is not an asylum agency. if you want to solve this problem, then you need to start putting money into the asylum process, which is a working process. >> thanks to both of you and thank you for the work that you both did, we appreciate it and that's going to wrap up this hour of "msnbc live. "andrea mitchell reports" starts right now. hey, andrea. >> thanks very much, chris jansing. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," intel assessment the president points to iran as the likely source of a drone and missile attack against those saudi oil fields as mr. trump dials back his "locked and loaded" rhetoric for now. >> i don't want war with anybody. i'm somebody that would like not to have war. the united states is more prepared than any country in the history of -- in any history, if we have to go that way >> why in god's name would anyone contemplate the u.s. should go to war with iran to

protect saudi oil? >> and coming up here, senator tim kaine joins us from the armed services committee bright lights, big city. elizabeth warren drawing a hauj cro huge crowd to her new york rally. >> corruption has taken over our government and we are running out of time. we must root it out and return our democracy to the people. and yes, i got a plan for that and white house confidential in an unprecedented move, the trump administration severely limits the testimony of his former campaign manager even though corey lewandowski never worked in the white house, on the eve of today's first impeachment hearing. >> corey lewandowski, we expect, we hope he doesn't lie under oath he simply has to say "yes" and "true" to the facts in the mueller report and that itself will be very damning.

and good day, everyone, i'm andrea mitchell in washington where speaker nancy pelosi is demanding a briefing for all house members on the saudi attack and any military plans that may take place as congressional democrats warn the white house that it does not have constitutional authority to take action against iran on behalf of the saudis three people familiar with american intelligence are telling nbc news there are strong indications the attack originated from iran, sparked new fears of an escalating conflict and today the ayatollah khamenei shut the door on meetings between president rouhani and president trump in new york. moments ago at a heritage foundation event, vice president mike pence announced the secretary of state will be traveling to saudi arabia today. joining me now is nbc news white

house correspondent kristen welker, nbc political analyst robert costa, moderator of "washington week" on pbs, and michael leiter, former director of the national counterterrorism center welcome, all kristen, what's the lawsutest t you're hearing from the white house? mike pompeo is touting the oil supply and saying we never panic. so what do we know about where the president stands now he just boarded a plane traveling from albuquerque, new mexico, headings towards fundraisers in california. >> that's right, president trump not at the white house today, andrea, as he continues to monitor this situation he will be out in california, fundraising. he did strongly indicate that the administration believes iran is behind this attack, but

ultimately said that they want to gather the evidence and wait for saudi arabia to make a final conclusion worth noting that all of the informs out of saudi arabia at this point in time also pointing the finger at iran so the question becomes what happens next to that point, president trump has been sending some mixed signals, andrea, on the one hand saying the administration is locked and loaded and ready to respond, on the other hand really downplaying any talk of war. yesterday in the oval office he said effectively that's not the result he wants to see we pressed hogan gidley on this discrepancy earlier today. his response was, look, these messages are not in conflict, that ultimately, yes, president trump does want to resolve this diplomatically, but of course all options still very much on the table. now, in terms of diplomacy, hopes for meeting between president trump and president rouhani are almost none at this point. you have the supreme leader

saying we're not going to meet until you lift the maximum pressure campaign. you have the administration essentially saying we're not going to do that and certainly this latest provocation, if it is by iran, lowers the chances of them meeting next week at the u.n. general assembly at this point i'm told according to a senior administration official that top officials here, while secretary of state mike pompeo travels to saudi arabia, will be in touch with their counterparts, their allies and partners in the region as they continue to try to determine exactly what kind of response the administration will have, andrea >> and robert costa, we understand that mike pence also repeated that "locked and loaded" phrase a lot of signals coming out of the white house, the president saying he does not want war, after meeting with the pentagon defense secretary and other advisers yesterday we understand the pentagon does not want to take military action but why would mike pence then go back to the "locked and loaded"

rhetoric which got everyone so nervous? >> i was talking with some of my top republican sources on capitol hill this morning and asking them about their read on what this president will do. they say because of vice president pence's trip, they're saying the president really is leaving all options on the table. he's built a close relationship with saudi arabia and with israel and other allies in the region who are hostile and wary of iran. even though he's not interventionist interventionist instinctively at times, he's not ruling out military action. >> michael leiter, we're looking at an event that did not involve loss of american lives this is a congress that has in bipartisan way voted against arming the saudis in the civil

war in yemen the president vetoed that even throw there was a very good bipartisan majority against military action. there was a lot of evidence against the saudis on the khashoggi murder, and at the same time no loss of saudi life we know of, but it's taken out the largest oil field. you could make a national security case, i guess >> as you said, the president has been very deferential to mohammed bin salman and his relatively aggressive overseas moves in yemen, and of course khashoggi. regardless of if it's saudi interests or u.s. interests, there is some combination which has to be worried about a very sophisticated cruise missile attack against a key petroleum facility in saudi arabia saudi arabia is an ally, even if we disagree with them on points. this really highlights a huge vulnerability for saudi arabia, not the first attack but the most sophisticated attack. >> i understand now we've

confirmed drones and cruise missiles originating from iranian territory. that makes it very clear these are not surrogates, these are not proxies in the region. >> that's correct. >> this is not sea-launched which could be laid off on the revolutionary guard. >> ultimately there are two game-changing factors here one, the scale and sophistication of the attack it's like nothing we've seen in saudi arabia before. the second is coming from iran the fact is iran has long-enabled the houthi rebels in a way that we know that regardless of where they came from, this is iranian technology and they're doing it to poke at saudi arabia the fact that it's coming from iran, i think that obviously highlights the tension that exists in the gulf it doesn't mean, though, that the u.s. should be engaged in conflict, as members of congress have said. it does put an enormous weight on saudi arabia to respond militarily because for them to continue to be seen as somewhat passive and simply hit the houthis in yemen may really not

be sustainable for mohammed bin salman >> now, we understand from our own reporting, our colleagues here, courtney kube and team, ken dilanian, cara lee, josh letterman, our whole team has been working on this the military has been advising restraint, we understand that was said to the president at the national security council meeting. but there are military options, including taking out revolutionary guard posts, oil fields in iran >> absolutely. >> but going after territorial iran, this is not iraq this is a much bigger and more complicated military -- >> absolutely. and i have just tremendous trust and faith in general joe dunford, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. >> he's only chairman for the next two weeks >> he is, but his successor is a sophisticated global actor you always have contingency plans, ranging from anti-ship missiles in the straits to

antiair defenses we could hit in iran the difficult piece will be for the president, working with mohammed bin salman, to show the iranians that they've crossed the line and that there are consequences for that, but not escalating this in a way that this really does become a broader conflagration. >> robert costa, from your reporting, the last time the president in june backed off at the very last moment from attacking iranian targets after they had shot down a u.s. drone, and he said he didn't believe in this because it wasn't proportional, because there would have been a loss of life, what is your reporting telling you about the state of his thinking because it really is ultimately up to him. and we should point out, john bolton is no longer there. as you know better than anyone, a week ago exactly at this hour, john bolton was summarily fired or resigned in protest when the president was thinking about lifting sanctions on iran. >> when you talk to the president's confidants inside

and outside the white house, they point to bolton's ouster. the president's favorite government partner is not lindsey graham but senator rand paul from kentucky this comes days after the president was considering bringing the taliban to camp david to negotiate a deal to bring u.s. forces out of afghanistan. they say that noninterventionist note, that's his belief inside the white house, that still exists, as much as he's surrounded by all these different new foreign policy dramas >> and michael leiter, very briefly, what about these other actors we know that the rebels, the houthi rebels have been firing at the airport in riyadh, missile defenses had previously counteracted that. these missiles were apparently low-flying, and the drones as well, and evaded missile defense. >> that's right, that's why it's taking some time to determine

exactly where they came from this is the new reality in the middle east, low scale missile technology can evade very sophisticated and expensive defenses that's now the status quo across the region >> thank you so much, michael leiter, robert costa, kristen welker at the white house, thanks to all. coming up, start spreading the news elizabeth warren drawing record crowds in new york city's washington square park what does it mean for her campaign at's next. stay with us on "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. spending time together, sometimes means doing nothing at all. holiday inn. we're there. so you can be too.

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in case you needed another indication of elizabeth warren solidifying her place in the top ranks of the democratic contenders, take a look at thousands, thousands of people who gathered in new york city's washington square park last night for warren's anticorruption speech, and the people who then lined up for four hours taking selfies with her, at the sort aerobic selfie taking political staffers, volunteers, all pitched in to move the photo line along at ludicrous speed. joining me now, bill kristol, neera tanden, and the author of "the washington post"'s "power

up" newsletter neera, we see what elizabeth warren is building here, i know bernie sanders had huge crowds in the same location four years ago in new york city, and scared the heck out of a lot of the clinton people at the time, but this was pretty unusual, this early on >> yeah, no, i think it was a very impressive crowd. i also think her message yesterday was very important for the entire party, because she's talking about political corruption it's a way to have a start contrast with donald trump himself and a lot of people are looking for someone who can be an effective fighter against donald trump i think that was smart as well yes, she has great crowds and also i think the selfie line itself is really a test of endurance. it's a message that she's a pretty strong candidate in many ways and she can enduring long hours on the trail >> i think the selfie thing is

interesting, as a social media phenomenon i'm not on instagram so i defer to all you people to explain this to me i was talking with someone, a republican consultant who that is thought about this, he said, look, this isn't just one person getting a nice photo that person posts it, right, software, facebook, instagram, twitter. other people like it you find out other people who may be inclined to be for you. you're making a case to your friends for elizabeth warren, it isn't the warren campaign making the case they've decided it's a good investment of four hours >> it's the definition of going viral. i remember eight years ago, whenever it was, when barack obama first went out and started holding up the cellphone and saying, you know, text, and they were collecting cellphone numbers, that's what this isal about. >> it's not that different from donald trump's rope line antics. during the 2016 campaign, there were tons of stories of him, you

know, signing people's breasts, doing bizarre things on the rope line but he spent a ton of time >> probably not four hours >> no, probably not four hours i'm waiting for the proposal story to happen, while people are making online. >> in fact ben was posting people were going off and having dinner and coming back and getting back in line >> ben's coverage has been fantastic. >> they've all been great. >> they have been. but the day was really thoughtful for warren's campaign all around, not just the rally but the rollout of the working families party endorsement and the rollout of her anticorruption plan. it wasn't just a statement to trump but also to the progressive wing of the party, potentially to bernie sanders, that maybe it's time for him to get behind her and defeat joe biden who is the only other candidate who is in the top tier

with her >> someone not in the top tier who has fallen below the top tier was on the other side of manhattan at 30 rock, in fact, kamala harris, while elizabeth warren was doing retail politics one by one, kamala harris was on tv, on both fallon and "the tonight show" as well as rachel maddow with jimmy fallon, she was slow jamming the news >> this country's got a whole lot of hot button issues that we can touch on what's the first thing we need to do to give us all some relief >> let me start by saying this climate change is the single greatest threat facing our world today. that's why i am committed to passing a green new deal >> how are you feeling about your campaign and where you're at >> i'm feeling good. there is an incredible amount of enthusiasm rachel, obviously we're going a lot to the primary states, new

hampshire, south carolina, nevada people are standing in line for hours. >> neera >> what's happened in the primary so far is it's a national primary even voters in iowa, south carolina, want to see how you're doing nationally, how you're doing in the polls so it's a very smart strategy to go on rachel maddow, go on jimmy fall fallon >> go on all our shows >> do a lot of television, because it's very reinforcing. it used to be that iowa voters only cared about iowa. but now iowa voters are so focused on electability, they want to see how you're doing in national polls >> we'll have to leave it there for now, to be continued neera tanden, bill kristol, jacqueline, thank you so much. coming up in just under an hour, former trump campaign manager corey lewandowski will testify before the house judiciary committee in the first impeachment hearing. but what if anything will he reveal and before we go to break, a

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in the first tentative step toward impeachment by the house, the house judiciary committee will hear testimony today from one of president trump's most loyal supporters, his former campaign manager, corey lewandowski. a key witness in the mueller report, lewandowski is already using his appearance as a promotional tool for his own

potential senate campaign in new hampshire, challenging democratic senator jeanne shaheen. lewandowski's testimony will be limited after the white house invoked executive privilege, even though he never worked in the white house. despite their subpoenas, ron porter and rick dearborn, who were both blocked by the white house from testifying, cited absolute immunity. joining me now, mimi rocah, an msnbc legal nalyst, and matt miller, former chief spokesperson for the justice department, and an msnbc legal analyst. matt, what is absolute immunity? >> it's a claim by the white house that the president's aides who served in the white house don't have to even show up before a congressional testimony to testify, not because some

questions involve executive privilege, but they don't even have to show up. >> in my experience, they show up, they go through the rote of saying what their assertion of privilege is for the record, for the cameras, in public, and then of course they don't have to testify. >> that's exactly right, that's how it's often been handled in the past the white house is claiming the aides don't even have to do that we should note the one time a court has looked at this claim before, the bush administration tried to assert this same idea in the investigation of the firing of u.s. attorneys a district judge held that there is no absolute immunity for white house aides. so this is a claim by the white house that has no basis in law that a court has ever found. i think with respect to all of these issues of executive privilege that you see the white house claiming, we've gotten into this debate whether it exists here, whether it exists there. i think the thing to remember is that exclusive privilege is not a magic wand, it's not a get out of jail free card that the white house is supposed to be able to waive to end investigations.

it comes at the end of the process, when you've negotiated congress's request and haven't reached an agreement this is being used by the white house as a stonewall tactic. >> mimi, corey lewandowski never worked for the white house and they're saying there are privileged communications from the president, so this is an executive privilege, not this absolute immunity. >> right so i mean, it's a very extreme, really nonsensical assertion of executive privilege. it's basically saying anything that trump talk to, as long as he was the president and had some connection to the presidency, you know, we can claim executive privilege. of course executive privilege is a real thing with a real purpose, and they're completely watering it down actually as to lewandowski, i would say it's particularly absurd because if you look at what lewandowski's role was in this whole scheme relating to the obstruction investigation,

trump went outside the chain of command. he went to lewandowski because he was not someone currently serving in the administration, because those people, he tried to get don mcgahn to fire mueller, he was trying to get people who were actually his official advisers to do his dirty work for him and limit sessions and the russia investigation, have sessions unrecuse himself, and they weren't doing it so he went to lewandowski because he was a private citizen and you could keep it sort of on the downlow. that's exactly the time that executive privilege should not apply. he made a choice to go outside the chain of command in doing this, because i think he knew it wasn't proper. and that's a choice he made. and now to invoke executive privilege is just particularly absurd >> so can jerry nadler, once lewandowski sits there and says i won't go beyond what's already in the mueller report, and he's footnoted in it throughout, can jerry nadler find a judge to

say, i hold this guy in contempt, mimi >> he could. that is the remedy for someone if he's really refusing to testify based on an assertion of privilege. they're going to have to litigate it. they're going to have to litigate this assertion. and i think that they will win and the other point about lewandowski, i mean, as i think you noted at the opening here, he is basically on the record as being, you know, a biased witness who is going to take every opportunity to try and protect trump and not necessarily testify to the truth and the facts. he's tweeting, you know, "i'm looking forward," basically, to doing that nadler has to be aggressive with lewandowski. >> if they do try to litigate it, it could take months and months >> it could take months and

months the problem for the democrats is that the white house has taken a maximalist view on everything, and they've delayed three months on the claimed executive privilege for mcgahn >> we'll wait and see, in 30 minutes or so we'll be seeing him on the stand thank you so much, mimi rocah, thank you, matt miller coming up, locked and loaded the pentagon presents president trump with military options but warnings against using them. would congress support such actions? senator tim kaine from the armed services committee will join us next stay tuned

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the president used onsunday on twitter that we are "locked and loaded," the u.s. is "locked and loaded" to take action about this attack against the saudi oil fields the president yesterday specifically said "i don't want war" and he was projecting a much less, you know, military opinion. but what are you getting from the mixed signals here >> well, look, there's real confusion at the white house the "locked and loaded" language, the vice president is just parroting what the president said two years ago i'll make it real clear, andrea, under no circumstances, none, should the united states go to war to protect saudi oil we have worked so hard to develop our own energy economy, during the obama administration we became essentially energy independent for the first time in a long time to put our troops in another war in the middle east, i say this as a father of a marine, to put our troops in another war in the middle east, to protect saudi

oil, would be absolutely ridiculous i'm going to do everything i can as an armed services committee and foreign relations member to stop the u.s. from getting in another middle east war, especially to protect the saudis >> the house intelligence committee is going to be briefed, i assume something will happen on the senate side as well but, you know, they could make a national security argument that this is a critical, you know, juncture for the global supply, it's a national security issue, not dissimilar from the argument we made when kuwait was invaded by iraq. >> and when kuwait was invade y by iraq, president george w. bush brought an authorization to congress the current president would not get support from either house to go to war over saudi oil the president has said in the past that he can do it without congress but that is a clear violation of the constitution. if the president starts a war

against iran to protect the saudis, i will tell you this, we will file a motion immediately to force this to the floor of the senate and force there to be a vote there is a procedure under the war powers resolution that would give us the ability to do that and we would do it within minutes, because we shouldn't be in another war in the middle east but we definitely should not go to war to protect saudi oil. i mean, it would be so unwise and unjust for us to put this on the shoulders of our troops and our families the saudis and iranians are essentially next door neighbors. they have to figure out their own problems they're engaged in a proxy war in the middle east that's crushing people in many countries. we ought to be de-escalating tensions rather than do what the president has done which is raised tensions throughout the region by blowing up the diplomatic deal with iran. >> do you buy the pattern intelligence that -- apparent

intelligence that the drones come from iran >> i believe it's likely that the drones come from iran or from the rebels in yemen which they got from iran the notion that this was unprovoked was absolutely ridiculous through reimposing sanctions on the iranian oil sector we basically disabled them from selling energy do you think they're just going to accept that no, they're not going to accept that the u.s. has been engaged, under this administration, in blowing up diplomacy and militarily provoking iran, and when you do that, you get an escalation, which is what we're seeing the u.s. should de-escalate the

situation and not talk about another war in the middle east >> what would happen if they do this on their own without congressional authorization? you are the father of the fight over the aumf and have failed to get their agreement to authorize military actions in afghanistan and -- >> and syria, that's true. but recently we had a hearing before the foreign relations committee, and the administration witnesses were pretty candid, they acknowledged that neither of the existing authorizations would cover a war against iran so they need congressional approval if the president decides to ignore the constitution and start military action without us, there is a provision under the war powers resolution that gives us the ability to file immediately a resolution to stop military action. and we're guaranteed a vote on that on the floor. if the president foolishly decides that america should go to war to protect saudi oil, we will file that resolution immediately. we will force a vote on the

senate floor in full view of the american public. i come from a state that's very connected to the military. and i'll tell you, my state does not think the veteran-heavy, military-heavy commonwealth of virginia does not believe that another war in the middle east makes any sense whatsoever >> the father of a u.s. marine thank you, thank your family for your service senator tim kaine, thank you very much, sir and today washington has lost a legendary journalist, cokie roberts of abc news and national public radio. cokie was literally raised in the halls of congress where her father was the majority leader, hale boggs she was a mentor, a role model, and a friend to fellow journalists like myself. she was a graduate of wellesley college, a first among equals, juggling many roles with unfailing kindness to those of

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israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu is fighting for his political life as israelis vote today in a do-over election after the prime minister failed to get enough votes to form a parliament in april's election netanyahu is getting a helping hand from president trump who said the two leaders discussed a mutual defense treaty between the u.s. and israel, that would

be unprecedented key factors today, will ara arab-israelis turn out to vote joining me now is nbc's chief global correspondent bill neely in tel aviv. election day in israel is always so confusing and tumultuous, issues of voter access, voter suppression with the minority arabs, what are you hearing? >> reporter: yeah, not to mention the future of the country, andrea. and i don't mean that just in a security sense >> right >> reporter: but the whole battle between the ultraortho box and secular israelis it's all being played out in this election, two hours of voting left. it's looking close indeed with the turnout about the same as last time. if you remember the last time in april, only 15,000 votes separated benny gantz, the main opposition leader, from prime

minister netanyahu so every vote counts and i have to say, benjamin netanyahu has been in full panic mode today he used the word "disaster," saying basically we're losing in the polls, you have to come out and vote for me otherwise it will polls, you have to come out and vote for me, otherwise, it will be a disaster he was at the jerusalem bus station, would you believe, with a bull horn. the man is hoarse. and he is fighting for his political life and another today, facebook said he was breaking his israeli laws because he was breaking what he said were exit polls that said he's losing. he's in a heap of trouble and certainly in a close race. one top adviser told me yesterday, netanyahu, no question, is weakened and wounded but look, as another analyst said, benjamin netanyahu is the cat with nine lives, and he's already used 17 of them so you simply, andrea, cannot

rule him out >> well, especially with all of this -- donald trump is incredibly powerful and popular with israelis, unlike his situation here back at home. and he's done everything including endorsing the annexation of the golan heights when we were there in march with secretary of state mike pompeo and now talking about a mutual defense treaty the u.s. has done everything they can to put their finger on the scale here >> reporter: yeah, donald trump is probably more popular in israel than any country on earth. and benjamin netanyahu is running with not just a trump card, but literally with trump almost as his running mate he's on billboards and election videos and, yes, the gift that donald trump gave him before this election was -- well, netanyahu have said at the beginning, you know, i will annex parts of the

west bank, the jordan valley you know, he sent that in april, but he gave more detail. and then donald trump saying a mutual defense pact if netanyahu wins i mean, what does that mean? we're not even clear whether donald trump's support this time will be enough to give netanyahu -- all he lacked the last time was one seat it was 35-35 in the kin necessaknesset. it's still unclear with two hours to go whether donald trump's sport with this election will be enough for benjamin netanyahu. andrea >> bill neely, i think it's going to be a long night there for you, my friend thank you very much. live pictures from capitol hill, we're awaiting the arrival of former campaign manager corey lewandowski who is going to testify. what will he say we'll have a live report stay with us

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key witness. let's check in with nbc's geoff bennett on capitol hill. geoff, this is unprecedented it's never been exerted successfully for a nonstaff member nor over rick dearborn, the former deputy chief of staff and rob porter, two former staffers who don't have absolute immunity and such a thing doesn't even exist, but they're not even showing up so, what do you expect from the hearing? this is the first impeachment hearing. >> reporter: you're right about that, and as i speak to you, i'm keying my head on a swivel because we expect lewandowski to come in a minute the white house is claiming privilege where none exists and the reason that lewandowski is such a key member for this panel

to testify before this panel who the white house has not fully blocked from testifying publicly this hearing as the house democrats push their inquiry, their investigation, deviced to figure out whether or not to recommend articles of impeachment to the full house. so, they have a lot of questions to corey lewandowski on the specific construction piece, namely those issues in the report where president trump leaned on corey lewandowski to convey a message -- the attorney general wanted him to limit the scope of the russia investigation or have the then a.g. speak about it in unfavorable terms. and lewandowski said he did not convey that message. democrats are not likely to learn anything because the last time he was on the hill, he testified in private, before the house intel committee and i'm told, during that exchange, he used a number of profanities in

trying to brushback some of the democrats on that panel when they were questioning him about their conversations with the president. the other part, too, corey lewandowski as we know is openly considering whether to run for a senate seat in new hampshire expect a number of political actions here on republicans and democrats on the panels and the witness on the hot seat. >> geoff bennett, thank you very much we'll have continuing coverage of the drama on capitol hill that's it for us here. here is ali velshi and stephanie ruhle to pick up the coverage. >> thanks. hello, everybody, it's tuesday, september 17th. we're continuing to follow this breaking news of a historic day in washington. you're looking at live pictures of which the house judiciary committee is meeting the first hearing of the impeachment of president trump will begin on capitol hill >> in the hot seat, president

trump's former campaign manager and confidant to this decorry lewandowski. lewandowski will testify about president's trump alleged efforts to obstruct justice. two other aides were blocked by the white house to testify today. although the testimony will be limited what he does say matters. corey lewandowski to jog your memory was an important figure in the mueller report which investigated the russian meddling into the 2016 election. the report cites instances in 2017 when president trump asked all lewandowski to help occur taillight investigation. those efforts were listed in the report as part of the ten incidents of possible obstruction of justice by president trump. >> today, lewandowski made it clear, his loyalty remains with president trump. tweeting, excited about the opportunity to remind the american people today that