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republicans even if they weren't explicit about the clause. you heard francis rooney questioning the language from thursday. he is the south florida congressman who announced that he would be resigning yesterday. the concerns on the republican ii. side were more sporadic. the news continues right democrats clearly seized upon now. >> thank you so much. this and indicated that tha hello to all of you. ididn't think it would stand and good afternoon. would continue to hit on the i'm richard lui. president. thanks for staying with us this i have to caution whenever people say this was the hour. first up, president trump reverses on hosting the g-7 proximate cause for president trump to make a decision, you summit at his doral resort near have to be very certain on your miami after a wave of bipartisan reasoning because often times the president just gets a feel for things. back lash two days after the he has been talking to certain announcement. he blamed democrats and the friends. it's always difficult to figure media. what caused the reversal? out who his circle of advisers unrest in syria. are. all we really know is sometime the situation at the turkey after 9:00 p.m. last night, the syria border changes by the president decided to reverse hour. and for now, the trump course and then made it a lot administration says the cease easier for headline writers to fire is still holding. we're live on the ground. do nothing but golf puns.
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plus this week marks one month >> joyce, talk about the since the impeachment inquiry emoluments clause and doral. began. what's to come as congress has >> the emoluments clause would its hands full with a big slate of highly anticipated testimony have been an obvious hold take all this week. we're going to start this hour oath to try to do okay with the with president trump. he starts a new week on defense. law, or avoid a growing number of republicans find it more difficult to defend explicitly violating. they are supposed to take care the president in his impeachment to make sure that our inquiry. sure from republicans has constitution and our laws are forced the president to publicly faithfully executed. back track on three major so for a president to do controversial decisions all said something so blatantly as of this sunday, first vialilative of the foreign dissolving plans for dural to be emoluments clause which says you can't accept payments from the sight of the upcoming foreign sources i think was a nonstarter. the fact that they sent mulvaney gathering. second, there are claims that the decision is fuelled by out to make the announcement desire to bring u.s. troops rather than the president doing it himself is like waving a big home, troops who will be ordered to head to iraq instead to fight red flag that they knew that they might be in trouble. isis and then back filling on this president has general been policy in syria. and then the third. disrespectful of the law and the fallout from his own chief acted as though laws don't apply of staff mick mulvaney who to him. earlier this week, shredded the what he's facing now is a
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president's defense over a quid perfect storm. pro quo with ukraine, this in maybe he would have gotten away with this. exchange for an investigation of with the walls closing in with ukraine and problems in turkey democrats. and today mulvaney tried to and then with this sort of further walk back remarks during an appearance this morning. take a listen. blatest disregard for a statute where there are multiple court >> what should put this issue to cases alleging different facets bed is that the money flow, the aid flowed. once we were able to satisfy of emoluments clause violations, it was a bridge too far finally. ourselves that corruption was -- they were doing better with it, there was not a quid pro quo. >> are you seeing from the white house the walls closing in? >> you were asked by jonathan is that the sense that this administration might be feeling karl. >> and reporters will use their language all the time. right now? >> i'm sort of along the same my language never said quid pro line of thinking of hans on quo. >> i want to welcome my panel. this. i'm reluctant to say the walls are closing in. i'm reluctant to say that the joyce vance, former u.s. president has experienced some attorney and msnbc contributor. sort of shift. i think this is one more jeff mason, white house controversy that he has now correspondent for reuters and addressed by pulling back that he created himself or the white hans nickels. tell us more about this reversal house created on friday that he on dural and how this all fits is trying to pull back from. clearly, he is facing a lot of into the puzzle piece i was mentioning. republican criticism not only >> what was remarkable about the about the g-7 but syria and comment from mick mulvaney this
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turkey decision. morning is that he seemed to that comes at a rough time for him when facing the impeachment acknowledge that it was inquiry. criticism that forced the president to rethink this. the walls are around the president for sure. normally with president trump outside criticism only emboldins i just think it's a fool's errand to say when it's actually him. mick mulvaney saying criticism clear that the walls are closing in. >> how did the president's had effect. lieutenants do today as they were out in front of the sunday shows trying to defend the decisions that this and now it's up to the president administration has made so far? to try to find a place that's i'mof state as well as mick suitable. it's clear the president wanted mulvaney as we were talking it to be at dural. about. >> they are put in a difficult position because they're trying he hinted about it talking about to reconcile statements that don't seem to be easily how great his resort was. i think we have some sound here reconciled. for you to listen to just how he mick mulvaney was saying -- there is tape of him saying i couched this entire enterprise. said three reasons. those are pretty easy to >> i flinched a little bit because that's what people are juxtapose. i didn't use the words quid pro saying that i said. here is what i said. i'll say it again and hopefully people will listen this time. quo. if you go out and say i was there are two reasons that we going 70 miles per hour in a 55 held up the aid. the first one was the rampant miles per hour zone, the facts that he outlined at that corruption in ukraine. the president was also concerned briefing on thursday add up to a
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about whether or not other quid pro quo. now he's saying that is a nations specifically european nations were helping with foreign aid to the ukraine. misinterpretation. all he has done to this point is i did mention that in the past muddy the waters. the president had mentioned maybe that's enough. about the dnc server. what you need to have is he even mentioned it to somebody to hang on to say he president zelensky in the phone misspoke or was misinterpreted call, but it wasn't connected to by the fake news media. the aid. i don't know that that will >> that was mulvaney on the solve the issue. that has emboldened democrats to ukraine side of the equation. on dural he is saying because of move forward and caused trouble among republicans. the outside criticism they are >> he did not say no when asked taking it back and decided to reverse course and look for that question. my thanks. another location. we'll talk to you a little bit >> let's go to jeff mason. later this hour. appreciate your time. he was responding to the issue the latest on the tense situation in syria as we were of ukraine and aid. and he said there were two just discussing. the cease fire holds. that's what we're told for now. reasons but chris wallace said that's what we're told for now. you said there were three truecar is great for finding new cars. reasons and the third reason was the very involvement of a justice department investigation. and then he tried to defend that. you were there when he was actually saying these statements that there were three reasons. >> yeah. he was very clear on friday. he has been in the process of
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trying to walk it back ever since. he released a statement friday evening saying that that's not what he had meant accusing the media of misconstruing the words even though he said them on camera and live television. he is trying to walk it back further. obviously, there is some pressure on mick mulvaney right now. you can sort of see him feeling under pressure during that interview because what he said was completely out of line with what the president and his advisers have been saying about the ukraine involvement and what he wanted to do in terms of pushing ukraine and that connection to the military aid. so he had an impact last week by saying that. he's trying to reverse that impact now. >> peter, he was also asked in that interview on fox news sunday was resignation ever discussed? he said no, but there has been reporting that there was some outreach, some discussion about a potential replacement for him. you're smart, you already knew that.
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a camera might figure it out. those two days and what this that was easy! glad i could help. same acting chief of staff said at xfinity, we're here to make life simple. easy. awesome. so come ask, shop, discover at your xfinity store today. differently? >> this will be a pretty familiar dilemma for chairman schiff who is used to dealing with witnesses. how do you reckon style statements made by a witness who says one thing one day and something different the next day. schiff will try to do that in two ways. one is by talking with other witnesses and seeing what they have to say about how this situation evolved and what the truth was. we have a strong indication, quite frankly, that aid was withheld in exchange for political favors or that that attempt was made until it became public. schiff will have that available. he will also look at the breaking news out of statements just on their face. you have that first statement georgia. three soldiers were killed and candid, informal, responding to three more hospitalized after a training accident. this took place at fort stewart questions, what prosecutors would call a statement made hunter army airfield roughly 40
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against interest by a witness, miles west of savannah, georgia. someone who appears to be telling the truth in the moment. officials say the soldiers were then you have the very killed when the fighting vehicle that they were in was involved carryfully written walk balk, in an accident. something carefully formatted that accident is under where words are chosen and investigation and the names of released in writing with this the victims not yet released. we'll get you updates here. big presentation. the word is a cease fire is of course, you don't have to be the head of a congressional holding between turkey and kurdish forces right now at committee to know which of the statements looks more believable. >> you were talking about how least according to the president who quoted secretary of defense in a tweet just hours ago. mick mulvaney was outlining he made an unannounced trip to afghanistan today. regarding democratic political pressure. he told reporters traveling with was there also any discussion, him that u.s. troops being any word on the ground in terms withdrawn from northern syria will be headed for iraq. of tone around the emoluments nbc news chief foreign correspondent has more. clause here. if it was selected and money goin >> now the defense secretary saying u.s. troops will be leaving from here in northern seyria and going to iraq to continue the fight against isis. what they could be leaving behind here in syria is a
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certain disaster fr kurds. briefing reporters, defense secretary said there is a plan for the some 1,000 u.s. troops in syria. they'll keep fighting isis. >> what does the next phase of the counter isis campaign look like? and i know that's been a top concern of mine, second only to protection of forces coming out of syria. the u.s. withdrawal continues a pace from northeast syria. we're talking weeks, not days. >> this morning secretary of state mike pompeo defended the 120 hour cease fire that he helped to negotiate against criticism that turkey, they got exactly what they wanted as part of the agreement and the kurds got the trade. >> we put out a joint statement which we think will stabilize the work so far. there is much work to be done to continue to implement it.
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it was a hard fought -- it lasted hours while we were there. we achieved the outcome that president trump sent us to achieve. >> critics include house speaker nancy pelosi. she is currently in the middle east leading a group of bipartisan lawmakers in jordan to discuss the deepening crisis in syria. joining us now matt bradley who is on the ground in iraq. we also have former u.s. ambassador to the union and dean at george washington university. i want to start with you, matt. you heard the reporting that we had. is that the latest? i was just reading the latest wire saying that the kurds by the border, syrian kurds have said they have completely evacuated the border area. that is going to be a safe zone according to what turkey is saying. >> reporter: i'm hearing that the kurds said they have
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evacuated the city right there on the border. i think that they are in the process of evacuating. that is a major zone. this is about 300 miles long, 20 miles deep. one of the really big disagreements that will cause a collision on tuesday when the 120 hours long cease fire expires is that there is kind of a misunderstanding. he is the commander in chief of the syrian democratic forces. that's the mostly kurdish forszs that was with the u.s. and really fighting against isis for so many years partly on america's behalf. he said that his understanding of the cease fire as far as it was laid out between the u.s. and the turks was that they were going to be evacuating and moving troops from the area. that's a much smaller zone than what president of turkey laid out. when the misunderstanding
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finally comes into play and it will come up in about two days, there is going to be a real interesting collision in terms of interest. do the kurds want to evacuate that area? which is a major slice of what is sort of syrian -- among the syrian kurds. there is a bismisunderstanding. so far it has been ignored and brushed over. it's going to cause real fireworks. >> ambassador, you're hearing the latest reporting on the ground there. we hear what the administration is saying through secretary of state pompeo. richard engel also on the ground. the overall take away is that the administration is saying that it is worki gworking. from the data that you have, is it working? >> first of all, i think it's fair to say that the abandonment of the kurds will go down as one of the greatest betrayals of a battlefield ally in american
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history. and that is why it has elicited such profound and widespread condemnation on a bipartisan basis as well as quite frankly even off the record from a number of american troops on the ground there. it's clear that both kurdish forces as well as turkish military are not in widespread direct contact based on the reports that we have although there are reports of skirmishes. when this 120-hour pause is over on tuesday, it is clear that the turkish forces will do their very best to execute the plan that president wants which is to create as wide a buffer zone as possible between the border of turkey and further inside syria. thus the ground is set for a much more challenging chapter just in the matter of days. >> ambassador, you have heard
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some of the superlutivs. it's taken generations to build the trust. help us understand for those that don't understand the middle east well, what is the precedent that we might look at in our history that would help us understand what is happening now, ambassador? >> i certainly can't think of a precedent in terms of the way in which the united states has abandoned an ally. and therefore common allies from afghanistan to north africa, even parts of latin america are asking and are quite frankly more established alliances in southeast asia and europe are going to be asking, can the word of the united states be trusted? as one admiral told me many years ago, diplomacy trust is the coin of the realm. and you cannot surge trust.
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you have to build it before you need it. once it is broken, it can take years if ever before it is fundamentally replaced. >> matt bradley, it was more than the united states on the ground there. there were other allies. and that idea of trust and the idea of our word is our bond. how have our allies reacted to the united states move that was seen as being quite sudden even in the united states, even in this current administration? >> you know, before all this happened, richard, president trump had already made a name for himself for cozying up to authoritarian figures. he made friends with the president of the egypt. he was very close withenjamin netanyahu who you might not consider an authoritarian figure but presided over israel for a very long time and has a strong hand on the politics there. presidents and leaders
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throughout the entire region, some of them who have records that aren't so good and president trump had again made good relationships with. they're now also wondering whether the president, whether this administration is going to abandon them when things get tough. and that might be saying the united states should be kind of rolling back its association of some of these unsaverry figures and maybe shouldn't have such a strong influence in the middle east. a lot of people say america's time has come and should roll back influence and let someone else like russia take this poison challais. whether you like it or not, that's what you're seeing happening, the russians, the turks are going to be not just determining the fate of the kurds but also of syria and a lot of other actors and nations in the region. the united states is really addicating its role. >> ambassador, as we see the leaders of turkey and russia
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gather and the discription has been they're going to sit in a room and divide up the territory, is that the way you see it? >> that's exactly what's going to happen. i should say there is no scenario in which the abandonment of american leadership is in some ways supportive of american tropical storms. they actually devised a very strong strategy in which we partnered with forces on the ground to go after our joint ally in ways that came quite frankly out of low cost to the united states. so with the precipitous withdrawal without consulting the president offense own military and political leadership let alone consulting our allize on the ground, it has driven the state into the fundamental credibility of the united states and will absolutely invite both the turks and the russians to be the arbiters in this war, in this
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particular conflict which can have implications going forward in the months ahead. >> how will they divide up this territory? and how might the different scenarios affect the united states? >> let's be clear. turkey and syria are under the regime of bashar al assad are not allies. so what turkish president is essentially talking about is taking some 20 miles deep and the 300 plus mile swath of territory, just imagine if the mexicans or the canadians decided they were going to take some massive portion of u.s. territory and were to prevent drug smuggling into respective countries. the only reason that the syrians are allowing this is they are not able to stop it. the syrians are allied with the russians and also with iran. and so there is not going to be
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ainterests are not aligned. potentially a shooting war between turkey who is a n.a.t.o. ally and syrian forces backed by russian colleagues or some other quid pro quo as it were between the syrians and the russians to come up with some level of syrians and turks with russian backing to come up with some level of mote s between the two. >> isis and iran, where might that go? and can another administration or this administration decide to shift? can it be fixed? and how long? >> we already know that isis has seen this precipitous withdrawal as a great victory. we know they are calling on sleeper cells to be able to come back to the battlefield. you will certainly see some of the freed isis operatives that
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are held by the kurds reemerge perhaps in europe or africa. most definitely as a direct result of this decision. and as a result of the very hard work that had been done over years to bottle up this enemy of the united states in our western world will at best have to be started again certainly as it retlats othe destruction of the caliphate and the weakened ability to do us harm. >> thank you so much. a late eve frning for us in ira thank you both. coming up next, it's a busy week on capitol hill with a full slate of depositions in the impeachment inquiry. we're going to tell you who is going to be showing up, why you should watch on this week ahead. should watch on this weeahk ead. as a struggling actor,
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capitol hill is set for a busy week of testimony. on tap key figures as democrats push ahead with their impeachment inquiry into alleged abuses of power by president
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trump. seven depositions are scheduled for the week. bill taylor, that is tuesday. philip reeker, acting u.s. secretary on wednesday. there are more as you can see. we'll get to them. our guest this hour, joyce vance, msnbc contributor back with us again. kimberly atkins. david jolly, former republican congressman from florida who has left the g.o.p. and back with us peter baker for the "new york times" and msnbc political analyst. joyce, you've got seven to pick from here. who are you watching for, if you will, the often said treasure-trove that might come out of the testimony that we won't necessarily be able to hear ourselves personally. >> you know, we won't hear it personally. that's i think in some ways a little bit tough for us, but it's really a positive. and it's also my answer to the question which is that i'm not
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looking to any one of these people in particular to be some sort of smoking gun or cap stone witness. i think it's the notion that there is now a process that's moving forward. it's important to remember that in past situations like this in prior impeachments, congress hasn't had to act as its own investigative agency. it's had either d.o.j. or special council doing the fact finding. that's the part that usually occurs in secret so that congress can hold hearings. this week we're seeing congress digging in, congress being the fact finder, congress in essence running a process that proxs a grand jury by taking testimony from these witnesses, learning what evidence is available and then one would think at some point moving forward with public proceedings. it's sort of an all of the above answer. >> we all have to be there and have to be following that which
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will be reported. one of those individuals will be kimberly atkins. the criticism from the right has been why haven't the transcripts been released faster? why don't we have access of what is said during the depositions, these testimonies? it's an easy answer for that. when we have this sort of procedure there is either a d.o.j. or special investigator, special counsel doing it and during those investigations thereerant a release of transcripts. that's not how it works. there was not an instant release every time there was an interview conducted. and the house is sort of acting in replacement of that which they have the ability to do. and then at some point fairly soon there will be some public hearings where we will be able to see folks responding in real time. so that's not unusual although i know that that is not -- that
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that is a criticism of the proceedings. but it's still very important things going on. i am looking to the testimony of bill taylor who you mentioned the acting ukrainian ambassador because he is at the center of those very explosive text messages that we saw where he said it was crazy to with hold aid to the ukraine for political purpose. he clearly is at the center of this discussion that he was having with gordon sondland at the time. gordon sondland was talking to the president. there are going to be some filling in of a lot of questions by ambassador taylor during these depositions. joyce is right, all of this is important. it seems as if the house is leaving no stone unturned in this investigation. and with impeachment hearings scheduled to potentially happen before the end of the year, this seems to be moving fairly quickly. >> which we will get to just
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shortly. david jolly, putting on your old hat and thinking of your colleagues in congress here, last week says a lot about what they might be doing this coming week and what they think about what's coming this week. just some of the revelations that all of us have been following. we have fiona hill saying that bolten objected to the ukraine drug deal, his words. he called giuliani a hand grenade. we had gordon sondland, the u.s. ambassador to the eu saying that president trump directed giuliani to push the ukraine scheme overall. that might be instructive of what they heard this past week and then what they're looking at in this coming week. what have you heard? >> well, it is why you see only the most aggressive defenders of the president actually engaging in any type of defense. and when they do, it's arguments of process. why aren't we seeing the transcripts? why isn't it in public?
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there is little to no defense of the president's actions, but from kind of the crazies on capitol hill, if you will. the others are remaining fairly silent in the house and particularly in the senate. and the reason why, richard, is they know that the president has confessed to behavior that could constitute a single article of impeachment and that being the president of the united states abusing his office to ask for an investigation int bidens. there is no quid pro quo required for an e article. and nobody can defend the would typically look to for a valid or secretary of state mike pompeo. they can't answer the questions either. you see fear growing among senate republicans because they know the president's behavior is indefensib indefensible. the procedural arguments will only go so far.
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ultimately, senators will have to cast judgment based on the substance of the president's behavior. >> as we look at some of the republican senators, that might be ones to watch. peter baker, there is some 12 or 13 senators that are republicans that might be -- there might be cracks is the word that has been used as of this weekend. then crow have mitch mcconnell having his impeachment briefing, the trial briefing that he had for his caucus saying this is what we can expect. he was saying the house might most likely will have a vote by thanksgiving potentially. that's what the report is. and that therefore they might have a trial that he would like to end before christmas. >> senator mcconnell certainly knows more about this than most people. i have to say it seems hard to believe that they can wrap this up by thanksgiving given what we were talking about all the
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interviews at pace. i think it's something that the public wants to see. the public wants to make a judgment as to whether the evidence adds up to anything. at some point they have to have public hearings. how are they going to continue to interview all the people they want to interview and produce a public hearing schedule and have all that done by thanksgiving. there is an urgency on the part of the democrats. they do want to wrap this up at least by the end of the year. they don't want to sort of trace over into the election year. they would like to act while the iron is hot. it's a political dynamic as much as it is anything else. i think that we're looking at a very fast process however you measure it. we possibly have a trial if not by the end of this year. >> david jolly, you may have seen names out there. who are you watching? >> i think mitt romney is clearly the bellwether. you can also look at some of the retiring senators, as well. i think what this is going to
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come down to, though, is if you look back at a seminal moment, it is the release of the summary phone call. a lot of witnesses are kwaub rating witnesses, but we have the president confessing to it. you look at ben sass, susan collins. i know a lot of people put faith in her in the past. the question is if mitt romney moves, do others move with him, or does mitt romney become the martyr that absorbs all the fire from the right? i think what the house sends over and schiff and pelosi are smart in building witnesses around what is already a confession from the president in the summary, republican senators have a hard time looking away. the facts run too hard against the president. kimberly atkins, the white house meeting with speaker pelosi might reflect where we are when it comes to emotion.
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>> yes. it definitely does. i think you have democrats that are very singularly focussed on this. you have a president pushing against it looking to discredit them and fire back at pelosi in a way that doesn't seem to be landing. she is the master of creating memes. she's not the first time she's done it. it angered the president and hit a nerve. this will be an explosive proceeding moving forward. >> great conversation. i want to thank our panel. go out and enjoy the rest of your sunday. thank you so much. coming up, the latest on the 2020 race as the two front runners hit the campaign trail. stick around. runners hit the campaign trail. stick around.
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now to the race for the white house. yeah, it is still going. a warm welcome to the former vice president here in new york city and senator elizabeth warren was capitalizing on her new frontrunner status in the heartland. we have team coverage with shaquille brewster and josh letter man. we'll start with you, shaq, you were with vice president biden. good energy is what you were saying. >> that's right. he had really good energy. he was speaking to the uft just across the street here.
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it is a big teachers' union and he got really personal talking about his wife, dr. jill biden, she is a community college professor. but he also talked about his experiences with teachers when he was in law school for example, he took time out to substitute teach for a bit and that taught him the struggles of teaching and he kind of represented to the crowd that way. he also expressed support for the chicago teachers' union. they are about to enter day five of that strike going on. he expressed support for them but also said teachers want to be in the classroom bei, they d want to be doing this, but he said that teachers have had to fight for their rights for several decades. >> and josh, how have today's headlines and of course you have been watching us of course nonstop here, how has that been resonating with -- pete buttigieg was out and asked this, how is it reading where you are at? >> reporter: yeah, pete
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buttigieg and amy klobuchar were both on the sunday shows this morning going after elizabeth warren pretty hard on the fact that she hasn't released details on how she will pay for her health care plan. she is finally trying to move forward on that saying today that within the next few weeks she will be releasing new details on how she will pay for medicare for all. but this is something that has been dogging her campaign for weeks now, it was a big issue in the debate. and judging based on the reception here, not something that will go away anytime soon. >> and another beat that you know quite well is bernie sanders. and how is he doing? that is what those who are concerned about his health and even those critical of him as a candidate, they want to thoukno. >> yesterday he had a massive rally, his campaign says about 26,000 people showed up for a bernie is back rally. and it looked like he had a pep this his step.laughing, he was .
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he got the endorsement of michael moore and then alexandria ocasio-cortez endorsed him, had really strong words for him. he is now back on the trail and that is what the campaign is trying to show, this is a candidate who led in the cash on hand, he is leading in fund raising numbers and now that he is back on the trail, he will be going to iowa and south carolina, he is back and he wants to be a force in this race. >> how is warren reacting to the frontrunner status potential here? now she is right in front. has she bounced back after what some said her debate performance was maybe middling compared to the past? >> yeah, that's right. and this was the first time that she was on the debate stage as the frontrunner either thefront runner or one of the frontrunner depending on which poll that you look at. and it has been a little shaky
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so far, her performance. but she is trying to focus on trying to do all the things that she was doing up until this point, building out her ground game, working on that field operation, trying to line up as much now as possible that she can turn out voters to the caucuses, to the early primaries, not get too lost in the headlines and the attacks coming from her other rivals. >> shaq, as you were with biden today and as well bernie sanders on other days, the fundraising numbers for the biden camp certainly not good numbers compared to what they have done historically. >> that's right. >> is he punching up more towards trump or punching down now that he sees competition? >> a bit of both. this is a campaign that really likes being in the position of taking the fight to president trump. you see those fund raising numbers there. bernie sanders leading the pack, elizabeth warren right behind him. but then vice president biden right there at 15 ml$15 million.
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clo he ecloser to candidates lie yang. he was asked do you have enough cash on hand. he only has about $9 million cash on hand. and that is a concern especially when you see other candidates like bernie sanders, $33 million in the bank, elizabeth warren something like $26 million in the bank. it also explains his schedule. he is a candidate who spends a lot of time behind closed doors fundraising. he does allow print pool to come in, so a reporter to kind of hear those interactions, but it is fewer interactions he is having with voters and in-that is impacting his performance on the trail. >> and if you are watching a game here, you're saying we have a game here to watch. zack, thank you so much. josh letterman, thank you. that will do it for us. join me back here next saturday and sunday 4:00 p.m., look forward to seeing you then. "politics nation" starts right
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good evening and welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, doing the right thing. and a piece of refreshing news, donald trump has today backtracked and decided that his resort in doral, florida will no
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