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"politicsnation." tonight's lede, a country divided. this week the house of representatives formally voted on rules and regulations to move forward with this impeachment inquiry. and that vote tally laid bare that there is no topic more divisive right now than this one. it was a nearly-complete party line vote, 232 democrats in favor of impeachment and 196
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lawmakers against. and that partisanship is also playing out in the public. the latest abc news washington post polls show similarly that the large majority of democratic voters, 82%, want trump impeached and removed from office. and the same percentage of republicans do not. back in washington house democrats are still meticulously building their case, gathering a mass of damning evidence while the president's republican allies are unwavering and continue to have his back. that could possibly change soon when more evidence comes out as speaker nancy pelosi says public hearings could start as soon as this month. last night the president went after her and other top democrats for continuing to pursue impeachment at a campaign rally in mississippi. >> now corrupt politicians
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pelosi and shifty adam schiff, shifty, and the media are continuing with the deranged impeachment witch hunt. this is one i never thought i'd be involved in. the word impeachment, to me it's a dirty word, not a good word. totally phony deal. they know it, everybody knows it. and that's why we've never had greater support than we have right now. it's true. [ cheers ] >> summed up, democrats, including 2020 candidates, say impeachment may not be the best path forward and we should let voters decide the president's fate. >> i think the impeachment process is based on a constitutional standard and needs to run its course correspondingly. i will say that there would be a lot of benefit to trump and trumpism getting a resounding,
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thumping defeat at the ballot box because i think that's what will be required for congressional republicans to be reunited with their conscience. democrats have an impeachment obsession, they say, that is hurting the american people and they might be right. but contend having a con man in the oval office hurts them just as much. joining me now is christine quinn, former vice chair of the new york state democratic party. let me start with you. the president says they have more support than ever, but looks like his support is about where it was. he's not going down to the chagrin of democrats, but unlikely when he said in mississippi last night, he's not going up either. >> yeah. so the white house will point to some battleground polls that suggest more than the national
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polling that impeachment and the removal process in particular are very unpopular, more unpopular than they are popular. nationally it's a little bit more like job approval, job approval rating pretty much mirrors what we're seeing in these polls that if you approve of the president in office, you don't support impeachment. if you don't, you do. that suggests the dynamic is not so much about the facts of impeachment but the trump presidency broadly. that introduces a messaging challenge to democrats. they have to make impeachment as a political process and make a concerted political effort to convince the republic who might be persuadable that this is an offense worthy of not just impeaching in the house but removing from office. impeachment is not simply censure. it needs to cull anyone nate in a removal from office. although the facts, i believe, are increasingly on their side. >> christine, the fact that they are now -- there's the old adage be careful what you ask for. now they're going to public
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hearings. could the facts change the polling of the american public if they start hearing ed? the people we are hearing so far are people that worked in various positions in this administration. >> look, i think now that it's going to go public, there's going to be more information that's damning of the president that goes to the underlying personality and motivations of the president that americans don't like, that he's out for himself, that he lies, that he manipulates and name calls. people don't like that. the other trap that this now being public, the republicans i bet will fall into is that they'll continue even more aggressively to attack the witnesses and the messengers. they went at a war hero. >> who trump wanted in his --
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>> absolutely. had him in the secret room, so to speak. >> absolutely. >> also, the man who doesn't want to insult dogs is a dogs. they can't control themselves. when donald trump says jump, republicans say how high, and that will lead to more un-american and embarrassing and impeachable things for them and their behavior. >> the right wing or the trump supporters say it could backfire on the democrats, and it could, which you alluded too. could it also backfire on the president to continue to attack people that he himself had entrusted and he himself put in position? as christine just said, one of the witnesses this week was in the room. he didn't break in the room. he was in the room when the call went down between president trump and the president of ukraine. how do you have someone held in that kind of position of trust and all of a sudden he's a dog. >> yeah.
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to my knowledge, not just routinely colonel vindman and ambassador taylor is still charged to ukraine. he was accused of being a member of a deep-state conspiracy. >> how does that work? >> it can backfire on the president and republicans too. they have been pursuing a conclusion in purity of a rationale for sometime. this quid pro quo didn't happen and then quid pro quo kind of happened, but also it wasn't really criminal, there's no statute associated with this. >> i wanted to ask you about that. now they've changed the tune, first it didn't happen. now quid pro quo, well, it wasn't that bad to reach impeachable. so it's like, well, you're not a thief, and now it's -- well, he didn't steal $500, he stole $50. he's still a thief and you can get prosecuted. >> the only convincing argument is does it rise to the level of being the first time in american history, the second time and the
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third time the president was impeachment, is it really that bad? the gravity of that, you have to concede that something happened that was untoward. >> but he kind of has, as has giuliani in saying we made the call, after saying they didn't make the call, and we asked for this to happen so that the military resources would flow. >> yes. >> they've admitted that. so that in and of itself in their minds -- but in the rule of law, there is something wrong with that. so i think you're right. what you put would be at least a factually honest conversation. is that type of quid pro quo and that type of stealing bad enough? but that's not the conversation the united states of america should ever have. >> those types of conversations usually happen when you're in jail talking to another inmate. you're saying that you held up
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approved congressional money to a nation that needed it, that was dealing with some military -- >> that was our ally. >> that was an ally of ours, to tell them to investigate corruption but specifically investigate my potential opponent. >> yeah, and that's the rub. i know the the advancement. some argue this is about -- the president says it's policy. if help the to change the foreign policy progressives, that is his constitutional responsibility. this is very different in so far as it is not an advancement of american national interests but an advancement of his domestic, political interests. there's a big red line republicans are only beginning to acknowledge. it's going to become harder and harder for them to avoid it as the impeachment inquiry continues. >> let me ask a larger question of concern, christine and noah. i'll start with you, christine. if the evidence bears out and we conclusively see that this president did hold up united
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states congress-approved foreign aid to an ally to go after his opponent, and he is not impeached and/or convicted, have we lowered the bar and set a precedent for american history where impeachment becomes more difficult and we start really undoing the intent of the institution authorize? >> impeachment is always just difficult when you have a split house, when you have the house in one party and the senate in the other. that is just a fact. if what you said happens, and it's not impossible given the makeup of the senate, we need to be clear on that, i think it will show completely bare to the country as we head into an election how morally bankrupt the trump administration is. and i think that in a political sense will help us in the ballot box. but in politics we get into trouble when we try to game everything around the end. we have to follow the facts.
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>> noah? >> yeah, two things that concern me there. the first is that i think after this presidency you'll see impeachment become more common because the assumption will be that removal is not on the table if the other party controls what chamber. the impeachment will be a functionally censured. if this president is acquitted in the senate and wins re-election, impeachment is all but off the table. it is purely theoretical. no one will appeal to it in a second term. >> the politics this coming year, i'm talking about 50 years from now, have we changed the standard. and i think that ought to be considered by the members of the senate and the house. we'll have more with christine and noah later in the show. coming up, i'll speak with assistant speaker of the house congressman ben on what happened behind the scenes before and after impeachment. and about the next steps in the weeks ahead.
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but first, my colleague richard lui with today's top stories. richard? >> hey, rev. these are some of the stories. 13 wildfires are burning in california. the largest and most destructive is in the kincade fire. in just the past 10 days it's burned more than 77,000 acres, another blaze, the maria fire near seemmy valley exploded in size, taking out 10,000 acres in two days. an autopsy report confirms rfk's granddaughter, saoirse kennedy till died of a drug overdose. toxicology tests show she had methadone, alcohol, and several prescription drugs in her system at the time of her death. the 22-year-old was found dead at the kennedy compound in hyannis port, massachusetts. daylight saving time ends tomorrow morning. you'll gain an extra hour of
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january of next year. just as the candidates would like to maximize their time on the ground in iowa, new hampshire, and other early voting states, the six candidates who are also senators would be called back to washington nearly every day, a huge hindrance to their campaign efforts. joining me is democratic representative ben ray lieu han of new mexico who is the assistant speaker of the house. congressman, thank you for being with us. forgive me for messing up your name. my prompter went a little crazy, and i went with it but i know you know your name very well. >> thanks for having me. >> thank you for being here. let me ask you, there is the perception given by the president and others that democrats were bent on no matter what, impeaching this president. you have been at the top of the
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leadership with the democrats in the house. was this something that was agonizing, debated, and came to only after there was a builtup consensus in that it really wasn't that the democrats was as anxious as we're led to believe? >> look, reverend, not one of my colleagues who took pride in having to cast a vote to move forward with the process having to investigate the president with impeachment proceedings. this is a tool that was inherently built into the constitution by our founding fathers, and it's not a good day in america when the legislative branch of government, a coequal branch with the executive branch, has to move forward with investigations. and so, again, it's critically important, though, that we move forward and make sure that we're presenting the american people with the facts. that was the vote on thursday. this was the next step in this impeachment inquiry to make sure
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that there's more information that continues to make itself available to everyone, the facts are continuing to come forwardment as we move forward with an open hearing process for the american people to continue to tune in and continue to share the documents with everyone across america, including members of congress. >> now, you are the speaker of the house democrats. you are the assistant speaker of the house, period. >> yes, sir. >> i should say, assistant to the speaker of the house. and you chaired the dcc, which is where i know you from. are you saying that if you had any doubt that there were no -- there was no basis of investigating, there was no basis of a potential abuse of power on an impeachable act, you and the speaker would not have gone forward. you took a lot of flak from people that you should have been moving forward earlier, and you
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didn't. you took that flak, including from me. were you convinced you had to bring this to the senate that there was enough there that had to be investigated? >> reverend, what i would say is that it was very apparent as the investigation continued to move forward that there were serious actions taken by this president that concerned me, that were a clear violation of the president's oath to the united states of america, to the constitution, that jeopardized our national security, and opened up our three weeks ago corruption. when donald j. trump himself in the notes that he released show that he was asking a foreign president, the president of ukraine, for a favor, to investigate a political enemy of himself in order to try to help himself out, to win the next election, and he was using military aid as the leverage point, that's absolutely wrong.
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and it was abundantly clear. it couldn't be any more clear after the notes were released by the administration. we continued to see text messages from ambassador volker, testimony from ambassador taylor. we have learned about a meeting with vice president pence with the president of ukraine. and then an admission, a direct confession by the chief of staff to president donald trump, mick mulvaney, as well. so reverend, the facts are very clear, and it shows the urgency of why we have to move forward with presenting this information to the american people. again, this is not about democrat or republican. this is not about politics. this is about who's standing to defend the constitution of the united states of america and being abundantly clear that no one is above the law. >> the politics of this has b n been -- first the republicans are saying that, well, he might have done something, but it doesn't rise to the level of
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impeachment. and why divide the country? is it a legitimate argument? how do you respond to, well, he might have crossed the line, but let it go, it's dividing the country? is that a sound argument to you? >> well, reverend, i'm not even hearing many of my colleagues, most of my republican colleagues even say that the president's crossed the line. and i think that there's a simple question that our republican colleagues should have to answer, that all of them have been refusing to do so through today. and that question is a simple one. it is, should a president, any president, be allowed to be able to ask a foreign president to interfere in u.s. elections and use military aid as the leverage point? that is the question that they should be forced to answer, and the question has a simple answer. it's no. and i just don't know why our republican colleagues refuse to even make themselves available to answer that simple question, reverend. that's what this is about, and
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that's why i'm hopeful that some of our senate republican colleagues will do the right thing, defend the constitution, and show they're willing to stand up to this president and any president that clearly crosses this line. >> congressman, lujan, you are running for the u.s. senate in new mexico. the politics of this do you think will help or hurt those seeking senate seats like you are, and/or house seats, and how will it affect democratic candidates, six of them are in the senate, that will have to lose valuable days in the early part of the year as they should be spending every moment they can in iowa and new hampshire and south carolina? >> well, revered, look, i didn't make this decision lightly to move forward and support inquiry into impeachment with the president of the united states. it's not about the politics, it's about defending our constitution. that's what drove me to the decision that i made in support
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of the impeachment inquiry. now, as we look at public opinion across the country, i don't know that president trump is getting this right. the the american people overwhelmingly now with the majority of americans do support an impeachment inquiry. when you look at the six states that president trump won, the closest in 2016, a majority of voters in those states also support an impeachment inquiry, including a plurality in florida as well. so when you look at some of my colleagues in those states, i think that, one, they should stand up to this president, they should defend the constitution, but they should also be listening to their constituents who support this investigation. they want to see the facts presented to them. if, in fact, as i believe it seems very clear today, that this president has crossed this line, has violated his oath to office, has jeopardized our national security, and has invited corruption into our election in america, then, in fact, he must be held
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accountable. >> all right. please don't say too loud that the poll says in florida they're for impeachment, at least we get him moving out of new york into florida. i don't want him to change his mind. thank you for being with us. next, trump's transformation of the judicial branch is one of the most underreported travisties of his term. a look at the unqualified nominees he wants to install. he even has folks shedding tears. i'll explain after the break. ink
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in my weekly memo to president trump, mr. president, i'd like to call you to order and again take a hard look at the state of the federal judiciary. back when you were a candidate, mr. president, you pledged to surround yourself with only the best and the brightest, but in true trump fashion, it turned into yet a broken promise a belligerent from supreme court justice brett kavanaugh is the most infamous and high-profile example of who you consider to
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be, quote, the most serious people to sit on the bench. but it doesn't stop this. the american bar association, a nonpartisan organization, has been rating educational nominees based on professional excess and temperament. three years into your term it has-rated nine of your nominees as unqualified. lucky for you you have a senate led by mitch mcconnell who is more than happy to push through your poor nominees. however, it's very unlucky for the american people. case in point, 37-year-old justin walker, a former clerk for justice kavanaugh whose trial experience is limited to, hear this, one trial and one deposition. walker is just one of five unqualified trump nominees who were jammed into lifetime terms on the federal bench, and even
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the ones who are deemed qualified have major red flags, like steven ma gnash a white house lawyer whose writings have been extremely hostile toward women, the lgbtq community, and minorities. he's refused to answer questions about his work for you, therefore, you like him for the job. maybe your most egregious attack from the bench comes in the form of lawrence van dyke. the aba conducted interviews with 60 people who know him in a professional capacity and issued a scathing letter reporting on his arrogance, laziness, lack of knowledge, and lbgtq bias. when that letter was introduced at van dyke's hearing, let's just say he didn't handle it well. >> i apologize.
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the world is messy. there are ambiguities. people who do really good stuff have flaws. there is this sense sometimes of the way of me making change is to be as judgmental of others. you know, that's not activism. that's not bringing about change. if all you're doing is casting stones, you're probably not going to get that far. >> ideological purity, former president barack obama warning far-left democrats may not be doing themselves any favors by constantly trying to be woke. for more on president obama's assessment of the party, i'm
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joined by one of his senior advisers in the white house, valerie jarrett. she's also author of the book "finding my voice: my journey to the west wing and the path forward." ms. jared, thank you for being with us. i was as some of the old ladies in church, overjoyed when i heard the president say that. because isn't it a dangerous pattern and even slightly arrogant when some on the left are giving purity tests and not moving forward and not trying to do things in a way that will benefit americans the way we claim we want to see it befitted? >> i think that's absolutely right. good evening, reverend sharpton. i'm here in chicago on my way to the under urban league dinner. there's no substance for hard work. we can't let perfect by the enemy of the good. perfect, of course, is our idea,
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what we think is best. but it is a big, complicated country out there, and we need to make change and we want to push as hard as we can, but we should do better. we should be a force for good, and this i gotcha, it just gets in the way of real sustained effort over time. and so i think he was really calling on us to say let's roll up our sleeves, let's do the hard work, let's listen to one another, let's recognize that many times we're all in it for the right reasons, and let's push forward, and let's not be so busy snapping about the negative when we should be focusing on what we have in common and how to push ourselves, push all of ourselves to do better. i know you know that from your long time in the civil rights movement. tonight i'm going to get the bill barry award from the urban league. he was an icon in chicago, at least symbolic of the hard work and how we all have to concentrate on that incremental progress and stop thinking it's my way or the highway.
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>> he was an icon nationally who served in chicago of no one deserves that award more than you. it comes in that tradition. i think a lot of people forget that barack obama started as a community organizer, so he knows the difference between just heckling and just being anti and getting something done. he built all the way to the senate onto the white house. he did it sometimes being questioned by those that claimed to be the real progressives, but he got more progressive things done. no one, i think, could have made that statement that had more gravitas and weight like this former president. >> i think that's right, absolutely. he knows what it takes to knock on doors, have interest door slammed in your face, knock on doors again and to listen to people on all sides. it doesn't mean you're not strong and don't have great conviction, but you recognize
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that in this big, messy, complicated country, sometimes we have to compromise. and through that compromise we make progress. that's the key. you hold the baton, you run with it as fast as you can. it doesn't mean you should ask for everything and hold people accountable, but it always means it's more than the use of social media to retaliate. let's use it as an instrument of good, not a weapon. we've seen it being weaponized far too much. >> we're not talking about compromising your principles, we're talking about how you make those principles come to an actualization. many of us feel that helped to defeat the democrats in 2016. do you have that fear and think that that's what president obama is concerned about getting ahead of that early so we don't see a repeat of that in 2020? >> he has talked about the circular firing squad. i think what he has encouraged the candidates to do and certainly i know many of us have who have spoken with him is,
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let's keep focused on the prize. the prize is a general election. don't beat each other up so much during the primary that whoever emerges as a nominee goes in a weakened state. every time we are critical of one another, that's going to be used in a commercial by the republicans. that is not to say don't have honest and heated debates about policy. that's perfectly legitimate. but let's not strip each other down because ultimately the party is going to have to pull together and move forward in the general election. >> as we see many of the things that president obama and you as the senior adviser in the white house fought to get through, now in jeopardy and, in some cases, as the federal judge appointees i just talked about on this show, setting us back that would be longer in terms of its impact than president trump or whoever follows him will be in office. is it not a sense of urgency on president obama and you and
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others to say, wait a minute, we've got to secure where we've already -- the road we traveled and be very careful going forward, because we could lose more than we have gained if we end up with a lot of infighting among the so-called woke crowd. >> exactly. reverend sharpton, i want to thank you for putting a spotlight on judges. it is so important that we have competent judges, fair judges, judges with judicial temperament. what we've seen is packing the courts with judges that don't meet any of those criteria. it shows you that election have consequences in so many ways that affect our day-to-day life. the stakes couldn't be higher. i should mention this coming week mrs. obama launched an initiative to encourage everybody to vote. we will have news coming out in the days ahead, but what we need to see is every american care about not just his running for president, but every single office and get involved and
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vote. when we all vote is nonpartisan because we were troubled in the last election, 43% of eligible voters didn't vote. disproportionately young people didn't vote because they're disengaged. what we've seen is a level of activism, which is encouraging to me, and we need to make sure that that is positive activism trying to focus on what we have in common to move our country forward and show particularly the young people who are watching that they can have a profound, positive impact on our country if they get involved. stop tweeting at each other, start talking with each other and rally us together for those core democratic principles that have been a fundamental pillar of our country forever. i'm not saying democratic party, i'm saying the principles of a democracy, the rule of law, culture, social norms, all of which have blown up right now. >> if you're going to be woke,
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that means wake up, but if you wake up, you need tog up and go to work. >> go to work. >> valerie jarrett, winner of the bill barry award, thank you for being with us. >> thank you, reverend sharpton. up next, tomorrow marks one year until election day, 2020. we'll take a look at the current state of the democratic race and how things might pan out in the near future. you're watching "politicsnation." there was a sports car and a family saloon car and i always had in my mind that one day the family car could compete in rallies and racing when the mini actually came out i said this is the one to do it.
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tomorrow marks one year until election day in 2020, and the pool of candidates is getting even smaller after starting off to great fanfare, former texas congressman beto o'rourke announced he's dropping out of the white house race. meanwhile, senator kamala harris is facing troubles of her own, the campaign is strapped for cash. they laid off staff and is closing its offices in the early voting state of new hampshire, but she says she'll fight on. for a look at where things stand one year out, my panel is back, christine quinn, vice chair of the new york state democratic committee, and noah rothman,
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associate editor for commentary manage. it's a year from election day and wie are three months from iowa. in politics, it's getting closer. how do you assess the race now? it seems if we're looking at iowa and new hampshire, we're looking at, it seems mayor pete seems to be picking up, and it seems like elizabeth warren and joe biden and bernie sanders are kind of like battling out, these four, in iowa. >> that's the top tier at the moment. but i say at the moment because things can change quickly. probably a month ago, people would have thought mayor pete would be nowhere near the top four. that's a surprise to a lot of people. so things can change, but that is, i think, clearly for iowa and new hampshire the top tier. if vice president biden comes in fourth as yesterday or the day
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before's poll had him in iowa, that's very bad, though no one expect him to win iowa. i think this bunchup at the top makes south carolina even more important, and i just have to say, mayor pete is not doing well in south carolina or among african-american voters. a lot of people are assigning that to homophobia, and there is homophobia in the voters in america, no question. >> no question. >> but i resent the assumption that african-american voters are not voting for him because he is a gay african-americans have stood with my community more than any other. >> and we've had this discussion down through the years. >> and it's just a terrible stereotype that african-americans don't deserve and is simply not true. >> well, you also have to deal with and i'm going to you, noah, they act like we do not have members of the lgbt community who are also african-american. and when they talk about, well,
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older voters in south carolina. every guy person in south carolina has a mother and father. you don't want to see your child discriminated against. but let me ask you, who do you think the republicans are most fearful of and who they would like to run against if they had their choice right now? >> i think those two people are the same person, actually. >> really? >> and i think that's elizabeth warren. yes, i think both republicans are terrified of her as the prospect of a president and i also think they she she is the most beatable candidate in the top tier. >> why fearful? and why beatable? >> the same reason, again, because she is presenting herself as among the more radical candidates in the race. a little to the center from bernie sanders but bernie sanders, i don't believe republicans perceive to be electable. i believe they perceive elizabeth warren to be electable and to represent a significant threat in that sense. at the same time, however, what we were witness to this week with the release of this plan to
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supposedly pay for medicare i think demonstrates the voracity of the republican belief that she is a beatable candidate who makes un -- unnecessary errors, mistakes. this is a mistake. this -- you've now been able to pin her down on a lot of specifics that she's going to have a very hard time defending. a lot of the elements of this proposal are frankly insulting. insulting to the intelligence of anybody who understands the issue. and she's already being boxed into a corner. there is a famous clip online saying we're going to repurpose all these healthcare workers who are removed from their industry and they're going to move over to health insurance, car insurance, life insurance. as though these aren't completely distinct industries. that is one error she's going to make in a series of errors as she tries to defend this proposal. >> but you know what, i just want to say elizabeth warren is known as the gal with a plan. right? she's got a plan for everything and i think she needs to be applauded for that. any time you put out a plan as an elected official or candidate, you are open to be picked apart. but good for her for having the
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tenacity of her conviction. >> we will see if she can defend it in the next debate because i'm sure even her opponents are going to come. i want to raise this before we run out of time. a new piece in axios is exposing the racial wealth gap among the 2020 candidates. where the leading white candidates have combined nearly four times as much cash on hand as all five non-white candidates. is there a race gap in terms of raising money that you cannot, in the democratic party, depend on the same kind of financial support and the big money contributors if you're a person of color than if you're white? >> you know, yes. in fact, that plays out in new york city in the most local city council races. it's why we have the robust public financing we do because what we saw was local neighborhood -- of color were having trouble raising money at
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the same rate as white candidates. look, we can debate the whys and whats and the historic nature of this but it is a fact. this article on that chart shows it yet again. >> i mean, it is a fact but i just think the presidential race is a bad illustration of it. what we saw there was an overlap of the candidates who are performing well. objectively performing well. and the candidates who are not. notably, senator kamala harris, who in the wake of her very fine debate performance against joe biden, raised $2 million online in 24 hours. if she'd be able to keep up that pace, she'd be in the top tier today. >> we have to leave it there. we need to talk about that more. thank you both christine quinn and noah rothman. thank you both for coming. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. up next, my final s stay with us
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it became a public news story yesterday that president donald trump is moving out of new york and moving to florida. well, i immediately got several calls from new york movers that wanted to volunteer their services for nothing to help move. that is how the mood of many new yorkers are. he will not be missed. now, let's be real clear. he was born, raised in new york. but he was never really of new york. he did more moving around to sell donald trump than he really got into the diverse communities of new york. in fact, he was sued and had to settle with the justice department for housing
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discrimination. he rallied for five innocent young men to be executed even though he tried to make the spots. he would come to my events. he would try to act like a democrat sometimes. i would see him come to national action network events that i had even though he now calls me a conman never explaining why he would have been supporting with his presence conmen. but that's another story. if you really want to know that i'm right about him not being a real new yorker, who goes to a pizza shop with sarah pa alin a goes to have pizza with a knife and fork? that's telling. he's not a real new yorker. but, mr. president, on your way out, remember you have a real hard decision to make. you can move your residence but where are you going to put the trump presidential library? who is going to welcome that? who wants to have that in their home state? that's a little more difficult
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than you being isolated at mar-a-lago. and stay at mar-a-lago, mr. president. don't go to doral. they say they have bed bugs. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern for a new live edition of "politicsnation." up next, my colleague richard lui picks up the coverage with more of today's news. live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. thanks for being with us. first up for you, another potential explosive week on tap as democrats prepare to go full speed ahead in the next big phase of the impeachment inquiry with at least 11 depositions scheduled. will they show up? senators could be ready to say quid pro quo did happen but there's a "but" to that. then a first look at never-seen-before memos from the mueller report. they outline a link between ukraine and the president even before the infamous phone call. the reporter who broke that story this hour. plus, will democ
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