and that wraps it up for me. i'm richard luiment i'll be back for special coverage at 6:00 and 7:00 p.m. eastern. let me know what you think on twitter, instagram, and facebook. i turn it over to reverend al sharpton and "politicsnation." good evening and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lead, the fog of war is clearing. just as we were forming a semicomplete picture around just how true the complaint against president trump is, "the new york times" is reporting this weekend that a second one may come forward. this one, again, from the intelligence community, allegedly with even greater knowledge of the president's lean on ukraine to investigate

vice president joe biden's son, which the president has admitted to in addition to encouraging china to do the same. it caps the second week of the impeachment inquiry, a week in which the president seemed to melt down in public as closest advisers where revealed to have been at least at the very least adjacent to his july phone call to the president of the ukraine. among them, secretary of state mike pompeo, who failed to meet a house subpoena after admitting he was on that call. but pompeo is only one piece of an investigation that now includes subpoenas to the white house, the president's lawyer, rudy giuliani, and vice president mike pence. and there's that other smoking gun, those explosive text messages between u.s. diplomats involved in executing the

president's request to pressure ukraine. joining me now is democratic strategist lori watkins, former adviser to president obama who served as florida's policy director in 2012 during his re-election campaign, and currently is the political director of florida house victory, and republican strategist holly turner, former congress department administrator under president trump. let me go to you first, holly. this is in many ways a week that many are feeling has led to even more of the reasons behind the impeachment inquiry and the need to really go full throttle towards seeing what is going on here with this president. how are republicans and the white house reading this and the silence by many of the republican leadership sort of

giving an indication that maybe they are trying to weigh which way they can go, given that they have many of their senate seats up for re-election? >> well, there's not been a whole a lot of silence. i think you heard a lot of republican leadership call out this coup that is happening against the president right now. look, i think what we're seeing is the problem with speaker pelosi not going about this impeachment in a traditional way, going through a full vote of the house because we don't have the ground rules, we don't have the way this whole process is going to happen. >> when you say a coup, how is an impeachment inquiry based on a whistle-blower that the inspector general appointed by trump said is of urgent concern? how is that a coup? >> well, first of all, the white house, because there are no ground rules, the white house doesn't van opportunity to call their own witnesses and subpoena

their own witnesses. >> you jumped my question. my question is how is it a coup? your inspector general said this was a matter of urgency. how is it a coup to listen to the inspector general appointed by mr. trump? >> the inspector general is right to bring this to the attention. this president is all for full transparency. but when adam schiff and the whistle-blower are coordinating before the whistle-blower complaint has even been drawn up, that is a coup. when democrats are -- >> how is that a coup? if the whistle-blower went to adam schiff's committee and they sent him to the ig, that is what they're supposed to do, isn't that true, lori? it would be different if they did not tell him to go to the inspector general. they sent him to the inspector general, the inspector general, appointed by president trump, is the one that said this is an urgent and credible matter. >> to continue to call a coup --

to call this a coup, which is what the message from the gop wants to continue to shove down throats of the american public, it is not a coup. to protect the constitution of the united states is not a coup. i will say that again. protecting the constitution is not a coup. it is protecting the checks and balance system we have within this country and what protects abuses of power, which is exactly the theme of president trump's re-election cane and what the administration is trying to continue to message every single day, which there's nothing to see here, there's nothing going on, and this is just an attempt by not just the democrats but the american public to investigate what's going on here, and making sure the president and his administration and those involved are absolutely held accountable for their actions. >> laurie, does it not bother

and you other republicans that the president is not only being questioned about this by his inspector general, but that now he's come out and asked china and others, foreign governments to investigate and in effect, interfere with the electoral policies of this country by investigating his opponent? >> well, reverend, first of all, biden doesn't have a chance in this primary. >> so what does that have to do with interfering with the politics? >> it's not the president's opponent, so he's not asking them to investigate. >> his potential opponent. >> most of his requests have been about the 2016 election, which democrats have wanted to investigate. >> he didn't ask china to investigate the 2016 election. he asked them to investigate joe biden's son. >> he asked them to investigate corruption. >> he asked them to investigate joe biden's son. >> he's not running against joe biden's son.

>> then why is he so obsessed with china going after joe biden's son when every poll says joe biden is the one among the democrats that can handily beat him? that's just a coincidence? >> first of all, joe biden is done. i mean, this race is over. and i want to know why is obama so silent on this? why isn't he standing up and defending his vice president. >> i didn't know obama was in office. we're talking about people that your administration that you support has put in as ig, they're supposed to do their job. he could have said there's no merit to this and cast it aside. he did not. he said that this is urgent and this is credible. are you calling the inspector general wrong on his call? what is the basis if you are? >> absolutely not. look, we should investigate. that is why the white house immediately released a transcript of that call.

we want to be transparent. >> they released a summation. >> that's all there is for every call. i'm sure under the obama administration it was the same way. we want transparency, let's investigate this, and then if there's something here, then you go to a formal impeachment proceedings. >> laurie, let me go to you on this. they say that the summation was all that we need to release. but then there were text messages that were released that have u.s. diplomats in effect pressuring the ukraine officials to comply with the wishes of the president on these matters of investigating joe biden's son in order to get the meeting they wanted with all the bells and whistles for the president of ukraine. so we have not only the summation, we have the actual text messages. >> where do you want to holly, rev, i will say please don't compare the obama presidency to

this current administration. this administration is an administration of am chures. they continue to involve themselves in shady and corrupt activities that may not continue on do -- that just continue down the line. you have an attorney trying to be a pseudoforeign diplomat, which he has no experience doing. if i was the president, i would ask his attorney to stop intervening on his behalf because he's only making matters worse so we are just at the beginning of what's happening here, and i look forward to more information, more details, and more evidence coming out to continue to build the case, the american people are building the case against this president, that he has committed wrong

actions and that he is using his power, wielding his power to influence not just other states of government, but our election and our current political process here in the united states. and that cannot happen. >> laurie, would it disturb you if it is a fact that the president has tried to get ukraine and china and others to interfere with an american election? would it disturb you when the republicans have campaigned on america first, and now you're trying to get foreign governments to do things that will have a direct impact on american elections? would it bother you at all? >> absolutely, rev. it bothers me. that's why i'm on here speaking today. that's why, you know, the democratic party and splonancy pelosi is working hard to bring truth to power, to uncover what this administration has done to continue to pull the wool over the eyes of the american people. >> would it bother you, holly?

>> to interfere in elections? absolutely. but to uncover corruption and uncover past interference in our elections, that is the president's j and he's doing it very well. if the takes a bumbling of . >> one has nothing to do with the other. we're talking about whether or not it would bother you and the republican leadership that this president directly targeted someone to basically make an impact on an american election. i don't care what you say he did right. we're talking about the allegations of wrong here. >> well, i don't think he's asking them to -- >> i'm saying would it bother you if that is proven to be the case? >> if he asked a foreign government to interfere and violate our election laws to impact an election. >> which he did. >> yes, that would bother me and he has not done that and i don't

believe he will. >> how do we know if we don't have an inquiry to get the evidence before the american public and before the congress. >> let's do it. >> is that not how the constitution is written? >> let's do it. the problem, adam schiff keeps promising there's corruption and stuff being hidden and he doesn't produce anything. so i s so. >> that is your ig. we have to hold it there. we'll have more with holly and laurie later in the show. coming up, president trump says he has absolute right to ask other countries to investigate corruption. but does he really? we'll ask a member of the senate foreign relations committee. later, special message on voting from president obama. you heard it right, president obama said vote in a few minutes. we'll let you know when and where he said it. my colleague, richard lui, with some of the day's top stories. >> thanks a lot, rev. some of the stories we're watching, nuclear talks between

the u.s. and north korea have broken down. this on the same day they started. the hermit kingdom blamed it on the united states saying officials wouldn't give up their attitudes. 2020 contender senator bernie sanders has left las vegas and is returning home to vermont. he was released from the hospital yesterday following a heart attack tuesday. his campaign released a statement from his doctors that said he had two extenstents put iran nelgdsing with the presidential election? "the new york times" trump's re-election campaign has been targeted. they made more than 2,700 attempts to identify the email accounts of u.s. government officials and journalists covering political campaigns. stick around. more "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton right after break. with reverend al sharpton right after break. panera's new warm grain bowls are full of good.

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china should start an investigation into the bidens because what happened to china is just about as bad as what happened with -- with ukraine. so i would say that president zelensky, if it were me, i would recommend that they start an investigation into the bidens because nobody has any doubt

that they weren't crooked. >> in the midst of the ongoing impeachment inquiry over whether the president abused his office to pressure ukraine into investigating a political rival, president trump took an unusual step by essentially confessing to do just that. and "the washington post" is reporting today that trump's calls with foreign leaders have been leaving some aides, quote, genuinely horrified, and that he, quote, would make promises he shouldn't keep, the united states long opposed, committed a diplomatic blunder, or pressure a counterpart for a personal favor. let's ask a member of the senate committee on foreign relations, democratic senator jeff merkley of oregon state. is it not your contention as a member of that committee that a

president or anyone in elected office ought not be asking foreign governments to interfere with american political elections for their own personal gain? >> rev, good to be with you. no, this is clearly an extensive abuse of power. i think bill taylor, who was the acting ambassador to the chief mission to the ukraine, who was a professional diplomat. he had been an ambassador to the ukraine under george h.w. bush. he said i think it's crazy for the president to be essentially exchanging security assistance for political assistance or political campaign help. i think, yes, it's crazy, and it's more than crazy. it's a huge abuse of power. >> now, when we hear a statement like that that he thought it was crazy, and we're talking, as you

just stated, about abuse of power, we're talking about a president now that talked about america first and all these things that clearly in two instances the whistle-blower talking about ukraine and there may be a second whistle-blower we're now told who has even more direct information. and we have the president himself, which we just played, saying that china ought to investigate the bidens, not investigate corruption, but the bidens, and joe biden is potentially a candidate against him. he's certainly running in order to be that. >> yeah. this is all absolutely about the 2020 campaign, undermining vice president biden as a contender in that campaign. to be asking the help of china, the help of the ukraine and who knows what other countries the president's weighed in to get political favors. and it's not just asking for

favors, it's also using the power of the u.s. government, because there were two things in the case of the conversation with ukraine. one was ukraine wanted a meeting, a presidential-level meeting between their president and our president, and second, we had allocated security assistance to ukraine and it was being held up by the trump administration. in the words of bill taylor, there was a connection between holding up the security assistance and getting the political favor completed. and so this is a huge leverage to bear, not bringing the resources of the united states for our collective foreign policy goals or our security. this is trying to use it in a campaign, and this is absolutely something that would horrify everyone around him. seems to be only the president who did not. >> does it not suggest that when

the president was talking to the president of ukraine in a conversation that the white house even conceded, that he said do me a favor, which would imply that he knew he was stepping outside of the bounds of one head of state to another, a head of state we had congressional approval of $390 million in military aid, in security aid to the ukraine. why would he even step outside and ask for a personal favor if, in fact, it was not just that, something that he personally wanted for some personal reasons or personal gain? >> the words themselves do me a favor, i don't think those words alone carry the weight of knowing that things are off track because you can envision a president saying i want you to work on this issue, we're going to work on another issue, it

will help both of our countries in the context of a goal of u.s. national security or foreign policy. but it's the context in which those words were being spoken. >> right. >> in a conversation about ukraine wanting assistance and wanting a meeting. >> now, the fact that we also are told that secretary of state pompeo as well as the attorney general barr was talking to people around the world in situations like that. is that of concern to your committee? >> it is absolutely of concern. it appears the president was mobilizing all the resources at hand, his personal lawyer, his attorney general, his secretary of state. this is why the house has subpoenaed the secretary of state pompeo for documents. the secretary of state has not responded.

i'll tell you one of the things i'd like to know. when bill taylor said it's crazy to connect security assistance to help the in a political campaign, when he said that to gordon sondland in a text, he said let's stop texting each other. who did he talk to in those five hours? was it the secretary of state? was it the president himself? because clear he understood this was stuff he didn't want to document in a written record. therefore, he understood the impropriety involved in this. >> how can the democrats, you among them in the foreign affairs committee, get to the bottom of this ask dig down without being blocked by republicans in the senate and then the foreign affairs committee from really getting to all of the evidence that is available to be gotten to find out exactly things like you're

saying, who someone talked to, why and what was the context of the statement made by taylor of this is crazy, this ought not to be happening? how deep do you have confidence that you can dig as democrats on this committee? >> i think the senate foreign relations committee is not going to be of much help at this moment. the senate is run by the republican party. the republican party is not planning to be helpful. that is why the investigation that is critical at this point is in the house of representatives. >> oregon senator jeff merkley, thank you for being with us tonight. >> rev, good to be with you. coming up, white cop guns down an unarmed black man in his home and is sentenced to just ten years in jail. is that really fair? my thoughts on it, next. ♪

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the murder of a black teenager. my assailant pierced my chest with a five-inch blade, barely missing my heart and sending me to have emergency surgery with two very young daughters at home. despite his murderous and racist intentions, in time i forgave him. i did so not to excuse the ideology behind his attack or the hatred in his heart. no, no, i did it for me, for my family, and my sanity. and ultimately for my cause because i need a clear head to lead a passionate heart. this week black americans watched the trial and sentencing of former dplas dallas police officer amber guyger in the shooting death of botham jean, who was killed when guyger entered his apartment believing it was her own, she claims, and opened fire, killing jean. in the prime of his life, in his own home, because she claims she

was afraid. but despite the sheer absurdity of such conduct being exonerated, we never forgot that amber guyger was a cop. so when she was found guilty this week, many of us gasped, tragically hardened to how often fatal shootings go unpunished, even in cases like guyger's. but just as many of us were cautious about how much justice would be dolled out, and right fly so, because on wednesday ms. guyger received a ten-year sentence, eligible for parole in five for murdering botham jean. but while protesters were criticizing the weak punishment outside the courthouse, it was at the sentencing hearing that we heard this emotional request from jean's 18-year-old brother. >> i don't know if it's possible, can i give her a hug, please?

>> i won't criticize botham jean's brother or his family for grieving however they see fit. hate is a weight and they'll have enough to carry moving forward. but as i said before, forgiving an individual is not exonerating the system that produced or protected them. so i agree with critics of color who saw guyger being coddled from the trial's beginning by state investigators who insisted from the beginning that her conduct was reasonable for a trained field-tested cop. by the judge, who often hugs a bible, and the state's laws protecting people in their homes to defend guyger's actions in someone else's home. by guyger's fellow officers who overlooked a history of misconduct and personal racist

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time for some news on the 2020 democratic presidential

race. senator bernie sanders heading home to vermont today. he's actually in the air right now. he was discharged from a las vegas hospital after suffering a heart attack earlier this week. he'll be taking a few more days away from the campaign trail. and, of course, we all wish him a speedy recovery. meanwhile, senator sanders raised the most money of all democratic presidential campaigns in the third quarter of this year, pulling in a little more than $25 million, followed closely by elizabeth warren at $24 million. mayor pete buttigieg at $19 million, front-runner joe biden with just $15 million raised, and kamala harris with just over $11 million. separately, a recently poll has warren making significant inroads with the black community, a key voting block in the fight for the democratic

nomination. it shows 19% of black voters back the massachusetts senator, nearly doubling her support from august in the same poll. joining me now is south carolina state representative wendy braly, she has endorsed senator warren for president. senator brawly, thank you for being with us. you endorsed senator warren early, and you must be happy seeing her rise in the poll among black voters. >> first of all, thank you, reverend al, for having me. i certainly am happy to see the senator doing so well, not just among black voters but across the country in all demographics. >> i've seen her in several settings, many settings. i've been to all the debates. i saw her at national action network convention, my own, two years in a row where she received a very strong reaction, more than i expected the first

year she came. got a resounding reception. what is it that you think she's saying that is breaking through among black voters? let's start there, and other voters that people thought was beyond her reach just a few months ago that she seems to now have some real momentum going? >> i think if you've ever heard the senator speak, she speaks in just personable terms. she talks about her life and shares poignant moments she went through as a young person, as a mom, as a person seeking employment. all those things when she talks about them resonate with regular folk. and i think when people hear that and how genuine that she delivers her message, they're impressed by it. i was with her when she was at reed chapel church in columbia,

south carolina. she got a standing ovation, so people understand genuineness and they appreciate the way she delivers her message. >> do you think the health scare we all shared on senator sanders, who, again, we hope makes full recovery and comes back strong in whatever he decides to do. but do you think the health scare will bring issues of age and health conditions into this campaign? because he is 78. senator warren is 70. the president is 73 or 74. and, of course, joe biden is in "n" his late 70s. do you think this issue will be brought back because of this health scare, and should the it brought back? >> let me wish senator sanders well and a speedy recovery. i think the voters will zichdec. most people are listening to the

message. senator warren has enormous energy. she brings that every time she speaks to a group. so i don't know that the age is much a factor as is the message. >> now, no one can win this nomination without a significant black vote. in south carolina when you're in the upper chamber of the state house the south carolina, it has, according to polls, overwhelmingly saying black voters are voting for joe biden. she's beginning to chip away at that. as you talk to our constituents and your constituents know you are for senator warren, why do you think we're seeing this erosion of support for vice president biden coming senator warren's way and not other candidates' way? >> again, i think senator warren's message is just one that resonates with most people, and black people are no exception.

and the more they hear her, the more they have an opportunity to be in her presence and hear what she intends to do for the country. people are drawn to that and they're impressed by it. they want to support it. i think quite honestly that's a good thing that black folks are listening. i can remember working very hard for then-senator obama back at the end of 2007 and 2018 when people thought he would not win south carolina, but he won huh-uh of south caroli-- 44 cou. she needs to bring her message directly to the people and she'll have a wonderful campaign. >> the ultimate goal for the democrats is defeat this sitting president, donald trump. why do you think elizabeth warren can defeat donald trump? >> she's tough. she's just stuftough, and peopl think with all the antics our

president engages is that no one has the stamina to stand up to him and challenge him for the benefit of the american people. and senator warren is doing that. she's showing she's not distracted by his antics. she's focused on her message and she's focused on making certain that that message reaches as many americans as possible. and i think that's why she's going to win and that's why she will easily beat president trump. >> do you think that the democrats, whether it be senator warren or whoever heads the ticket, can turn south carolina blue, something that has not happened in a very long time? >> oh, listen. that would be wonderful. i would hope so. we are certainly going to be working toward that end. we've got some good candidates up and down the ballot in south carolina. i can remember when south carolina was blue, so i don't think it becoming blue again is out of reach. we just have to get our voters out. >> state senator wendy brawly,

thank you for being with us. a quick note, this weekend black hollywood lost one of its great trail blazers, actress diane carroll who passed away friday after nearly 70 years breaking ground in theater, film, and in television. where she made history in 1968 as the first black woman to star in her own prime time show, the hit series "julia." in 1974 she became the fourth black actress nominated for a leading role oscar for claudine. in the '80s she rewrote tv rules again as dominique on the megahit "dynasty." i was one of many black children who grew up watching her constantly redefine what a black woman could be on screen.

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impeachment investigation is leading more and more americans to support the start of congressional proceedings, up to 46% this week. while almost all 2020 democratic candidates have called for impeachment in some shape or form, there is one notable exception, vice president joe biden, the target of trump's ire, has not given a full-throated call for impeachment, despite being the object of the ire of this president. my panel is back with democratic laurie watkins and republican, holly turner. let me go to you first, laurie. the impeachment proceedings, the inquiry, the move toward it, how will it impact the 2020 election in terms of the democratic primary? some are saying this is going to hurt the democrats and could backfire. others are saying that bringing out all these facts on president

trump, polls are showing people are beginning to raise serious questions about his abuse of power that has been alleged. >> so thanks, rev, i will say t is a marathon and not a sprint. so the house democrats have been very deliberate, very intentional, and i would say pretty disciplined in this process of moving through, doing their use diligence and making sure that they are uncovering all of the facts and evidence in order to move forward. i think that based on what will -- what will eventually happen, whether or not this president is impeached, will absolute have effects on the 2020 election, and it will absolutely have effects on who that democratic nominee and whether the american public feels that the parties stood behind them, stood -- or didn't stand behind them and stood behind america, and actually spoke truth to power about -- about going after this

president, his administration for all of the acts of corruption and all of the accounts of abuse of power that they have committed. >> holly, how do you feel this will affect the election going forward? are there great risks on both sides? and if so, what? >> yeah, reverend, it's been interesting to watch because democrats really are exposing themselves to there being nothing there. i'm surprised to see the democratic party follow down this path of destruction that adam schiff and jerry nadler and the squad have led them down. while it's benefited those individuals personally, it's raised their profile, in the tend's not been great for the democratic party. and it's not been great for nancy pelosi either. i'm not disappointed by that. it's been fun to watch. ultimately, i think this is not going to be good for them. they have boxed themselves in. this is the only thing that they've managed to talk about for the past 2.5 years. and how is impeachment helping americans get better access to

affordable health care? how is impeachment helping poor americans out of poverty? how is it helping americans better educate their children? it's just -- it's not benefiting americans. there's a very small group of very, very vocal people on the far left that are running this train right now. and it's not going to be good for democrats. >> let me ask you, holly, do you think if evidence comes forward as in whistle-blower has said and we're looking at a second whistle-blower and the president is impeached, how will he be the first american president to have to run for re-election impeached by the house, no matter what happens in the senate, how does he make that argument if there is evidence that is brought forward and he is, in fact, impeached? >> it's not interesting question. there is history in the making. if he is impeached, we don't know what's going to happen. we've never seen this happen before. what we know is that the democrats have been talking about so many reasons to impeach him over and over and over again that it somehow lost its power a

little bit. and i think for, to a great degree, americans have stopped listening. adam schiff is the boy who cried wolf. i think it's lost its punch. even if they succeed in finding something, which they won't, but if they did, i don't think it's really going to swing the voters all that much. >> what do you say to that, lori, because we heard president trump for years talk about the l clintons and clintons, talking about it three years after the election. i don't know that argument that two years, i mean, look how long this president went on birtherism and then on hilla hillary-gate. >> i don't think the american public at all, i disagree with holly. i don't think the american public at all is starting to tune out. in fact, rev, i think that they're starting to lean in. they are definitely paying attention to what is going on. this is not just messaging by a

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this past thursday, october 3rd, i reached another milestone in my life's journey. i was 65 years old. and we celebrated that night at the historic new york library. and hundreds of activists and family members that i had fought for and others joined as spike lee and robert de niro and samuel l. jackson joined senator chuck schumer and congressman jerry nadler and governor cuomo and mayor de blasio in celebrating some of my life's work. and it was heartening to me as we have many nights that we don't have to celebrate. and in the middle of it, we had a surprise video from former president barack obama that someone in the crowd taped and put on social media. but he stayed on message about

fighting for the right to vote and go forward. >> the truth is there's a reason everybody wants to bend his ear including me. he's been one of our country's most urgent voices for progress and justice. he knows that we achieve justice if we work toward it and forward. thank you for your lifetime of achievement and commitment for making this country better for all of us. happy birthday, my friend. here's to 50 more. >> that's one of the things that we will continue to fight for. many asked me now what are you going to do? i want to build a civil rights museum, i've been asked to stay at least another three years with national action network. all i can tell people is to paraphrase general douglas macarthur, i'm a freedom

fighter, a soldier in a fight in an army of justice. old soldiers never die or retire, we just fade away. and as you see, i lost a lot of weight, but i'm doing fine. i'm not fading no time soon. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern for a new live edition of "politics nation." up next, the ongoing impeachment coverage continues with my colleague, richard lui. hello, everyone, back at msnbc headquarters in new york. today, this hour for you, another one? new reporting about a second intel official considering whether to file a whistle-blower complaint over president trump's dealings with ukraine. that comes as the president unleashes on mitt romney after the senator criticized trump for calling on foreign nations to investigate joe biden. plus, genuinely horrified. that's how one former white house official described the way staffers reacted to some of