it never will be no matter how much i put on that face and tell everybody i'm fine, i'll never be the same after this. it it . i'm craig. >> and i'm nattily morales. >> and this is "dateline." i really want pop tool not be afraid. i'm here. i'm an actor on "dateline" tell itting you my darkest secrets because i want to help someone and it's okay to talk about it. >> an actress finds real-life drama with when her sister, ann, her husband disappears. leslie's life had seemed perfect. she mentioned going underground? >> yes, she did. >> had something driven there

leave town or something very differ deant happened? but with few clues hollywood detectives would stage a dramatic press conference hoping to flush out a killer. >> i was just floored by what was happening. ♪ hello and welcome to "dateline." aasha davis moved to hollywood with big dreams and her sisterer, leslie fall eoed to support her. then leslie went missing and aasha was desperate to find her. in a town built on can deception, police came up with a high-stakes plan. and the stakes were high. here's josh "a sister's search." >> in the movies and on tv

people can just disappear without a trace leaving family and friends with nothing more than memories, questions, and worry. in real life vanishing is morer a magicians trick than an every-day occurrence. which brings house to cross roads where management and entertainment collide. hollywood. the cops who roll down these streets call it holly weird because they know anything can happen here and sometimes what does happen makes no sense. hollywood's a real place but it's also a myth and the fantasy of what might be. has always drawn the hopeful from every town in america a bus station. quite different reasons it drew these two sisters, leslie and aasha. maybe you recognize aasha davis.

she's one the lucky few for whom the hollywood fantasy came true. in 2007 she caught her big break on "friday night lights. it." she was cast as waverly, the sharp as a tack preacher's daughter. but just as her career was taking off a real-life drama began, one that would test her strength in a way the climb up the hollywood ladderer never had. >> i'm here to plead for help to find my sisterer, leslie. >> she was used to facing the cameras but this wasn'tb for a set or a publicity tour. it was a news conference where she begged for help from anyone who would listen. >> we're heart broken and extremely concerned for her well being. >> any sisterer would be frantic with worry but they were closer than most, despite their gap in age.

she was how much older? >> she was nine years older than me. >> and so she was a surrogate mom when your mom wasn't around? >> yeah, almost like having nuthinger mom because my mom was a single mom and worked double shifts and leslie was in charge of us. she was a mama bear. >> leslie always wanted thing as certain way, her way. she was definitely type a. everyone knew if leslie was in charge, everything was just right. >> even when you were younger, she would take me on dates with with her. >> i'm sure they love that. >> but that's who she was. she made sure we were taken care of. >> she never stopped feeling responsible for aasha. and so a few months after aasha moved west, leslie followed. she found her sl an office job some ous would find boring but in it leslie found material for

stories that kept her sisterer laughing. >> she's so charismatic and a great story teller. she could take a tape dispenseer and create an amaze story. >> right. the move west had been good for both sisters, especially for leslie after she met the right guy in an unlikely place, the 99b sent arer store. >> by the time we were ecwhiching out, he was giving her his number and i think they went to the movies afterwards. they were inseparable after that. >> his name was lisle hairing rr and he had a good job as recruit caner at a local university. his wooing of leslie was spent introducing her to hert new city. a court ship at warp speed. >> she called and said do you want do be a witness at my wedding? i'm like you're getting married? and she's like wrau.

>> married less than a year after they met, they were happy together. they seemed a petty good match? >> yes. >> she thought her oldest daughter had found, for her, the perfect man. >> they even dressed alike. the same jackets, sweaters, caps. >> and they were together all the time. >> all the time. >> it was funny about lisle. after the marriage, he became closer to leslie's family than his own. vivian felt it. >> he always told me he loved me more than his own mother and told me my family was better than his own family. >> you loved him like a son? >> i loved him like a son. >> as for leslie she was the mama bear first to aasha and then to her husband lisle. but it it was her own mother who lived across the country to whom

leslie turned to comfort. and you talked to her almost every day? >> every day. quarter of 11:00 every morning on her way to work. and sometimes in the afternoon. >> how old was she? >> 45. >> and she's still calling her mom every day? >> in the morning so we could pray together. >> the shared daily prayers and they shared confidences. in fact leslie would talk to only her mother during those rare times when she was ticked off at lisle. >> whenever she was unhappy, i would say to her, well, what do you expect? you met him in the 99 cent store. >> soon enough aasha was married and in 2008 she and her husband jesse found out she was pregnantb with a boy. >> leslie was so pited to have a nephew and she was so supportive. she threw my baby shower.

she was go to get to see her little sister become a mom. >> the little boy joined the family in january 2009. and though aunt leslie was sick with a cold, she couldn't resist coming back to look in the window at her brand new nephew. those should have been happy times a time of the family bonding with its newest member. but then aasha got a phone call from leslie's boss that changed everything. >> said leslie didn't show up for work yesterday and she's not here today, instantly felt wrong. >> the joy of new motherhood melted away. tuesday, february 10th. leslie missed two days of work and she hadn't called in sick. it was completely out of character for the always responsible leslie. >> i instantly called the two people who would know where she's at and that's lisle

herring and my mom who she talks to twice a day. >> it her mom hadn't heard from leslie and now they realized lisled cannant be found either. but no one disappears without a trace, to it they? remember this is hollywood where pretty much anything can happen and like a special effect, lisle would briefly reappear. coming up. >> he got into the backseat. slides down in the seat and pulls my suit coat over his head. >> he's hideling. >> when "dateline" continues. s g >> when "dateline" continues knees, and lower back. that's why she wears dr. scholl's orthotics. they relieve pain and give her the comfort to move more so she can keep up with all of her best friends. dr. scholl's. born to move. i mean, if you haven't thought abfrankly, you're missing out. uh... the mobile app makes it easy to manage your policy, even way out here. your marshmallow's...

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when someone you love disappears, it's hard to know what to do. there are no drills like for fires or earthquakes. no how- to books. aasha davis had a million questions and almost no answers. >> we were wondering if we needed to file a missing persons for both of them. we were nurbs what we would find in the apartment? what if they got robbed? >> they were always together during their marriage and now they're both suddenly gone. tid you think wherever they were they were together? >> yes. >> they grabbed their new born

son and headed to the hollywood hills to see what if anything they could find there. >> leslie's car is there in the assigned parking spot. all the sudden you're like she's here and not answering the phone. >> they went to the building to knock on lisle and leslie's front door. she wondered if she might be sick inside but their knocking got no response. they waitd and they waited. they returned to the garage where they saw a man parking in the spot next to leslie's >> we said hey, have you seen the woman who owns this arand says i haven't seen her but i saw her husband yesterday. >> that was strange so they waited in their car by the front gate because if that neighbor was right, maybe they'd find lisle when he came home from work. >> i remember a few cars coming in and all the sudden a car that

matched his description came in. >> but then the car turned away from lisle and leslie's building. >> and we said i guess it's not him. >> aasha and jesse probably would have waited all night but they had a new baby with them so they headed home. not first time she would have to balance being a sisterer andbying a parent. while all this is going on you have a brand new baby. i'm thinking this may be just about impossible. >> i did not sleep at all. it was such an amalgamation of sadness and excitement. it's what kept us going is him.

>> and they called the l.a.p.d. aasha and jesse couldant get can into the condo but they could. officers went inside and found nothing unusual and no lisle and no leslie. aasha worked the phones. friends and relatives knew nothing and she talked to lisle's boss who said he thought he'd seen lisle tuesday. aasha decided it was time to nile missing person's report. >> we went to the police station and gave them a picture of leslie and the guy said thank you and put her picture can on a pile and it i mean in california i'm sure i don't know howmany people go missing, especially hollywood, in a day.

>> a lot of people come here from somewhere else but their dreams don't always make out. they can lose touch with their families and suddenly the folks back home are calling the ops thinking they're missing when they're just lost in the meat grinder that is hollywood. aasha desperately needed something that would make leslie's case stand out. >> we went back to the arand thought i dont know where to go from here and the phone rang. and it was malcolm thomas. >> malcolm thomas is lisle herring can cousin. he wanted to talk about a distraught lisle who he had also seen in the days after leslie missed work and said he almost seemed suicidal. >> he said don't bring up her name anymore. he doesn't want to hear about her anymore. >> dud you think it was because she dump deed him or they were

having a fight? >> i thought maybe there was a disagreement. people have disagreements. people split up for short period oz of time and get back together. and i said maybe she's just upset about something. >> lisle thread way in his suv. you're following lisle to his house. but he doesn't go straight to it his house, does he? >> no. as soon as we pulled in the driveway, he made a sharp left turn and that was different. >> away from his home. >> they ended up in a remote garage underneath apartment complex. >> he opens up my back passenger side door. he got in the backseat, lows the door, slides down in the seat of the car and pulls my suit coat over his head. >> he's hide sng.

>> he's hiding. i said don't to that in my car. what's going on? and he said there are people at the end thodriveway he doesn't want to see or have them see us. >> and aasha suddenly realized. that's you. >> it was us. and so we ran back the to the police station to and went back in and said we just talked to my sister's husband's cousin and he had a really frantic interaction with him. the policeman said wait a second. i'm go doing ing to gt you guy db. detective. missing persons cases aren't usually your department but this

was different? >> this was different. >> a strange clue buried in a closet and inside their marriage something buried there too. >> she foundout about that. >> yes. she was furious. she was furious. yeah, yeah! when accidents happen, resolve them. resolve urine destroyer removes urine stains and neutralizes odors on contact. resolve. stains are temporary. love is forever. nyquil severe gives you powerful relief for your worst cold and flu symptoms, on sunday night and every night. nyquil severe. the nightime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy head, best sleep with a cold, medicine.

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front desk walked aasha, her husband and her baby back to the detectives. >> we explained everything about leslie and how worried we were. we didn't know what was going on. >> lisle and leslie were both missing and unreachable. maybe they were together, maybe they were say and maybe they weren't. >> my instincts is there is something suspicious going on. they could have both taken off. i don't know these people. they lived a pretty isolated lifestyle but from the things i found so far it seemed suspicious. >> he ecwhichecked hospitals, t coroner's office and highway patrol. asking police throughout sugt p southern california to look for

leslie and lisle. and he brought cousin in. most are telling you the relationship is terrific. malcolm is it the only one that sends up a red flag. >> based on the conversation in the days after she was missing, yes. >> whatever happened was beginning toing feel like foul play. and so at 3:00 a.m., some 11 hours after first meeting aasha, they were in the condo, search warrant in hand. >> the paurmt was real telling to me about the two people that lived there. we didn't know much about them but it was almost like an apartment divided. part thof apartment that was leslie's, for example was very orderly, put together. and then there was a room that

was lisle's and it was like a tornado had been through it. >> but still no sign of a struggle? >> no. >> no blood? >> no visible blood. the only thing that caught my attention is a large amount of towels over the showers of both bathrooms and i made note i thought there was a flood or something they sauped up. >> inside the apartment they saw spilled candle wax. if the ocd intenseb leslie had seen that, she would have cleaned it up right away. so did it happen after she left? and they found something else? a receipt from starbucks dated february 9th at 9:17 p.m. flp that was the it first day leslie missed work. >> that receipt was in a purse in leslie's purse inside of her closet. >> so presumably leslie who went toob starbaucks?

>> exactly. >> night turned to day in hollywood. and it dawned on the detectives this may not have been a home oa happy couple. a visit with it it leslie's mother vivian. >> that weekend they were feuding. lisle had food and put a certain spice in the food. she asked what spice and he couldn't tell her. >> vivian knew that certain spices triggered leslie's debilitating migraines and leslie knew that this fight over spices was just the symptom oso much that was going on between mr. and mrs. lisle herring. things have not been good between your daughter and lisle? >> no, they had financial problems. >> to see these were financial

problems is to understate what had been happenbing. leslie told her that lisle needed cash badly, so badly that he had committed identity theft against his own wife. >> he forged her signature and took money from her credit cards. >> and she found out? >> she was furious. >> it turned out that for months leslie had been telling her mother she was nearing the end of her rope. vivian cautioned leslie not to tell lisle she was think ogleaving. >> i said if you want to leeb, you cannot let him know what your plans are. just leave. >> so don't tell him in advance? >> no. >> don't leave a note? >> no. >> was this mother just trying to hold on to anything that might mean her missing tautergh daughter was alive or did she know more than what she was

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hey, i'm with the hour's top stories. house intelligence committee chairman adam schiff expects the whistle blower to testify soon. new york city police are trying to determ itten who fired the shots during a struggle with an armed suspect. he was killed at the scene. now backing to "dateline." to "d" welcome back to "dateline." leslie and lisle herring had both vanished and a search of the couple's apartment left investigators with more questions than answers. there were no signs oa struggle

but detectives did find suspicious items including a starbucks receipt in leslie's purse which would give them telling clues. once again a sister's search. >> no one seemed to know where leslie herring was. her husband, lisle had been seen but wasn't return itting anyone'salls. not even those from the lapt it. had leslie simply hefleft her husband without a word to anyone? it seemed unlikely but then aasha was still in the process olearning about leslie's marriage, how bad it really was, things leslie was apparently telling only her mother. >> i think she really wanted people to thing she had it together so she wouldn't tell us

about the problems she had with lisle. sglrs she always had taken care of you and on tv doing great and maybe she thought i'm not going to break her consen fragz a moment? >> definitely. out of protection, a little bit of of pride. >> so perhaps leslie was still alive somewhere and just keeping her head down. it's what vivian was hoping. >> i believed that leslie would go home. i went to sleep every night and imagine i could hear the door bell ring. i could imagine there were knocks at the door. i would imagine the phone would ring. >> she believed it because vivian knew something aasha didn't know, something she didn't tell the detectives right away that she had spoken earlier about some people who could help her just vanish. an underground. she mentioned going underground?

>> yes, she did. it d >> did she seem serious? >> yes, she wanted to leave. >> as much as he knew her family wanted to believe that, it didn't make sense? >> she would have had something. her migraine medication, money. she took nothing with her. nothing. >> and one week after she was a no-show at work, their investigation changed course. remember that starbucks receipt they found in leslie's handbag? they got their first look at the security video from starbucks showing the cash register at the exact time the purpose was made. i'm guessing you watched that video several times. it's pretty clear video and pretty clear that it isn't leslie. >> and low and behold it's lisle herring.

by himself, no wife, with his long, dread lock hair and he purchases a single item. >> didn'tb b buy another cup. >> i think as the investigation went forward i knew we were expected to find it there. >> three more days passed an instant in hollywood. an eternity for aasha and her family. lisle hairierring had been stop that the mexican border not fleeing but returning to the united states. they stopped everything and headed south. >> our spiedy senses were up thinking something could be awry. we didn't know so we needed to get it down there and talk to him. and we needed to find out if

tl leslie was with him and if not where was she and what did he know? >> he confirmed what his mother in law told ops that he and leslie had been fighting that weekend, a lot. but this time he said was different. leslie had apparently had about einof him and lisle said when he woke up that sunday morning leslie was gone. >> just left to the store and never came back or how did that happen? >> she just left. >> detectives were surprised to hear all this from closely cropped lisle herring. a man known for years for his long dreadlocks. he explained that he owed money to gang members and when he couldn't pay them back, they held him down and cut off his hair. >> they cut my hair, my mustache.

you used to work the gang unit. have you ever heard of a gang holding someone down and giving them a hair utcan as a way to get money they wanted? >> not only have i not heard of that but the shave was a little added touch that i have never heard. hard toepe a straight face when i heard that. >> lisle said before she dumped them, they planned a valentine's vacation in mexico and that he'd gone there to look for her a week after she had disappeared. >> but lisle had come up empty. >> do you have any idea where your wife is? >> i do not. >> then he issed if during his search he tried to phone or email his wife. listen to his answer.

>> i called her i believe -- i can't verify in my mind because i'm so tired. mind because i'm so tired >> he volunteered to check my cell phone records. did you think he wants to see the cell phone recordser same as he wants me to see the starbucks receipt? >> yes. >> suspicious? yes but prooof a crime, no? he was able to seize his suv. he then brought in indiana bones from the l.a. county ocorerncor office. german shepherd trained to sniff out human it decomposition. and in both vehicles she stopped in her tracks and alerted.

the dog told you at one time a dead body had been in the back olisle's car. that's when you know leslie's dead? >> that's when i know she's ted. >> he did not share that with leslie's family because there was still so much he didn't have. a crime scene a witness or the one thing most investigations begin with a body. had you ever done a murder case in which you didn't have a dead body? >> no, this is the first one. >> wyou had never ton that before? >> no, i never had. >> he it decided he needed a little help from the media. he held a press conference but this would be unlike any you've ever seen. it would be pure theater worthy of hollywood. everyone would be there. detective, family, even the

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♪ leslie herring was still missing. she hadn't turned up dead or oalive. now detectives turned to

leslie's family with a request and it wasn'tb an easy one. >> you and your mom, leslie all give police dna sample. they're probably not looking for a live person anymore. that was -- >> hard to do? >> wrau. yeah. you're talking about finding bodies and where is she? what kind of ending did she have? >> those were questions detective gable had, questions he wasn't close to answering. so 44 days after leslie went missing, the l.a.p.d. held what started as a press conference and ended as something quite different. >> i thank you all for being here this morning. >> he hoped getting the story in the news might help jog someone's memory in a way that would roll the investigation forward.

aasha and her entire family were there and so was lisle. did you think he was going to speak? >> he didn't want to speak. >> i'd like the introduce lisle herring, the husband o-leslie at this time. >> our captain went ahead and said the next person to speak was lisle herring. and he had no hois at that point. >> am home. >> very unusual for her not to be in touch with her family. she is a creature of habit and this is why her disappearance is so alarming to us. >> for aasha, the actress, this day played out more strangely than any script she followed. >> it was really difficult because it was the first time i was going to see lisle. to me approach everything with love. i didn't think shaking him was

going to get an answer. i hugged him like i always do when i see him. >> she did not run away. >> unlike his sister, he did not approach lisle with love. >> i would like you, lisle, to tell me what's going on here because we came a long way to know what's going on. this is kill canniing our famil. >> stood it all, eeth arhusband worried about his wife or a killer worried about being caught. when detective gable was questioned, he ewas asked if lisle was being helpful? >> i would describe his cooperation as fragmented and less than helpful. >> at one point they asked detective gable is lisle cooperating with lisle right there he says not really.

>> i was just floored by what was happening. >> and fwagable wasn't done lay out the inconsistencies to an audience of eager listeners that included lisle. >> he left the following tuesday and went odown to san diego to apply to jobs for colleges down there. following that he went town to mexico for a day. >> then reporters turned on lisle. >> he says less than cooperative. those are rather charged statements. he told him he didn't want to answer and lisle took it. >> let me clarify one thing. we will be taking things out of context. i had an opportunity to take a trip -- we've had an opportunity to take a trip to mexico, rose rita to celebrate for valentine's day.

i went done there to look for her, all the places i thought she would be because that's one of the places we had planned to go. so for detective gable to throw it out there, he went to mexico. yes too, look for my wife. >> but gable had never believed lisle went to mexico to look for leslie. >> it's obvious he was lying. and i could see he was lying. >> what gable really needed was a break. i get the feeling what you were hoping for was not somebody who had seen leslie alive but maybe who had seen lisle in the process of moving her or disposing her body? >> yes. >> somebody maybe you hadn't talked to before? >> correct. >> withand it paid off. >> immediately. >> coming up. what a new witness lamclaims he

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we're going to gather, get quiet and think about her. all about her. >> in the weeks after the surreal press conference, sonte to get a word out about her

sister. lisle herring continues to play the part of the grieving husband. inside hollywood station detectives were continuing to put the case together against lisle. one with no dna, no blood and still no body. but there was evidence that came in tiny little pieces. they'd found an undated dear john-type letter that leslie had writn to lisle saying she was leaving him. that she was broken and they finally got those cell phone records that lisle was so eager for them to see. >> here we have february 7th. and this is their condominium right here. >> it turns out lisle did call leslie after the time he said she'd run off. but the records have more details than lisle expected. >> there was activity between both phones but the problem was where the phones were located.

based off the cell it towers we were able to show the phones were in the same location. >> suggesting that lisle was what? holding his phone in one hand and dialing leslie's phone in his other hand? >> exactly. >> and a neighbor from the condo complex had seen lisle herring getting into the elevator around 12:30 a.m. sunday on the weekend that leslie disappeared. lisle was moving what looked like a big, rolled up carpet. >> how like the diameter? >> it was big. round enoughf for a body to be inside it. >> you think that was leslie inside that carpet? >> tabsolutely. >> in 20b 10 he was finally arrested and charged.

it would take three more years to get to trial. >> over the next few weeks we're go doing present you the layerred wep that caught him, put him in this court room and proves beyond a reasonable doubt that that man, that calculating husband, that killer the defendant, lisle herring. >> what do you think hap snnd. >> i learned one of the things that lisle does when they're having arguments is he washes leslie's hair as a way of getting in the good graces. >> they believe the herring's bath tub was the real crime skeeb. >> i believe they were talking about the letter he had already received and she was likely adamant he was leaving and he was go having to no part of that and i think he just pushed her under.

>> and drowned her right there? >> yes. >> remember all the towels he saw? he believed lisle used them to mop up the bathroom and then wrapped up leslie, put her on the dolly and had the bad tluk r luck to run into a neighbor. the it was says lisle was not guilty because leslie wasn't murdered. she's not even dead can. >> i don't want you to hold me to any promise that there's going to be a perry mason moment and leslie's going to walk through the door and say here i am but i would tell you at the conclusion othis trial there will be more than sufficient evidence to believe that she in fact could. >> i wish they were right. let me say that. i would love to be hugging my sister and i wish that were true and i know who she is and i know she's not alive. >> after a three and a half week

trial a jury agreed with aasha. >> we find lisle herring guilty of the rhyme of murder. >> lisle was sentenced to 15 years to life for murder in the second degree. not wiet the end because lisle is holding on to one last secret from a marriage that apparently had a lot of of them. he's never told anyone where leslie's body is. he's probably going to see this program >> i know. >> anything you want tasay to him? >> yes. we pray that you will tell us where leslie is so we have closure in our life. we know that you know exactly where she is. >> through her pain and loss, aasha is trying to find a lesson. sglirl >> it's so important to me that women or fearful about what

people are going to think about the way they're living their lives. it's so much more important that you share even your sadness with people. >> you wish leslie had talked to you? >> i really do wish she had. i do. i don't think i'd be here right now. >> but aasha also had an opportunity to bring laughter back into this family. she starred in a web series called "the unwritten rules." a comty about a black woman working one othose deafly dull jobs in a mostly white office. a little bit like leslie's life. >> and i read those scripts and i just felt leslie. i felt her in my heart. i laughed again the way she used to make me laugh. >> real. >> and so one sister paid homage to another.

it won't bring leslie back but it makes her loss a little less painful. in this hollywood story it's the only happy ending available. after a weekend tweet storm, president trump is demanding to know the identity of the whistleblower whose complaints park issed an impeachment inquiry. >> allies of the president work to defend trump in multiple interviews over the weekend. >> saudi arabia's crown prince mohammed bin salman is denying he ordered the murder of jamal khashoggi. good morning, everyone, it is monday, september 3rd, i'm ayman mohyeldin along side