good evening and welcome to politicsnation. tonight's lead, winter is coming. a cold front of chilling news arrived at president trump's door step late this week. and the question today is, what is the white house going to do about it? in just the past 48 hours we learned that the president's acting director of homeland security resigned last night. he is just the latest of many defections from the trump white

house. a federal appeals court ruled that congress can seek eight years of the president's tax returns from his accounting firm. and a judge ruled that the president broke the law when he raided military funds to build his border wall. also, the president is shedding republican allies over his syria policy. the blowback from gop lawmakers after allowing turkey to attack our allies in northern syria is enough to warrant a response from secretary of state mike pompeo. this as the walls are closing in at the white house. a number of career civil servants are defying the administration orders not to cooperate with the house impeachment inquiry. just yesterday we heard from trump's former ambassador to ukraine, confirming the extent to which the president's

personal attorney rudolph guiliani's action in that country was rooted in baseless conspiracy theories. to top it all off, guiliani, himself, is reportedly under investigation by the southern district of new york. this just days after two of guiliani's associates accused of helping advance those same conspiracy theories were arrested. trump calls the investigation into guiliani a, quote, shameful act of the so-called state. is your head spinning from all these developments? well, so is mine. but what's worse, more testimony and more documents from other key witnesses in the house impeachment inquiry are expected throughout next week. is trump's defense starting to crack? joining me now a republican strategist and a former spee

speechwriter for president obama and former associate director of public engagement for the obama administration. let me thank both of you for being here. i know you are the republican on the panel tonight. >> sure. >> but the president has had every day one or two major salvos thrown his way. even his most loyal person has to start wondering what's going on here. >> yeah, i mean, there is a sense in washington that something is really changed. the ukrainian transcript, the transcript of that call, the whistle-blower. everything that followed afterward with rudy guiliani has people wondering is this the pivot point where we figure out that this president perhaps doesn't have our best interests in mind? that's what i'm kind of happy to see. but there has been a number of republicans acting in a way and i'm talking elected officials a the federal level, the way in which they're conducting

themselves in public you've got to wonder, what are they covering up for? why are they covering up? what i hear more and more is that it is trump doing things differently. that's where i think perhaps this was a pivot point but perhaps not the one we're looking for. the election is still far away. and i hear these republicans saying, okay. it's a concern. but what about biden and his corruption? what about obama and the deals he struck? what about obama in iran? all of these things obama did in the dark of night, trump is just doing them in daylight. so let's let trump be trump. >> obama come out in the driveway of the white house and say he wanted foreign governments to interfere with our elections and do research on his opposition? >> absolutely not. >> did obama start using profanity against his opponents? i mean, there are some things that obama was accused of. >> sure. >> none were proven. and obama never confirmed them with his own rhetoric. but you have donald trump as his

own witness against him in some of these things. obama never had a call with a guy like erdogan in turkey and changed foreign policy without talking to anyone in the pentagon or allies. and i think that, jesse, i keep hearing a lot of right-wingers comparing obama to trump and it is absolutely erroneous when you look at the fact this president has said a lot of this himself. >> well, if you try to picture this unfolding with barack obama as president, it is mind blowing. it's amazing to just think about how well republicans have got at compartmentalizing. we have basically a movie script unfolding at an airport in virginia where igor and lev are being picked up with one way tickets out of the country. they're one step removed from the president. >> one way tickets to vienna. >> right. they're headed out of the

country and they get picked up. imagine, just imagine what would happen on fox news or in the republican sphere if that was barack obama. i literally can't even imagine how bad that would have gotten. here it is barely bubbling up as something they're concerned about. >> well, rina, when you look at the fact that, and this is what is confusing to me, some republicans came out and took issue with what he did with syria, but won't take issue with what he's done in this country himself around foreign interference and around other matters that are before us. >> right. >> and making excuses saying the deep state is after rudy guiliani. i mean, what is more important to them seems to be, and i'm not saying one is more egregious than the other, but they seem very selective in what they're challenging this president on. >> i agree. this is not a partisan moment. i may have been somebody that

made my entire career in the republican party but when i saw donald trump come down that golden escalator, i've heard a great many other conservatives say around this country i was very concerned. i've always known him to be a self-serving person. i thought, this guy thinks the presidency is a dictatorship. he thinks he's going to be king. the interactions you have with some of these people that have been donating in politics, have used their money to influence politics and get more power, you know that they have one thing in mind. but what republicans did was say, we needed somebody completely different. he's not the messenger we wanted but he's the one we have. >> but the question is, what is the message? >> exactly. >> you may want a different messenger but do you want a message? for example you talk about nonpartisan, jesse, last night president trump had some not so presidential words about the impeachment inquiry. listen to this. >> the radical democrats' policies are crazy. their politicians are corrupt. their candidates are terrible. and they know they can't win an

election day so they're pursuing an illegal, invalid, and un-constitutional -- impeachment. >> you are at the state, jesse, where parents are concerned about their children watching the president on the news. several times this week he used the most profane language about what the investigation was, referring to former vice president biden saying he was a good vice president because he kissed president obama's "a." i mean we're not just talking about the opinion. we're talking about the language and the persona of the president, the head of the free world. >> well, at least he wasn't in a tan suit. i mean, that's one plus, when he did that. but the reality here is the presidency must remain respected both here and abroad.

the presidency is bigger than any one man. at the same time, this is beginning to paint a picture of the american presidency for little kids, people around the world, that makes them say, okay. this is no longer a country or leadership that should be respected or seen as role models. how far do we need to go down this rabbit hole to realize that we -- here's actually -- let me restate that. we elected him. we elected him. not me. but we as a country elected him. that is going to resonate for years and years and generations politically throughout the whole world. that is the saddest part of this. those moments, him looking dead in the camera using language like that and thinking that is what the american president sounds like, just underscores that. >> rina, the republicans have always said at least for the last few decades they are the conservatives, the family values

people. they are the ones that want to see americans have a higher standard in terms of values and morals. how do they embrace a man behaving like this in public? >> they don't. they push back with the same sentiment i shared earlier. we wouldn't do it this way but this is trump so let trump be trump. >> but they're with trump. >> they've compromised what is most important and it is the values that really hold this country together. i thought we were the pro democracy party. i thought we were the party that thumped the constitution every opportunity we got. this is a complete reversal. this is backpedal lg the party to a place where i don't even know my staying in the party as a change agent which i made a conscious decision to do after 2016 it is almost not worth it because the party has decided that the man is bigger than the mission. and the mission was really to talk about opportunity in a different way, how the republicans had ideas that could create opportunity for most all americans regardless of what the zip code was. how did we get back to that message when you have a guy

pulling pages from the dictator's playbook on a daily basis that has to have his language bleeped during a rally? as a mother of two very young children, i'm concerned that the party no longer stands for what it's telling me it stands for, so why should i support that party? and why do these elected leaders do it too? they want to self-serve. they want to come back and line their own pockets and be closer to the power. what is happening right now, what we saw this past week is it's going to be dangerous for them to be this close to that power. >> when did we change the definition of how we perceive and look at whistle-blowers, jesse? i mean, this is the party that went after benghazi and now all of a sudden a whistle-blower is a bad thing and somebody working for the deep state? >> well, i would be surprised, let me actually just say, please stay in the party. please stay in the party, rina. >> thank you, jesse. >> we need people to argue with who are not compartmentalizing and who we can talk about

straight up issues with. so please stay in that party. on the whistle-blowers i wouldn't be surprised if this opened up floodgates to more people who have been sitting on concerns. it is no secret there are people who have been concerned about this president's instincts and actions behind cloepsed doors. i hope this might be a moment where they say okay. so far the anonymity of the whistle-blowers has been kept pretty tight to say, i think my family can be safe in this moment and come out and say what i need to say. i mean, it is not an easy thing to up end your whole life as a civil servant to make your point but this might be the moment when more people start to take those notes out of the drawer they've been taking over the last couple years and making their case too. >> we'll have more with rina shah and jesse moore later in the show. the next democratic debate is three days away and it is the first since the house democrats launched this impeachment inquiry. how will the latest developments

figure into the candidates' strategy on stage? that's up ahead. but first, my colleague with other stories we're watching this hour. richard? thanks, rev. some stories we're watching there is a search and rescue mission under way in new orleans after the collapse of a hard rock hotel construction site. cell phone video right here capturing the terrifying moment, rattling buildings, sending people running for their lives. it happened just this morning. at least one person is dead and two missing. 18 others injured. authorities say there is grave concern tonight that the site could further collapse on itself. in new hampshire shots rang out during a church wedding this morning in the small town of pelham. two people are injured. no fatalities. a suspect is now in custody. police say the event appears to be a, quote, random event. out of control wildfires trigger an emergency declaration in southern california. earlier this week about 100,000 people were under evacuation orders. dozens of homes and other

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today 2020 presidential candidates are gearing up for the next democratic debate slated for tuesday. just as the impeachment inquiry into president trump continues to heat up. nearly three weeks into the inquiry, the npr poll shows a

slim majority, 52% of americans, support the investigation into the president's alleged abuse of power. meanwhile, in the race for the nomination, former vice president joe biden and senator elizabeth warren are duking it out for the top spot in the national polls while the leader is changing almost by the day. the recent poll has warren in the lead with 28% followed by biden with 25% and vermont senator bernie sanders with 14%. joining me now democratic congresswoman from massachusetts, a supporter of senator warren, and member of the house armed services committee. thank you for being with us tonight, congresswoman. >> thank you for having me. >> let me ask you, with all of this going on, with the impeachment inquiry in washington, and other issues

from syria to the arrest of guiliani's allies or associates, you can't name them all just this last week. what do you hope will happen in the debate? how do the candidates deal with all of these issues, or do they? >> yeah, i think that the candidates just need to keep presenting themselves in terms of what they're going to do on important issue areas. we have a broken healthcare system. we have a broken immigration system. the civility is at an all-time low. i think they all have to keep, you know, talking about their proposals for the future. they have to give an optimistic path forward. i think that is what the country is really yearning for at this particular moment is a leader. >> well, the fight is, who is going to be the one to be that leader in the democratic

primaries? now, we are a little less than 48 hours away from this debate. this will be the first debate that has occurred since the impeachment inquiry has started. since elizabeth warren is leading in some of the polls. will she be a target? since bernie sanders will come back after having a heart attack, since biden has been accused of all kinds of chicanery, his son, in terms of ukraine. how much of this concerns you that we'll see democrats turning on each other and taking shots at each other when there are so many things even inside the democratic tent that have occurred? >> i think the democrats are not going to fall for the president trying to distract the country from what is really at hand in

this impeachment inquiry. they're going to keep putting their case forward. look, i support elizabeth warren. i have from the very beginning. i was there for her launch back in february because she is interested in talking about real issues that confront real families -- middle class, working class families, people struggling underneath this income inequality gap. she puts those issues forward every time she's on the debate stage and while she is doing that, she is re-engineering the way a presidential campaign can be run by rejecting corporate contributions, lobbyist contributions, you know, for people like me who are just starting out and, you know, know how hard it is to raise money, she is showing that it can be done. you can be in the top three raising money, showing momentum, showing a surge in the polls, all the while you're speaking your truth and running a grass roots campaign. so i'm excited to see this

debate. i think it's going to continue in terms of talking in depth about issues that actually matter to people. >> well, elizabeth warren has done that throughout the campaign so far. but the question is, suppose she now, having a front-runner status or at least a cofront-runner status in some polls, how does she handle it if there is incoming fire? she's been the policy candidate. she's been impressive by anyone's standard to come from being marginalized to now leading in many polls. what happens if she comes under attack? she is not going to be able to just talk policy if someone aft. and in the preceding debates we've seen candidates go after each other on that stage. >> yes, look. i think if that happens you're going to find out who senator warren is. she is a fighter. she's got unbelievable persistance. i mean, she is tested in this

regard. you know, whether it's how she grew up, what she went through as a working mom, you know, to what she has had to encounter on the trail or from the president's attacks. i do not think that she is going to buckle if she comes under attack because she is a front-runner. i think that she's a woman who has an optimistic path forward. she's -- she really believes in the policies that she set forward. and, frankly, every single day she's building trust with voters across the country. >> how does she deal with the electability question? i'm hearing people all over the country say i'm beginning to warm up to her but i don't know if she can beat donald trump. isn't that a major concern among democratic voters that they want a nominee that they feel can beat donald trump? i'm talking about democratic

voters. >> yeah, look. i see the same rallies that you do. i haven't seen anything quite like this in my lifetime with 20,000, 22,000 people showing up to see her. it's because her story is relatable. it's because she is building trust with voters. she does bring her authentic and empathetic self to the stage, to the forums, to the meetings with community leaders every single time she shows up. and she hears people. so, you know, we're early in this campaign. i get it. i love this process. i think it's a great vetting process. but i think she is going to continue to surge as more and more people get to know her and hear what she's all about. >> congresswoman, lori trahan, thank you for coming tonight. coming up, one would think president trump has his hands full defending against all angles of impeachment inquiry. but he's done it again, finding

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president trump. you think that staring down the barrel of an impeachment investigation would decrease your opportunities for cruelty, mr. president, but i'll give credit where credit is due. you've always been an over achiever in that regard. this week your administration targeted the most vulnerable among us by proposing a new round of spending cuts for the food stamps program, trimming $4.5 billion over the next five years and if the cuts go through, nearly 8,000 households will lose benefits entirely. 500,000 children would lose access to free school meals. do you know that the food stamps program kept more than 3 million people out of poverty last year? meanwhile, here are some things i'm sure you don't know. president trump, the supplemental nutritional

assistance program is one of the most efficient and effective government programs. according to the food research and action center every dollar in s.n.a.p. benefits given expands the economy by nearly two times that amount. because hungry families eligible for those benefits spend them right away and they do it in their local communities. about 80% of s.n.a.p. authorized stores are small, locally owned businesses. if you can't bring yourself to care about the inherent cruelty of these cuts, or even the economic stupidity of this plan, maybe try a little self-interest. a lot of the food that is consumed by s.n.a.p. recipients is grown by the very midwestern farmers who trusted you with their votes. between this move and your disastrous trade war, maybe you'll rethink and they'll rethink supporting you in 2020.

maybe you're still stuck in racist reagan era welfare queen stereotypes about who gets federal assistance like food stamps because according to numbers from the department of agriculture, more than one-third of s.n.a.p. families, the largest group, are whites. oh, and over 95% of them are american citizens. i'm sure you like to think people on s.n.a.p. and other assistance as dead beats but you're the one who can't seem to pay your own bills. at least ten cities have reported unpaid security costs related to your rallies totaling nearly a million dollars. that's in addition to the hundreds of americans stiffed for work prior to your career in politics. there's a deadbeat in this conversation, mr. president, but it's not families on food stamps. it's you. be right back. nd swelling.

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>> children coming from canada or from eastern europe? >> i think things would be very different. his words, his actions, president trump has indicted himself by obstructing justice, refusing to comply with the congressional inquiry. he's already convicted himself. in full view of the world and the american people donald trump has violated his oath of office, betrayed this nation, and committed impeachable acts.

to preserve our constitution, our democracy, our basic integrity, he should be impeached. >> after another round of attacks on joe biden by president trump, the former vice president is now sharpening his rhetoric. this week officially calling for impeachment. biden went on to say at the event that the president is, quote, shooting holes in the constitution. meanwhile, president trump is digging in even deeper into his assault on biden's, a campaign e-mail out today reads in part, quote, together sleepy joe and his son, hunter, have lied to the american people and ripped off foreign companies for millions of dollars and yet they have the nerve to call for my impeachment. i did nothing wrong. end of quote. my panel is back with me, republican strategist rina shah and jesse moore former associate

director of public engagement during the obama administration. before we get into all of that, some breaking news, minutes ago the bernie sanders campaign announced the senator will be back on the trail in full force, holding an event next saturday on october 19th, in queens, new york. they're calling it the bernie's back rally. well, let me go to you, jesse. bernie sanders coming back, the debate this tuesday night where he and others will be there, all of this in the middle of the impeachment inquiry. how much in your judgment will the impeachment inquiry weigh into the democratic race for the nomination? >> i think -- i don't think it'll play a big role. bernie sanders is a machine and it's amazing that he is able to get back into the race, although i, you know, just as a democratic voter i do wish he could see the power or the role

he could play as a power broker and not necessarily as a candidate. i've thought that long before his health issues. but that being said, i just want him to be healthy. i think impeachment is going to play a big role, although i hope it doesn't take the entire conversation. you listen to the front-runner, vice president biden, and it's almost like a vortex that you get sucked into talking about impeachment, talking about how awful the president is. the reality is, democrats get behind movements and, you know, for better or worse. sometimes that's annoying for people who run these campaigns but they get behind movements, they get behind people that inspire them. we tend to lose when we play it safe and when we have candidates we feel like a safe option from gore to kerry to secretary clinton, movement candidates and people who are inspiring are the ones that tend to get the furthest. >> rina, the senate races, many

republicans are up, some in very vulnerable states. how will the impeachment inquiry affect the senate races and the presidential race as you see it? >> well, i think of one response i saw this past week from senator cory gardner and how he sort of fielded questions from journalists in the wake of more allegations coming forward about rudy guiliani and this impeachment inquiry. and then syria. let's not forget this is making the senators' jobs very difficult. no matter what's happening, whether the legislative branch, the executive branch, there is a moment right now where people need to stand up and call a spade a spade. and many of them are not able to do that. that's what i saw senator gardner running from. he is somebody i really liked and have watched his career trajectory and i'm not sure how much longer these guys can play it safe. >> president trump had a conversation with erdogan the

president of turkey on the phone, changed the policies, said he was going to invite him to the white house. >> right. >> then they start air strikes on syria. how do you explain that if you're a republican senator and stay with this president? >> what you don't do is explain. i think that's the message that they're essentially delivering to america is we're not going to explain this. we're going to try to do exactly what trump is doing, point you here, point you there, and everywhere and then say the free press, you people, journalists are against us. this is what is most troubling. i say to myself again as i said earlier in the show, republicans are supposed to be the constitution loving party and here they are attacking a free press saying, you just want to take down this president. they deflect, divert, and won't answer the question. they won't connect the dots. that is a crisis and frankly a crisis in leadership but lack of moral courage as well. >> jesse, you were in the white house under president obama and

a speechwriter. how do you deal with the almost daily developments around impeachment inquiry and other scandals in the trump administration and put out your policies that you're not just running against trump but that you are the leader that you referred to? how do you thread that needle? you have written speeches. how do you do that with a candidate? >> it's tricky. you know, the reality is you need to stay judicious and sober and relentless in pursuing the truth and pursuing impeachment. that's a must. but you also have to look at the american people and recognize that that's happening. that's unfolding. that's not going anywhere. people are getting, already getting tired of hearing -- you know, political junkies like us, yeah. we're checking twitter, jum mg mg -- jumping on the news every morning eager to hear what new development is happening but folks in wisconsin and michigan

and pennsylvania are like, i know this is cliche' but they're like, yo, my premiums just went up again. and they want to hear somebody look them in the eye and say, okay. >> they're looking for leadership. >> that's right. >> and the key is how do you project leadership and not just look like one that is full of negative attacks on who is the present president? >> that's right. >> who can emerge from this field and say i am the one that can lead us out of this mess not just analyze the mess we're in. jesse? >> well, i think vice president biden is actually -- i think he's got room to run in this space because he has been -- when he launched his campaign it was very focused on president trump and, obviously, that drum keeps getting banged and keeps -- the president keeps giving him reasons to bang that drum. elizabeth warren is kind of emerging as a movement candidate. i think that's why she is getting so much momentum is because people feel like they're

part of something and she's tailoring a very -- a message that i like, a very leftist message, but tailoring it in a way that can connect with working class folks in the middle of the country. kamala harris i think is being under estimated in a big way. she is tough and she gets a lot of credit for that because we see her in the senate being tough, looking like a prosecutor. but she's more. she is brilliant. i think she has another move left in her. >> let me ask you, rina, who are the republicans afraid of most among the democratic field of candidates? who do you think they would most not want to see run against them next november? >> well, for the conservatives who love trump it certainly is joe biden. it still is no matter what's going on with the ukrainian corruption scandal, whatever we want to call it today, i think the reality is that joe biden poses the greatest threat. who the republicans are not scared of is elizabeth warren

and that actually saddens me because here's the thing, rev. i was on capitol hill, part of this group of republicans coming up, being told, being taught that elizabeth warren is this leftist, crazy person. you cannot like her. she's unpalatable especially in the executive office. what's happened now is, i like a woman with a plan. i like anyone with a plan. and she has emerged. not to take issue with you, jesse, but i don't think she is kind of emerging. i think she has emerged and she is showing that the party is serious about plans. but what's happening there is that that's a lay-up for the republicans. they point to elizabeth warren and say look how leftist that is, look how socialist that is. you can't elect that so good for us again. give us another four years to get this right. >> well, rina shah and jesse moore, i have to leave it there. thank you both. up next a recent study shows suicide rates among black youth this century is rapidly on the

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on the heels of recognizing world mental health day this week we want to shine a light on the crisis within the black community. suicide rates among black youth are skyrocketing. according to the journal of community health, the suicide rate among adolescent african-american boys ages 13 to 19 rose by 60%. for black adolescent girls from ages 13 to 19 the numbers are even more dire with rates increasing by 182%. from 2001 to 2017. for more on this health crisis i'm joined now by the new jersey congresswoman and house homeland security committee member, bonnie watson coleman.

congresswoman, thank you for being here. >> thank you for raising this issue today. >> it's a critical issue that you raised. why do you think we're seeing this increase? what is the thing that is accelerating this? >> well, that in general we're living in some tough times. we're living in mean times. and the wealth gap is just getting huge, and poverty is -- is just more intransient. and i think our children are being treated badly. i think that they're experiencing discrimination in a way that's more overt than it's been in quite a while. i think that our children are being bullied. i think if you're black or lgbtq, you've got a double whammy going at you. you know, some of the startling things you mentioned, those two age categories, but we've got children, 5 to 12 years old, committing suicide. >> wow. >> what could they possibly be thinking? >> wow. and -- when we look at males,

60% up from 2001 to 2017. and it is not -- other than you a national crisis. if this was not in the black community, imagine if these were in the white community. it would be on everybody's table, door -- >> it would be treated like the opioid crisis is being treated now versus the war on drugs. >> now, we should note that black male children ages 5 to 12 have higher suicide rates than any other racial or ethnic group, according to new york university's mcsilver institute on poverty policy and research. what do we need to start doing to really grab this and turn it around? >> i started seeing this on facebook and said to my staff, this is awful. there's too much happening here. we need to get a handle on this. we need to at least raise the issue. talked with karen bass, chair of the cdc, and we put together the

emergency task force to look into this issue. we've got a whole working group with dr. michael lindsay and educators, all kind of academics, doctors, all kind of people, social justice workers. we've been holding a series of hearings. we're going to have a hearing coming up next week with young -- young people, young boys and young girls. we're trying to get a handle on a couple of things. number one is what do we need to be looking for because there are parents telling there were no signs. they went into their child's bedroom and the child was hanging -- >> no signs? wow. >> no signs. we're trying to talk about generational trauma, generational discrimination, a sense of low value. no access to health care. very low access to health care. we look at each the role of -- even the role of the churches nymph we've gro -- you've got jesus, you don't need anything else, talk it up.

talk to tongues, and don't take your medication because it makes it worse. we have a stigma in the black community when it comes to dealing with mental health. >> it is a mental health issue. >> it is a mental health issue. >> i tell people, i had a problem with my knee. i need a new one, i went to an orthopedist. if you have a mental health issue, it's in the brain. you need to have someone talking to you and helping you to find coping skills and helping you to realize how you can live a valuable life. and we just don't have enough of that. and then on top of everything else, we don't have enough culturally competent people working in that space. i'm on the appropriations committee, as well as homeland security. and i look at this very much from what i'm going to fight for when we start talking about disbursing resources. we need more research. we need more understanding of what's going on. we need to have resources out there for schools to have people who can see signs early, who are

trained in the -- you have a health kit, you know, what is it, the -- the health kit that you have, where you've got a me mental health kit, as well, that teaches you to look for certain things. we need talk to our parents. it's a very complex issue. it's a very important issue. and i'm grateful for taraji p. henson who came in and shared with us her struggles. >> she was very effective. i couldn't of thought of a better advocate to bring this in. we'll follow it through because i know you're a very consistent work in many areas, new jersey congresswoman bonnie watson-coleman. thank you for being with me tonight. >> thank you for having me and for raising this issue. next, my final thoughts. stay with us. ughts. stay wh itus

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this week a white florida man was sentenced to 20 years in prison for killing in 2018 an unarmed black man, marquise mcglockton. the perp, michael ddredka, was con convicted of manslaughter in august. i remember in 2018 when we went and rallied in florida, in clearwater, saying that this man should be arrested and should be tried and let a jury decide. and they would not even arrest him at that point. he was later arrested because that community kept fighting and

kept saying that every life matters, and this unarmed man should not be dead. and he was finally convicted at trial by a jury once the evidence was there. you don't win every battle, but you do not judge what you do based on winning or losing. you judge it based on what you feel is right or wrong. and everyone should have the same right in a judicial system to raise the issues and let a jury decide what is right and what is wrong. yes, dr. martin luther king said once that many times he would wonder if he went into a situation what would happen to him. and then he would come to the conclusion if i don't go, what would happen to them. we all should live by that and stand up for what's right and let the results be on others but never let it be said you didn't stand up for what was right. that does it for me today. thanks for watching.

i'll see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern. up next, msnbc's impeachment coverage continues with my colleague, richard lui. hello, everyone, i'm richard lui at msnbc headquarters in new york city. thanks for spending your day with us today. the impeachment inquiry today reaches day 19. perhaps only president trump knows whether he is working with rudy giuliani this hour and just how closely. testing the relationship? whether giuliani broke any lobbying laws with ukraine. right now, federal prosecutors are investigating that. former ambassador to ukraine might know a thing or two about that very issue. we're digging into what she said in public and in private testimony. are there any smoking guns there? and the days ahead, it's going to be a gangbuster lineup right there for headlining witnesses on capitol hill. the democrats' impeachment inquiry picks up yet more