state department diplomats will not testify tomorrow after he himself failed to admit listening in on the ukraine call when asked about it last week. >> i haven't had, uh, a chance to read the whistle-blower complaint yet. uh, i read the first couple of paragraphs and then got busy today. secret agent man? reports that attorney general bill barr has been flying to meetings with foreign leaders, investigating how the mueller probe got started. >> we really don't know what the predicate to this is. there hasn't been a credible allegation of wrongdoing surrounding how that investigation was opened. and secret identity. from the oval office, the president tries to discredit and expose the identity of the whistle-blower. >> we have a whistle-blower that reports things that were incorrect. i made a call. the call was perfect.

and good day, everyone, i'm criter andrea mitchell in washington. a busy day. the secretary of state is signaling he will not let diplomats testify to key committees who are investigating the president. he sent a letter to house foreign affairs chairman eliot engel trying to block key figures in the whistle-blower complaint from answering questions under oath. this as the president's private lawyer rudy giuliani says he may not comply with his subpoena. the investigation is widening to cover key figures like mike pompeo who failed to acknowledge he was listening in on the president's call to the president of ukraine. >> "the wall street journal" is

reporting the president pressed the president of ukraine eight times to cooperate with rudy giuliani in investigating joe biden's son. >> so you've highlighted the whistle-blower complaint, which i haven't seen. >> nbc's peter alexander, nbc's pete williams, and justice department correspondent anne gearan. peter, first to you at the white house, there's clearly an effort to slow this impeachment down and the secretary of state posting a letter on twitter that he sent to eliot engel today, he's in italy meeting with italian leaders. he hasn't fully answered whether he will provide the documents he's opinion subpoenaed to turn over but he's trying to stop state department officials from

testifying. >> andrea, you're exactly right, from moike pompeo we are hearin very twitter and this letter he sent, pompeo says -- effectively accusing democrats of bullying and treating improperly the distinguished professionals of the state department, the foreign service officers that work there. there are several committees that have been trying to take depositions from five current and former officials within the state department over the next a couple of weeks. they include the former ambassador to ukraine. they include the former special envoy to ukraine that we've talked about in recent days, kurt volker, who recently resigned. the deadline for those depositions to be taken was set as october 4th, only a couple of days from now. mike pompeo in that letter saying that those depositions are in his words, quote, not feasible. you played that important sound bite in the introduction here

about how pompeo was very careful in his response when asked by our colleagues at abc news about any knowledge he had as it related to the whistle-blower complaint. he said he didn't have knowledge of the complaint but we now have confirmed he certainly had knowledge of the call, as he was one of those on that call. but his is not the only name, andrea, that's facing new scrutiny right now. rudy giuliani facing a subpoena for not so much documents but text messages, phone records and other communications that are at the heart of this investigation. william barr, you'll be talking about with my colleague pete williams as well. the president pushing back today, saying that the whistle-blower has, quote, secondhand information, and that the information is wrong. but we heard overnight the inspector general saying a rare rebuke, saying this was not secondhand information and he was able to deem it credible in less than 14 days.

>> thanks so much, peter. i want to show part of that letter from pompeo that we just received today as he's an in italy. he posted this on twitter. i have also been made aware that committee staff has been sending intimidating communications to career department professionals. let me be clear, i will not tolerate such tactics and will use all means to protect the professionals whom i lead. anne gearan, that includes the ousted ambassador to ukraine, marie i don't have to yovanovit scheduled to be deposed tomorrow. is she not going to cooperate with house intel tomorrow? >> we don't know what her goal

is here or her level of interest or willingness to appear before the committee. it's a little rich that the secretary of state, who certainly was well aware of if not involved in the efforts to recall her from her post early in kiev is now ter briribly wor about propriety here and whether she should testify. other officials were requested by the committee on friday, including kurt volker but also including folks most people will not have heard of, a counsel of the state department, an old friend and classmate of pompeo's, and a lower level person who would be involved in that part of the world, deputy assistant secretary of state. and the european union ambassador who accompanied volker to kiev on what appears to have been a cleanup mission the day after the call.

>> so this really goes to the heart of what was going on with rudy giuliani's shadow diplomacy. that's what they're trying to go to to the bottom of. this was clearly empowered by the secretary of state, it could not have happened without his knowledge. his close friend, ulrich brechbuhl, who was a classmate at west point, he was a business partner of mike pompeo's in kansas in a defense industry koch brothers funded defense company, and has been brought with him to the state department. so this is the real inner circle of mike pompeo world. >> absolutely. although i think there's distinction between pompeo empowering guiliani and the degree to which they were circling one another. pompeo department like the fact that giuliani was messing around on his turf. so i think part of what pompeo was interested in doing was finding out what giuliani was

doing, not so much helping him. >> and, you know, pete williams, there's a lot of controversy over william barr, first of all because of his behavior in the immediate aftermath of the mueller probe's release. a lot of suspicion of william barr regarding a number of investigations. here it all comes together. just to clarify, this is what the president said in may about what he was ordering william barr to do, which was to investigate the origins of the mueller probe. the president following conspiracy theories about how the democrats had actually launched this, which is really disputed. this is what the president had to say about what william barr's mission was. >> the attorney general is one of the most respected people in this country and evaluated been for a long period of time. ing he has going to look at a lot of documents. some he might find interesting. maybe he'll find none

interesting. he can look. i have hope he looks at the uk and i hope he looks at australia and he hope he looks at the ukraine. because there was a hoax perpetrated on our country. >> so the president was out there saying it, which should lend some context to the shock and dismay that some have expressed over the fact that the president actually did call the australian prime minister and tried to clear the way for the attorney general to find out more about how the mueller probe started. >> so a couple of things. number one, the point they're trying to make at the justice department is they don't doubt the conclusion that the russians meddled in the election. this is not an attempt to undercut that. the separate question, they say, the one that mr. barr has actually talked about since before the president's announcement and some of his appearances on the hill is, did the u.s. intelligence agencies

conduct themselves properly when they launched an investigation of the presidential campaign. that's what he wants to know. so yes, the justice department said, the president called the prime minister of australia, john durham, who barr asked to lead the investigation, asking the president to open the door for that. sometimes these countries, the justice department says, want to hear from barr himself so sometimes he has gone with durham to the uk and italy, for example. but it's all about trying to find out whether in the early stages of the fbi and other agencies looking at the presidential campaign, did they do anything wrong. that's what they say barr is trying to do. and you probably saw barr quoted over the weekend saying he was angry or disappointed or i can't remember what the right tellrm , to find out that the president

raised his name in the conversation with the ukraine, because justice has been out there saying barr never knew about that call until he was told about it later, that he's never talked with jugiuliani abt it, never talked to the president about it. they're trying to draw line between what he's doing and what giuliani is doing. >> what i'm drawing from the president's twitter feed and all his comments, maybe william barr is not trying to overturn or question the conclusion that russia was behind the hacking and behind the interference. the president of the united states is. the president of the united states has embraced all of these conspiracy theories on twitter and in the conversation with the ukrainian -- with zelensky when he brings up crowdstrike, he's trying to say that ukraine and the democrats interfered, not russia, and by doing that, he's basically, i believe, trying to

exonerate manafort and lay the predicate for a pardon. whether barr is involved is another question. ic i can tell you that the president of the united states is trying to overturn and has not fully accepted that russia interfered because he's saying that ukraine did it. if you read half of what rudy is saying, that's what he's saying as well, which brings me to our colleague on the hill, geoff, let's talk about rudy giuliani. if he refuses to testify, they're not clear that they want to call him, they want to depose him privately, they don't necessarily want to put him on camera, having faced corey lewandowski. what if mike pompeo puts a guardrail around all these potential witnesses? the key to their investigation is to do it completely and quickly and only on this ukraine whistle-blower complaint.

that's what nancy pelosi has ordered, that's what adam schiff is empowered to do. if they can't get state department witnesses, they're blocked. >> and here's what's so interesting about this, we have not yet heard from respective committee chairs in response to secretary pompeo's letter. we'll start with the caveat, we are not in the speculation business, but i will make an informed conjecture based on my reporting. i think what house democrats did, i think they set these depositions knowing full well in advance that the secretary of state would be less than fully compliant. and if he ended up being less than fully compliant, they would be prepared to use that stonewalling, as they see it, as grounds for a separate article of impeachment, obstruction of congress. the reason i say that is that was the strategy, house democrats tell me, behind calling corey lewandowski, the president's former campaign manager, in for a hearing. the televised portion of that hearing was a bit of a circus. i asked top house democrats why

they would invite that spectacle into their impeachment proceeding. their response was, you're assuming we were actually trying to get real answers from corey lewandowski. that's not what we're trying to achieve. we're trying to show he's part of the administration, the administration tried to claim executive privilege over his testimony, and they will use that as an article of impeachment. the letter that the secretary of state sent said these depositions were set without subpoenas. we could see the depositions set with subpoenas, and they could keep in their back pocket the potential to draft a separate article of impeachment on this obstruction piece, andrea. >> geoff, briefly, the problem they've had with the

post-mueller-report investigations is the assertion of executive privilege and other kinds of privileges, some of which haven't been used before, like against people who were never in the administration like corey lewandowski, slow it down. if they're to achieve this by a january deadline, they cannot go to court and have, you know, extended court hearings. they'll have to rely on the whistle-blower complaint, the whistle-blower, and leave it at that, and maybe kurt volker who has left the state department. >> you're right about that. that's why democrats to include house speaker nancy pelosi have said, what's already in the public record, what president trump has already admitted to doing, that in itself is an impeachable offense. they believe they don't even need the courts to make the public case, the impeachment case against president trump, andrea. >> thank you very much, geoff bennett, peter alexander, pete

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rudy giuliani is among those signaling he may not comply with a house subpoena escalating a fierce clash between democrats and trump associates who have stonewalled democrats' efforts to investigate the president. house intelligence committee chair adam schiff saying on "meet the press" this week that any refusals to comply with subpoenas will have greater consequences. >> the more they fight and try to prevent and obstruct the lawful functions of congress, the more they'll make the case for impeachment for obstruction of congress of the rule of law. >> joining me is democratic congressman joe neguse, one of

the first democrats to call for an impeachment inquiry. welcome, congressman, thank you very much. first of all, what do you think about the objections from the secretary of state today to any testimony from members of his diplomatic corps? >> good afternoon, andrea, thanks for having me on. you think his actions as revealed in the letter released earlier today is not all that dissimilar from the wholesale obstruction of congress that this administration has been engaged in for the better part of the last nine, ten months. we saw that obviously with the number of subpoenas issued by the judiciary committee, interactions with attorney general barr and so forth. i will say chairman schiff, who i think has done a masterful job of getting to the bottom of the facts and exposing the facts to the american people, he articulated very well the task before the house, which is to say we're hopeful that witnesses will comply with subpoenas that are duly issued by the committees of jurisdiction, but

to the extent that they do not, as you know, nearly 50 years ago, when the impeachment proceedings were proceeding against president nixon, one of the articles of impeachment was contest of congress because of his administration's refusal to comply with duly-issued subpoenas. the administration has a choice to make, whether they'll comply or whether they're conduct will form the basis of evidence that will be used as we consider whether to recommend articles of impeachment to the full house. >> the calendar is also a big part of all of this, because if they slow-walk this and you're tied up in court trying to get testimony, it won't get done before 2020, and then you're in the full campaign election year. and that is going to overwhelm everything else. >> i think the speaker has been very clear, there is no set

timeline. we're going to follow the facts where they lead us. of course we're moving in a very expeditious fashion. you saw that in terms of the deposition document requests, the deposition notices and subpoenas issued in the last two weeks. i imagine the obstruction of our ability to get to the bottom of all of this is going to continue, that the administration will continue to engage in these tactics. ultimately the calliucus, the committees of jurisdiction will have a decision to make as to how to proceed. ultimately we'll do this one step at a time. let's see how the hearings go that are scheduled to proceed this week and we'll go from there. >> what is your message to some of your fellow freshmen, seven or eight of them, who have so far opposed going with impeachment? >> i would say a couple of things. first, clearly there is a very strong consensus within the

democratic caucus in the house that the president's conduct as exposed last week by the whistle-blower's complaint and the call summary notes was beyond the pale and ultimately we as an article i branch have an obligation to hold him accountable. there are a lot more shoes to drop over the coming weeks. we shouldn't lose sight of the facts that you have reported, which is that the president encouraged a foreign power to target an american citizen. that's a betrayal of the presidency and a betrayal of the constitution, in my view. as you know from covering the caucus for many years, we're a big tent caucus, we'll have a plethora of different views on how to proceed. clearly you've seen a consensus emerge over the last weeks and i imagine that will only continue to grow. >> what are you hearing back home from your constituents over

the recess? >> i'm hearing from constituents who are deeply concerned about the president's conduct. i trust the american people, and the truth of the matter is they recognize an abuse of power when they see it. and last week, when the call summary notes became public, when the whistle-blower's complaint became public, the american public recognized that what the president had done, as i said, was beyond the pale. i've never lost faith in the ability of congress is the article i branch to ultimately hold the president accountable and defend the constitution, and nor should the american public. and my constituents have certainly made clear to me we should continue to follow the facts, we should approach the task hand in a solemn and sober way. >> thank you very much, congressman joe neguse. >> thank you. coming up, a rare statement from the inspector general, knocking down the president's recent claims about the ukrainian whistle-blower. stay with us.

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president trump is ramping up his attacks against the

ukrainian whistle-blower tweeting today, if the so-called whistleblower has secondhand information, why aren't we entitled to learn more about and interview the whistle-blower? the intelligence community's inspector general, in a rare rebuttal overnight, issued a statement saying that the law has not changed, that the whistle-blower possessed, quote, firsthand and other information which the ig considered urgent and appeared credible. joining me is jeffrey smith, former counsel at the cia and ned price, former senior director in president obama's national security council and an msnbc national security analyst. jeff smith, you're the lawyer. you've been cia, you've been pentagon. the whistle-blower law should protect the whistle-blower but

the president as the commander in chief and chief executive, does he have the power to expose the whistle-blower? >> no, it would be grossly wrong and an abuse of power. the whistle-blower took great courage to do the right thing. for the president to wish to bully this person, which seems to be his modus operandi, is just a gross abuse of power and puts this individual at grave physical risk. it should never happen. >> let's take a look at what the president said when hallie jackson was asking questions in the oval office. >> mr. president, do you know now who the whistle-blower is, sir? >> well we're trying to find out about a whistle-blower. we have a whistle-blower that reports things that are incorrect. as you know and you probably have now figured it out, the statement i made to the president of ukraine, a good

man, a nice man, was perfect. it was perfect. but the whistle-blower reported a totally different statement. >> ned price, there are a lot of incorrect statements in that statement, but what about the exposure, potential exposure of the whistle-blower and concerns about his or her safety? >> well, here's the crux of all this, andrea. donald trump wants this to be about a single person. he wants a target. he wants to personify this so the president, and his allies, can pick apart the background, the motivations, the relationships of a single individual. they're going back to the staple playbook they enacted vis-à-vis christopher steele in their efforts to discredit the steele dossier. they're using the same tactics they used against bob mueller and his prosecutors. but this isn't about a single person. this is about much broader principles. this is about democracy. this is about national security. this is about the idea that we have a president and not a king

and that our foreign policy must not act as the research arm of trump's 2020 presidential campaign. if this is about one person, it's about donald trump, about how he betrayed the american people, how he betrayed the oath of office, and how he's put our national security up for sale. this isn't about the whistle-blower. we have to keep it focused on president trump. >> senator mark warner wrote a statement saying today, it is deeply disturbing that the president told the american people he's trying to find out the whistle-blower's identity. the president's comments about spies and treason and what we did in the old days will do lasting damage to national security. senator grassley, chair of the judiciary committee in the senate, said no one should be making judgments before we find out the facts.

jeff smith, as part of this whole attempt to undercut the mueller robe and russia hacking, the conspiracy theories the president seems to be pursuing in that phone call with the new ukrainian president, what is your take on what they're doing as they try to push back on the whole theory and -- well, it's more than theory, it's what the intelligence community said unanimously about russia's role in all of this, not ukraine's role. >> yes. lawyers have an expression, facts are stubborn things. and the facts are that in the summer of 2016, the intelligence community learned of russian attempts to influence the election, and they did the right thing. for them to have done anything else would have been grossly irresponsible. mueller looked at this carefully, found nothing wrong. the inspector general of the department of justice is looking at whether or not anything went wrong in the initial stages, that's a fair question.

but the fact is that the russians did seek to interfere perform for trump at this point to be trying to prove somehow that the earth is flat and use the power of government to do it and intimidate people, particularly career government servants, is grossly dangerous. and i must say i'm proud of these people who have stepped forward and done the right thing. i was recently at the cia for a few other matters, completely unrelated. they're doing their job. they're working hard. all americans would be proud of what they're doing. and the president in going after the cia and the fbi is doing great damage to them. and he does not appreciate, does not seem to appreciate what he's doing or the damage he's ultimately causing. >> can the secretary of state prevent career diplomats from testifying? >> typically no. i spent a number of years at the

department of state and we always drew a line between people who had been confirmed by the senate. they had to go testify when they were asked. and people who were just below that line, deputy assistant secretaries and so on, also had to go and testify. we tried to prevent congress from reaching down to lower levels, desk officers and so on. i don't see that there's any basis for the secretary to refuse for them to testify at this point. i gather his statement said they need to get more of the facts. well, that's fair, give them time to prepare, but ultimately they must step forward and answer questions from congress about what happened. >> jeff smith, thank you for your invaluable advice, given your long experience earned many administrations. and ned price, of course, as well to you at the nsc and the cia. breaking news out of dallas, texas today. former police officer amber guyger has been found guilty of murder for fatally shooting her

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with impeachment politics roiling the country for only the fourth time in history, a candid admission today from hillary clinton who is promoting a new book she wrote with her daughter chelsea called "the book of gutsy women." clinton of course lived through that last impeachment as first lady. >> what's the gutsiest thing you've ever done? >> personally, the decision to stay in my marriage. publicly, politically, run for president. and to get up every day and keep going. >> wow. joining me now, elise jordan, former white house aide in the george w. bush white house, and sam stein, msnbc contributor, and neera tanden, you know hillary clinton better than any of us, that was quite an admission.

>> i think she was being very candid. i actually worked for hillary during the last impeachment process and the whole monica lewinsky scandal. it was a very, very painful process for her. i could see how much it deeply, deeply wounded her. it's an honest statement. >> and sam, the role of hillary clinton, the arc of her life politically as well, democrats have been trying to avoid talking about 2016, and she's come out with a new book with daughter chelsea, a book about women's experience, it's completely nonpolitical but inevitably she'll be asked about this. >> i've heard some rumblings about why is she emerging on the stage. i find it to be ridiculous, to be honest. she's former secretary of state,

former presidential candidate. if anyone can speak to what it's like to be targeted by russian disinformation campaigns, it's her. her talking about her marriage in those tones adds an element to our discourse around not "me too" necessarily but what the role is for women in these types of situations. her contribution to the conversation is vital now, not secondary. i'm glad she's speaking out. >> she was on stephen colbert last night on "late night." let's watch. >> how many times when you were secretary of state did you have to say to barack obama, you can't extort foreign countries to get dirt on your political enemies? i mean, did you lose count how many times you did that? >> yeah, that never happened. >> elise jordan, she is a unique voice in all of this. >> you just can't make it up,

how crazy things have gotten, that this is an issue that's a joke. and it's not a joke, it's kind of darkly funny. what stephen colbert was asking her wasn't a normal and shouldn't be a normal course of business, the kind of behavior, the abuse of power, using the oval this way, for donald trump's own political fortunes. >> and the whole issue of the impeachment inquiry is now becoming more acceptable to more people. we see in a new cnbc poll out today that the president's approval is actually at the lowest, 37%, the lowest it's been in this poll, and disapproval up to 53%, and impeachment, the cnbc versus the nbc/"wall street journal" polls, you see how much more acceptable the impeachment proceedings are becoming, which may influence what republicans end up doing. >> i think the truth is the

facts have been very difficult on the ukraine issue for the last week. and you've seen republicans on the sunday shows, elsewhere, really struggle. the president is basically lying to people regularly about the transcript versus the complaint, he's making up facts, because the facts are very difficult. this issue, unlike other issues, have really gotten through to the public. people understand what it looks like to extort a foreign ally in order to dig up dirt on your opponent. people understand what this is about. and we're at the beginning of this process. the issue is these numbers can move down for the president and up for the inquiry as we get more facts and see more obstruction. >> if the democrats manage this, unlike what they did after the mueller probe, frankly, with all the stonewalling from the president and the state department. >> how do you get the testimony and the documents, what do you do in terms of litigation, and there's managing from an

expectations at some point. do you run a war room of your own, run advertisements, things like that? that cnbc poll, i will say, is an outlier, other polls show president trump's approval ratings tick up a bit, which is not surprising, republicans who don't support impeachment. what's more interesting is the number supporting impeachment is ticking up and up. to neera's point, this is the beginning of the process, not the end. >> we have to leave it there, thanks to so much to all of you. watch more of hillary clinton tonight on "the rachel maddow show" on msnbc. coming up, joining me next, chuck todd joining me on "andrea mitchell reports." hey there people eligible for medicare.

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it has been a whirlwind 24 hours here in washington with all the breaking news surrounding the president, the impeachment inquiry, and the pushback now from the secretary of state. joining me is chuck todd, nbc's political director, moderator of "meet the press." chuck, the republicans, and i saw it right away from steve scalise with you on "meet the press" on sunday morning, they've got this deflection, they're just not answering the questions, they're misstate the questions, steve scalise, kevin mccarthy on "60 minutes," jim

jordan. is that the way it's going to go? >> i think it will be for a while. right now these folks have made the decision to the best way to defend the president is not to defend his actions but try to attack his opponents. and what i found i think it wil interesting, they will not defend what the president did. essentially trying to gloss over that as much as possible. trying to avoid getting into the specifics of how appropriate any of that stuff is. and instead try to make it overreach or try to make it about the democrats behavior, try to make it about, again, it is a standard defense strategy. the clinton's used it in their impeachment. it is what you do. i think it is interesting.

you have lindsey graham who is now how many a house republican again. look at chuck grassly today or a mitch mcconnell, the rules do stay i have to take it up, they're all just they are watching what they're doing with senate republicans. >> they're covering their what do you call its. they cannot look at what they're doing and not see it as a hedge. senate republicans are the ones not yet -- they're the most wobbly because they're struggling on this one. >> there is a lot of rules, he didn't do that. he went out of his way to say the rule is there. he was not afraid of essentially

changing and sort of using the system with merrick garland. no one knows how to manipulate the rules better thank mitch mcconnell. the fact that he didn't, he has to provide cover for nerve his conference. and not just those that are siding with trump and not just those that are totally never trump. i think he is looking at the broadest possible way to essentially keep distance, but at the same time still work in this way. >> isn't that a measure of how shocking to institutionalists the. ♪s from that phone kal were compared to the other issues around presidential candkand sc this administration. >> that makes a presumption that the people we have been covering for 20 years are still institutionalists.

there are people we have covered for 20 years that we thought would put the institution above the party. do i think mitch mcconnell is an institutionalist in his blood? what is that balance? we all know it is negotiable. >> what do you make of the poll indicators? is it too early? >> i am very skeptical on some of the in your opinions on this reason. i think voters are hearing impeachment and hear throw him out of office. it is not an investigation. so i worry that this is so

warped that we're probably under reporting, i think better polling will include questions that include the i word and then don't. so you can gauge what is the progress sense of who thinks this is troubling behavior. there is a difference. >> yeah, it is the nuclear -- yeah, totally agree. i think we're seeing incremental movement. just beginning. the third annual meet the press of the film festival kicks off, long on to the website for more details. >> i promise you will see a film

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