"washington post" columnist jamal khashoggi. ♪ good morning, everyone, it is monday, september 30th, i'm ayman mohyeldin along side yasmin ayman mohyeldin alongsi yasmin vossoughian. in the wake of the growing ukraine scandal president trump is demanding to meet the whistle and wants to have adam schiff questioned for treason. in a series of tweets last night, he posted this. like every american, i deserve to meet my accuser. especially when this accuser, the so-called whistleblower, represented a perfect conversation with a foreign leader in a totally inaccurate and fraudulent way and shif's comments were in the most sinister manner ever seen in the great chamber. he wrote down and read terrible things and then said it was from the mouth of the president of the united states. i was this the highest level of fraud and treason.

in addition i want to meet not only my accuser who presented second and third hand information but also the person who illegally gave this information which was largely incorrect to the whistle blower, was this person spying on the u.s. president? big consequences. >> meanwhile, an attorney representing the whistleblower says he has quote serious concerns that trump's comments are putting his client in danger. in a letter to acting director of national intelligence, joe maguire, the whistleblower's legal team says trump's remarks about identifying the whistleblower have quote heightened our concerns that our client's identity will be disclosed publicly and that as a result, our client will be put in harm's way. house intelligence committee chair adam schiff said this on abc this week, that his panel has reached an agreement over the whistleblower to testify before congress. however, an attorney for the whistleblower tweeted last night that no agreement had yet been reached with congress. and that discussions remain ongoing. >> a majority of americans say they approve of congressional

democrats push to impeach president trump and 55% say they back house democrats impeachment inquiry of trump according to a new cbs news poll. and 45% say they do not approve of the probe. when asked about the legality of trump's actions on ukraine, 28% said they were proper, 31% said they were not proper, but legal, and 41% said his actions were illegal. meanwhile, 63% of americans said they found president trump's encouragement of a foreign leader to investigate his domestic political rival a serious problem. that is according to the latest abc news ipsos poll. and 17% said they were surprised that trump asked the ukrainian president to investigate joe biden. >> ha do you make of this exchange? president zelensky says we are almost ready to buy more javelins from the united states for defense purposes.

and president trump replies, i would like you to do us a favor, though. >> you just added another word. >> nope. >> i want you to do us a favor, though. >> it is in the transcript. >> when i read the transcript, president zelensky brings up a javelin is a protect for anti-tank, something that president obama would not sell. that president trump did to protect ukraine. >> how do you expect the president's defense to roll out going forward? >> the defense of what? >> well, there's an impeachment inquiry. >> there is an impeachment inquiry going forward that probably would never move forward had the speaker waited 48 hours to have the transcript. >> i'll ask you again, how does the defense of the president in your view roll out from here? >> why would we move forward with impeachment? there's not something that you

have to defend here. >> you say the president has done nothing wrong. i take that to mean that you find it appropriate that the president asked mr. zelensky for an investigation of his democratic rivals. >> the question before the house of representatives is to impeach the president based on a phone call that the speaker never even heard. >> with great respect to you, and i apologize for interrupting, but these are the white house talking points that were emailed to the congress earlier this week. and i am asking you -- >> i'll be very clear -- >> was it appropriate for the president to ask for investigations of his democratic rivals with another foreign leader? >> i've never seen one talking point from a white house. i'm talking to you based upon the most important facts we have. the whistleblower wasn't on the call. the i.g., inspector general, didn't read the call, but you and i have all of the information we need. the president did nothing in this phone call that is

impeachable. >> "60 minutes" pointed out, the complaint says the white house tried to rock down all records of the phone call underscoring that the top aides of the president understood the gravity of what had transpired in that call. >> former homeland security security adviser whose role in the trump white house including election security and the united states's response to russia's involvement in the 2016 election is also sounding off scolding his former boss. >> the whistleblower's complaints says white house officials were deeply disturbed by the president's phone call with zelensky. >> what was your reaction? >> yeah, i'm deeply disturbed by it as well and this entire mess has me frustrated. it is a bad day and a bad week for this president, and for this country, if he is asking for political dirt on an opponent. i honestly believe this president has not gotten him time to flesh yet from past greefrpss on the 2016 investigation. if he continues to focus on that white whale, it's going to bring him down enough. the investigation is over.

>> he also asserted that president trump has been repeatedly warned about the bee dunked conspiracy theory that he pedalled to ukraine's president on that july phone call. >> and at this point, i am deeply frustrated with what he and the legal team is doing and repeated that debunked theory to the president. it sticks in his mind when he hears it over and over again, and for clarity here, george, let me just again repeat that it has no validity. the united states government reached its conclusion on attributing to russia the dnc hack in 2016 before it even communicated it to the fbi, long before the fbi ever knocked on the door at the dnc. >> joining us now from washington, political reporter for the hill, julia manchester. julia, good morning to you. thanks so much for joining us. >> good morning. >> overnight, we saw lots from the president tweeting, to say the least, his grievances about the whistleblower, and the investigation of course. how could these comments, how

could the president's actions, his twitter feed, all of that, be used against him, as this situation progresses? >> absolutely, you're going to see democrats on various house committees, especially probably the house intelligence committee, trying to use these tweets against him, and try to essentially say, you know, ask the question, why the president is defending himself, so much, and how the president's talking points maybe on twitter are possibly slightly different than other talking points from his allies defending him. i think going back to that clip of tom bossert we just showed, that shows how many, more of president trump's former ally, more proemoderate republicans, sentiment, you're seeing it emerge among them, you're seeing the allies of the president, or former allies of the president, very much criticize him and i don't think that bodes well for president trump going forward. i mean just looking at the republicans' response earlier

this week, to the whistleblower report, to the transcript that was released, it is not the same response you've seen before. it's much more muted. much more pulled back. you're seeing a lot of senators we've reached out to or congressman refer questions back to their office. so i think it is just very telling. >> and what do you make of how top republicans that have been struggling to defend president trump's side against the whistleblower complaint really kind of come out with the argument that they've been making, whether or not that is going to have any traction? >> you know, i think it depends. president trump, looking at him and the past scandals or controversies, it seems like he has political teflon and you're seeing republicans struggling with this situation, because it appears that this is really the straug that breaks the, the straw that breaks the camel's back and i think lawmaker, top republicans, are trying to figure out how to deal with this with an election moving forward, we're seeing several polls that

are now showing that the american people are possibly more in favor of impeaching trump than they were before. so i think that's very telling. so you're going to see republican leaders try to give cover to their own members who are facing re-election, in 2020, while at the same time trying to defend the president. i think they're very difficult situations. >> i can't help but ask is this actually the straw that breaks the camel's back, especially when you hear from people like kevin mccarthy and lindsey graham who seem like they're doubling down on the support for the president despite the fact that before the 2016 election they didn't necessarily support the president at that moment and you would think that this would be the moment, here is our out, here is our moment to step away from the president, and actually call what we see in this transcript from the white house, but they're not doing it. >> no, they're not. and i think their defense that we've heard from them is kind of the same, more of same of what we've seen before in them defending the president's past remarks, or past controversies, et cetera. so i think they're playing by the play book right now and

trying to remain safe. and i think they're very much beholden to their base right now which is still very much in favor of president trump. i think if they keep on with these talking points, that there is some sort of conspiracy within the government, to, you know, go after president trump, or some sort of bias against him in the media, they're going to continue to very much push those talking points. >> julia manchester, thank you. we will talk to you again in a little bit. >> thank you. the state department special envoy for ukraine curt volker abruptly resigned his post on friday. following reports that he collaborated with ukraine and president trump to find damaging information about former vice president joe biden and other democrats. "the new york times" reports that according to a person informed about his decision, volker told secretary of state mike pompeo on friday that he was stepping down. offered no public explanation. and said that it was quote impossible to be effective in his assignment given the developments of recent days. volker's resignation which was first reported by the student

newspaper and arizona state university is the first casualty of congress's impeachment inquiry into trump's efforts to pressure the president of ukraine to investigate biden and other democrats. house leaders announced on friday that they plan to interview volker in a deposition on thursday. one person with knowledge of the matter telling nbc news that volker stepping down from the position will enable him to be much freer in what he can say, if he is called to testify before congress. still ahead, do the president's tweets targeting the whistleblower amount to witness tampering. legal analyst danny cevallos is here to weigh in on that. >> and rudy giuliani's new defense of the president, he said trump would have violated his oath of office if he didn't ask ukraine to investigate joe biden and his son. those stories and a check of the weather when we come back.

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you're saying this is hearsay. the complaint, on a number of

fronts, is matched by the call record. >> the transcript claims are not matched. wait a minute. please let me talk. please, please. >> i'm laying out the facts here. >> no, you're not. you're making an argument. >> a reference to joe biden, all of those things -- >> joe biden -- >> wait a minute, you've got an opinion. i've got an opinion. you got me on the show to tell me what i think. i think mule der a good job for the country and there is nothing there. i believe this whole thing is a sham. i can't believe we're talking about impeaching the president, based on an accusation, based on hearsay. >> the chair of the senate judiciary committee lindsey graham defense of the president yesterday. joining us to talk about this is legal analyst danny cevallos. >> i want to start here, would the phone call and the whistleblower complaint be admissible in court. >> i'm hearing a lot of the word hearsay in the last few days and i want to clear something up, hearsay is a rule of evidence sometimes that applies sometimes

in court, but the reality is, the hearsay rule is so riddled with exceptions, that the exceptions swallow the rule. most of what you may think is hearsay is usually admissible. and then we're only really talking about certain court cases. everyone knows that in criminal investigations, long before you even get into court and sometimes when you are in court, hearsay is perfectly admissible. even if it is hearsay. criminal investigations often begin with hearsay. i heard that somebody told somebody something. police and fbi and other law enforcement, they rely on hearsay all the time. ultimately when it gets to trial, sometimes it is not admissible, but as i've said, there are so many exceptions, they often swallow the rule. one of the major exceptions and actually it is considered nonhearsay is an admission by a party opponent and there are literally dozens of others after that. so there is, just because something sounds like it might be hearsay tells us about whether or not it might be admissible, especially in an

impeachment hearing. >> the interesting thing about that, is fine, that can apply, the hearsay debate can apply about the whistleblower complaint, but what you have is a statement or a summary of a phone call put out by the white house, meaning the white house has read this, they acknowledge here at least is a summary of that we're acknowledging. does the fact that the white house put that statement out qualify as an acknowledgment of at least, as they see it, truth or facts? because the question should really hone in on just the record of that summary and whether or not some of those statements in that summary are actually a violation or a quid pro quo or all of the other allegations that have been made. >> that's right. let's say this is not a transcript but instead a series of statements but the president has essentially adopted those statements and that's one example of when hearsay, there's an exception to the hearsay rule, and it would come in, as evidence. but we're losing sight of the fact that that is only at a criminal trial. there are so many court proceedings, criminal or civil trial. there are so many court

proceedings that don't care about hearsay. there's so many other situations that hearsay simply doesn't matter and impeachment in the past has been based on hearsay. there are no federal rules of evidence at an impeachment hearing. a justice roberts may preside and decide whether or not things come in and don't come in but not governed by the rules of evidence and even if he were, he knows probably better than most judges that the hearsay rule is again riddled with exceptions, and then some things are not even classified as hearsay. so hearsay is a very strict rule that often, if you watch tv, you realize most of the time the evidence comes in anyway, under some exceptions. >> very quickly, before we let you go, the president tweeted out about wanting to meet the whistleblower. is that witness tampering going after the whistleblower and some of the words he has been using, calling him an accuser and alleging he could be a sky. >> and big consequences. >> and steven miller going so far as to allege that as well. >> maybe not witness

intimidation but it violates the spirit of the whistleblower act, which is if you see something going wrong in government, you should be encouraged to report. it you shouldn't suffer adverse employment consequences and obviously when the most powerful person in the government is tweeting about you and insulting you that really seems to violate the spirit of whistleblower statute. >> and big consequences. >> when it comes to witness intimidation, that would apply if we were talking about a trial specifically, a criminal trial, but the president is right in a sense that constitutionally, everyone does have a right to confront they're cuser. at trial. not just generally in life. that's not the way it works. and not necessarily within the whistleblower statute. >> danny cevallos, always a pleasure, my friend. good to see you. >> appreciate it. let's switch gears and bring in our meteorologist ja nessa webb with a look at the weather. a storm in the pacific

northwest. and massive amounts of snow. blizzard warnings are in effect for the northern area of montana. we saw over 40 inches of snow in browning, montana. that has included a state of emergency this morning. that's probably not going to be lifted until this afternoon. you can just see the heavy snowfall, came down very quickly. we saw snowfall rates of two to three inches per hour. so sitting in a winter wonderland, the big issue here though this morning, i want to show you the temperatures. the problem is, when you have all of that snow, you're trying to drive on that, the cooldown happened fairly quickly, so the air temperature right now, across northern montana, sitting in the mid-20s. but the feel-like temperature already in the teens. so that's really going to be a problem. also i want to show you though, they are still troopers out there, and no airport delays for the pacific northwest, and in to washington, but then we have this record heat. i will get into that later on.

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of error. in south carolina, another early voting side, biden has a 21 point advantage over his democratic rivals at 37%. and a two-way battle for second place, with 16% for warren and sanders at 11%. nearly one year after the murder of "washington post" columnist jamal khashoggi inside the saudi consulate in turkey, the saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman denies any role in the assassination. >> did you order the murder of jamal khashoggi? >> absolutely not. this was a heinous crime. but i take full responsibility as a leader in saudi arabia. especially since it was committed by individuals working for the saudi government. today, the investigations are being carried out. and once charges are proven against someone, regardless of their rank, it will be taken to court. no exception made. if there is any such information

that charges me, i hope it is brought forward publicly. >> saudi prosecutors have charged 11 men in the crime while members of the crown prince's inner circle have been implicated. the cia has previously concluded that mbs ordered khashoggi's killing. >> despite the fact that the cia has confirmed this, we can't expect a fair investigation inside the kingdom, especially one that would feasibly implicate the leader, mbs. >> there is still a lot of questions, involved in this, because these were very inner circle members of the crown prince's entourage, so to speak. >> one being his right-hand man. >> and a lot of questions as to whether or not the government knew about some of these things, like taking a private jet from saudi arabia, going to turkey, and hard to imagine that something at that scale, that magnitude could happen without the highest levels of government. the more interesting thing is, whether or not there will be transparency in the trial, whether or not we will be

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welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside ayman mohyeldin. it is the bottom of the hour.

let's start with the morning's top hours. house democrats are barrelling ahead with a narrowly focused strategy to push forward their impeachment inquiry into president trump's alleged abuse of power. "new york times" reports that on a conference call, over the weekend, speaker nancy pelosi made an appeal to democrats, to maintain a simple and somber message, as she declared quote, we are ready to push forward, with a politically divisive process. also while taking note of recent polls which show americans growing interest in impeachment, pelosi added this, our tone must be prayerful, respectful, solemn, worthy of the constitution. as speaker pelosi focused on democrats united front on messaging, the house intelligence committee chair adam schiff buckled down on the scope of the investigation. >> i don't want to lose sitis of that fundamental breach of the president's oath of office, the duty to defend our country, our constitution, and here, the president is once again, not just inviting but coercing a

foreign nation to get involved, to try to help him, in yet another presidential election. so to me, that's the most serious set of offenses. >> the president can't have it both ways. he can't both prevent us from getting evidence on the serious underlying crimes, or potential crimes, the serious breach of his oath of office and at the same time obstruct our investigation. so even as he tries to weaken our ability to get facts on one, he is going to strengthen the facts on the other. >> and top white house aides are planning to present president trump with a wide-ranging strategy to respond to the impeachment inquiry, in fact two sources tell nbc news that the rapid response effort could come as soon as today. a key part of it is already playing out. we've already seen the president's allies accusing democrats of being solely focused on impeachment instead of domestic policy issues like gun violence, and health care. we're told the white house plans to rely heavily on allies in congress and the trump campaign. some of the president's advisers have also mused about bringing

back former white house strategist steve bannon, and 2016 campaign manager corey lewandowski. there is a sense that the president's re-election campaign is better prepared to blast out political messaging, with aides pointing out that the campaign's messaging oftentimes forshadows white house talking points. in fact, here is senior white house policy adviser stephen miller on fox news just sunday. >> both the director of national intelligence, and inspector general, said they also found his comments to be credible, and a matter of urgent concern, and they turned it over to the justice department. despite all that, they thought this was a credible complaint. >> they're wrong, chris. >> on what basis. >> chris, i've worked in the government now, the federal government for nearly three years. i know what the deep state looks like. i know the difference between a whistleblower and a deep state operative. this is a deep state operative, pure and simple. >> the president has the state

department, he's got the cia, he's got the pentagon, he's got a number of other agencies, were did he use three private lawyers to get information on biden from the ukrainian government rather than go through all of the agencies of his government? >> two different points. number one -- >> how about answering my questions. >> john durham as you know. >> wait a minute. >> don durham is investigating something very different. stephen i'm asking you a different question. why did the president use private attorneys rather than go to the state department. if you don't know, that's an acceptable answer but let's not talk about john durham who is investigating the trump -- >> two issues. >> chris, i understand. i understand that you have your question. i have my answer. there's two issues that were brought up on the phone call. >> you have your nonanswer at this point. >> you're asking a question. -- >> interfering in our election -- >> asking as to why the president didn't use his government. you apparently are not going to answer that. i will ask you another question.

why did the president decide to withhold $391 million in military aid to ukraine last july -- >> the president has -- >> that had been approved by congress. why did the president, if the argument is corruption, why did the president go against his own pentagon, and his own state department? >> chris, i don't understand how you can ask that question while at the same time admonishing the president for wanting to get to the bottom of perhaps one of the biggest corruption scandals considering ukraine in the last few years. >> i'm not admonishing anybody, i'm simply asking why -- >> chris, chris, i like you a lot, but with all due respect -- >> it is an exercise in on fuss case. >> why y-did the president go against his own pentagon and state department. >> there is a tone of judgment in all of your questions so yes, you are admonishing. >> that's judgment on your part, sir. >> the president is the whistleblower here. the president of the united states is the whistleblower. and this individual is a saboteur trying to undermine a

democratically elected government. >> is he a spy? is he committing treason. >> i do not know -- >> the president said that, you know. >> the president correctly pointed out that the behavior of had individual is close to a spy. >> okay. so president trump's personal lawyer was back on television over the weekend, trying to clean up the political scandal engulfing him and his client. in an interview yesterday, giuliani claimed that if trump had not asked ukraine to investigate joe, and hunter biden, the president would have been violating the constitution. >> are you telling me if there was evidence that barack obama was calling up the russians and saying i want you to look into donald trump, that you wouldn't be blowing -- >> he didn't do that that. >> i know he didn't do that. he didn't do that. trump didn't do that. he called you up and said i want you to investigation these charges of corruption. if he doesn't asked them to investigate biden, it would have violated article two, section three of the constitution and i also know, if obama had called

biden in, when "the new york times" first broke the story, in december of 2015, that his son had a massive conflict of interest, working for the most corrupt oligarch in russia, and ukraine, and if obama had called him in, like a president who understood article two section three and said joe, what the heck are you doing with your son who just got toss all of the military, where i had to pull strings to get him in, working for the biggest crook, listen to me, the biggest crook in ukraine and we're trying to fix corruption in ukraine and you have him working for this guy who stole five billion? >> so meanwhile amid the growing scandal with the klinclient, ru giuliani suspended a trip to oar meana and found out that

vladimir putin was going to the conference and we don't need a distraction. according to the agenda online, giuliani was supposed to participate in a panel led by a long time adviser of putin since russia's invasion of ukraine five years ago. julia manchester is back with us. what do you make of the optics of the president's lawyer agreeing and then canceling an appearance last minute to a kremlin-backed conference and the fact that he didn't know vladimir putin was going to be there. >> we know giuliani attended the same conference last year. however, i think it is telling that he quickly pulled out. amid all of this controversy. the optics if giuliani went would simply be bad given the whistleblower report, lots of baggage going back between president trump and vladimir putin, with the entire mueller investigation. so i think, i don't know this for certain, but i would imagine that there was some sort of white house forces or some

advisers telling giuliani it is probably good for the sake of the administration, for the sake of the president, during all of this activity in washington, to really pull out of this conference. >> how, julia, is the trump administration hoping to combat this impeachment inquiry? >> so we're seeing the trump administration work a low obviously with the republicans in the house and the senate as well as the trump campaign. we saw last week that after nancy pelosi launched that inquiry and made the announcement, the trump campaign, in partnership with the republican party, raised nearly $13 million. and they're essentially kind of relying on this talking point that democrats in congress, especially the house, don't want to work with republicans, on kitchen table issues such as health care, the economy, and other every day issues. they're trying to paint democrats as out of touch with the american people, they're relying on previous polling data that says that americans aren't as in favor of impeachment. so you're going to see more talking points really form going forward and you're going to see

more strategies come out. but right now, going into 2020, there's certainly partnering with the trump campaign. >> julia manchester live in dc for us, thanks. >> thank you. still ahead, president trump meets with number ra chief wayne la pierre as lawmakers push for new legislation on gun laws. the pushback the organization is giving over what the two men reportedly talked about. >> details on that. plus another check on the forecast, following a weekend of wild weather across the country. the first look at "morning joe," back in a moment. ok i'll admit. i didn't keep my place as clean as i would like 'cuz i'm way too busy. who's got the time to chase around down dirt, dust and hair? so now, i use heavy duty swiffer sweeper and dusters. for hard-to-reach places, duster makes it easy to clean. it captures dust in one swipe. ha! gotcha! and sweeper heavy duty cloths lock away twice as much dirt and dust. it gets stuff deep in the grooves other tools can miss. y'know what? my place... is a lot cleaner now. stop cleaning. start swiffering.

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whether trump asked la pierre for his support or what that support would look like. the nra issued a statement on friday in response to the times reporting stating in part quote, the nra is not in clued to discuss private conversations with the president, however many accounts of the meeting as reported in "the new york times" are inaccurate. the nra categorically denies any discussion of -- >> the times notes that the nra has questioned the ability to hold back the 2020 campaign and voiced concerns the group may be going bankrupt and may lack the political clout it had in 2016. >> janessa has a look at the weather. >> parts of the washington area have opened ski re sorts. over 19 inches of snow. seems a little early for me but we do have that record heat that is building. even though the pacific northwest is still dealing with a few advisories for montana, this morning.

that whole system will make its way to the north. now on the other end, we still have highs that are well above average for this time of the year. chicago, a high air temperature today of 85 degrees. but you factor in the humidity, most locations in the southeast and the plains are going to feel in that triple digit territory. and that's going to continue to build next 24 hours. even for the mid atlantic. and i do expect a lot of records to be broken for the carolinas, this afternoon. by wednesday, we are forecasting 100 to 150 locations beating records, and then it shifts to the northeast, we won't be left out of the mix from new york city to boston as well. highs are going to hit records near 90 degrees as well. so we're also watching a system that is going to cause that flooding rain for the southwest. new mexico, you're on our radar here, and we have massive rain for el paso, to albuquerque, we could see one inch per hour, but

that is going to lead to days of excessive rain for the plains. so that flood threat will continue for your wednesday. we will start to dry out for the mid atlantic. but you can see the different change in the weather pattern, this is where the cold front is, it will linger across the great lakes, into the mid atlantic, and northeast as well. in the next five to seven days. so a transition is coming. i think more ski resorts will start to open for the midwest and northeast here soon. >> thanks. still ahead, the new steps the white house is mulling, taking against china amid the ongoing trade war with beijing. >> one of the innovators is of fast fashion, photograph forever 21, announced it is filing for bankruptcy. that story and other details driving your business day coming up. ails driving your business day coming up color. full of... woo! full of good. so you can be too. try our new warm grain bowls today. order now on grubhub. try our new warm grain bowls today. a lot will happen in your life.

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the amazon effect, and other high profile case we had earlier this year with charlotte ruse, another retailer filing for chapter 11 bankruptcy. i should mention they are facing another issue. because a couple of weeks ago ariana grande the singer filed a lawsuit against them for illegally using her name to promote their clothing and beauty lines. by using a model that uncannily resembles her. that is another issue they have to contend with as well with forever 21. elsewhere, markets, wall street on friday ended the session in the red. and on the trade war front, there are reports on friday that came out on friday saying that the u.s. is deliberating restricting investments in china and retaliation for that, some reports that said that the u.s. was considering delisting chinese companies from u.s. exchanges. is that would be one step further in this trade war, tit for tat, and it comes ahead of october 10 when we have the

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welcome back. joining us from washington with a look at axios am, nick johnson. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> talk to us about axios' one big thing today. >> one big thing, the trump playbook for planting suspicion. he's pulling a page from his old playbook. the way he's going after the biden family, corruption in the ukraine. this is a standard approach the president has been using, the .

the flplaybook is be relentlessn talking about it, not necessarily with facts, using the megaphones of social media to hammer away at the p topics. let there be a sense of finality. the question is never answered, whether the things are true or not. this is something the president has ramped up in the impeachment fight and the 2020 campaign. it is useful to look back at some of his greatest hits to see how this unfolded. the president was part of the birther movement, the conspiracy theory president obama wasn't born in the united states. he hammered away at that relentlessly. also talked about president obama tapping his phone. he raised it on a hunch during the campaign trail. he's gone after immigrants, calling them criminals. of course, the granddaddy or grandmother of them all is his attacks on hillary clinton. everything from the emails and the private server, whether they were deleted, to allegations of corruption in the clinton foundation. of course, the ukrainian deal. this is a typical playbook

against biden. >> could you possibly see president trump start to deviate from his playbook you outlined as he continues his 2020 campaign? >> you know, i think the easy answer, we're only going to see more of it. this is something that definitely works. using trump's twitter and tweets as a megaphone and the amplifies around that. definitely a way they use to frame their opponents, attack their opponents, and plant the mine among voters that there is something suspicious about some of these people that it sis in the back of their mind. when president trump goes on stage to talk about hillary clinton, people still chant, lock her up. it's been in the playbook the entire time. >> the trump white house is preparing for congressional democrats and their impeachment push, but their war room, as we have them reporting, is not like past presidents. why could this hurt their offense? >> democrats who are a part of the impeachment campaign against hillary -- i mean, against bill clinton in the '90s say impeachment is different than something like the mueller investigation. the trump folks are saying,

look, we won on mueller. we'll win on impeachment. we'll stick to the same rules. democrats involved in the impeachment in the '90s say this is very different. there is more power to compel information and go through the articles of impeachment. it is more important to have lawyers and message folks that you can build a strategy around. the trump folks don't say it, but it is trump himself. he's not going to change how he approaches twitter, change how he uses rudy giuliani and lindsey graham to run to the tv to do his defense. >> i want to get your thoughts on the top democrat s who are starting to see a point of no return on impeachment. interestingly enough, there are democratic senators like doug jones of alabama, also reluctant to go down the road of impeachment. what could this mean for potential gridlock on capitol hill? >> right. the one takeaway here, this is a runaway freight train. we have folks in the house in favor of starting the inquiry. it is hard to see how it doesn't

go to actual impeachment. this is going to consume the house for the foreseeable future. democrats are telling us that blows the legislative agenda out of the water, possibly moving forward on guns, prescription drugs, free trade. none of it will be happenings with the impeachment battle. others will say, look, it was an unrealistic expectation. nothing was going to happen before the election anyway. cool your jets. >> what are you watching the most this week? there is a lot to watch. >> i knew you were going to ask this, and i have an answer i'm not proud of. i think i'll be watching the president's twitter account. he took to it a lot over the weekend, ratcheting up his attacks on folks involved in impeachment. i'll see if that continues. like we said, there is not a war room fighting this back. it is all coming from the president's head. the best window into that is what he says on twitter. >> basically, nicholas is not putting his phone down all week, given the pace of tweets that have come out over the weekend. >> what have i missed while i had it down? >> exactly. >> nicholas johnson, thank you for joining us. we'll be reading axios am in a

big. viewers, you can sign up at signup.axios.com. that does it for us. i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. in fact, i'm a legitimate whistle-blower. >> the president is the whistle-blower here. the whistle-blower here. the president of the united states is the whistle-blower. >> wow. i guess if you can't beat them, you join them? not sure about that strategy. good morning and welcome to ""morning joe"". it is monday, september 30th. with us we have white house reporter for the associated press jonathan la mere, columnist for "the washington post," u.s. national editor at the financial times, edward loose joins us and heidi will be here in just a moment. we've got a lot going on, but why don't we start off with the poll. >> why don't we do that. if you want to understand the