks the anniversary of the horrific bombing there that killed four incent young girls. >> that blast took aim at the very foundations of this community in 1963. it pblew wide open the door for the -- it shook my generation to its core. it helped us realize in other parts of the country different races and helped us realize working on the fringes of the movement was not enough.
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we must acknowledge that there can't be no realization of the american dream without grappling with the original sin of slavery. >> this comes after a response to a question. it involved repairing the legacy of slavery. joining me now is mike. thanks for joining us. this was really an important moment for biden and his team. it's a speech that really highlights what is essentially a paradox in biden's campaign on the issue of race. he has some of the strongest support from african-american voters, but he has also faced the intense scrutiny for past statements on racial issues. how was the speech received from your vantage point? >> reporter: absolutely right. this is an important moment for the form eer vice president. we know in the past few weeks there has been additional scrutiny and focus on the former
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vice president's performance on the campaign trail. he was very much at home. he was very warmly received. the former vice president joins a deep reservoir of good will. for biden this subject matter is at the core of his candidacy. he wanted f ed to broaden the conversation and talk about the complicated history on race. he said the united states has not always lived up to the values. he seemed to acknowledge the burden on white americans in having the difficult conversations about race. let's take a listen to how he described it this morning. >> those of us who are white try, but we can never fully understand no matter how hard we try. we're almost at this next phase
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of progress in my view. it's hard, heart wringing work, but there is almost 330 americans. i know there is nothing we can't accomplish if we stand together, stand against hate, stand up for the best our nation believes, honesty, decency, treating everyone with dignity and respect. >> reporter: so biden laying out the moments of tragedy and setbacks in the battle for equality like the solemn anniversary here in birmingham. more recent incidents of domestic terror. and this wasn't the only stop for the vice president today. he is going to be taking the stage in miami with his first real direct appeal to latino voters directly in talking about the importance of including them in the american family, as well.
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>> thank you for the update. we have breaking news to share with you right now. president trump defending supreme court justice brett kavanaugh after allegations of sexual misconduct resurface. kavanaugh adamantly denies the claims. joining me with all the details is nbc white house correspondent kelly o'donnell. this really appears to be a major new development. what is the latest you're hearing. >> reporter: if everyone remember whz brett kavanaugh first came on to the national scene and his confirmation hearing was so divisive because of allegations back during his high school and college years some 30 plus years ago of being too aggressive with sexual interactions. brett kavanaugh denied any -- claims made by another woman who
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was a classmate at yale. that didn't really develop into a full part of the investigation of the senate at the time. here we are more than a year later. and there is a new book that examines the kavanaugh confirmation. and there is new reporting from nbc news that goes back, as well, and looks at some of the allegations from that time. nbc news, our colleagues have been working on this and have been able to find that there were other instances, another allegation separate from what we know at the time that had been brought to the attention of the fbi during the confirmation process, but that did not go forward with any further investigation or development. part of why this has spiked with new interest is that because of the book, because of new reporting, there are democrats on the campaign trail for 2020 who are saying kavanaugh may have lied during this confirmation and therefore should be impeached and removed
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from the high court. that, of course, has brought out president trump with a forceful defense of his choice for the high court, one of two that he has placed on the supreme court. and it has unearthed the allegations that kavanaugh had denied. in part of this, there is a new incident that is very similar to the sort of nature of what was explored during his confirmation process of kavanaugh as a high school or college student drinking too much, getting carried away in his interactions with women, exposing himself, that kind of thing. he denied it at the time. we have reached out to kavanaugh and have not gotten comment about this allegation. part of what democrats are saying is that the process itself of investigating the allegations was not fully investigated, that the fbi did not do enough. they looked at some of these claims through the judiciary committee, but did not look at
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all of it. so it opens up these wounds from a year ago. it opens up the questions about is kavanaugh fit to serve on the high court? of course, that brings out the defensiveness of president trump and those who support kavanaugh. mitch mcconnell today tweeting that he expects kavanaugh to be on the court for years to come. and democrats were saying these were circumstances that should be explored more fully and an impeachment process is warranted. the process does exist, but under the current circumstances where you have republicans in control of the senate, it seems unlikely and putting more heat on kavanaugh and more fire for both sides of the political spectrum as we head into a campaign season. >> president trump has a lot at stake here. kavanaugh, a big part of his legacy. coming up this hour, i'll talk live with democratic a congressman who serves on the house judiciary committee. another major story is the united auto workers union strike
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set to start tonight at midnight. roughly 49,000 members of general motors plants will stop working. last night, union allowed the collective bargaining agreement to expire. this is the first strike in a dozen years when gm workers were out for two days and comes after contracted negotiations broke down. wages, health care, temporary employees, job security and profit sharing. these were all some of the issues on the negotiating table. gm says it offered wages more than $7 billion u.s. investments as well as 5,400 jobs. now, it's called the union's decision to strike quote disappointing. joining me to talk about all of this. there have been months of negotiating. why do you think the sides couldn't come to some sort of deal? even though gm laid out a
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lot of its proposal today, we don't know a lot of the details of it. it said it committed to best of class health care which auto workers have, but we really don't know if that's as good a plan as we have currently or if gm is stepping back a little bit. in a broader sense, our workers have been upset with gm since november when it announced plans to shut down four u.s. plants and a canadian plant involved, too. they feel like that was a violation of the previous contract. gm said market conditions changed. the auto workers had been upset that the new blazer suv is being assembled in mexico even though the engines are built in the united states. in some ways, when that happened, it seemed like we may have been heading to this point
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all along. >> the strike doesn't include ford and chrysler. do you think this could be a sign of maybe what's to come for other companies? >> well, what the uaw does every four years is picks one company that it's going to negotiate the first contract with. and that becomes the template that it takes to the other two companies and tries to use that as a pattern, which usually works pretty well. so it's likely that the other two negotiations will be less contentious. in 2007, there was the two-day strike against gm and then a very short strike against what was then chrysler. >> this really could have a significant impact on detroit and the auto community. we appreciate you breaking it down for us. thank you. we go to escalating tensions in the middle east following saturday's coordinated drone strikes on two key saudi arabia
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oil facilities. iran is rejecting secretary of state mike pompeo's accusation that iran is responsible for the attack. pompeo accused ta ron of an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply. yemen's rebels claimed responsibility for the strike saying they launched the attacks themselves with ten drones, but pompeo is contending there is no evidence those attacks came from yemen. joining me now to discuss is nbc news foreign correspondent sarah harmine. analysts are calling the attack really a game changer in the con frntration between iran and saudi arabia. this could have serious implications. what's the latest response from the white house? >> reporter: the plblame game continues. white house counselor doubled down the claim pointing the finger at iran.
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interestingly, she also left the door open to a possible meeting between president trump and iranian president next week in new york, something that was considered a possibility before the attack in saudi arabia. >> you know this president and his national security team and secretary pompeo, our nation's chief diplomat keep many options on the table particularly when it comes to retaliating against maline behavior. >> reporter: it's interesting to note that neither secretary pompeo nor kellyanne conway released any proof and seems to follow a pattern of plaming iran for attacks. you remember over the summer the u.s. accused iran of carrying out attacks and the u.s. military put out video evidence that it said backed up the claim of iranian responsibility. so that's something to watch for. are we going to see any proof? there is a group that has taken responsibility for this attack,
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where saudi arabia is engaged in what is a proxy war with iran. in the past, they have received support from iran and they say they use ten drones to carry out this strike. that's a pretty scary claim if it's true. we don't know where the drones were launched from or how they managed to hit facilities deep inside saudi territory. 500 miles, still a lot more digging to do. this is going to inflame tensions across the region and potentially between tehran and the u.s. >> one of the big questions is the financial impact all of this could have. saudi arabia responsible reportedly for five percent of the global daily output of oil production. so how could this potentially impact oil prices here in the u.s.? i know it's hard to have a crystal ball, but it could have a serious implication. >> absolutely. the answer to your question will depend largely on how quickly they can return to normal output. the facility hit is the world's
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largest oil processing facility. the damage was significant, significant enough to reduce the oil output by about 5 million barrels a day. that's five percent of the daily supply. of course they have spare capacity for situations like this, but they won't last forever. in addition, the u.s. has indicated it would be willing to tap into its own reserves if necessary potentially as part of a kwoerd nalted release. again, not forever. this question of how long the output is going to be reduced, that is key. >> dramatic escalation in the gulf confrontation. thank you. coming up, presidential contender loses an endorsement to joe biden. can he recover? or is this a sign of more of what's to come? sign of more of what's to come
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new today, an endorsement switch from an embattled candidate. pulling his support from julian castro and is now supporting joe biden. representative gonzalez says at this point in time, we need to narrow the field and unite as democrats to defeat trump. that's why he is moving his support to vice president biden. castro's campaign spokesman responded saying congressman gonzalez is entitled to endorse
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whichever candidate he feels represents his values. secretary castro will continue to fight for a better future for all americans including a health care system that inshurz all have access to quality coverage. joining me now is david goodfriend and adam goodman. thank you both for being here. let's start with you, david. congressman gonzalez stresses the need to narrow the field. could it be a sign of more endorsements to come for biden? >> i think its a reflection on how secretary castro handled the debate. i think he was clumsy. i think that mayor pete jumping right in saying this is why people are sick of politics immediately took the air out of the room for castro. i think what we're seeing here is there is a way to attack the front runner without alienating
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yourself from the democratic base. it's a delicate dance, but i don't think secretary castro helps himself in that debate. you will notice that all the other candidates went out of their way to sort of be polite to each other. his attacks stuck out a little bit, i thought. whoever the nominee is will have to go up against donald trump who is not exactly polite on the debate stage. so there is going to come a time where the democratic field narrows and pivots to more harsh attacks. i just think mr. castro sort of jumped the gun and did so in a way that was inelegant. do you think that this was a rebuke to castro's performance at the debate, as well? >> julian castro is looking for a breakout moment. i think he ended up further breaking up a campaign. there was a bigger issue that's in play here.
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the real time reaction to castro's attack was a lot of people said that was wrong. it was nasty. we feel sorry for joe biden. the residual impact of his attack and attacks that have come at the vice president kamala harris and others really this point. is the vice president, is joe biden still sharp enough, still there enough to be able to go toe to toe with the president of the united states in the fall of 2020? and that has a residual kind of long tail effect about questioning whether or not joe biden is going to be a front runner that can stand the test of this race to come. i can tell you that he in terms of generating the one thing he needs to generate which is passion, which is the creating a sense of movement and everyone coming out of their seats and saying we believe again, i think he has his work cut out for him. that's a big problem for the vice president when it comes to the first three contests next
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year, two of which are caucuses. i think if you don't have a passionate base behind you, you are going to find yourself like jeb bush did in '16 and hillary clinton in 2008 going backwards, not forwards. >> joe biden did release a passionate speech today. do you think that will help soothe criticism about biden's comments at the debate when asked about the legacy of sla slavery. >> i think it under scores a truth about the biden campaign which is as long as he can maintain a sizable lead across all age groups in the african-american community, then some of the early states where that vote is absolutely crucial will help him. the minute that starts to erode, he is in trouble. i think it is imperative that elizabeth warren or bernie sanders if they want to make enroads with that, they have to show equal passion and equal
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focus on that vote. and it's critical to this nomination. now, i just want to go back to something my republican friends said. i actually agree with him. it's not fashionable for us democrats to agree with republicans. what he said was very true which is bill clinton used to say republicans fall in line and democrats fall in love or at least want to fall in love. if you look at the presidential fields from past elections, the insider establishment candidate in modern elections has not won. i'm thinking about hillary clinton, john kerry. but the outsider who is agitating to move the party in a different direction has one, barack obama, bill clinton, jimmy carter. they all fit that category. so it doesn't really fit with history to assume that the former vice president who is really the establishment candidate is going to carry the day. that's really not when democrats have been at their best. however, joe biden is in the lead.
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and it really falls to the next tier of candidates to try to go after those key elements of support including the african-american vote. >> give us a response before we go. there are a lot of polls showing that they were recently all picked over trump in a general election. this is actually abc news and washington post. do you think this indicates that president trump has a reason to be worried? >> i think it will be a very competitive campaign next year. i really advise everyone who is watching, who watches the polls very carefully, the first and only poll that really will take is going to be in the cold of winter in iowa, a caucus state. if you don't get your supporters passionate enough to come out and vote, all the national polls will be turned on their head very quickly. that's the biggest concern that the front runner must have
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welcome back. a growing number of americans are fighting to tackle the climate change crisis and that includes our nation's youth. concerned about growing up in a warming world, teens across the world are calling for action from their governments to combat climate change. a recent poll by the washington post found a large majority of americans do say climate change is a major problem or crisis. youth climate organizations like zero hour have been raising their voices in team-led protests. just last friday, students skipped school across the country. they held a climate strike in washington, d.c. and the protests took place in front of the white house. they had signs that said things like i would like to grow up, please. attendees including 16-year-old gretta thumbburg from sweden one of the biggest faces of the
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youth movement. and the question is what do the young people of this country really want to do to try to safe guard their future? what can be done? joining me now is director of communications for zero hour. thank you for being here. we applaud you on your hard work at your young age. what made you want to devote so much of your time to combatting climate change? >> i'm 16 years old. i'm a member of generation z. and for me, climate change is personal. it's pretty much the determinant of my future and potentially my posterity's future. it's very froisenning for me when we have this impending apocalypse in front of our eyes and politicians aren't doing it's hard for me to not feel hopeless, but i'm here and fighting back against political inaction, against corporate lobbying and fighting the climate crisis. and another reason is that i'm
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from indiana, a state ranked 46th for air quality. a large part of this is primarily because of the coal mining industry and fossil fuel-driven industries, as well, throughout my state. >> don't feel hopeless. you give us all hope. walk us through what your group is specifically trying to achieve. >> zero hour is trying to achieve basically reaching zero emissions and part of that is we are advocating for the green new deal. we see ourselves as the generation of the green deal and advocating for climate justice. it's to reach zero emissions and not leaving anyone behind. that's just what the green new deal does. >> do you think the landscape is changing for youth to get more involved in issues like this? and how do you recrete people? >> i think the landscape is changing.
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we are being affected by things not just like climate change, but also growing student debt is another determinant and getting youth to be involved. as we saw with march for our lives, youth want to see change and we are tired of being pushed to the side by politicians and deemed too young to care, too young to be affected. it's our lives and future on the line. and the way we recruit people is do you want to have a future. i think just about everyone of us can say we do. we want to have a future that is sustainable. we want to have clean air and clean water. that is something that everyone can get behind. >> good luck to you. thank you so much for joining us and sharing your hard work with us. >> thank you for having me on. >> all this week, nbc news and msnbc are going to confront climate change with reports from al roker in greenland, lester holt in alaska and the nbc news team will be around the world
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we have new reaction to today's breaking news. president trump defending supreme court justice brett kavanaugh after allegations of sexual misconduct resurface. joining me now is steve cohen, member of the house judiciary committee. thank you for joining us. senator jones spoke with my colleague earlier today about this. let's take a listen to what they spoke about first. >> it is in fact that he lied to the committee, that's pretty serious allegation and people can be impeached for that. but i think the fact is this is inevitable. that's what i think the other side fails to recognize and what the president fails to recognize, that this was inevitable that someone would continue to investigate and get to the bottom of this. >> as we know, a supreme court justice is very difficult to impeach t. hasn't been done since 1805. do you think it is possible
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kavanaugh deserves to be impeached? >> as senator jones said lying in your hearings would be an impeachable defense and would put discredit if proven on the court. i don't think it's likely that he would be impeached especially at this time when we're concentrating on the president's misconduct. that's the primarily function and role of the judiciary committee and the house is to look into the obstruction of justice, obstruction of congress, the violations and abuse of power of this administration. now, it all kind of comes together. i think it was the senate committee that told the fbi to limit their investigative authority. i don't know if the president had anything to do with it or not. it's sad how the government has been so involved in so many things to cut edges and not do complete investigations and whether it was the senate committee or the president's administration that limited the fbi it was done and limiting people and reducing people's
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respect for the fbi and for justice in our country. >> it certainly raises questions about checks and balances. in this new explosive "new york times" story, it says allegations were not properly investigated by the fbi. so why would this be happening if this is accurate? >> i think that there was an effort. i think that there is -- in both the supreme court nominees that trump made and two nominations that were brought from the same source. i think i suspect those are the same people that put bill barr to him. bill barr is there for reasons of keeping these types of people on the court and nominating these people in the future. it's something that will go after donald trump. the judges he is appointed who are young and several inexperienced and not qualified according to the american bar association will continue to hold their seats for life.
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the supreme court appointments are so important. that's why the people that didn't vote for hillary because they didn't like her and wanted bernie were wrong. the people that voted for the socialist candidate, they were wrong, too. it was about the supreme court and it will be about the supreme court in to20, as well. that's the most important thing the president does and appointments that affect our country for a long time. it was a poor investigation. it was done wrong because they wanted to get kavanaugh on the bench. trump wants wins at any cost. and so they wanted to curtail the administration. i don't think the investigator went back to the house where dr. ford was allegedly assaulted and did much of an investigation there or tried to. he didn't try to confirm the witnesses of this lady at yale. that was unfortunate. i believe both dr. ford and the lady at yale. i believe it happened. i believed he lied to the
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senate. proving it and getting senators to vote to impeach a supreme court justice who is a trump favorite will not happen. >> possibly an exercise in futility. thank you so much for sharing your wisdom with us. joining me now, we have some more guests to talk about this very important topic who has investigated sexual assault cases in the past. also with me daily beast columnist jonathan alter. i have to ask you, what is your reaction to what we just heard from representative cohen? because the question is, can anything be done? can this move forward beyond just the court of public opinion? >> not right now. i think everything he said was absolutely right. it was a travesty that kavanaugh was confirmed. the stakes in the next election not just for the supreme court but for the entire federal bench
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are immense. but the problem the democrats have is that republican voters care more about the supreme court than democratic voters do. that might be starting to change with this story. what trump is able to do when something like this comes up is get his baize ase all revved upn and possibly get reluctant voters, sporadic voters who maybe weren't going to vote the next time to also get all revved up on the right. and on the democratic side, it gets people fired up, but also creates divisions because now the democratic candidates are all being forced to go on record. should he be impeached? if some of them said we're not at that point yet because we don't have the documents, which is accurate. you can't just impeach somebody like that without having a little bit more, they are then
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divided from the elizabeth warren was of the campaign who are for impeachment and creates more on the democratic side of the aisle. i think right now where we are in this story is that it is a net plus unfortunately for president trump. >> and president trump really using those tweets today supporting kavanaugh, doubling down on his support with his eye on 2020. he is just trying to energize his base? >> this is the only move the guy has is to throw red meat to his base. he can do it with this story even though we have a supreme court justice who lied under oath. the other problem the with bill 20 years ago, they made a decision that lying about a sexual matter even one that could be possible sexual harassment was not worth impeaching the president. so it's a little tough now for the democrats to say we have to
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impeach this guy because he lied about a sexual incident at yale. >> this is the perfect time to bring in jill. is this yet another case of allegations not being properly investigated? do you think evidence was suppressed in your opinion? is there anything that can be done? >> yes and yes. yes, i think evident was definitely concealed. the fbi told it othe lawyer for ramirez that they couldn't investigate without the full support of the senate and that they didn't have that. so they did not investigate her allegations and has been pointed out they also didn't completely investigate dr. ford's allegations. i think that both women and the american people deserve a full investigation, to know the full truth. so that's one issue which is how did the fbi handle this and why did they handle it this way? and what are the real facts? we need to know the truth, and
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we need to know whether he lied. a supreme court justice lying is an extremely serious charge skpmpt if it's true, it does deserve impeachment. it could also deserve a criminal charge, because, of course, it's also a felony to lie in your confirmation hearing. it's something that deserves to be punished. and we need to look at it. >> but supreme court justice hasn't been impeached in more than 200 years. you think this is something we could possibly see with republicans really going backing kavanaugh? >> yes. i mean, other judges have not only been impeached. they have been removed. in other words, they have also been convicted. justice chase was impeached, but he was not convicted. the charges against him were that he was making politically biassed opinions in the supreme court, which is, of course, a serious problem, but it's not the same thing as having
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committed perjury to get into the supreme court. so i think it does deserve to be looked at, to be investigated. i'm not jumping to a conclusion that he did do this. i'm jumping to the conclusion that the fbi didn't adequately investigate and that it needs to do so right now. and i don't know whether we can trust under the department of justice under william barr that they will ever do a full and fair investigation. that's not because i don't trust the fbi. it's because i don't trust attorney general barr or the president to leave their hands off the investigation. so i think that if we get the facts, that can make a difference. >> we're not going to get the facts under this administration. this is all going to have to wait for the next election. and there should absolutely be a new investigation, but it's not going to take place unless the democrats get control of the senate and the white house. some of the people involved in this, by the way, i know who brought some of the new allegations forward and the fbi didn't have time to investigate,
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is a tremendously credible witness. i have known him for a long time, and he's a person of great ta integrity. so you will see developments in this if the democrats take the white house. >> nbc news has not confirmed the information. but it will be interesting to see who is politically most in danger as a result of this, possibly susan collins. we will be watching. thank you for joining us and giving us your perspective. up next, we're going to be talking about political turmoil in the tar heel state. democrats are in an uproar after republicans sneak an important vote behind their back. one of the democrats is getting national attention after going viral. she joins me live, so stick around. viral. she joins me live, so stick around. laying ] mm, uh, what do you do for fun? -not this. ♪ -oh, what am i into? mostly progressive's name your price tool.
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politics in north carolina are back in the spotlight after what the state democratic calls an assault on our democracy by house republicans. it all erupted in dramatic fashion. it happened wednesday, september 11th, with half members present. they decided to override the veto. they called it a shameless theft of democracy. that's claimed they were told there will be no vote and those that were present, deb butler made her opinion known in this video i that has gone viral. >> if this is the way you believe democracy works, shame on you. this is not a program and you know it. the people of north carolina, you will answer to the people of
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north carolina. >> thatrt law maker north carola state representativer deb butl joins me now. thank you so much for being here. a lot has happened to you in the past few days. thank goodness one of your colleagues had a foresight to take a video of your impassioned speech. so how are you feeling? it has been a few days since that vote. whatat are your thoughts right now? >> rgigi, i thank you for havi me. ig can't tell you the amount o support i have had across this country. thisis has struck a nerve with people. it is organic. it is incredible. people are coming out of the woodwork for standing up and saying what they have been thinking all along. i'm overwhelmed. i'm grateful and humbled and overwhelmed. >> what can be done? isbe there action that can be taken? the north carolina house and senateca on the national stage. are you back in session tomorrow. >> that override hasn't beenn
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yielded to the calendar. so what's next for democrats on this issue? how are you going to handle it? >> i'llan tell you something, north carolina is going to be ground zero in 2020. rightly so. the corruption in north carolina is exhaustive. it's e not just 9/11 the episod you saw right there guygy. we have had illegal vote harvesting. absentee voterv harvesting in tt special election we had, illegal gerrymander voting district. it is rampant. the itgop, what was a super majority is hell bent on hang on to control at any cost. it is tragic. it is a violation of the constitution and people have had enough. >> i think if people saw the extra parts of your video that we didn't show, they would see how much it took for you to get where you were with the budget. you asked people you said to miss s their children's birthda, graduations to try to get this done.
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oemotionally, how has it all been forha you? and howor do you handle it? >> i tell you something, when you, as -- i'm a democratic whip and you ask people to forego big lifeo events like that, they d so and answer to cause every time to see them robbed of that was more thanob i could bear. listen, they couldn't beat us on the facts. they couldn't beat us on the policy. they couldn't bribe their way out of it. they couldn't beat us on a fair playing field so they had to keith. >> that is what isy burning people up across america as well, it should. listen, s losing fair and squar is one thing. but to have someone steal your hard work is just more than anyone can bear. >>yo all eyes will be on north carolina coming up as well as 2020 state rep deb butler. thank you for highlighting these issues and for joining us today. >> thank youoi guygy, i apprecie it. >> up next, the republican taking on trump, former south carolina governor mark sanford. he joins reverend al sharpton
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tonight's lead, well come to politics nation. tonight's lead, ali schiff, joe biden tries to clear the air addressing questions about his racial sensitivity on the campaign trail have dogged president obama's former vp, earlier today in birmingham marks the anniversary of the 16th street baptist church bombings in birmingham. a pivotal moment that killed four black girls 56 years ago today. biden with a campaign speech that connected the racial violence of the civil rights era and the trump era. >> the domestic terrorism and white supremacy has been the antagonists of our highest ideals from before this country. lunch mobs, bomb makers, lone
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