good evening and welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, doing the right thing. and a piece of refreshing news, donald trump has today backtracked and decided that his resort in doral, florida will no longer be the host of next year's g7 summit. the president of course blamed

the democrats and the media and said one option for a different location may be camp david. a location that white house chief of staff mick mulvaney on thursday said was, quote, a complete disaster. so just so i'm clear, trump's plan for the g7 was blatant corruption and he was right to drop it. all of this as washington is bracing for another dramatic week with more testimonies from those scheduled to tell congress about the president's apparent quid pro quo request ukraine with the focus on the current acting ambassador who is expected to testify on tuesday. how will the president handle more pressure this week from his o republican party or is he enter

whagt washingt ing what the "washington post" is calling a season of weakness 37 jo joining me now, compa-host of a podcast and also former staff for ben carson's presidential campaign. and very rare to see this president back down. do you think that his reversing on using the g7 meeting -- using his hotel and resort is because of all of the pressure that is coming from the ukraine investigation, those officials that testified this week and the ones coming, or do you think that he is just doing the right thing? almost hard to ask the question since i know the president. >> well, i certainly don't think that it was the latter of the

two. i think he had no choice. i think as the "washington post" column pointed out, donald trump is finding himself more and more in a corner alone. i think that you are beginning to see more and more republicans come out against this president not only on the ukranian issue and syria and turkey, but you also have senator mitt romney who has been very outspoken, critically outspoken on some of the more ethical issues as it pertains to the impeachment inquiry in the house. you have some republicans senators say they want to hear this case once it comes to the united states senate. so i think that the last thing this embattled president needed was another ethical question that would have garnered more criticism and critiques rightfully so from republicans in the senate when he is just not quite sure how it will work out. >> and self inflicted by bringing to his own resortresor. danielle, is the calculus here that not only the optics because he has been under such attack this week from some people that

worked in his administration, his state department, and we're looking at the ambassador and others this week, is the calculus here that they better cut their losses and not push forward because he is concerned about senators, republican senators, in the senate that if there is an impeachment vote and it goes to the senate that may get a little shaky if he keep hes piling on more and more ethical questions? >> yeah, i mean basically republicans have finally gotten to the place where what donald trump has done is indefensible. you hear them saying that they are not getting transcripts on time, but they are not out front defending the president. so he needs to quit while he is behind. he has all of these things loaded on top of him that is self self inflicting like you said. he said that he did a quid pro

quo. and mick mulvaney said the same thing and now backtracking. >> mulvaney said get over it. >> yeah, he said we do it all the time. and now you see him on all the weekend shows backtracking on what he said. and the reporter that asked the question clarified and said are you sure that this is what you are saying? so that it was going to be very, very clear that mick mulvaney was admitting to exactly what the president had already admitted to. so i think that this doral issue is frankly something that they don't need because it is obvious that it is the president trying to enrich himself and using doral to do that. >> now, shthis week seven will before before house committees for their depositions. this is a graph from tuesday through friday that will be testifying. and that could add even more damage to the president around the ukraine investigation and his directives.

and again you have the president himself and his acting chief of staff that have already said in no uncertain terms that they were holding up approved military aid to ukraine because they wanted an investigation of a potential opponent. and mulvaney saying, well, we wanted it of the server with hillary clinton who was an opponent. so either way you are dealing with them using federally approved money to pressure that government to engage in a political investigation. this can only codo more damage suppose. >> and if the president were to say we're going to withhold aid until the government changes their stance on certain positions. that is not out of the norm. but here the president was doing so to see personal political benefit to himself under the assumption that joe biden would be the democratic nominee.

i think what is interesting about this -- >> it was specific because i think a lot of people don't understand, they didn't say until you go against corruption, they specifically named biden case and mulvaney's case, he specifically said the server dealing with hillary clinton. so they were very specific. >> they were. >> they were not talking about corruption. >> and that is why i highlighted the two because there have been some talking points from some of the president's defenders sort of mixing up the two if you will. and i want to be very specific there is a clear distinction. i think what the administration has attempted to do by prohibiting some of these individuals testifying has not worked. you continue to see more and more of these individuals go before the congress, more than of these details are coming out. and i think that this is only going to get crazier if for example someone like rudy giuliani is indicted. i've spoken with several attorneys who believe that that is likely going to be the case at some point in the future. imagine if that happens, what

more information we will discover. so politically i think what has to concern this president is that he may lose support with republicans in the senate because as the needle with independents continues to move and support for impeachment, there are over 20 republican senators up for re-election in 2020 and mitch mcconnell's number one obligation is to try to secure his majority by any means necessary. if it becomes very, very clear that more independents are beginning to switch over to the democratic side, i would argue that you will see some republicans saying wait a minute here, we need to hear this thing out in its entirety and then let the chips fall where they may. and that is not good news for donald trump. >> danielle, when you look at the landscape of that, on top of that, the withdrawal of troops from syria, the five day cease fire that we are looking at footage of there is no cease fire, there are raids going on by turkey from erdogan that this

president made this agreement with a phone call without checking with u.s. intelligence or pentagon or talking to personal lies, so i mean, it is a whole lot for even the most conservative republican senator to have to try to balance. >> i mean, it is completely indefensible. and you've had all of the acting military, none of them were asked by this president whether this was a good move. he did it because he wanted to show erdogan that he is just as bad an authoritarian can figure as he is and he did it as a favor. and he is killing people that are our allies. he has created a humanitarian crisis, a military crisis and saying that it is just okay, two kids fighting. is but people a but people are dying because of the decision that he made. this is a relationship that took years, decades to create with the kurds. and he has destroyed it in a

mere week. >> and kurds were protecting american interests. they were getting people in -- that were part of isis and withholding them. i mean, would e're not talking a charity here. they were serving the interests of the united states. >> they lost 10,000 lives because of the battle that they were waging on our behalf. >> not to mention the ethnic cleansing that mr. erdogan was engaged in. you worked for mitt romney. have you been in touch with him or those around him? he's made some very strong statements. is mitt romney thinking about jumping into the presidential primary? >> i haven't spoken to the senator directly. i have spoken with a former boss of mine who is very, very close to the senator. and look, mitt romney is an upstanding guy. i'm not surprised at all that mitt romney is going to speak out on things that he finds to be morally and ethically wrong for any leader regardless of

their i had ydeologyideology, f. i hope that it gives the do are for other republicans who have been hesitant. you can't defend the indefensible anymore. and i fry to think about it in political terms because that will move the needle for the senators.think about it in political terms because that will move the needle for the senators. i do think that you will see the independents move and if the independents move, i think that that is when you will see some of the republicans move. >> and when you see president trump out on the stump, he went to several cities this week, and he is playing to his base crowd, but many are saying, well, his crowd is not expanding, there are real questions that independents are beginning to say wait a minute here, it is too much and you can't act as though this is not within the

realm of being highly questionable. and when you have a man that said i can shoot somebody on fifth avenue and my people will still vote for him, you people a are saying maybe there is a smoking gun here. >> and what we've seen is donald trump's base will stick by him regardless. they will follow him over a cliff. but donald trump cannot win 2020 with his base alone. he does need independents. he does need white suburban woman and polling shows that they are moving away from donald trump. they don't like what they are seeing in the immigration cry are sis and what is happening in syria. this is problematic for this president.sis and what is happe syria. this is problematic for this president. he has never worked expand his base. he has alienated most independents who are saying make economically he is doing well

for the country, but he isn't. the trade deal is a disaster. syria is a disaster ter. and what he is doing right now being so bold to admit it in front of the white house and his chief of staff saying get over it? i mean these are actions that are indefensible. >> and when he changed last night, what happened to the ten experts that looked for sites and they said this is the best site according to the president, mulvaney saying this place looks like it was built for this. and be just overnight, these ten people just -- >> disappeared. >> poof, disappeared. maybe because they weren't really. but thank you. coming up, how will the impeachment process impact the campaign on both sides of the aisle? i'll ask senator cory booker and also beto o'rourke.

but first, my colleague richard lui with other stories we are following this hour. >> and a story we're following, a training accident at fort should you art, georgia has killed three soldiers. a statement from the u.s. army says the bradley fighting vehicle the soldiers were riding on, that it crashed overnight. three others on board were the injured. the cause is under investigation. and in hong kong, tensions there remain high after another night of violent clashes. this is marking the 20th straight week of demonstrations that have increasingly turned violent. the marches began this opposition to a since scrapped bill that allowed extraditions to mainland china. but expanded to include calls for greater democracy. and finally, the world series, it is set, ladies and gentlemen. the houston astros defeated the yankees last night 6-4. they will face the washington nationals, that begins tuesday. more "politics nation" right

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we have to conduct this process in a way that is honorable. i swore an oath to do my job as a senator, did my duty. this president has violated his. i will do mine. >> senator cory booker at tuesday's democratic presidential debate emphasizing the need for the ongoing impeachment inquiry into the

president's alleged abuses of power to be both urgent and honorable. and joining me now is new jersey senator and democratic presidential candidate cory booker. he is also a member of the senate judiciary and foreign relations committees. senator booker, you made a point of talking on tuesday night's debate in ohio about how this is beyond politics but that it is the duty of the united states senate and congress to deal with these issues and deal with the allegations that are serious about abuse of power. >> absolutely. i mean, the way we conduct this is really important. and it should be a way to build more consensus for what i think is going to ultimately be articles of impeachment. it can't be seen to be done in a strictly partisan way and should be done in a way that i think puts as much information and

truth out there for the american public to see so that we can hopefully gain more of a consensus around what the ultimate conclusion of the house of representatives is. >> when you hear the president standing in the driveway of the white house saying china should go after and investigate biden and basically say, yes, it was fine for ukraine to go after the bidens. and then mulvaney in a press conference say politics is in foreign affairs, get over it, i mean they are already testifying to the public with many in the congress and the committees are hoping that they can find out one way or another. it is almost like they already confessed. >> it is astounding frankly that we would have a president that would so shatter norms, but also what i believe is your oath to invite foreign interference in our elections is exactly what our founder s warned us about.

and he is doing it now from the highest office in the land. so he is damning himself in my opinion with his own words. and is ththis is a really a tes our great republic. do the folks on the other side of the aisle, are they going to allow this to be the new standard for a president, are they going to say that what is he is doing is okay. if they do that they will begin democracy. so we need people about to be acting for not the short term political goals but for the long term well-being of the united states of the america. >> and you've worked with people on the other side of the aisle, you worked on me to support it. and do you think -- have you heard, do you have any suggestions that maybe some republicans on the other side of the aisle may vote if the

impeachment comes to the senate, they may vote in a way that is not strictly partisan? >> you know how hard i work in building relationships on the other side of the aisle. from going to binl study ble ste gym and going out to meals. and i've been hearing for two years moments of honesty from my colleagues who are offended by things that the president does and feels like he is violating faith with this country. so it is one thing to have private conversations, it is another thing to stand up when this nation needs you to stand up. when everything is on the line. and so this will be a moment that we'll see whether there is a profile in courage. because on the democratic side, we shouldn't ability like it is an easy thing to do. we know that people who stand up right now will face consequences. the president has a tremendous amount of support that will support him right or wrong.

but we as statespeople should not be supporting anyone, democrat, republican, right or wrong, we should stand up for what is right especially when the republic is at stake, especially when kons tugts al m constitutional mandates are at stake. >> and you have taken issue with former secretary of state hillary clinton in her suggestion that tulsi gabbard, one of your opponents for president, congresswoman from hawaii, was being groomed by the russians. why did you find it negligenit o take mrs. clinton on? >> well, first of all, i'm a big fan of secretary clinton. she is both a friend and somebody who has been invaluable in many ways in just giving me advice and insight. one of our great secretaries of state and a former senator. i'm not taking issue with her at

all. but as a candidate, i'm trying to focus on what is ahead of us, not ripping other candidates down and just are fo focus on w important, no matter who the nominee and i hope it is me, but we need to unify whoever our nominee is. so, yeah, let's have disagreements, but i'm not going to engage in character assassination or attacking individuals in a derogatory demeaning personal way. i don't think that that is necessary at this point especially not with congresswoman gabbard. >> the last time you were on "politics nation" with me, you made the statement that if you didn't raise a send amoucertainf money by a certain date, you would not be in the debate in ohio and you were possibly dropping out. you raise the muised much more and you were in the debate. how do you deal with the polling numbers still being very close and the black vote?

one of the things that i was very disturbed about is when we look at the police shooting and kills of miss jefferson last weekend right before the debate in ft. worth, texas. when we look at the case right in texas of officer amber guyger sentenced to a murder conviction. and only julian castro brought it un. how can candidates appeal to the black vote when the issues are not even in the debate? >> i tell you what, i put two names on the pad in front of me in that debate, one was atatania jefferson and the other atalio merlot who was murdered. and i put this emthere becauem their stories were important to talk about. but you know that you have maybe 10, 15 minutes over three hours

and that point was made by julian castro. but as someone who is african-american and who knows what it is like to be fearful, to be followed in department stores, when i was a youth in my dealings with police, this is a sense of urgency and we have to start to talk about these issues. and about the polling, and you both know that there is never a president in our lifetime who has ever been polling ahead hat this point that went on to the white house. the people that win are people like me. bill clinton in the low single digits. even barack obama was behind hillary clinton at this point and even in train voteafrican-a voters in south carolina. we're a long way out. and what we're with doing in iowa and new hampshire, we're leading the entire field in endorsements from local elected people, people who know their

neighborhoods, city council people, mayors, state reps and state senators. so we're building a campaign to win and we're asking people to help us. the people polling at the top get that money -- raise resources tremendously because the pundits push them. we just hope people will give us a shot and make a contribution. we need that help. >> all right. thank you so much for being with me tonight, senator cory booker. joining me now is another 2020 candidate former texas congressman beto o'rourke. welcome back to "politics nation." first of all, your thoughts on how the impeachment inquiry will impact the democratic race for the nominee. >> it is so important that the country through our representatives in congress focus on holding the president accountable and bringing him to

justice. otherwise we'll set a press dech precedent because some people because of their power are above the law.ss precedent because some people because of their power are above the law. so though it might complicate things in the presidential race and the poll willing, but it is a very necessary thing if we are a going to hold donald trump accountable.willing, but it is a very necessary thing if we are a going to hold donald trump accountable. so i'm grateful for the mefbs the house that are working on this and even republican members who are beginning to show signs of courage to say the right thing, call what the president is doing by its right name, a quid pro quo is what representative rooney from florida, a republican member, just said over the last couple days. and we hope that the republican senators have the courage of their convictions, put this country over their party, and save this democracy while we still can. so it is the right thing for us to be focused on. >> so you don't buy into those that say that the impeachment inquiry could over shshadow or e

too much oxygen out of the room from the presidential campaign, you say this is a matter of principal and it is a matter of saving the country? >> that's right. i would probably con seed tmmone point that it is much harder to break through to become part of the conversation when we are gripped in the dramaseed the point that it is much harder to break through to become part of the conversation when we are gripped in the drama of this strug. but ensuring that we can preserve this republic and pass it on to our kids, that should take precedence over anything else. but any challenge that we want to meet on health care or criminal justice or rewriting the immigration laws or confronting climate change only becomes possible if this great democracy still works. and it is unlike right noyou un we need to overcome the challenge. and i think everything else including the politics will work themselves out. >> how do you view the president -- two part question

here. how do you view the president reversing on saying that he would have the g7 conference at his hotel and resort, the did are r doral in florida, and now saying he will not, and how do you deal with what is clearly empty five day cease fired commitment from turkey to secretary pompeo and vice president pence when we're seeing actual fighting going on? >> president trump perhaps inspired by the propaganda of the third reich oig seseemed toy this tactic of the bigger the lie the more obscene justice, the more dizzying the pace of the bizarre behavior, the less likely we are to do something about it. so i'm grateful that not only is the house moving forward with impeachment, but that the public really began it rise up when the president sought to enrich

himself by hosting the g7 summit at one of his own properties. this administration is finally come can go to the reckoning of the public women. so it w will. so it is a good sign that he was stopped.men. will. so it is a good sign that he was stopped. when it comes to syria, this is an emxwar rbar rasing moment. and these kurdish fighters laid down their lives for this country. he dsz hone dishonored this com and made it far less likely that well fight along u.s. service members. we have to correct it and re-establish the stature and standing and security of the united states on the global

stage. >> did i hear you correctly say that perhaps he was influenced by the third reich in terms of telling a big lie? just want to make sure i heard you say it. >> that's right. there is so much that is resonant of the third reich in this administration. whether attempting to ban all people of one religion, saying muslims are defective or disqualified, outside of nazi germany, it is hard for me to find another modern democracy that had the audacity to say something like this. and then this idea from hitler that the bigger the lie and the more often you right poo it, he it, the more likely people are to believe it, that is donald trump to a t.ht he repeat it, the more likely people are to believe it, that is donald trump to a t. what he says about immigrants being rapists, being predators and animals, seeking to dehumanize them, that is how we get them in cages, how we lost

lives the seven children in our custody and care, talking about african-american women duly elected by their constituents as somehow being less than american and telling them to go back to their own country or calling white supremacists and neo-nazis and clansmen very fine people, this signal is being picked up by measuramericans willing to w that hatred. and we saw that in he wiel pasoe a man killed 22 on a saturday before school started that next monday. so this is the cost and consequence of donald trump. >> all right. you clearly said, it is the third reich. let me go to another issue. you visited this week the family of a t atatania jeff a atatania jefferson who was killed by a police officer in

ft. worth. tell us why you decided to go because i was a little disturbed that only castro brought this shooting up at the debate as i brought to senator booker. >> a week ago, tay jefferson was with her 8-year-old nephew in her own home when she was shot by a white police officer through her bedroom window. and as you well know, this is the second time a black american has been shot in a larger texas community by a white police officer. botham jean killed by am bettbe guyger. and tay was not doing anything to anyone. she was in the one place that should be safe for any human being, any american, and it was there that she was killed. and amber said we don't feel

safe literally anymore. and for those in this country to feel fear from those who are sworn to serve and protect everyone in this country, shows just how dangerous america is for black women and black men today. and nsz theunless there is accountability, it will continue to happen. so i'm grateful to them for meeting with me. and to the attorney representing the family trying to bring light to the situation, this has absolutely has to stop. >> all right. thank you beto o'rourke. coming up, separate but unequ unequal, that seems to be the law down in louisiana when affluent white suburb voted to separate itself from its more urban city center. that is in my weekly gotcha,

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average scores and reduce bias and counter stereotypes among others. and this scheme is basically modern day red lining. a brief reminder, red lining began with the national housing act of 1934 where in maps with literal red lines were deployed where black families were able to live and where whites were able to keep black family in his s certain area, they were also able to control the tax base and keep black children in underfunded schools. fast forward to today. clearly this is still going on. local baton rouge leaders are condemning the move to create a new city and say that it could sow further division and financial uncertainty in what would be louisiana's fifth most populist city. so to the st. george community,

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survivors of sexual assault and assault shared their experiences and exposed serial abusers in industries ranging from sports to politics to entertainment. n 2020 cycle, the movement has been largely absent from the rhetoric on the democratic campaign trail. and none of the presidential debates have raised the issue. me too founder turona burke recently unveiled a new hashtag, me too voter, in an effort to get debate moderators and presidential candidates to raise the issue of sexual violence, and she joins me now. welcome back to "politics nation." >> thank you for having me. >> this hashtag that your starting in terms of voters is to get the debates, both moderators and candidates, as well as the candidates, to address this issue of people having power in the industries

using that power, something that you have worked on long before the hashtag. >> absolutely. it's for that and also to let the world know, including politicians, that surviefers of sexual violence are taxpayers, are leaders, and we're voters. and we care about this issue so it should be addressed by people in leadership. >> have you seen among voters a real thirst to see this issue raised in a campaign so that it becomes a presidential item that they deal with and commit to dealing with legislation and other things once the election is over, if in fact they're successful? >> absolutely. everywhere i go, i get survivor who i meet in the street or people who support survivors asking why aren't they talking about thissishi. why don't we have more legislation. i thought, why are we whispering about this? there's a group of us, justice for migrant women, we all talk to each other all of the time and thought why are we

whispering about this. all of us collectively have power, survivors have power. we need to exert this power in this moment. >> why aren't the women in these debates, the candidates, addressing this, and have you and the groups you talk with and lead, reach out to them and saying if anybody just like i just questioned about the police matters, why aren't you bringing this up? >> i don't think it's just for the women candidates to bring up. i think survivors cross the spectrum. they identify as every gender and this should be an issue everybody cares about. when you have 19 million people in the year tweeting about one topic and 12 million people in 24 hours saying my life is affected by this topic, you have a public health crisis on your hand. this is a human rights issue that affects so many people right here in the united states, so many constituents so every candidate should take about what their plan is to address sexual violence. >> when you look at size of the

women voters, it's a dominant vote, majority vote. >> 54% of the vote last time. >> that's exactly right. you would think any candidate that was serious would want to address issues of concern. >> absolutely. you are talking about, first of all, let's talk about black women for a second. black women as an electorate in the last election carried the democratic vote. we are the largest voting bloc of democratic voters. we're also the second largest group of people to experience -- women to experience sexual violence in this country. i can pull out all kind of demographics of voters and tell you how that relates to people who experience sexual violence. it's just smart. it's smart politics to say we have to also address this. we have to talk about how we make our communities safer, how we make women safer, children safer, people who experience sexual violence safer. >> can we expect, i have known you since you were an activist in alabama going way back, though you were younger than me. can we expect to see some of you at some of these debates.

>> you might. i think we need to have the candidates, the candidates need to speak up and say what their platforms are. we're willing to have town halls. we're willing to talk about this in any forum, but also, this is about the media. the media needs to also ask these questions too. msnbc is hosting a debate, i think next time. >> limited debate outside of atlanta. >> that's right. if the candidates aren't willing to bring it up and talk about their platforms, we need to media to also elevate this to a priority and ask the question. >> all right, tarana burke, always good to see you. >> thank you. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. at outback, steak & oh no, it's gone.ck. phew, it's back with lobster mac & cheese. it's gone again. oh, it's back with shrimp now! steak & lobster starting at only $15.99.

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atatiana jefferson, a 28-year-old black woman, playing with her nephew in her home, was killed by a policeman in ft. worth, texas. she was to be funeralized yesterday. i and others were invited to speak. it's been delayed, dealing with a family dispute. don't let the postponement or the family sorting out whatever they must do get away from the fact that this young lady should not have been killed. she was killed with a shot through the window about a week after we saw another police person, amber guyger, a policewoman, sentenced to only

ten years, convicted of the murder of botham jean. there's a continuing problem of police killings and of police doing things that are done only in communities that are black or of color at a rate higher than they do in many other instances, even though they're wrong anywhere. so let's not use a private family matter that they will deal with to get away from the point. i have been talking with people like reverend tatum and others that are organizing in that community because there has been a pattern in ft. worth and around texas, and around this country. and i always say it is not an anti-police matter. it's a matter of anti-police brutality and when cops do wrong, the way to prove that no one is above the law is to punish them like we punish anyone else.

ms. jefferson and others that are similarly situated need justice. don't try and distract from that point. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next saturday at 5:00 p.m. eastern. up next, "meet the press" with chuck todd. this sunday, president trump testing limits. his chief of staff mick mulvaney admitting a quid pro quo with ukraine. >> we do that all the time with foreign policy. i have news for everybody. get over it. >> stunning many republicans. >> i have no idea he said what he said. >> prompting mulvaney to deny his own words. and blame a media witch hunt. >> i think he clarified his statement to be very clear. >> plus, turkey, syria, and the kurds. president trump's green light to turkey. >> the kurds are much safer right now. >> leads to a bipartisan condemnation by the house. >> the yeas 354. the nays are 60.