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joining us now, nbct( news rtqg warrior in minneapolis, minnesota covering senator bernie sanders. politics reporter covering the 2020 campaign for the daily beast plus award winning journalist and author and director of the center for8q politics, larry. the numbers and i'm sure everybody around you isq lookin at all of these polls. they rr trying to put it all together. what is resonating as you aree1 there in the midwest? >>. >> reporter: it's clear the sanders' campaign is trying to show they have energy with senator sandersokw3 back on the campaign trail. we're here in minneapolis, minnesota, where heq is going t have an event rally. he had a venue to holde1 about 1,500 people. q they nowñifá have an arena that hold up to 15,000 people.

senator sanders saying he isfá proud to be campaigning. he saidok shet( has probably be subjected to more racist attacks than any congress person in the history of the country. he is obviously b3'king about the attacks from president trump earlier this summer as the two kind of sparred back and forth.i kind of sparred back and forth.i this is the third week in a row &4] campaign with the q?;so-called squad. çó;fp#b people here have been very excited. the first person in line was there at 6:00 a.m. listen to what his supporters told me. >> all of these ideals, it's not so important. i think that's what matters to him. >> no other candidate has since day one supported communities that look like mine. no one else has the records that senator sanders has. even before he was in politics

he was fighting the fight for all of us. >> reporter: in addition to the big amount of people here and the big endorsements touting, there is a big celebrity event. they were prince's backup band for about two decades before prince died. they will be performing here. they endorsed senator sanders earlier this week. his supporters are going to see a show from senator sanders and congresswoman. they'll get a good performance. >> hometown of prince. great place to be. following bernie sanders, always a good report on the ground there. thank you so much. back to our panel. how do you put some of these numbers together? you look at the national polling that came out from nbc news. you put that together with what we're seeing in iowa. i'm going to guess you're probably going to say look at iowa.

that's closer to the due date, if you will. >> it's three months, a little less than three months to iowa. there is time for somebody to come out of the lower tiers. i don't think we ought to restrict it to the four top players because there is frankly some dissatisfaction with all four of them. there might be somebody, maybe klobuchar. she has picked up a little steam. what's important is that once you get to iowa, they always say there are three tickets out. well, there could be four tickets out. we don't know. but i sure know one thing. iowa is 91% white. new hampshire is 93% white. the democratic party is 40% or more minority. other states are going to have a different opinion about these candidates. and they'll insist on having their say. >> you watched a couple of elections, i hear.

>> probably as many as larry. i did 11 winters. >> let's talk about the winters. who on the lower end -- we have the top four. >> well, i think that first of all the campaign is just beginning in iowa. usually about 80% of the people in iowa say they are undecided at this point. i've seen candidates like john kerry come from last place in december to win the precinct caucuses. the place i would look here, i think on the liberal track elizabeth warren has kind of taken over from bernie sanders. on the moderate track, jeb buoen is losing steam. i think the interesting race is going to be for the moderate to succeed biden. and that will be buttigieg,

klobuchar. he has a great campaign at the moment and has the advantage of being in the debate, by far the most eloquent candidate. >> as we look at what has happened in the friday range that joe's talking about, we do see kamala harris pulling back from new hampshire. that's something to watch. beto o'rourke out of the race, as well. that's got to be a little bit of winnowing energy, shall we say. >> absolutely. with just 100 days until the new hampshire primary, we had kamala harris who was when she entered the 2020 race, she had that massive 20,000-person rally in her native oakland. and so we're seeing a drastic cut in her support in the state of new hampshire. of course, she's kind of sort of remains -- she said publicly that she remains committed to new hampshire. we can't help but notice on the ground talking to people there that she has cut significantly

her staff. and there has been a bit of downward momentum for many weeks. so you know it's basically iowa or bust for her. i think she admits that. she sees the writing on the wall, and she's trying out the strategy and putting her eggs in the basket with that hope that that will carry over. >> you were just saying that friday is when the election started. why? >> i think for several reasons. one was the beto o'rourke news. another was the kamala harris cutting back in new hampshire. the third was the polling that's taking place there. and the fourth is whatever they're calling the jefferson jackson dinner in iowa which is traditionally the kickoff. they had it on friday night. everybody came after elizabeth warren. and the other thing is that warren released her how to pay for the health care plan which i suspect will be disastrous. >> some of the other names that came up in the polling on this

sunday, names that come from the past. michelle obama and hillary clinton. when you look at the numbers, they're not doing so bad. are these wishful thoughts? >> i haven't heard a single person seriously say that either hillary clinton or michelle obama are even remotely contemplating anything close to another presidential run for hillary and for michelle obama would be her first. i think that is wishful thinking although that remains popular. >>. thank you. coming up for you, we have a lot before we break. a quick fact check. a week ago today after president trump announced the killing of isis leader, we're learning more about the operation by u.s. special forces. in his speech to the nation the

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here. >> the house is technically out of session, 11 more witnesses are set to be deposed. we should note it is unclear which will actually show up. this is what the week coming up looks like. four witnesses are scheduled for tomorrow including robert blair. and on tuesday, we have two more, also. office of management and budge associate director. we have michael duffy and special assistant to the president. on wednesday, another stacked day, includes the first member of president trump's cabinet. secretary of energy rick perry. and according to a department spokesperson perry will not testify behind closed doors. on thursday, the most anticipated of the week and that's john bolten, the former national security adviser whose name has emerged repeatedly. bolten's lawyer who shares with another individual who has not shown up has said he is not

willing to appear voluntarily. our panel is back to discuss this. joyce, this is that question, as we look at those, rick perry as well as john bolten. we heard from representative out in connect that they may have issued, he said on fox news today, they may have issued a subpoena for him. he says i will wait until i get a ruling from a federal judge. is that where we are at? many are just waiting for the one ruling. >> reporter: i think we're in a very uncomfortable place for the rule of law because there is a federal statute that makes it a crime for someone who had been subpoenaed by congress to not show up.

and that's what we're seeing a number of witnesses doing. yes, they have the excuse that they filed a lawsuit in a court to ask that court to decide what they have to do, but that's not the way that the law is supposed to work here. i suspect, though, richard that you're right because john bolten has the same lawyer. they will hang their hat on the fact that they filed a lawsuit asking a federal court ultimately to determine whether or not they have to show up and testify. i think it's unlikely unless that court moves very quickly. >> so scott, based on what joyce is telling us, what is next for congress? >> if these nearly one dozen witnesses failed to show up on capitol hill this week, then the ball is in the democrats' court. and they have to decide, they have to come together and decide

what their tactics will be at this point. we do know they do plan to release some of the redacted transcripts from some of these interviews that have already been conducted in the coming days and weeks. so we'll look for that. but they have to decide whether or not they are going to move forward without testimony from some of these key figures like rick perry and john bolten and send these articles and start to move into the public setting. for the last several weeks, these witnesses have all been interviewed behind closed doors. democrats will now decide how quickly they want to move this out into the public setting and into the public spotlight and in front of television cameras. >> the concern has been if you're critical of the way democrats have been handling it so far. and the speaker, speaker pelosi has intimated that they may consider the parts that are part of the mueller investigation.

that has been the criticism of the way they the speaker has at least spoken in public about where she might go with th. >> i think a lot of developments really under score for the president some crucial differences from the mueller probe in that that taking place as it did over the course of two years and with a special counsel's office that was really sort of a black box for information coming out through the press or through congress. a lot of that information really didn't come out until the report was published. and what did come out was sort of a drip, drip, drip through the news media of trying to sort of read the tea leaves of where that investigation was going. contrast that with what we've seen over the last month, it has been a diluge of damaging information for the president. i think that has done a lot to shift public perception in the way that the mueller process really couldn't. so you know, we have the stacked week ahead.

there is potentially a lot more information that could be coming out. and it's really i think creating a very different political dynamic for the president and for democrats for that matter. >> representative jim hiemz also said expect these public hearings in the next two to three weeks. that's when the show really begins. that's when we understand whether or not the democrats could weave the story together for the public. >> i think that this was a very significant week in one way that members of the united states senate republicans finally came up with a rationale. they are now saying what the president did was terrible, but it's not impeachable. and i think that that's where this is going to rest unless there is another shoe oo drop. now, in the "washington post" there was a really interesting article about the fact that trump has been burr zurk about ukraine from before he went into office. the question is why?

at the bottom of that mystery, i think we're going to find out whether he has done things that republicans will consider impeachable. >> okay. thank you. go on and have a great sunday. i appreciate your time today. which candidates in the 2020 field are picking up momentum to challenge the leaderboard? we'll discuss that. leaderboard? we'll discuss that. still fresh... ♪ unstopables in-wash scent booster ♪ downy unstopables

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seat majority. and there are 23 g.o.p. seats compared to a dozen democratic seats for grabs in 2020. roughly about two thirds for the republicans, much less for the democrats. there are five republican senators particularly vulnerable to losing their seat. at least folks are watching them, because their net approval ratings have dropped. those senators martha mcsally, susan collins, corey gardner. so are they trending the wrong way? senior fellow at the university of virginia joins us now, former florida republican congressman and david jolly. thanks for being here. chris, we watch the balance of power, many are watching obviously the senate. if you're a democrat, which you are, you are looking at the impeachment process and impeachment inquiry and how the senate may get in the way of as some democrats are saying of a

fair trial in the senate. your reflection of where you are seeing the trending? >> the conventional wisdom has been off so many times on impeachment. first, the theory was that this would hurt democrats the way in 1998. it's like the public opinion polls has moved so firmly in favor and now a slight majority in favor. ajority in favor. independent voters go, it's how many of these close senate races will go. you'll recall in 2016, donald trump won independents by four points.nd democrats won independents by 12 pointsin in 2018. so when you look at states like colorado, nevada, arizona, maine, those independents will be the margin of error. so it's really too soon to tell how this all plays out. it will really depend on these hearings we're going to have in the nextar couple weeks as wells

an eventual senate trial. >> david, another number to look at from nbc news/"wall street journal ", our second full screen, that's looking at senats majority leader mitch mcconnell. he's the individual who decides what will be key baited on the floor of the senate and what will not be. k we'll put it on screen for you. totaln positive, 18%, total negative, 40%.po he's got to be looking at this as he's looking at the upcoming 2020 election. >> and those numbers reflect that he is in leadershipio and just like nancy pelosi, at times during her moments in leadership has faced some headwinds in terms of polls. it is nothing to worry about back home. i know kentucky democrats are going to work very hard, but i think the odds ares that mitch mct connell's very safe back ho. the odds also are likely where were sit today, as chris said, t acceleration, change of public opinion on impeachment, house

t maintains under control of democrats. republicans, slight control, possibly getting to a tie in the senate. two things to look for, in the house, 30 seats where democrats holdse districts that trump wons half of those are by freshmen. so you're more vulnerable. democrats can only stand to lose about 15 or 16 seats. o right now, it seems like they're in fine shape.e republicans in the senate, as you t mentioned, richard, democrats would havene to run t table in arizona, colorado, maine, and north carolina, and iowa -- >> yeah, four c seats. >> because they likely will lose -- and they'll lose alabama with doug jones who took it from roy moore, rightfully so. republicans will pick up r alabama. the interesting play here is a net pickup of three, which is very possible by democrats. >> right. >> puts it at 50/50. and the vice president controls the tiebreaking vote, so everything would be at the top of the ticket. going intohe 2020. >> they'd have to win the white house and three seats. chris lu -- >> that's right. >> -- if you're a gambling man,

would you put a dollar down? >> look, i would certainly put a dollar down. i don't know if i would put my house down or my car down. the other key for democrats is to see if you can put more states on the table, you know, with beto o'rourke jumping out of the presidential race, there's a lot of hopes he'll run in texas. somebody like a steve bullock possibly dropping out of a presidential race to run for montana. you want to put as many possible seats on the table because, frankly, the political environment in 2020 will all be dictated by donald trump and how he does and we've seen these kind of wave elections go back and forth.ns and, look, i don't know that anyoneth expected doug jones' election in 2017, but, you know, when you have more chances to win, thatnc certainly increases your probability of taking back the majority. >> urso, let's talk about that, david jolly. beto o'rourke now out.rk he's saying i'm not going to get into this norace. based on the way he tacked left. he may not be able to get into the senate race in texas right now. if heht were to run, what would your viewru be, what would be yr suggestion to him?

>> look, i think beto's a remarkable candidate. he's also a friend. served together on the v.a. committee rather closely. the man is exhausted. he'se exhausted. richard, i spent a year on t thexh -- on a statewide senate campaign trail when marco rubio washe running for exhausting pr you and your family. beto did that, nearly won the senate race and jumped into the presidential race. >> have youd talked to him? >> to your point and chris -- >> have you talked to him since friday 12. >> i have not talked to him since friday. i think he's going to stick with his decision. when texas tay goes particularlr the electoral college, welcome to generations of democrat controlling the white house. changes once er texas goes hablue. >> texas or georgia, you pick it, that will mean a lot. chris lu, speaking of beto o'rourke, what does that say about your, party's candidates right tynow? will we see more dropping out? why didn't he succeed? >> well, look, i think the challenge in this race is that

there are so many candidates. you do need a lot of money to run these national campaigns. that being said, i think the race is fairly c fluid at this point.fa i think a lot of people have been focusing on the top three. i've beenoc intrigued by the ri of pete buttigieg peaking at exactly the time he needs to to peak. i also wouldn't be, frankly, surprised by a kamala harris and amy klobuchar coming up. you have toob realize the way t map electoral calendar map is setnd up, that first super tuesy comes very fast. got states like california, north carolina, virginia, that will have a lot of delegates and texas is in that first set of super tuesday. now that beto is not in there, it's open season far lot of candidates. i don't think this is going too be odoresolved soon. >> 15 seconds, david. who else might pop up from the bottom of the ticket since we'rn talking, klobuchar, yang, who are you looking at? >> i don't think there's a dark horse emerging. i think a very good debate for democrats inoo iowa and new hampshire is going to bes the debate between warrenhe and may pete onn medicare for all vers medicare for all who want it

because that will be a defining issue of the party and their nominee.ar you got two brilliant spokespeople for two different sides of that policy conversation going straight into io iowa. i thnk it's going it be a great conversation. >> two of the smartest folks ind b the room. chris lu and david jolly, thank you. have a great sunday. >> thank you. coming up next, democratic congressman jim clyburn of south carolina joinscl reverend al sharpton to talk all things impeachment ahead of a big week on b politics, on "politicsnati" right here on msnbc. n msnbc. pursuing life-changing cures in a country that fosters innovation here, they find breakthroughs... like a way to fight cancer by arming a patient's own t-cells... because it's not just about the next breakthrough... it's all the ones after that.

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