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house, not good for re-election reporter jeremy peters. privately in the cloakroom they his new piece entitled "as efforts if they're at 50%. speak very disparagingly of him. support for trump's impeachment >> yeah, these new york times and if there was a secret ballot grows, his base digs in its polls line up with national in the united states senate, i heels ". in it he takes a closer look at polls on impeachment what jort performance comes in lots of flavors. ♪ (dramatic orchestra) think trump would lose 90-10 the latest survey released by maybe. the public religion institute. sayi >> if there were a -- mike, if with the majority saying they according to that poll, 55% of support the impeachment. there were a secret ballot in there's the amped-up, over-tuned, republicans say president the senate this morning, mike trump's personal conduct has had it's no question that michigan feeding-frenzy-of sheet-metal-kind. pence would be president by no impact on their support, noon. and then there's performance that >> yes. including 47% of white gave president trump the votes yeah. just leaves you feeling better as a result. in 2016. >> it is that clear they want evangelicals. if he's under water in those just over a third of white trump out, they want mike pence that's the kind lincoln's about. states at large, generally his evangelicals, 36% say trump's in, they want to return to numbers are upside down. conduct was less likely to ♪ conservative principles, they if he loses those states, that impact whether they would back could be the end of it for him the president. want a return to conservative because this is right there for issues. so, jeremy, we leave these >> they want one day where all the talk that's happening in they're not asked a question numbers up for just a second, iowa, new hampshire, and all they can't answer. over the place, those three or one day. >> they want to talk about four states right there again, 47% of white evangelicals have policy instead of donald trump watch the president behave for likely, will decide who the next the last three years and change president is or whether he gets and say it does not impact their another term. >> and, gene, you look inside of trying to lute the federal these numbers, obviously, in support. treasury to make hundreds of >> exactly, willie. these swing states, republicans i think that's a pretty thousands of dollars on his remarkable figure when you stay loyal to the president, scottish resort or his ireland consider that this is a segment doesn't matter that he rebuilds of the electorate that has at resort or his miami bedbug isis, doesn't matter that he ridden resort. least up until now liked to betrays israel, doesn't matter they want to get back to that he's asking china to consider itself values voters. business. and trump's recklessness won't interfere in elections. none of it matters to these allow them to do that, mike. there's a convention held by a

>> do you think that there is a big evangelical group every year republicans. single united states senator, they're all in, they don't care maybe there's a single one, i called the values voters summit. how much he trashes the don't know, but do you think looking at the values of this there's a single member of the president, though, they seem to united states senate who wou constitution, they don't care disregard that. it's been a really interesting how many racist statements he makes. they're with him. grandchildren to espouse the of trend over the last four or five the number to look at here are years or so where what the independents now up to 40%. evangelical christians are his life? increasingly likely to say that as those numbers rise, and i >> not one of them. suspect they will rise as more >> not one. >> and you know, just to talk a politician's moral conduct, comes out about how just -- how his behavior, doesn't really corrupt this president is, matter to them in terms of about not only how he behaved that's the president's biggest challenge, that's the yesterday, but the sleaziness, the inside dealing, the talk re-election team's biggest thing about the swamp. we're working with the accession him as a lead to re-elect the president, this is the worst swamp kurds. we have a good relationship with assessing him as a leader. activity. he is swampman. i think that's gotten truer as president trump took office. the kurds. that's the biggest concern that independents are up to 39%. he is swampman. but we never agreed, you know to >> it's extraordinary if you >> yeah. >> he's swamped. >> for what he's been doing. look at what all of these the protect the kurds. and independents seem to be leaders were saying, all of them we fought with them for 3 1/2 to fleeing the sinking ship in he defended his original from franklin graham to cherry decision to host the 2020 g7 4 years. those battleground states. we never agreed to protect the and in other states as well. summit of world leaders at his kurds forest of their and why shouldn't they? failing resort. fallwell jr., what they were i mean, you know, as we get to his failing resort in miami lives. they were a great help, but we saying when bill clinton was president of the united states were a great help were fightin. when he was facing impeachment, yesterday. and it's not just failing understand what president trump because all of the bedbugs, so we were fighting isis. did with ukraine, as we look at because people are suing him the hypocrisy is staggering because if you go there. among evangelical leaders and a but we never agreed -- where did >> very itchy. lot of evangelicals themselves. his day in and day out >> doral you've got to be we agree that we have to stay in david french tweeted yesterday,

worried about getting bedbugs. the middle east for the rest of you get bitten up. he said about that recent performance as president, and that guy, did you see the humanity to protect -- we never crow almost want to put polling shows -- showing zealous said is that. picture of that guy, sued him. and we have protected them. president in quotes because he's not acting the way a real evangelical opposition to we've taken very good care of impeachment, the lesser of two them. we helped them, don't forget, we president acts, i think you're i feel like itching my hair evils mask is off. going to see independents right now, it's just creepy. helped the kurds. the alternative here is not continue to leave the trump >> yeah. everybody said the kurds helped >> but it's been going down for hillary, the alternative is us, that's true. the past couple of years. but we helped the kurds. only like one out of three rooms pence. they're no angels, but we helped train. and where that leaves president based on "washington post" under similar facts where a trump is out of luck. reporting is going to be the kurds. democrat then want to remove. there's no way he can win with occupied in these mid-summer we never gave the kurds a these evangelicals are just months. and yet he wanted to stuff money commitment that we'd protect those kinds of numbers. inside of his pockets and fill them. they've been fighting with the turks for 300 years. trumpists now, so says -- one of especially given the trend line. those rooms and get millions and and nobody ever committed, gee, if you do this, we'll do that. and i have, you know, most of -- millions of dollars of free the evangelical movement most we'll stay with you forever. there's a core of republicans publicity. >> you know the emoluments important thought leaders. nobody ever said that. who are going to stick with him >> president trump defending his clause is in the constitution. jeremy, respond to that. no matter what. >> it's in the constitution. how do these people you talk to, but when you hear, you know, the >> and the president took a shot decision to leave the kurds to, how do they justify their change at the constitution and blamed quote, fend for themselves. occasionally discouraging word that for his abrupt reversal. from being evangelicals who are, of course, the brokered pause is even from republican senators >> it would have been great. quote, values voters to just set to end today, so we'll see now, specifically in the syria being trumpists? but the democrats went crazy. >> i don't get the sense, joe, even though i would have done it what happens with that. that's the pause in the context, but nonetheless, when free, save the country a lot of incursion into northern syria today. you start to hear that, you have money. then they say, oh, but you'll that they think all that much meanwhile, the pentagon has get promotions 'the who cares. begun making plans for a to wonder even whether the sort about. py don't thii don't think they withdrawal of all u.s. troops you don't think i get enough promotion? of republican fire hold -- i get more promotion than any worrying about it. from afghanistan, in case human being that's ever lived. i think something has happened here in terms of the mold of president trump surprises

firewall is going to continue i don't think you people with military leaders by ordering an politicians that many intact or if he's going to have this phony emoluments clause. immediate drawdown as he did in some problems there as well. evangelical christians say that >> joe, mika, i would add on the and, by the way, i would say they want and that they've syria. joining us now, co-author of that it's cost me anywhere from learned to accept. that report, nbc news question of independents in this 2 to $5 billion to be president, poll, 51% of independents correspondent carol lee. and that's okay. that's not mofld mithe mold of carol, tell us about this plan. between what i lose and what i support the inquiry. so that's to say a majority of could have made, i would have pence. you had conservative christians contingency plan. independents in those six made a fortune if i just ran my >> yeah. who, republican looking at gary well, what we've learned as the battleground states believe they business. i was doing it really well. president has wanted to see something they don't like on bauers and rick santorums the question of ukraine, it's >> so the president talks about the phony emoluments clause. thinking that's what we need obviously withdraw from just that 39% of them support afghanistan, syria and when, in fact, it was donald well, actually, that clause trump who got done for them what elsewhere, going back to 2017 removing him from office. they wanted done on everything when he first came into office there's that question out there, from abortion to religious is this going to alien eight? appears in article one, section and he's been kind of deterred is this impeachment in the by that by people around him. moderate voters in the big freedom. they look at him and say he may important states. nine, are you ready, donald, of be a bully but he's our bully. now, we're at this point where a majority of them believe there's an election in about a there's something to look into if you talk to people like the the united states constitution. here. >> yeah. year from now and there's still i tell you something else to phony? no, actually our founding former bush speech writer who always remember, mika, is that has really thought about this a troops in afghanistan and even fathers wrote this. lot and is certainly no fan of we always have to remember is syria. and there's concern that the that when a pollster calls up no titled know built shall be president will just abruptly and says, do you support the current egan jell cvangelical pe grante start pulling the plug on a lot president? do you not support the of these troop deployments president? a lot of people in the tribes, protest or trust end them shall they go to their corner. overseas. specifically on afghanistan. without the consent of emolumen so the pentagon has gone back and don't always say exactly what they think. will say this has released a and decided to, you know, mean streak, they want a refresh its plans. and just like people used to be cultural warrior, somebody who and figure out how it would work office, or title of any kind punches at their opponents and ashamed to admit they support if president trump would whatever from any king abruptly say as he did in syria, donald trump. in fact, nobody would admit to principle, or foreign state. everybody's got to get out. us whenever we went around and belils th and one of the plans including

and jon meacham, this just belittles them because they feel an option for removing all of gave talks. belittle. there are a lot of evangelicals nobody would admit that they proves again that the trump the troops there from were voting for donald trump. presidency is a presidency who find that quite troubling. and at one point i just started afghanistan within weeks. that's been defined by >> when you reduce your so this is sort of a religious faith, when you reduce combination, you know, either saying you're all lying because the political calendar and you're all voting for him, stop politics down to one issue, president trump long wanting to lying and they'd laugh and go, do this, and the pressure's incompetence, illiberalism, and abortion, then you give donald yeah, we are. there. and then they're looking at i will literacy. well, now as donald trump exits he is illiterate had it comes to syria. and seeing this is somewhere that the president is clearly trump a blank check to be as stage left, i suspect that we civics. he's illiterate when it comes to willing to do. will see the same thing that heinous as he chooses to be in whereas he's been talked out of people will be reluctant to american history. it in the past, now he's not his personal life, in his admit publicly that they can't and, yes, he proved against been talked out of it. put up with him anymore. political life, and every phase yesterday he's illiterate when of his life. i had the funniest conversation it comes to the united states and, of course, that is too high and he's showning a willingness with a guy in florida about a of a price for so many people to month ago and he knew i was on constitution. populism is one thing. pay and for good reason. to go ahead with the thought it is a trend that has been since he came into office. tv but didn't watch the show >> carol lee, thank you very that much because he always got growing in eastern and central jon meacham, tim carney had a much. we'll be reading your report at up early golfing the at the goes europe, i would actually argue weren't you a republican fascinating book released this year that really echos what nbcnews.com. joining us the second congressman? i go, yeah, yeah, i was and had this morning that actually it's ranking member of the senate, we've seen in polling about, no idea that time a conservative reached its high point already and is receding. quote, evangelicals. minority w.h.i.p. dick durbin of but i had problems with donald you can see that in local trump. for many evangelical is just a he goes, what are we going to do elections, in hungary local illinois. senator, i guess, the first question for you would be, as label. we're watching these steps being elections, in poland local it's just an identifier if the with that guy? elections across europe. taken, moving towards i can't stand the democrats. does not describe their actual i can't stand hillary. it's receding. impeachment, do these moves on i can't stand elizabeth warren. that said, he has taken the idea faith in jesus christ because, i can't vote for any of those the world stage, on the part of of populism to the most extreme the president, and really the people but, man, he's out of as tim carney points out and republican outcry against them, corn patrol. form in the world to where it borders now on complete and also as polls point out, the

we need mike pence in the white the overall outcry against them, house. more people attend church, the and he went on and on and on. total incompetency and i will and i felt, willie, you'll do you think they play into less likely they are to vote for changing attitudes towards remember this, i felt like i was looking at this president more trump. the more, quote, self-identified closely? and questioning his judgment and eddy murphy in that seen where literacy. >> it's actually an insult to everybody thought he was white ability to lead? >> well, mika, i've noticed a and he went behind the scenes to populists that he has become its evangelical voters go to church, if they attend regularly, their few things recently that i see what happened. embodiment. and suddenly he found out that populism is about the flow ofto haven't seen before. barks gave white people money and didn't make them sign loans support for donald trump drops or anything like that. it was a peek behind the trump's not a genuine pop list. this bipartisan resolution that precipitously. >> yeah. curtain. it may say 92% there supporting and we're at the end of a passed congress for the andrew jackson was a genuine pop president of the united states's decision when it came to erdogan, turkey the kurds and donald trump and not wanting the list in many ways. impeachment inquiry, but, mika, 60-year cycle or in the midst of syria is a crack in the armor of hui long to some extent was a it's actually the fear and a 60-year cycle pay the the lov this administration i have not loathing is rising. genuine pop list. folks think that the beginning trump was like joe mccarthy. of the culture wars was january, witnessed before. and that is something that roy cone, the attorney, proving to have mitch mcconnell, mitch republican members of the hill 1973 when roe versus wade was are picking up on. you don't have to make this mcconnell, put in "the >> well, you think the president stuff up, god just provides washington post" a long decided. as you know, it really started statement and editorial would be focused on those people these details, once received condemning the president's and those numbers, but he's decision to back away from in 1962 when the school -- actually focused on republican mccarthy that he had bought working with the kurds. anticommunism the way somebody supreme court decided that so, there clearly is evidence sectarian school prayer was lawmakers chastising them for that even within the highest ranks of the republican party on not sufficiently defending him unconstitutional. and i remember covering rallies in the escalating impeachment capitol hill, there's second in north georgia not far from fight during a cabinet meeting might buy a car if the was. thoughts about how much longer they can tolerate this man. yesterday, he urged members of it was a vehicle to get someplace. where your grandmother lived that's what trump's done. >> senator durbin, it's willie his party to get tougher and he traffics in our basic where people would haul geist. instincts. mitch mcconnell will write that it's as much as aphobia, racism, letter. fight while pointing the finger evangelical activists in the we've heard a lot from lindsey at one of his most outspoken early '90s would hold up

isolationism as anything else. republican critics, senator mitt graham on this issue of syria homemade signs that showed one of the mysteries of the age social indicators like abortion, romney. >> i think the democrats are and to this is the moment where divorce, crime, and dated them which will ultimately be solved not from '73, but from '62. lousy politicians with lousy the dam breaks and we've been is to what extent he has been here before and we thought that policy. they want open boarders, they was going to happen. don't care about crime. acting consciously or do you see any private evidence my own view from that experience in your conversations with your they want sanctuary cities. has been that the core they don't care about drugs. deliberately at the behest of a former republicans, with foreign power even. they don't care about almost and i use that word advisedly. senators, that they're fed up anything. evangelical issue through these i think they're lousy 60 years or so, which is hard to with president trump and why politicians. but two things they have. believe it's been that long, has aren't they saying publicly? he represents the russian world they're vicious and they stick view in a way with far more been the supreme court. >> willie, they've been fed up it's been judges. together. clarity and consistency, for a long time, but they're they don't have mitt romney in their midst. actually, than he represents the and what's apparently happened afraid of him. american world view. they're afraid that this that's just a clinical is people are, in fact, willing president is going to turn they don't have people like around and challenge them in a that. republicans have to get tougher to do -- put up with almost and fight. observation. primary. i saw one washington senators we have some that are great the framers put that article in anything in order to get the the constitution because they kinds of judges that they saying he was going to break fighters but they have to get tougher and fight because the feared moments like this. with the president on a key democrats are trying to hurt the republican party for the they thought they'd be dealing believe, in their view, will put issue. within 48 hours he backed off with it with somebody like aaron god back in the classroom, the election. from that from the threats from >> mike barnicle, but the way, bird being bought off or take care of abortion. the white house. before we talk about what he a afraid what it can do. something. just said there, i have to it took a while. and that's, to my mind, that's i want to salute mitt romney for correct two things that are just the calculation they're making. blatant lies. it took 2 1/2 centuries. he says democrats don't care >> you know, jeremy, it's been his courage in stepping up, about borders, they like open but it was a prescient moment. interesting we've seen this, the realizing there's something more borders. i will remind americans again it was prescient nor reasfor th current generation of important than being loyal to evangelical leaders, the elders this president. for those with tears heaears to of this movement become very being loyal to this country is reason. the founders understood in a way transactional as jon meacham first and foremost. that we are entirely conscious just said on the issue of judges of or we don't acknowledge as >> and, senator, on the question and abortion.

is there any difference in terms of ukraine, putting asyria of age? when barack obama left office, much, that we're sinful, fallen, if you look at younger the number of border crossings aside, but on ukraine, if you were at a 50-year low. he frail, fallible. a half sent trip lowcentury low we're going to screw things up ask, is it okay for the president of the united states, far often than we get them evangelical leaders or white any president of the united states, to try to make a deal to right. the founders based the evan gal cal leaders under 30 constitution on the fact that withhold taxpayer-funded i was playing tee ball in our passions would need checking. and that bet on human nature, themselves, is there any military assistance to seek out mississippi the last time crisi dirt on a political opponent in backlash to the transactional which in some ways was a bet politics, or is this something that you don't see the new joe biden, how do they answer against human nature has been that question? generation imposing change in >> they look at their shoes, proven right. the way white evangelicals are >> first of all, i want to willie, because they don't have congratulate you on getting approaching american politics? a good answer to it. >> in my reporting anecdotally i no president should be oppressions into the show, good conspiring or working with a job by you. have picked up on that, it that foreign leader to influence a u.s. election. >> i knew mika would like that. there indeed say differenis a g >> mika said leaning into that that just isn't a policy i've dreamed up. it happens to be the law of the sound bite where the president united states of america. called the constitution phony or they understand this law. some 35 words, very clearly the emoluments clause phony that difference here. he took a shot at the these are people that grew up stating, you just cannot even constitution. you have to let that set until during the clinton impeachment. for a minute. they remember their parents solicit that kind of assistance the president of the united driving around with bumper stickers about how you need to from a foreign leader to states taking shots at the influence a u.s. election. constitution. but this is his pattern. he calls anything that doesn't it's obvious. turn out well for him phony, and many of them, as i say, look cleanse the office and impeach whether it's the press or the down and away when i bring the deep state as he calls it, the president for his immoral question up, because it's congress, the intelligence agencies, it has to be phony so conduct. and they look at the current impossible to answer in a style that favors the president. leader and it strikes them as that dit cannot be valid if it' >> senator, this is pretty hypocritical, how they can continue to back this president, depressive listening to you with somebody who has paid off a porn

a criticism him. star. and i think that disconnect the behavior of your colleagues where he talk about the values there is something that worries in the senate. holding in the face of this a lot of evangelicals i talk to. but let me ask you, i'm surely administration. it looks like another moment they worry that for the future, you probably saw the videos of where it will hold. people in syria throwing for the health of the movement >> it's my hope, our common to have aligned themselves, potatoes and fruits in outrage prayer, i think, because for all at the departing american tetherred themselves to trump in of our faults, you know, we are this way as dismissing it soldiers, leaving the kurds. the most durable, the longest leaving that particular area of between this choice between good lasting experiment in trying to run a democratic experience -- syria. wasn't exactly the and evil sin sufficientis insuf champs-elysees in august of '44 experiment in a plural listic, with american soldiers liberating paris. one person told me he views this but when you package all of this as a kind of end of life bargain complicated country. and the best has always been together, carol lee's report that a lot of evangelicals are that we just heard there's a that that document that he -- making. they look at their culture and policy from the pentagon with part of which he referred to as shrinking church attendance, phony the other day, is in many they look at their shrinking quick withdrawal from afghanistan in case the share of the u.s. population, ways for all of its failings, it the fact that they're getting president makes another older and dying off. and they think, well, you know, mercurial decision to get troops was the embodiment, the manifest we've got to get what we can out, like by tomorrow afternoon. station of a really profound while we can. have you thought about, and can insight about human nature. and if donald trump is the guy you answer the following that gets us there, so be it. question, how long do you think really two insights. it will be, and is it possible and they just kind of throw up one was that, as jefferson put their hands. >> how many times have we heard to restore the credibility, the it in the declaration, we were it, we didn't elect a saint, we all created equal. elected a president in donald name, the reputation, that the trump. we didn't apply that sentence jeremy peters, thank you very united states of america has

much. coming up next on "morning joe," fully then, we haven't applied earned and treasured around the he will be among the 100 it now, i understand that. globe for 70 years? but it put in process a story senators to decide the president's fate if impeachment how long will it take to repair where liberty would ultimately should reach the united states that damage? move, again, from the few to the >> the damage this president has senate. illinois democrat dick durbin done with 1,000 days in office joins our conversation straight ahead on "morning joe." s our c and we're barely beyond that ma ahead on "morning joe." ♪ (dramatic orchestra) many and the constitution, which mark, 1,000 days in office has was the operator's guide. the declaration was our destroyed the credibility of the statement of aspiration. united states in a way that i never imagined would happen. the constitution in more sim he's questioned basic alliances which has served the world to keep us in a peaceful way since world war ii. he has betrayed many of our police civil ti simplistic terms. the constitution has stood up allies. and he stands with some of the because the system was a sound worst leaders in the world, the one. but character is destiny. it requires congressman, dictators that he seems most comfortable with. senators, yes, presidents and and that demonstration by the judges to fulfill that document. kurds, it's an illustration. that's the great test we're here is a group of people who facing. >> you know, willie, while jon fought alongside the united states. gave 11,000 of their lives was taking about the war, i fighting with us and over 20,000 scratched down a couple of notes injured and risk their lives for here. performance comes in lots of flavors. you talked about the president our goals in syria and the of the united states taking middle east. shots at the constitution, and now we're abandoning them to bragging about taking shots at erdogan's plans to basically go the constitution, calling the there's the amped-up, over-tuned, through ethnic cleansing in that

feeding-frenzy-of sheet-metal-kind. same area. can you imagine if the united states ever wants to ask those constitution phone nip in t and then there's performance that just leaves you feeling better as a result. people or others to join us constitution phony in the is very rich for me. again, whether they're not going the time i grew up republicans would always carry a constitution, they would pull it that's the kind lincoln's about. to look and say, is this another out and thrust it at democrats trump moment where we're going as if it were a shield or a to risk our lives and give our ♪ lives and he's going to turn on us in the end and abandon us? sword. i believe in this, this is what this is a very grim moment in i -- i mean, it was constant. the history of this country. we all carried around these i hope that republicans can see constitutions and we all shoved it enough to join us in really it in people's faces telling them that we were more looking at this critically, and making sure the president self-righteous than they were on understands he does not have our the constitution. let me tell you where the support. >> senator, president trump's republican party is on the constitution right now, because negative view of ukraine has you're right. donald trump bragged yesterday mom you've got to [ get yourself a new car.g ] about taking a shot at the been, in part, shaped by the constitution and called the i wish i could save faster. constitution phony. you're making good choices. you'll get there. influence of the nation's he called the emoluments clause ♪ regional adversaries. president's fate if impeachment t sources tell "the washington phony in the is the same guy who president's fate if impeachment post" that trump's conversations said that article two gives me with russian president vladimir the power to do whatever i want. i know i can't afford to go. putin hungarian prime minister >> right. >> this is the same guy who had i still have this car so you can afford to go. stephen miller go on tv the president's fate if impeachment viktor orban and others the rer president's fate if impeachment first month of his presidency to thanks. say the president's power is principal. we can help you plan for that. start today at principal.com. ception of ukraine as a hopeless unlimited and must not be

corrupt country one that questioned. should reach the united states choosing a h and donald trump was thrilled should reach the united states undermines him in the election. with that performance. according to the post, the role also, willie, we talked about it molly: "that's why i choose a played by putin and orban was nurse practitioner for my family's ourselves over the past six primary care." months, this is the same described by closed-door david: "my np is accessible and president that talked about when takes the time to listen. testimony by investigators last i took over the country. i love my np." week by george kent. molly: "our np orders tests, kent cited the influence of >> right. >> when no president has ever makes the correct diagnoses and said that. those leaders as a factor that and also said when i took over prescribes the medications we need." helped sour trump on the david: "my name is david and i choose an np." president of ukraine, in the the military. and, of course, his argument months leading up to their july then was when i took over the molly: "my name is molly and we choose nps." 25th phone call. np: "consider an np. meanwhile, "the new york times" military they didn't even have visit we choose nps.org to learn more." reporting that orban's visit to the white house was opposed by bullets. this is an illiberal, most people think of verizon as a reliable phone company. both then national security (woman) but to businesses, adviser john bolton and fiona we're a reliable partner. incompetent, illiterate we keep companies ready for what's next. hill, trump's top russian president who poses, if you (man) we weave security into their business. analyst set. both thought that would be just -- if you take him by his virtualize their operations. perceived as a huge political words, poses a direct threat to (woman) and build ai customer experiences. the constitution of the united we also keep them ready coup for an autocratic leader states. for the next big opportunity. if you believe him, unless you like 5g. ostracized by peers in europe. almost all the fortune 500 partner with us. ultimately, the paper reports, think he's lying, unless you believe what he says is fake (woman) when it comes to digital transformation... the two were outmaneuvered by news, if you take him at his verizon keeps business ready. word, then his presidency is a ♪ mick mulvaney who supported such direct threat to the a meeting. senator, all roads lead to

constitution of these united putin, they seem to always end states that republicans used to carry around in their pocket. up there. >> i can tell you this president >> and, by the way, all those is enthralled by vladimir putin. examples you've laid out, he believes all of those things. his former kgb agent that those come from his heart. >> of course. >> he really believes that he invaded ukraine, just like the talks about my generals, it's invasion of georgia. his government and his country and the united states has at right now. i was thinking as it pertains to least toward by the ukrainian the emoluments clause in that people until this president came press conference he gave about a along. and then this president played week before his inauguration with almost $300 million in where there were these questions security aid that ukraine about him and his business. desperately needed to fight off he brought out an attorney and putin, played with it for the he had a pile of ma nanila fold so-called can you do me a favorite president zelensky conversation. that to me is despicable. with paper in them. he said this is how much likes are at stake. paperwork we have to do to i've been to ukraine a half separate me from my businesses. dozen time. he never did it. the first time i was there with thing to do would be to put it in a blind trust. john mccain. i know the price they're paying. his family is still running the business, there's no question the heroic people of ukraine about that. he's never separated himself from his businesses. fighting off putin and his so when he says the emoluments clause is phony, like all those invasion fathorces. other examples you listed, he and here is the president really means it. playing with their money to get >> and don't forget, joe, just dirt on the biden family. that, to me, is just outrageous. yesterday his latest successes, and i hope people on the

he articulated it in front of republican side will join democrats in doing so. the cameras p. >> senator, we're not in the me, i captured isis. habit of reading the president's >> by the way, guys, as we all right. we have an update on the health talked about isis this morning tweets. i'll characterize one he just being reported all over the of former president jimmy put out comparing the world that guess what isis is carter. the carter center tweeted this congressional impeachment doing now? inquiry to, quote, a lynching. they're assassinating local morning former u.s. president what's your reaction to that? leaders. they are consolidating their jimmy carter had a fall >> i can tell you that nancy power in local governments yesterday evening in his home in pelosi has handled this in a across the region. plains, georgia. they are beginning their he's been admitted to the pb calm professional manner. he's moving forward as we would comeback. they are beginning to rise expect her to as speaker of the sumpter medical center for again. observation and treatment of a house of representatives, this is a very serious moment until why? because as any military man or minor pelvic fracture. woman will tell you, united he's in good spirits and is history. overwhelmingly the people looking forward to recovering at believe an investigation is states man or woman will tell warranted. home. and this president's conduct you, isis is going to come back. carter received 14 stitches what he's openly admitted, what above his left eye after a and, willie, the crazy thing is different fall at his home mulvaney has admitted certainly the pentagon, the ig, issued a earlier this month. the next day he was back to give rise to this investigation. report about a month or two ago building homes for habitat for i want to thank you her for her warning of the coming rise of leadership. i look forward to what the house humanity in nashville. produces. and the president can do you aof isis. what did donald trump do? he did not miss that trip. the name-calling in his tweets the one thing that ensured their we wish him the best. that he wants to do. our prayers, of course, with the we're being driven by the rise again. carter family. constitutional requirements. >> yes. >> isis is coming back and as coming up, one >> senator dick durbin, thank you very much. congresswoman's effort to rachet hope to talk to you soon. lindsey graham said and as up next, award-winning actor republicans have been saying, when they come back, these up legislation combating foreign election interference ahead of and best-selling author john 2020.

republicans say the blood will "morning joe" is back in a moment. of be open donald trump's hands. 2020. "morning joe" is back in a moment. - [narrator] meet the ninja foodi pressure cooker their words, not mine. lithgow joins the conversation >> and president trump dug in with tender crisp technology. again yesterday on that decision neck with his brand-new defending it even as our troops the best of pressure cooking and air frying collection of trump-themed poe left the country and the kurds were pleading for them to stay. ems. more "morning joe" back in a are now in one pot. moment. we'll talk more about syria in a minute. meanwhile, democrats are said to ahhhh, it's a tiny dancer. be zeroing in on a framework for and only the ninja foodi has tender crisp technology, the impeachment case against they left a ton of stuff up here. so you can cook foods that are crispy on the outside president trump. multiple people familiar with and juicy on the inside. the deliberations telling nbc news democrats will focus on a simple abuse of power narrative you may never need another appliance ever again. involving the president's welp, enjoy your house. the ninja foodi pressure cooker. actions regarding ukraine. the pressure cooker that crisps. let's bring in nbc news nope. no thank you. correspondent heidi who has been geico could help you save on homeowners covering this story. aveeno® with prebiotic striple oat complex and renters insurance. heidi, what else did you find out and how have democrats balances skin's microbiome. geico could help you save - [narrator] forget about vacuuming for up to a month. settled on this narrow focus? so skin looks like this shark iq robot deep-cleans and empties itself >> i'm told by multiple and you feel like this. into a base you can empty once a month. individuals involved in this process that abuse of power aveeno® skin relief. and unlike standard robots that bounce around, really is the framework that get skin healthy™ it cleans row by row. if it's not a shark, it's just a robot. encompasses everything that the president did with regards to ukraine, whether it is pushing what?! i think i forgot to lock my buick. aside the ambassador, whether it is that phone call pressuring got it. i bet you lunch you can't make it in there. president zelensky to help him

investigate the bidens. i'm thinkin' sushi. whether it is withholding alexa, ask buick to start my suv. military aid, federally appropriated tax dollars, it all you can do that? you can do that? you can do that? yeah, with a buick. fits into that abuse of power what? narrative. now, i'm cautioned by the at the heart of every buick suv... is you. speaker's office that they have or current eligible yet to start drawing up this non-gm owners get 14 to 20 percent below msrp broad article that there is still a lot to be done in the on most of these buick models. way of discovery and collecting information. but at the same time, speaker my moderate to severe i ulcerative colitis.ing pelosi has been adamant behind my body is truly powerful. but i realized something was missing... closed doors really, quote, me. i have the power to lower my blood sugar and a1c. hammering this narrative. the thought of my symptoms returning and so this is something that is was keeping me from being there because i can still make my own insulin. going to kind of be a major for the people and things i love most. and trulicity activates my body to release it theme in the impeachment. so, i talked to my doctor and learned like it's supposed to. humira can help get, and keep, uc under control secondly, they're looking at how trulicity is for people with type 2 diabetes. they're going to frame the when other medications haven't worked well enough. it's not insulin. obstruction -- obstruction of and it helps people achieve control that lasts i take it once a week. it starts acting in my body from the first dose. congress and contempt of so you could experience few or no symptoms. trulicity isn't for people with type 1 diabetes congress aspect of this. that is still very much up in humira can lower your ability to fight infections, or diabetic ketoacidosis. the air because they believe including tuberculosis. don't take trulicity if you're allergic to it, they have the goods when it serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, comes to obstruction and you or your family have medullary thyroid cancer, including lymphoma, have happened; contempt of congress on ukraine. as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2. they have that october 9th serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. stop trulicity and call your doctor right away letter from white house counsel pat cipollone in which he said before treatment, get tested for tb. if you have an allergic reaction, a lump or swelling in your neck, we're not going to cooperate tell your doctor if you've been to areas

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...for a sensational full-fan effect. would be a separate article that they're debating right now how lash sensational. that would be framed. but they are looking at a very only from maybelline new york. narrow case when it comes to ukraine and when it comes to molly: my np spends a lot of with me and gives me a lot of attention which led to my diagnosis. abuse of power. now, again, i'm cautioned that they have yet to go to the stage she initiated tests and found out what was wrong. of legal drafting of anything. she's treated both my children since they were born. bridgette: i feel that my np cares but i've talked to a number of about me as a person and not just if i'm sick or not. constitutional law experts who say, look, this is simple. molly: and i really love my nurse practitioner because we have such this is the framework for an a strong connection. article as well. i know that whenever i call, and if you look at history, this is exactly what they did with she'll be there for me. my name is molly and we choose nps. richard nixon. there was the abuse of power and np: consider an np. when patients choose, patients win. then there were three articles, beyond the routine checkups. abuse of power, contempt of beyond the not-so-routine cases. congress, obstruction of congress. right now they've just decided on this abuse of power framing comcast business is helping doctors when it comes to what he did in provide care in whole new ways. all working with a new generation of technologies ukraine and they want to keep it narrowly focused on that. powered by our gig-speed network. but at the same time there's a because beyond technology... there is human ingenuity. he violates the constitution. george washington ran his lot of pushback within the business simultaneously while he caucus for that very reason there are a lot of stakeholders, was president. every day, comcast business is helping businesses george washington they say had a lot of committee chairmen and two desks. members who believe they've done go beyond the expected. a presidential desk and a a lot of good work when it comes to do the extraordinary.

to emoluments, for example, and take your business beyond. business desk. talk about self dealing, that that, too, is also a clear washington, not everybody knows violation of the constitution. this, washington put his picture but it's clear that this message is forming on the abuse of power on every dollar. narrative when you also look at can you imagine the royalties. the fact that the d triple c can you imagine? daddy got his baeak wet on ever just this past week put out i think most people are looking at what's going on in polling showing that even in battleground districts, 57 the house with interest. obviously with concern. dollar. joining us now, john lithgow. battleground districts, majority of people, and i want to read but ultimately we may well you this language, are either become a jury and if that's the very or totally convinced that case, i think people want to trump is, quote, abusing his make their own decision and not it is called "dumpty." authority and that lawmakers jump to any conclusions at this needed to, quote, uphold the early stage. we want to get a dramatic poetry rule of law. holding up funds to a foreign >> nbc's heidi, thank you very nation, particularly one that's reading from you in a moment, i under military threat in order want to start with another piece to fulfill a political purpose much for that report. that you wrote. still ahead on "morning is a real problem. in the op-ed titled trump is a joe," this sound bite is a month >> joining us now, member of the old, but worth listening to house judiciary committee and bad president but he is a worse the chairperson of the committee again. >> if there was election on the house administration cha entertainer. we are being forced to live in a interference that took place by b movie horror. the vice president, i think the american people deserve to know. we know there was interference from performances on the world in the 2016 election and and she proposed the shield act stage by winston churchhill,

fingerprint it's the caif it's which would close loopholes in they have rallied nations, the chase there was something the american election. going on with the president or and force campaigns to report defeat poverty, and you have had his family that caused a conflict of interest and vice president biden behaved in a way illicit foreign offers of that's inconsistent with the way win wars. assistance. we'll get to that in just a they should behave, i believe it took reagan to deliver the the american people should know moment. congre congresswoman, on impeachment, i wonder from where you stand, that. >> mike pompeo putting the focus does abuse of power appear to be on joe biden. the focus and where you are line of "mr. gorbachev, tear >> well, actually it applies to donald trump and that's very zeroing in on this president? >> well, it's really whether generous of him to say, which i down this wall." everyone loves a good vil on on guess he's supporting the he's been faithful to his oath impeachment inquiry now since he said that a month ago. of office to protect the screen and on stage, but cold >> yes. and why it's all a critical constitution and the country. question, critical to the i don't want to prejudge it, but question of a quid pro quo. hearted is not real. we'll have that coming up. the issue really is whether he you're watching "morning joe." used his power for his own we'll be right back. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. ♪ (dramatic orchestra) personal gain, instead of the we are reassured by knowing that good order of the united states. we're watching fiction. that's a serious charge. and, of course, we have the they want to bring an end to the intelligence committee primarily performance comes in lots of flavors. trump nightmare if not we have doing fact-finding on that at this point. to wait for quality drama and >> so, fact-finding, and let's accommodate ourselves to there's the amped-up, over-tuned, focus on the word "fact," continuing drama of b movie feeding-frenzy-of sheet-metal-kind. because we're in a weird place these days. horror. what do you see when he occupies and then there's performance that where you'll have, for example, just leaves you feeling better as a result. the white house chief of staff

come on television and say one the stage. >> why don't you just read all that's the kind lincoln's about. plus one equals two. of my boom. it would make this interview so sand then a day later, he will ♪ much easier for me. say i never said that. i loved that. it was just being misunderstood. now what was the question again? facts are hard to come by in the trump white house. >> when you see him performing and also getting people to testify can be difficult. as an actor what do you see? there are many who have been >> as a citizen i just sit there difficult witnesses or refused to do so. wanting to throw things at the what is the process that can get screen. he kind of drives me crazy as a performer. i think she a hous -- he is a l answers, that can allow for was in an accident. when i called usaa, oversight, that can allow for it was that voice asking me, the questions that you want "is your daughter ok?" that's where i felt relief. answered. what's the process to get to the answers more quickly, than performer, and the miraculous we're the rivera family months and months in the courts? and we plan to be with usaa for life. thing is that people adore him >> well, we are proceeding very for it. see how much you can save his fans can't get enough of it. with usaa insurance. quickly, as i think you've noticed. and i don't know. we have issued subpoenas. i'm an actor, i'm accustomed to they are in order. the congress has a right to get this information, especially now this paradox, things that i that we are looking at the can't stand are often very possibility of impeachment. successful. i wonder how shakespeare felt we in the past have gone to court. it's a lengthy process. >> yeah. >> so, at this point, we're not saying we'll never go to court.

as a matter of fact, we've got a number of cases pending right and everyone else was running to now. but under the law, ordinarily, bear baiting. people are crazy about conflict. in someone refuses to answer a they love to be -- to have their question on a factual matter, you can make an inference that they're hiding something. blood boil. and trump is very good at that. an adverse inference. and that's what i think we'll have to end up doing. >> the theme and the sub theme of a very interesting op-ed is a lot of the information, though, is in plain sight, as striking in a way. you mentioned. what you just mentioned for the people that listen to him, they with a colleague mick mulvaney, love him and they're certain a we didn't have to stop the movie. lot of people in this country it's like don't believe your lying eye what is i actually i didn't have to call an ambulance. said, i mean, come on. love him. could it be that maybe he is not and i didn't have to contact your family. >> that's incredible. as bad of an actor as we think, >> so, we'll proceed, and we because your afib didn't cause a blood clot will -- you know, the president you think, but that he practiced that led to a stroke. has his own twitter account and her perfect the art of acting as not today. his own reality. we'd discussed how your stroke risk increases over time, but there are actual facts that so even though you were feeling fine, we will determine. someone operating on the theme and then we'll proceed as of resentment and he sounds like we chose xarelto®, to help keep you protected. necessary. once-daily xarelto®, >> congresswoman, you introduced boy, this guy knows -- significantly lowers the risk of stroke in people with >> he is all -- he taps people. recently the s.h.i.e.l.d. act. afib not caused by a heart valve problem. >> i did. >> and you expect that there in fact, over 96% of people remained stroke-free. will be a vote on it in the next don't stop taking xarelto® without talking to your doctor, week to ten days, i understand? >> well, i'm hopeful we're going as this may increase your risk of stroke.

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case not just on biden's kid and the crooked company that his kid >> die-hards. i spent a year -- the thing is >> well, they've been fighting worked for, burisma, that was for a long time to get to this trump's administration has this done as a matter of record of point. extraordinary cast of still ahead, new polling characters, if you look at them october of 2016 after the guy shows hall of all voters in six as actors, roles to play, just got tanked, he also dropped it states support the impeachment look at them all. almost all of them are gone. inquiry into president trump. we'll dig into those numbers. on antack. and as president trump calls i wrote 33 pokes about -- the >> if there was election interference that took place by for unity among republican the vice president, i think the subject of each one is one of lawmakers in his defense, american people deserve to know. we know there was interference democratic senator dick durbin these bizarre characters, all in the 2016 election and if it's joins the conversation to gauge sentiment ahead of an but about three are long gong, impeachment trial in the senate. the case that caused a conflict you're watching "morning joe." of interest and vice president we'll be right back. biden behaved in a way that's ♪ fired or in prison or whatever. i knew about the tremors. inconsistent with the way i certainly had great material leaders ought to appropriate, i and my whole thing was, well, think the american people deserve to know that. street it in a kind of satirical >> what the president is talking about, however, there's a load of evidence that the ukrainians and smart ass way. created false information, that they were asked by the obama white house do it in january of that's what colbert, seth 2016, this is not about getting joe biden in trouble, this is meyers, and more are doing and it is the making of all of them and they're performing a about donald trump was framed by tremendous service.

the -- >> i do hope if vice president i think powerful satire is essential at moments like this. >> so give us a little taste. biden engaged in behavior that was inappropriate, if he had a >> the book is called "dumpty" conflict of evidence or had something that may have interfered in our elections in and there are three or four 2016, i do hope that we get to the bottom of that. >> so, was president trump and rudy giuliani's pressure on trumpty dump ty poems. ukraine also tied to former vice president joe biden? that's the question raised in a they run through in is the new piece entitled "the missing second one. link: getting dirt on biden was trumpty dumpty wanted a tower to a key part of the 2016 election show case his personal glory and two in" the target of biden's power, but putin came up with a devilish plot to exploit his ukraine investigation, quote, would be especially significant because it would connect this clear political objective to the dream. he ignored the possible labor of strongest eft strongest evidence of a quid pro quo involving the withholding of traitor. when ever their dealings were u.s. military tide ukraine. open to all -- joining us now, ryan goodman. >> is that your instrallustrati. he served as special counsel to the general counsel in the >> this is him on a power that but when i started seeing things, department of defense. and also editor and chief of law i didn't know what was happening... says in russian trump tower so i kept it in.

fair, benjamin whitness tis. he started believing things that weren't true. moscow. >> it's too long to read on air, i knew something was wrong... people who you were wrote poems but i didn't say a word. during the course of their disease around 50% of people with parkinson's about. four mean in a jeep no longer what's the connection you make may experience hallucinations or delusions. they look so annoyed, four in the piece? >> last week the national chief but now, doctors are prescribing nuplazid. generals all unemployed. of staff mick mulvaney admitted the only fda approved medicine... >> i just want you to read my there was this quid pro quo proven to significantly reduce material. hallucinations and delusions i don't even have to be here. between military aid and >> just come sit on the set, and related to parkinson's. pressing ukraine to investigate don't take nuplazid if you are allergic to its ingredients. the 2016 election. people have thought of that as not easy to rime with co nuplazid can increase the risk of death separate from pressing ukraine in elderly people with dementia-related psychosis to investigate biden and hunter biden's firm in ukraine and and is not for treating symptoms unrelated to parkinson's disease. burisma but the were to linked nuplazid can cause changes in heart rhythm in a common scheme under giuliani's conspiracy theory. and should not be taken if you have certain compremont. and giuliani is actually been >> we'll have to have you back abnormal heart rhythms or take other drugs because you have a film coming pressing this issue since march that are known to cause changes in heart rhythm. up in december that looks on twitter, on fox, multiple tell your doctor about any changes times on fox, and then pompeo as in medicines you're taking. incredible. with roger ailes. the most common side effects are >> yes, thank you for bringing you see in the video clips is swelling of the arms and legs and confusion. that up. mouthing the same theory. that is that the 2016 we spoke up and it made all the difference. >> "dumpty: the age of trump in investigation will also provide ask your parkinson's specialist derogatory information on biden. about nuplazid. so the two are linked in order verse." >> that does it for us this to actually try to damage one of morning, stefanie ruhle picks up trump's main political opponents. >> ben, we played those clips our coverage right now.

coming in, two people, mike >> thank you, it is tuesday, october 22nd and we have a lot pompeo, rudy giuliani talking to talk about this morning. extensively back and forth about a former vice president, joe first the president taking his biden and the ukrainian usual overthe top rhetoric to a whole other level. instead of calling the connection. last week to very little fanfare impeachment inquiry a witch there was a news story that hunt, this morning he is calling basically acquitted hillary it a lynching. clinton from any malevolent use bill taylor is expected to meet of private emails, basically saying there was no deliberate mishandling of the emails. but dad, you've got allstate. and yet that played a dominate with house investigators about factor, obviously, in the with accident forgiveness 30 minutes from now. they guarantee your rates won't go up election campaign in 2016. the two people, giuliani and just because of an accident. smart kid. indeed. remember, bill taylor was on pompeo we just heard insays are you in good hands? sently talked about something that text exchange. that is a figment of their and taylor was the one who raised red flags on whether or imagination. talk about, if you could, the damage that this has done, if not the united states was withholding military aid. fallacy, this concoction of a potential scandal that there will be more testimony legitimate people, semi legitimate people continue to tomorrow with other scheduled talk about and we continue to testimony coming after elijah cover. >> yeah. i mean, one of the things about conspiracy theories is that if

cummings funeral. you believe them, they do all we are lining up tend to merge together. and what ryan in this piece and his coauthor have done i think very effectively is show to a degree in the minds of rudy president obama, nancy pelosi, hillary clinton, shifty giuliani and secretary pompeo shifty, mitt romney. the digging dirt on biden whistle-blowers, phony scandal and the 2016 getting emoluments clause. joe biden and his son, a russian ukraine to investigate the agent. the president of the united states should be allowed to run the country, not have to focus so-called collusion with the democrats, which is itself a on this kind of crap. >> almost enough to fill a distraction from the real issue cabinet room. good morning, and welcome to which is the russian interference in the election on "morning joe." it is tuesday, october 22nd. behalf of donald trump have kind along with joe, willie and me, of merged together and are not we have msnbc contributor mike actually distinct in the minds of the people who are advancing barnicle. historian, author of "the soul it. i agree with you, mike, that the of america" and professor of the prevalence of conspiracy vanderbilt john meachem. theories often repeated, if you repeat them often enough become and pulitzer prize winning

very salient in election -- in the election context and very columnist of "washington post," damaging. political analyst eugene and it is quite independent of how much merit the theories may robinson. before we dive in, joe, a quick have. it's by dent of constant look around the world. repetition and constant emphasis canada's prime minister is still on top. that they become kind of a part of the way we think of the while israel's mrrm prime miniss people in question. and, you know, but her emails is on his heels. justin trudeau survived scandal kind of hillary clinton's middle name at this point. to get a second term. >> jon meacham. >> ben, a question for an benjamin netanyahu, to form a opinion as much as -- an opinion new government, opening the door about the facts in a slightly for his political rival. longer view. back here at home, president do you think from everything you trump says he's the victim of know and you know more than all the phony emoluments clause. that's a cute one. of us, that the evidence on an we'll start with new poll abuse of power article will be numbers, though, on the impeachment inquiry. half of voters in six states dispositive and convincing? that helped carry trump to not that the senate will vote to victory in 2016 say they support remove, but do you think a the house democrats' impeachment reasonable person becoming a inquiry into the president. juror in a trial in the ordinary according to the latest "the new courtroom in america would hear that evidence and come out york times"/college poll put the

thinking, yeah, he's guilty of support at 50% of voters, an impeachable and convictable florida, michigan, wisconsin, offense? >> yes, i do. north carolina and arizona, 45% but i've believed that since and say they oppose. framed exactly in terms of abuse >> willie, obviously, these of power since i learned about national polls that we hear time and time again, that they don't the meeting at which the president demanded loyalty of matter as much. this is an election that's going his fbi director in a personal to go down to five or six sense. states. i mean, i think the evidence of those states just named, florida, north carolina, abuse of power, if the question michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin and arizona is now in is would it be persuasive to an play for a lot of different reasons. not good news for the white house. not good news for re-election ordinary person of common sense numbers to be 50%. and judgment has been >> yes, "the new york times" dispositive on abuse of power lines up with national polls with respect to the president for a very long time. with the majority that support the harder question, it seems to the impeachment inquiry. me, is at what point does that michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania gave pretty trump evidence break through to the the election in 2016 with just communities of people that it under 78,000 votes deciding who the president would be. if he's under water, with those hasn't been persuasive to? and i think you're starting to voters as he is, by the way, not see that now in the poll data on just on the question of impeachment, but in those states impeachment. at large, generally, his numbers what you don't see is the poll

are upside down. data on that with respect to his if he loses those states, that general approval rating. could be the end of it for him, because that is, right there, there's still 40, 42% of the for all of the talk with what's happening in iowa, and new population that seems quite hampshire, those three states again likely will decide who the impervious to the degree to which this abuse of power has next president is, or whether he gets another term. taken place. including, i about the way, a lot of the senate. >> and gene, you look inside of these states, republican states so, yes, i think abuse of power staying loyal to the president, has taken place in a context in it doesn't matter that he rebuilds isis. which a reasonable member of the doesn't matter that he betrays house and a reasonable member of the senate should see it as israel. doesn't matter that he's asking impeachable and removable and i china to interfere in elections. think it is encouraging, none of it matters to these actually, if -- assuming that republicans. they're all in, they don't care the reporting you guys discussed how much he thrashes the constitution. earlier is correct, which i think it almost certainly is, i they don't care how many racist think it's encouraging that this statements he makes. they're with him. is the direction that the house the number to look at here are is thinking right now. the independents. >> exactly. >> so, ryan, if you go back to >> now up to 40%. that original summary of the as those numbers rise, and i phone call that the white house put up between presidents trump suspect they will rise as more and zelensky, biden got all the comes out as to how corrupt this headlines. but if you look at the summary president is, that's the before he got to biden,

president trump talked about president of the united states's crowd strike. biggest challenge, that the part this conspiracy theory that the biggest to re-elect the president. that's the biggest concern that independents are up to 39%. uskran holdi >> yeah, independents seem to be ukraine is holding this physical server. there are people talking about that on tv in the morning and trying to make that case about a fleeing the sinking ship in those battleground states. conspiracy theory. and in other states as well. there's a lot flying about out and why shouldn't they? there. i mean, you know, as we get to what do you think people should understand about that quid pro quo and what the president was talking about that day? understand what president trump >> so it's a really nutty did with ukraine, as we look at conspiracy if you start to try to pull back the layers. his day in and day out the idea is that not that russia interfered in our elections but rather ukraine did. performance as president and you always want to put president in >> right. >> and any republican that hitches themselves to that quotes because he's not acting in the way a real president wagon, they're hitches themselves to the idea that paul manafort was framed, prosecuted, tried, convicted but framed. acts. i think you're going to see so the idea that crowd strike independents continue to leave was involved in that, the idea that there's this organization the trump train. and where that leaves president that is an anticorruption trump is out of luck. i mean, there's just no way he organization in ukraine produced can win with those kinds of a false black ledger which was entered into court, that's where that ends up. numbers, especially given trend and then the bizarre part of it

is this rudy giuliani/mike line. and i haven't -- you know, there's a core of republicans pompeo theory that's out there who are going to stick with him, no matter what. which they say when joe biden but when you hear, you know, the got the first prosecutor in ukraine removed and replaced with a new one, he deep sixed occasional discouraging word the investigation into how ukraine was really involved. even from republican senators that's what the president is now, specifically, you have to asking the president of ukraine to concoct. it's not to dig up dirt, it's to create dirt and create this idea wonder, even whether the sort of that doesn't exist. it's talking about biden if you republican fire hold, firewall, understand what giuliani's scheme is up to. is going to continue intact. and when the president says to zelensky four or five times, coordinate with giuliani, that's or he's going to have problems what giuliani is telling them. there as well. he's saying, go into this crowd strike idea, go into this ukraine was involved, you're >> joe, mika, i would add on the predecessors were involved in questions of independents on the 2016 election and joe biden, this poll, 51% of independents joe biden is the one who support the inquiry. actually has prevented this from the majority of independents in coming out. >> and at president holding up those six battleground states taxpayer-funded military 8 as a condition of that. believe they see something they do you have any doubt in your don't like on the question of mind as a former defense ukraine. but there is that question out department attorney that the there, just going to allenate president was seeking a quid pro

quo? >> i have no doubt in my mind. and it seems as though the moderate voters in those states. a majority of them believe ambassador sondland didn't have a doubt in his mind. there's something to look into he told the republican senator here. >> something to always remember, mika, that we always have to remember is, when a pollster john -- ron johnson the same idea. calls up and says do you support >> yeah. >> and mulvaney admitted to it. the president do you not support there's also reporting from "the the president, a lot of people wall street journal" they went in their tribes, they go to the and met with the folks from corner. >> yeah. ukraine and the officials on the >> and don't always say what receiving end of this, they will they think. perceived it in september as just like people used to be being a quid pro quo. and it's not just holding up ashamed to admit they support u.s. taxpayer month, bey, but t donald trump. in fact, nobody would admit to us when we went around and gauge 40 million ukrainians at the talks. nobody would admit that they voted for donald trump. doorstep. >> and mick mulvaney said get at one point, i'd say you're all over it. coming up, another new poll out since the start of the show lying. because you all voted for him. that shows growing support for stop lying. impeaching president trump and and they would say, yeah. removing him from office. as donald trump exits stage we'll dig into the new numbers left, i suspect we'll see the next on "morning joe." we'll dis next on "morning joe." same thing where people are reluctant publicly to say they can't put up with him anymore. i had the funniest conversation

in florida a month ago. he knew i was on tv but he this fall, book two, separate qualifying stays didn't watch the show much because he got up golfing. at choicehotels.com... he goes, weren't you a ...and earn a free night. republican congressman? because when your business is rewarding yourself, yeah, yeah, i was. our business is you. and had no idea that i had book direct at choicehotels.com problems with donald trump. he goes what are we going to do (alarm beeping) with that guy? welcome to our busy world. i can't stand the democrats, i where we all want more energy. but with less carbon footprint. can't stand hillary, i can't can we have both? stand elizabeth warren. at bp, we're working every day but, man, he's out of control. to make energy that's cleaner and better. we need mike pence in the white and we see possibilities everywhere. house. he went on and on and on. and i felt -- willie, you'll remember this, i felt like i was eddie murphy in that scene where everybody thought he was white and he went behind the scenes to see what happened. went around and sadly he found out that bankers gave white people money and didn't make them sign loans or anything like that. it was a peek behind the goldi knows to never compromise. curtain. they say 92% there in supporting too shabby! donald trump and not wanting the too much! impeachment inquiry, but, mika,

too perfect! it's actually the fear and loathing is rising. i can rent this? for that price? and that is something that republican members of the hill absolutely. what is this, some kind of fairy tale? are picking up on. >> and you would think the it's just right! president would be focused on those people and those numbers. book your just right rental at thrifty.com. but he's actually focused on republican lawmakers. oh! baby bear! chastising them for not sufficiently defending him in the escalating impeachment fight. during a cabinet meeting yesterday, he urged member es of his party to get tougher and fight while pointing the finger at one of his most outspoken creditic critics, senator mitt romney. >> i think politicians with lousy policies they want open boarders they don't care about crimes. don't care about drugs. i think they're lousy politicians. but two things they have, they're vicious and they stick together. they don't have mitt romney in their midst. they don't have people like that.

the republicans have to get tougher and fight. we have some that are great fighters. but they have to get tougher and fight. because the democrats are trying to hurt the republican party for the election. >> mike barnicle, by the way, before we just talk about what he said there. i have to correct two things. just blatant lies. saying democrats don't care about board rders for those wit ears to hear, understand this, when barack obama left office, the number of illegal border crossings were at a 50-year low. a half century low. i was playing tee ball in doriville, georgia, and meridian, mississippi, the last time border crossings were as low as they were when barack obama left office. so open borders? not quite. it's donald trump that has caused the crisis at the southern border and made it much worse. same thing with crime. new york city, crime is lower

now than it's been since the 1950s before i was born. they have to just make up numbers because they don't have statistics to compare to how safe it was when barack obama left office. but, mike, i want to talk about this loyalty issue. he's knocking mitt romney. i thought it very interesting, very interesting, that senators are being a little more careful in not attacking mitt romney. senators aren't rushing to donald trump's side. they don't know for the first time how this is going to play out. they're not so sure for the first time that donald trump is shoot a man on fifth avenue and getaway with it. in fact, they're thinking this guy may be going down. i'm going to protect my political career because trump's not going to make it. >> yeah, you know, joe, united states senators, members of congress and the house, they go home and they speak to people. and you find out, we were just ♪ talking about those poll numbers, correct? when you go home, you walk

49 past the hour. a live look at the white house. around, you talk to people, usually the basis for a poll or gene robinson, your latest response to a poll is a column in the "washington post" is entitled trump likely saw knowledge, somewhat limited maybe, but of the presidency in total. the presidency in total now is, pelosi's overseas trip as a slap in the face. what, three years for donald but someone had to do it. trump. and in it you write in part except that is no longer how this, last week's viral photograph of house speaker respondents to polls, potential nancy pelosi pointing her finger voters, respond to them. at president trump and reading him the riot act reflected a they respond to his presidency, larger reality. what did he do today. so, it's tough to get an if trump won't responsibly lead assessment, i think, from the nation, pelosi will. pollsters on people they poll, because they're looking at a over the weekend, she led a presidency that is so mercurial congressional delegation to reassure u.s. allies in jordan that he's liable to say something later this morning and afghanistan. that will dominate the news for somebody had to tell the leaders the entire day. who have thrown their lot with he does it each and every day so the united states that there's no real measurement of washington hasn't forgotten its his progress as president other than what he does by the moment. friends or fore saken its it's a crazy, crazy presidency. i think republican senators are responsibility. in an administration that operates like a television reality show, pelosi's trip was going to be a dominant force in effective counterprogramming. his election process because for trump, this may be the most more and more of them -- listen, unsettling development of all. joe, we all know privately, in he's not the only one in town

the cloak room, they speak very who knows how to steal the spotlight with a well-timed disparaging of him. if there was a secret ballot in surprise. the united states senate, i gene, nancy pelosi is proving think trump would lose 90-10 maybe. >> mike, if there were a secret herself to be brilliant on so many levels. she herself will say the way you ballot in the senate this morning, mike pence would be win a negotiation is to have president by noon. supreme knowledge of the facts, >> yes, yeah. and she does. >> that is -- it is that clear. she also has incredible energy they want trump out. and resolve. i mean, this is -- she just lost they want mike pence in. they want to return to her brother unexpectedly in the conservative principles. they want to return to is a very difficult time. conservative issues. >> they want one day where and she's sailing through and hitting all the right notes. they're not asked questions they >> yeah. i thought that the trip that she can't answer. one day. >> yeah. took last weekend to jordan and they want to talk about policy, instead of donald trump trying to loot the federal treasury, to afghanistan was just striking because here was the -- after make hundreds of thousands of dollars on the scottish resort, all, the number three official in the united states, you have the president, the vice on his irish resort, on his president, and then the speaker of the house going to do what somebody had to do. miami bed-b bug ridden resort. to deliver the message that the united states has not lost its still ahead, president trump

mind, that we have a president lashes out at the u.s. who doesn't believe in our constitution. that's next on "morning joe." traditional alliances, who doesn't believe in the commitments that we have made, who is erratic, who is, you know, no telling what he has done and look what he did to the kurds. but, we're still here. there's still -- there's still the united states that you knew. and, you know, it struck me that it's almost like -- almost like a parliamentary system where you have a prime minister going out to run the -- you know, do the business of running the this fall, book two, separate qualifying stays government. that's what nancy pelosi was at choicehotels.com... doing. >> jon meacham, what are the ...and earn a free night. parallels in history to a moment because when your business is rewarding yourself, like this where a trip like this our business is you. is taken and reassurances are book direct at choicehotels.com not sent from the top, the very top? >> not a lot that spring to my hour 36 in the stakeout. as soon as the homeowners arrive, mind, anyway. we'll inform them that liberty mutual

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and newt gingrich talking together about figuring out how to contaim tain saddam hussein. at that time they're concerned about saddam hussein's weapons of mass destruction. >> gene robinson, go ahead. >> no, geeb, thank you so much. ♪ we appreciate you being with us welcome back. and still ahead, despite a hasty president trump defended his original decision to host the g7 summit at his private resort in withdraw, president trump says he's planning to keep some miami yesterday. while taking a shot at the troops in northern syria, not because of the criticism he's constitution's, quote, phony emoluments clause. faced over abandoning the kurds, >> it would have been great. instead, he wants them there to but the democrats went crazy, guard oil. plus, senator minority whip even though i would have done it free, save the country a lot of dick durbin will be our best money. this morning. but then they say, oh, you'll you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. ning. you're watching "morning joe." get promotion. we'll be right back. who cares, you don't think i get fights cancer, enough promotion? i get more promotion than any repairs shattered bones, relieves depression, human being that's lives. i don't think you people with restores heart rhythms, this phoney emoluments clause. helps you back from strokes, by the way, i would say it's and keeps you healthy your whole life. cost me anywhere from 2 to $5

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them, me. >> welcome back to "morning to what extent he's been acting joe." >> well there are actually -- >> it's hard -- consciously, or deliberately, at >> this actually goes back, the behest of a foreign power willie, to what we were talking even. and i use that word advisedly. about before, a president who actually has no understanding of he represents the world view in a way far more clarity and checks and balances. he says he has the power do efficiency than he represents everything. he talks about the time when he the american view. took over the military, when he that's just a clinical took over the government. observation. the framers put that article in article two gives him power do the constitution because they feared moments like this. whatever he wants to do. they thought they'd be dealing he talks about the military like with it with somebody like aaron burr, being bought off by it's his play thing, like it's some hotel that he owns in the oppressions or something. and it took awhile, 2 1/2 caribbean. but the fact is, that he not centuries. and it was a prescient moment. only inherited a plan from it was prescient for this reason. barack obama, but -- back up we the founders understood in the actually had military men and way that we're conscious of that we're simple, frail and sinful women moving forward in a positive direction before he got and phallical. there. now, though, you have him we're going to screw things up undercutting all of those gains more than we get them right. to the point where lindsey

graham has said he will hold and on the basis they would need donald trump permanently checking that bet on human accountable for the rise of isis and also say that any blood from nature which in some ways is a the kurds, the blood will be on bet against human nature has been proven right. the hands of donald trump. coming up on "morning joe," and that blood is already spilling in syria. the question isn't whether >> yeah. he talks about the phony pundits democrats are moving to impeach and the phony pundits are around donald trump, but, rather, how many articles they're going to him in the white house. hit him with that. people who disagreed with his there are new developments on decision in the senate, people that front. who have been allied with him, as you mentioned, senator and nbc's heidi prez bibill has lindsey graham, general mattis has been against this. i mean, it's widespread. it's not, you know, a small kaud that. (contemplative synth music) dr cadre of people on tv saying it's a bad decision. i think he knows, he jumped off a phone call with erdogan, made a unilateral decision. he's seen the outrage and the video of our troops moving out of country as the kurds plead with them to stay and throw rocks and tomatoes at our american flags as they leave the country. there's something else going on if you watch that cabinet meeting yesterday, and that is

this incredible complex he has about president obama. me, me, me. he should have been impeached, president obama should have been impeached. what about his netflix deal? of course that came after the president left the white house. he was projecting so much about obama. >> why do you think he's so - [narrator] forget about vacuuming for up to a month. shark iq robot deep-cleans and empties itself small, so insecure when it comes into a base you can empty once a month. to barack obama? what is it about barack obama and unlike standard robots that bounce around, it cleans row by row. that makes donald trump feel like he's less of a man when in if it's not a shark, it's just a robot. his presence? >> i don't know what it is except that maybe president obama had higher approval ratings or perhaps engenders more good will from the american people than president trump does or, as a comparison to president trump by many people look back upon fondly. i don't think -- i think he's always had a complex about president obama, the historic nature of president obama. >> crowd size. >> crowd size, as mika says. but it was all laid out there. if you watch the whole thing, he

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happened, he said -- lindsey's if i met another veteran, exact quote was that it was a, and they were with another insurance company, i would tell them, you need to join usaa quote, stain on america's honor. because they have better rates, and that is, of course, as you and better service. we're the gomez family... know, that is a feeling that is we're the rivera family... shared by most republicans on we're the kirby family, and we are usaa members for life. capitol hill, even if they aren't saying it out loud like get your auto insurance quote today. lindsey. >> on today's front pachblingt "washington post," my colleague and i dig into the republican scene right now and how it's not about the media outcry about syria, it's about the republican outcry on syria. that dynamic is changing the republican relationship with president trump as we speak. because when i'm on capitol hill right here steps away, they're saying to me privately, top republicans, they were with the president and still with him publicly on the impeachment ...6, 7, 8 front, but the syria issue has ♪ broken up a new opening for them ♪ to criticize this president. ♪ and then had they watch him at big dreams start with small steps... his news conference, that cabinet meeting of sorts yesterday, they become alarmed and they're talking to each ...but dedication can get you there. other about maybe a new

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vladimir putin and the russian really the framework that sds. he is going to help reconstitute encompasses everything that the president did with regards to isis. and he has now given the ukraine. whether it is pushing aside the iranians a shot to have that ambassador. or whether it is that phone call land bridge where they desperately wanted the land pressuring president zelensky to bridge to. help him investigate the bidens. hezbollah and other terror whether it is withholding groups that continue to tear military aid, federally appropriated tax dollars. it all fits into that abuse of rise isra power narrative. i'm cautioned that they have yet terrorize israel. what's hurt israel. to start drawing up this broad he's hurt the kurds, or biggest article. that there's still a lot to be done in the way of discovery and ally. and he's hurt our allies across that region. collecting information. this is a big issue. but at the same time, speaker this is a monumental mistake. so it does make sense that republicans are upset. pelosi has been adamant behind how are they dealing with this a week later, seeing all the chaos closed-door, really, quote, before them? hammering this narrative. >> right. and it's not going away, joe. so this is something that is going to be kind of a major it's striking to me how theme in the impeachment. secondly, they're looking at how republicans have reacted to this they're going to frame the in a way that they did not and obstruction -- obstruction of have not been reacting to the congress and contempt of impeachment inquiry. in talking to republicans over congress aspect of this. the past couple of weeks, sure, that is still very much up in the air. there are concerns about where because they believe they have the inquiry could go and, yes, the goods when it comes to

it's another trump scandal, if obstruction and contempt of you will, that they're having congress on ukraine. having to deal with. but they did not have that much they have that october 9th concern about the long term letter from white house council political ramifications of impeachment in and of itself. this syria issue is a whole p.a.t. simponi who says we're other matter. this gets to the heart for so many republicans, especially in not going to cooperate with the senate, but also we've seen in the house for what they anything. or are they going to question believe and the kind of foreign policy the united states needs to prosecute. not only is there long term from the mueller case because concern about the damage to the they couldn't get the main u.s. standing, especially witness, don mcgahn who was at the heart of the obstruction in regarding how we deal with our terms of making these adversaries in beijing, tehran, allegations against the president to testify against the and moscow, but just the fact of president. >> heidi, it's gene robinson. a diminished u.s. influence that can cede ground to a lot of so, are you saying that pelosi these countries that would like is looking at just a single article of impeachment? to run things a whole lot or would there be more than one differently than we do. and in talking to them, it makes article under this abuse of it harder, they will tell you, power framework? because i mean, just to me, i to defend him on the front lines wonder how they could leave out of impeachment, which they actually in a way want to do. or they're at least willing to the obstruction of congress, and sign up for that. the obstruction of justice.

and while republican aides have and maybe some of the bribery and emoluments questions. talked privately, republican senators have been very open. and republican senators that >> they're not all in looking at often go out of their way not to leaving out obstruction and criticize the president. i think for a lot of people that contempt of congress, gene. have focussed on what mitt that would just be a separate article that they're debating romney had to say, not right now, how that would be insignificant, and a couple of framed. but they are looking at a very others in interviews over the past week you've seen mitch narrow case when it comes to ukraine. and when it comes to abuse of mcconnell, john thune, marco power. now, again, i'm cautioned that they have yet to go to the stage rubio, senators that this gone out of their way that trump is of legal drafting of anything. but i talked to a number of trump, i'm not getting in the middle of that fight. and so we've seen over the past constitutional law experts who say, look, this is simple. few years foreign policy is the this is the framework for an one area where they've been article as well. and if you look at history, this willing to jab at the president. is exactly what they did with we saw it in 2017 with richard nixon. legislation and veto proof to there was the abuse of power. prevent the president from and then there were three making deals with putin without articles. abuse of power, contempt of congressional sign off. but they are just perplexed. congress, obstruction of of everything i've seen them congress. right now, they've just decided deal with when it comes to on this abuse of power framing trump, they've been upset, when it comes to what he did in angry, or raised their hie eyebrows, i think this is the f ukraine. and they want to keep it narrowly focused on that. but at the same time, there's a

lot of pushback within the caucus right now, gene, for that seen. it's apoulg. >> half of americans support very reason. president trump's impeachment. there are a lot of stakeholders, according to the latest msnbc a lot of committee members who srs poll, 50% of americans said believe they did a lot of good that trump would be impeached work when it comes to and -- should be impeached and emoluments, for example, and that, too, is also a violation removed from office. up three points since last of the constitution. month. but it's clear that this message is forming on the abuse of power 43% disagree. that's down two points. now those who support narrative. when you also look at the fact impeachment include 6% of that the dccc put out polling republicans, half of independents, and 80% of showing in 57 battleground democrats. moving on, those numbers echo districts, a majority of people, the latest "new york times" and i want to read you this siena college poll that puts language, are either very or support for the house totally convinced that trump is, impeachment inquiry at 50% of quote, abusing his authority. and that lawmakers need to, voters in pennsylvania, florida, quote, uphold the rule of law. michigan, wisconsin, north coming up acclaimed actor carolina, and arizona, 45% say john lithgow is standing by. they oppose. he's out with a new book with an >> and, jon meacham, we've unmistakable name. talked about this before but the the inspiration behind his new numbers make it all the more striking when you look at those

polls and see how closely they collection. match up with a fox news poll next on "morning joe." hi, i'm dave. i supply 100% farm-fresh milk for lactaid. from last week that had 51% of americans believing that donald trump should not only be impeached, back up that he should be removed from office. it wasn't until the very end when the tapes came out and all of the information came out about richard nixon that americans bolted away from nixon the way they did. this is happening now, very quickly after the ukrainian revelations and one suspects those numbers for independents are only going to go higher. >> yeah. you know, they were late to leave nixon and they never left clinton, which is interesting. if i were in the trump white house, that would be a really striking thing to ponder. that -- i don't think the polls ever got there with president clinton. happitor proved wrong. but his approval rating i think i'm right, had almost never been higher than on the day he was

impeached. two things. i think one of the truest sentences spoken in the past ten days or so in american life was by speaker pelosi when she said, all roads with you lead to putin. all roads lead to putin and they all lead to obama with president trump. and those are the architypes in his head. you can't always -- you can't tell what's in someone's heart, but the fact that barack obama was an african american who became president and became a pretty popular relatively popular president and that donald trump rose to power in this nationalist phase as someone questioning the legitimacy of that president, i think is one of the reasons he returns to that trope when he's in trouble. because he thinks that of that 43% or so who don't want him

impeached, some significant portion of those folks have a similarly impervious view of barack obama. i think we should be honest about that. if we aren't honest about it we can't fight against this struggle we have between our better angels and worst instincts. opinion is moveable on this, it seems to me, and i would also say that in this hyper partisan age, 50% is -- that would have been 60% in the old days. >> yeah. >> and so when you get 50% of americans to agree on anything, that's a pretty remarkable they understand what's right and wrong here and that, i think, was a little bit lost in the mueller report given thoulg thot took for it to come out, what the republicans were able to do including the attorney general. in this case the white house has adds mitted to it, the chief of staff has admitted to it.

they put out a memo admitting to it and people are going, no, that's wrong. >> and it's being driven by democrats and independents. 40% of independents. only 6% of republicans, and that number is going to have to get hyper, and i suspect it will get higher as time moves on. but, you know, mike barnicle, ed luce had a column last week where he was talking about -- it was actually along the same lines of what nancy pelosi said, that all roads lead to putin. everything always goes back to putin. and ed luce with the financial times said rope mans judges had a question, who benefits? who benefits? if republicans are scratching their head over the syria decision, the kurd decision, then ask the question, who benefits?

the answer's very clear. vladimir putin. vladimir putin for the first time in 1970 -- for the first time since 1973, russia has a foothold in the middle east. that foothold degree exponentially stronger with donald trump beating a speedy retreat out of syria and doing absolutely nothing to check russia's power there. who benefits? assad who vladimir putin has been propping up for years now. even though he killed 500,000 people, the russians actually bombed four hospitals within a 24-hour time period. hospitals with patients in them reported "the new york times." who benefits? putin. because assad now is, ed luce points out, cements in syria. who benefits? putin. because turkry, who's leader

erdogan is going to russia, turkey now builds a closer relationship to russia. and as ed points out, it may -- it just may be that turkey will decide to leave nato and actually create a strategic partnership with whom? france? no. germany? no. with vladimir putin. who benefits from all of this? vladimir putin and russia. nancy pelosi was right, all roads lead back to putin. >> it's chilling. >> and as we speak, joe, today, the last day of the supposed ceasefire or pause, whatever you want to call it, the pause concludes today at the end of the day, putin and erdogan are meeting in sochi right now, today. and the numbers that we showed about impeachment, there's such volatility in the american electorate, the numbers, 50%, i don't know, i don't know about those numbers given the volatility of the american

electorate. but susan agpage, let me ask yo when you put impeachment on the table and talk about putin and the impact that he has had on this country, on our elections and on clearly the president of the united states, what do you hear in washington about a theme that i hear a lot about from talking to people in washington and it is this, that one -- one of the big negatives that weighs upon elected officials, even republicans, is the president of the united states seemingly slowly stripping away at the credibility and character of the american commitment in the globe -- around the globe. >> you know, you really hear, mike, some weariness on the part of the president's defenders. i think this is something that president trump himself is recognizing. i think one reason he reversed himself on having the g7 summit at his own resort in miami is because he realized he really needs his defenders to defend

him on impeachment more. so he gave up something that they were not defending him on. and one of the things that strikes me about these poll numbers is the velocity of the change. you know, it was only a month ago this week that "the washington post" reported that there was a whistleblower complaint. that the house democrats wanted to get a hold of. and in that space of time, we now see 50% of independents saying they support not just an impeachment ib quirenquiry and t the impeachment of the president, but his removal from office. that's an extraordinary change. one last thing. when the president's defenders talk about impeachment, they tend not to defend him on the actions that he is accused of taking, they defend him on process that the impeachment inquiry isn't fair, that there aren't white house attorneys allowed, that the republicans aren't getting a fair chance to answer questions, that there's not a public -- that we don't know who the original

whistleblower is. that is a bad sign for the president as you look ahead to what we are sure will be public hearings, probably next month on this impeachment inquiry. and a vote likely to take place in the house in december. >> and, bob costa, on this question of impeachment, the stated explicit plan from the white house, as you know, was to stonewall the investigation. they wrote it in a letter that was made public and sent to congress. we're not going to give you anything. but that's not working because fiona hill has gone up and testified. ambassador yovanovitch has testified. gordon sondland has testified. and this morning at 9:30, the leading diplomat in ukraine at the time, bill taylor is going to be on the hill. bill taylor is not one of president trump's lackeys, he's not a hotel guy who gave a million dollars to the inaugural campaign. he's a graduate of the military academy, served in vietnam. he served under a number of presidents. a serious guy who likely will sit down and tell the truth. you'll remember that bill taylor is the guy who said it was,

quote, crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign. he wanted to say the russians will love it and i will quit. >> turns out many of the administration officials, people working in the national security space, they're not following mr. cipollone's director or signing on to his letter. many administration officials who are talking to the post and others say they don't want to defy a congressional subpoena because they want a career after president trump is gone and they want to protect our own reputation and integrity, so they're willing to sit down and they expect more top officials to sit down and put their hand in the air and uphold the constitution and tell the truth. the challenge for this white house right now is not only on the legal and congressional front, it's also on the political front. i can't tell you the number of text messages, phone conversations from republicans who say this president is a one-man war room and he's not communicating any kind of strategy to congressional republicans. congressional republicans who want to be defend him.

the freedom caucus group who is there ready to go on the barricade for him but they don't know what all the facts are and what the white house wants them to say die day. instea day to day. instead, it's the president lashing out against president obama, criticizing others and not giving his own party a strategy and a playbook. >> you know, david drucker, you wrote a fascinating piece about what happens if donald trump stays? but the republican senate actually goes because they're threatened by impeachment. and it's a brilliant insight and something that nobody's looked at. just like nobody looked at republicans doing as well as they did in '16, actually holding seats in a presidential election year in wisconsin and pennsylvania. nobody saw that coming. but with joni ernst in a state where trump's upside down by

double digits. cory gardner, probably one of the most threatened incumbents up in '20, along with susan collins in may, martha mcsally, she's going to be in for a tough fight in arizona. her opponent has more money on hand than joe biden. go to north carolina, thom tillis. tom it will lis mto lis may be never can be sure if it's a rough year. thom tillis would be swept out to sea. talk about that scenario. >> i'm not sure what everybody on all sides of this appreciates, it's all uncertain impeachment is for everybody. i think it's something mitch mcconnell recognizes and it's why he'd like to get this thing off the table before they get too deep into 2020 if it were up to him. and so while there's a lot of pressure on democrats, because they're the ones that are making the case and they're the ones that are going to have to convince the american public that the case for impeachment is solid and warranted, for republicans who have felt like

democrats were over their skis and risked blowback especially in difficult swing districts, there's a chance because of how the senate map is laid out, colorado, arizona, north carolina where tillis is facing a tough primary and some other battleground states where all of the sudden the senate majority which looked pretty firm starts to get itself nao trouble. why? in part if you're cory gardner or martha mcsally, on the one hand a vote for protecting bruf president trump in an impeachment trial is the kind of thing you want to do to keep the republican base happy and it's the vote that sends to voters that you don't have enough distance from the president, a president that a lot of the votes disagree with and you end up in this no-win situation. so the bullets in impeachment could fly in all sorts of directions and a republican senate that did not look in

particular danger could all of the sudden start to be in real trouble if the democrats can lay out a case against the president that is compelling and it comes out like that in a senate trial. you're not going to get the votes to remove the president from office. you're simply not going to come up with 20 republican snar senato senators in part because so many of them are supportive of the president, but there are just enough vulnerable republicans that in these battlegrounds that it becomes problematic. doug jones in alabama, but i think republicans could be in more peril than they believed heading into the impeachment inquiry and i think as susan mentioned, there's a reason why republicans are focussed so much on process. it's because there is enough associated with what the president has said in that call alone that is problematic.

>> you're right, david. all right. well thank you so much. >> thank you, david. >> and, boy, great insight that when you get to impeachment, the political bullets do fly in all directions. there is no planning it up. david, thanks so much for being with us as always. >> thank you. >> bob costa, what are you working on today? >> i'm going up to the capital because i want to talk to these republican senators, joe. as they deal with syria, the president, and impeachment, so many different issues confronting them. and we talked to them publicly and say it's on the record, they're still with this president. but they have to prepare for a trial. and if you're senator ernst or you're senator collins or senator gardner and senator tillis and your career is on the line in 2020, and you're not getting any cues from this white house, what are you actually going to do? is there going to be some kind of negotiation you have with this white house to figure out what it takes to get you to acquittal? and that's a fluid situation on

capitol hill and it's worth more reporting so that's where i'm going. the president can't be quiet. >> no. >> every day he -- you know, like yesterday, for instance, yesterday he goes out and he brags about taking a jab at the united states constitution and calls it, quote, phony. >> think there's some republicans who could have a problem with that. just might. >> well, they had -- >> they had a big problem in the house. they walked him back from the g7 decision. those house moderates. that's no small deal when house republicans are saying to their own president, enough. >> you're right. bob costa. >> robert costa, thank you very much. still ahead on "morning joe," it's one of the more interesting dynamics in politics right now, evangelicals have a champion in mike pence, yet many, even in the face of the president's potential impeachment, still stand behind donald trump. "new york times" reporter jeremy

peters dives into that next on "morning joe." into that next n "morning joe." >> it would have been great, but the democrats went crazy. even though i would have done it free, save the country a lot of money. then they say, oh, but you'll get promotion. who cares. you don't think i get enough promotion? i get more promotion than any human being that's ever lived. i don't think you people were with this phony emoluments clause, by the way, i would say that it's cost me anywhere from 2 to $5 billion to be president. that's okay between what i lose and what i could have made, i would have made a fortune if i just ran my business. i was doing it really well. i w

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