and that does it for us this week. join me back here next saturday and sunday 4:00 p.m. eastern. see me on social media, facebook, insta gram. i'll get right back. let me know what you think. now i turn it over to reverend al sharpton and "politicsnation." good evening. and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lead, one year to go with exactly 366 days until election day, a brand-new poll by nbc news and "the wall street journal" shows that while national support for impeaching president trump grows and a majority of americans disapprove of his job performance, his base remains solid as ever. but what also stands out from the poll is that these numbers have been relatively constant,

showing how little has actually changed in h the past year. despite the impeachment inquiry. in our survey, 53% of americans say they approve of democrats' impeachment inquiry into trump's actions with ukraine, while 44% disapprove. but the increase in those supporting removal from office comes mainly from more democrats and independents getting onboard. how will all of this affect the 2020 race? well, the president trails two leading democratic candidates by nearly ten points. each in hypothetical general election matchups, trump loses to former vice president joe biden, 50% to 41%. and to senator warren 50% to 42%. as for the democratic presidential nomination, the poll shows biden and warren at

the top with 27% and 23% respectively. senator bernie sanders at 19%. mayor pete at 6%. senator amy klobuchar at 5%. senator kamala harris at 4%. and entrepreneur andrew yang at 3%. all the other candidates do not receive more than 2% support. more on the 2020 race later in the hour, but we'll begin with the latest on the impeachment investigation. joining me now, rita shaw, republican strategist and adrian elrod, former senior adviser for the hillary clinton presidential campaign and an msnbc contributor. how do you assess, reena, the very eventful week in terms of depositions and witnesses that came before the closed-door sessions? >> i think it was another very chaotic week in washington where

the president seems to be growing more and more worried about the impeachment inquiry. we've seen him go silent at some points, but very rarely. we've seen him also have outbursts. more than ever. i think what that tells us is that he is still very worried about where this can go. look, two democrats in the house voting with republicans is not huge news. but the republicans had framed it as, look, this is bipartisanship, this means that this inquiry is a witch hunt and i think the president feels pretty safe about the rnc always having his back, about his base remaining very stable and about the power of the bully pulpit which i've talked about many times here. i believe in my study of the american presidency, the power of the incumbentsy is very great. something that's going to be incredibly hard to overcome even though the crimes seem like they've been in broad daylight. we have people like kellyanne conway going out saying, this doesn't go all the way to the

point of high crimes and misdeme misdemeanors. i think what we need to watch is the next two weeks. i think everybody says this all the time, but really, the president will grow more unstable, i believe, once all of this is out in the public. because it was once private and now it's going to be public. and that can really transform public opinion. >> talking about the president looking unstable, he had almost a bizarre kind of press conference, if you want to call it that, or availability, when he got back to washington today. pacing back and forward, answering questions by reporters but moving up and down the press line. and he kept saying that we need to know who the whistle-blower was and the whistle-blower now has reportedly said that he's open to taking questions from republican lawmakers, but it would still be in private. take a listen to what trump had

to say earlier today. >> the whistle-blower should be revealed because the whistle-blower gave false stories. some people would call it a fraud. i won't go that far, but when i read it closely, i probably would. they know who it is. you know who it is. you just don't want to report it. you know, you'd be doing the public a service if you did. >> adrian, your response to the president? >> yeah, this is our self-described stable genius president at his best right now, rev. obviously, i'm being sarcastic here. look, this is -- we see donald trump going out there saying crazy, erratic things every single day, but i think what he is saying about this whistle-blower takes it to a whole new level. he has complete -- a lack of disregard for the safeguards that are in place for whistle-blowers. he's the president of the united states. he's going out there to the media and declaring to the

american public that we should find out who this whistle-blower is and that person should be forced to come forward. that is just so incredibly irresponsible for the president to do and also puts our national security in jeopardy because there are whistle-blowers all the time in government who are shedding light on some of the bad things that happen behind the scenes and these people need to be protected. now, i also want to say, rev, going back to what rina said a while ago regarding impeachment proceedings, right now, a majority, according to the new nbc/"wall street journal" poll, a majority of americans believe donald trump should be impeached. that is significant. of course, that lead has grown among independents and democrats. >> correct. >> donald trump knows if independents don't go with him, here's going to lose this election. that's significant and it's also significant, rev, we have not seen any of the public testimony take place in the public yet because it's been behind the scenes. imagine how those numbers will shift when you start seeing witness after witness who has significant amounts of credibility coming in front of

congress for millions and millions of americans to see on national television, making the case for impeachment against trump. i expect those numbers to dramatically increase when that starts to happen. >> well, rina, our nbc/"wall street journal" poll also shows 53% of americans disapprove of trump's job performance. while just 45% who say they approve. so he's not only under water in terms of those that want to support the impeachment inquiry and/or removal from office, he's under water in his job approval. that can't be good news and might also add to his ranting and his kind of bizarre behavior. >> sure, you know, historically speaking, these numbers aren't tremendously surprising. now, i realize those are not great numbers, and i'm sort of bringing you what i'm hearing from republicans is that until

they see that number of the approval rating and the disapproval rating go ten points in one direction or ten points in the other, they're not really scared because one thing that 2016 really told all of us is the polls really sometimes don't matter, and that's, you know, we can kdebate that on a whole different segment, but from i'm at right now, i've seen some of the impeachment polling stabilizing. what i'm waiting for is what was once private like i said before to now be public. i think that's what really is going to change hearts and minds is when people take the time to listen. and see these witnesses. but to the question earlier, i'd love to just jump in and say i'm not a lawyer, but the president of the united states talking about the whistle-blower, the way he is in these tweets, there are legal experts saying this is witness intimidation. that is a crime if you look at it and in the way in which he's doing it, that's tampering. that's intimidation. and the fact that he does it from a public profile, i just find this to be an incredible

moment we're in. i want to watch these next couple days and see what legal experts continue to say because it feels to me that the president now really knows no bounds. he thinks everything is fair game. >> yeah. >> the transcript told us that. the ukrainian call transcript did. >> i also agree with adrienne's point, if you are the head of the government to try to scare people from becoming whistle-blowers, imagine people that are watching the -- that that are in government that's listening to the chief executives saying blow the cover off of a whistle-blower, and you're sitting there -- >> scary. >> -- thinking of reporting something, it's irresponsible at best. i don't know if it's illegal, but it's certainly irresponsi e irresponsible. but let me say this, let me raise this question, to you, adri adrienne, they are now moving the goal post in terms of their defense of the president. i'm talking about his supporters and those in the white house, by

saying that, well, we're dealing with -- well, let me play kellyanne conway this morning in her latest rendition. that will bring my point home. >> kellyanne, the president didn't release the aid until the story was out. >> you're trying to make that causation where it may be -- >> i find it an awfully interesting coincidence. >> they got their aid. that's what's important. >> no, no -- >> why did not -- >> it was held up all summer until the 11th of senptember, te only reason it came out -- >> no, don't say that, doebn't there. you have no idea -- >> a coincidence that the whistle-blower complaint comes on the -- >> not under oath -- >> you're suggesting it's -- >> i'm suggesting that you don't know what you were just about to say to be true. >> that is kellyanne conway, and they're also now raising the question of, well, maybe he did, in fact, what is being reported, but it doesn't raise to the

level of impeachment. and if he used abuse of power, does it matter how much the level is? isn't the abuse of power in and of itself something that is impeachable? adrienne? >> yeah, i mean, rev, this is what they're left w right? they try to focus on the process argument and that failed, and so now they're basically hanging on to the last bread crumb they can get their hands on. which is, oh, in the end, ukraine got the money, they got the funding that they needed, so it doesn't matter what conversations or what sort of intimidation quid pro quo happened in the meantime. what matters is they ultimately got the money. this is a terribly sloppy defense. the one thing i'll give the trump administration credit for is they had all their surrogates who are on television this morning from kellyanne conway, to steve scalise, all on the same message. the message does not resonate. this is not something they can stand their legs on for that much longer because, again, the american people are looking at

this saying this is not exactly -- this is not what the president should do. ultimately, he was pressuring a government to look into a political adversary, a political opponent, and his family and his record and that is against the law and exactly why congress is doing what they're doing right now which is going forward with the impeachment process. >> rina, speaker pelosi said that it is also possible as they go into public hearings that they could expand what they're going to look at in terms of the impeachment proceedings. is that not another cause for concern, if not panic, among those in the white house? >> i would say it's not yet because what they have been doing, and what i think they've actually been quite adept at doing these past few days, is calling this witch hunt by speaker pelosi exactly that because they say a simple argument, very elementary

argument, they have been building, the democrats have been building this defense against this president for so long is they will do anything, they will go to any length to say that the president is committing a crime, to say that the president is doing something wrong in the sense he's abusing his power. but where they win -- this is to my point also earlier, to the l layperson, like me, not a legal exert, believes in the court of law the things the president are doing, witness intimidation, it seems, in a court of law these things would be wrong, criminal, illegal, whatever you want to call them, this is not a court of law. i think that's what kellyanne conway gets right when she goes on these shows, she realizations -- she's a lawyer, too -- the thing is she can do this because this is politics. this is the public sphere where it's not a court of law. there are no sort of repercussions. unless donald trump is sitting before the senate in a trial in the u.s. senate, the american people know no better. there's a lot of misconceptions, misunderstanding of how impeachment exactly works in this country, republicans are using it to their advantage. >> that is a challenge for the

d democrats to drive their message home. >> no doubt. >> we'll have more with rina and adrienne later in the show. coming up, we'll speak with house majority whip jim clyburn about what happened behind the scenes before and after this week's impeachment vote. but first, my colleague, richard lui, with today's top news stories. richard? >> hey, rev. yeah, the stories we're watching this hour, firefighters are working around the clock to put out the maria fire that's north of los angeles. santa ana winds and dry brush are making the situation worse. crews are looking into active power lines as a possible source of those flames. today, mcdonald's corporation announcing that it has fired ceo steve easterbrook over a consensual relationship he had with an unnamed company employee. easterbrook also resigned from mcdonald's board and reportedly told employees in an email that he violated company policy on personal conduct. and daylight saving time may have ended early this morning. most people are tired of adjusting their clocks. a new poll shows that 7 1% of

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welcome back. we're exactly one year out from the 2020 general election.

and nearly half of americans surveyed, 49%, say they support impeaching president donald trump and removing him from office. up six points from our last poll earlier this month. joining me now, democratic congressman jim clyburn of south carolina. he's majority whip of the house of representatives. congressman, the leadership in the house which you are clearly a central part of, took its time to move toward impeachment inquiry and now it appears that it has started and the official vote has gone down, it's going into public hearings. and it has half of the american public, according to polls, supporting impeachment and in the same cases, i read, removal from office. this painstaking time that many of us felt to go this far in the

quarters that you are in, was it the right strategy, do you feel vindicated that the democrats took their time? what was going on, because there were many pushing, including me, that you guys should go forward and you took your time. >> well, thank you so much for having me. you're right. we did take our time. nancy pelosi made it very clear from the beginning of this process that we were going to take our times and get it right. you know, growing up down here in the south, there are little additives i grew up with, one i do remember, haste makes waste. we took our times because we did not want to waste our energy and do something that people would not understand and, therefore, we would be held responsible for doing what i would call

political malpractice, so what we tried to do is go slow, do what most of us are aware of, if you have a grand jury process, you got a special counsel process, you do that in private. it wasn't secret. it was in private. we had 47, i believe, republicans on those 3 committees that did all this in private. and once you do what needs to be done in private so you can protect the innocent and not have people besmirched because their names may come up into something, then you put together the process and then go public and we will be going public this week. we are going to release these transcripts this week. not the summary of transcripts, but transcripts. >> the actual transcripts, you're going to release the

actual transcripts. >> the actual transcripts of these hearings. there will be some people who would do summaries like we do, we summarize things, but the public will have access to the transcripts. i would hope that the white house will let the public have access to the transcripts that the president talk about reading in the fireside chat when he's holding in his hand a summary and we've heard testimony by a highly decorated, a formerly wounded what i call brave patriotic soldier saying that he tried to get words omitted from the transcript. he heard the summary, read the summary, said you're omitting words here, very important words. he couldn't get them to put the words back in. so i think the public needs to a be aware that this president is

once again believing he can say anything he wants to say and people will believe it and can read anything he wants to read and people will accept it, but we in our caucus are going to be honest and open with the american people and have a transparent process that everybody can feel a part of and hopefully will agree with us that what we did needed to be done. >> let me go back to what you just said, you are saying, you're challenging that the white house and the president ought to release the transcripts of the call with the president zelensky of ukraine while the house is going to release the transcripts of the testimonies and depositions that have thus far happening? you're saying we're being transparent, president rather than fireside chats, he should come and release the transcripts since a war hero has said there were major parts in the summation they released that were omitted from what he heard

on the actual phone conversation between the president of ukraine and the president of the united states. >> that would be the honest and the honorable thing to do. that's exactly what i'm saying. and i think this white house is really playing the american people very, very cheap, selling them short by saying i need to sit by a fireplace and read it to you after i have selectively summarized it. >> now, let me bring you into the elections. south carolina -- >> sure. >> -- is going to be very critical and if anyone knows anything about politics, we see the polls in south carolina, but i -- which now has joe biden way ahead, 30% for biden, 19% for warren, sanders at 13%. 11% for harris.

9% for buttigieg. 5% for styi isteyer and on and . as someone who ran for senate in the south carolina primary, no one has their finger on the pulse in south carolina better than jim clyburn. how -- what are you hearing and what are you feeling? i know you haven't made an endorseme endorsement. what are you feeling the type of candidate will succeed in south carolina and will it be impacted by what happens in iowa, in new hampshire, that immediately proceeds it? >> thank you very much for adding that to this equation. when people ask me about south carolina, i tell them and i believe in this instance that those polls are pretty accurate. in fact, i really believe there are some people who are doing a little bit better than those polls reflect. i don't know what the timeframe may be for those polls, but i also know that what happens in iowa, new hampshire, and nevada, could very well have an impact

here in south carolina. for instance, i tell people all the time, barack obama won the south carolina primary back in 2008 on the night that he won the iowa caucuses. i believe that jimmy carter really made himself a credible candidate because of his showing in iowa. i also remember gephardt went into iowa with high expectations and, of course, he finished fourth or fifth or something like that and that was the end of his candidacy. so, sure, what happens in those early caucuses and primaries could have an impact here on south carolina voters. that's why we fought so hard to get diversity in the so-called pre-pry miimary window. we wanted to see, iowa, have your caucus, new hampshire, have your primary, but we wanted to have unions and people of color

reflected in this, so that's why we fought for two more contests. a new caucus in nevada where you have high union participation and significant latino participation, and have a primary in south carolina where african-americans are very well represented. so we can come up with a candidate that reflect more of what the democratic electorate is all about. and so i think that we would be less than honest with people if we did not admit that here in south carolina, voters will look at who does well in iowa. in every instance, people got a first choice, second, and third choices. and so if you see your second choice doing extremely well in these early contests, you might go to a second choice by the

time it gets down to two, three, weeks later. >> all right. thank you very being with us. always good to have you, congressman -- >> thank you. >> -- jim clyburn. coming up, prisoners in california are on the front lines frantically helping fight the state's rampant wildfires, but they're receiving very little in return. i'll explain, next. when you shop with wayfair, you spend less and get way more. so you can bring your vision to life and save in more ways than one.

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for this week's "gotcha," returning our eyes to california which is currently suffering as multiple wildfires burn thousands of acres of land and as high winds literally fan the flames. things are so dire there that today the president actually took time away from his incoherent tweeting about impeachment to post absolute nonsense about the situation. i won't waste my breath repeating it. as wildfires have increased in frequency and severity over the last few years, california has bolstered its firefighting ranks with prison inmates.

the state pays incarcerated people as little as $1 per hour to put their lives on the line. and once they've served their time and are out free, they are barred from finding work as firefighters. even though they receive the same training and experience as any other firefighter in the state. san bernardino assemblywoman eloise reyes introduced a bill to rectify this way way back in february, and you think our fellow lawmakers would jump at the chance to get more qualified firefighters on the ground in the midst of such an emergency. but there hasn't been any movement on the bill since it was introduced. potentially because of objections from the state's firefighters union. i wonder if race has anything to do with it. you know, 85% of firefighters in the u.s. are white and fewer than 8% are black.

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welcome back to "politicsnation." we are now 100 days out from the new hampshire primary. and a new nbc/"wall street journal" poll out today shows just how close the race is getting among the top three candidates. joe biden is maintaining his lead nationally but has dropped four points since september. elizabeth warren is not far behind. just outside of the margin of error. but also the poll indicates bernie sanders is the only candidate in the top three picking up momentum, gaining five points since our last survey in september. joining me now is national press secretary for the 2020 bernie sanders campaign, brianna joy

gray. mr. sanders, senator sanders, has gone up five points in this poll. does this say to the sanders campaign despite the health scare that many felt would hurt his campaign, that he's not only recovering physically but politically it seems like it has not had an impact, in fact, he's, according to this poll, gaining support. >> i think that it does. i think momentum is the name of the game. look, i think what happened with the health scare, a lot of folks realized how irreplaceable bernie sanders really is. when we talk about this movement that's happening and the enthusiasm around so many of these popular policies like medicare for all have kind of made their way across all of the other candidates in the race, it has not escaped the people who are committed to this movement and who rate medicare for all as a priority for them. including black women who according to a recent "essence" poll have said health care is the number one priority for them. that bernie sanders is the

person most trusted to carry over the movement across the finish line. >> we're hearing the debate between buttigieg and warren on medicare for all or medicare how you want it. and kind of moving sanders out of that debate. how does bernie sanders deal with the liz warren race that is competing with him for what is perceived as left of center voters? >> i might character it as the other competing with him for the space which he very come fadomi holds. 30% of americans see bernie sanders as the person they trust most with the issues they care about and far and away the case when it comes to medicare for all. we're talk bing about who's defining this conversation, who's forced to respond to bernie sanders and not only the agenda, but just the plan but an actual legislation that he's put out and that many of the other candidates in the race have signed on to, bernie sanders is still the one people trust and setting the pace here. >> now, you mentioned black women. >> uh-huh.

>> bernie sanders in '16 had very serious -- i won't say serious, he had problems with black voters. and he's tried to really deal a lot more aggressively with going after the black vote this time around. i know i've talked to him often. i've seen him around. he's done a lot of the gatherings, but it doesn't reflect in the poll. how does bernie sanders do even -- he's up more than he was. but how does he do more with black voters? we just had south carolina congressman jim clyburn on. he's got to deal with the black vote, bernie does, in south carolina. what's the plan? >> absolutely. look, i want to be really clear about this. bernie sanders is number two among all people in this race right now with black voters. that's not to say he's going to rest on his laurels. we had picked up an enormous amount of endorsements from south carolina. he's been spending a lot of time in the state as have some powerful surrogates like nina turn and phillip agnew, very

trusted in the black community. i think a lot of what you saw in 2016 was a matter of name recognition. he was a senator from a small state a lot of people weren't familiar with and seeing enthusiasm in large part because he's a national figure and someone who as i mentioned is leading the way on issues in which black women have said they care about the most including health care. >> what is going to be the bernie sanders we see in the next debate? is it going to be bernie sanders taking on elizabeth warren and buttigieg and biden? or is it going to be the bernie sanders that just preaches his populist message? i'm not being critical saying preaching because i am a preacher. i have appreciation for the art. sk >> i thank think what you're going to see is the bernie sanders who takes on the establishment. yes, it might catch a little bit of heat. the reality is bernie sanders is

someone who's always defined himself by his own agenda, not someone who's kind of easily drawn into muck raking or personal assault or anything like that with other candidates. the reality is the power set, the interests that aligned themselves against the american people, made it known bernie sanders is the candidate they like the least and going to continue to call them out and run a campaign that isn't afraid to say the private insurance company, the industry, is the reason why we have 30 million to 40 million people dying from a lack of health care every month. that those -- the wealthiest country in the world to have 500,000 homeless people in the country, 500,000 people going bankrupt from medical issues. these are the kind of issues they're going to continue to call out without being distracted -- >> the same time he's running against the president, he's running to be the establishment of the president. how does he thread that needle with those moderate voters that he will have to deal with in the general election if he happens to be the nominee? >> so i think it's a misnomer to

say that moderate voters, the average american voter, doesn't support progressive policies. what we've seen in some polls is that 70% of americans, for instance, support medicare for all including 52% of republicans. so the question isn't how do you win on a progressive platform, it's how do you keep from losing by ignoring the fact that overwhelming majorities of americans are -- love the idea of putting works on corporate boards, love the idea of medicare for all, love the idea of finally being able to get out from under the brick of $20,000 -- an average of $20,000 a year in premiums for an american family and instead being able to get free at point of service care. these are popular ideas, not to mention a green new deal, for instance. these are popular inside. anybody running away from those ideas is going it have a very hard time in a general. >> all right. brihana joy gray, press secretary for the bernie sanders campaign. a sister from brooklyn. who says bernie doesn't know who to send to al sharpton. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. up next, today marks one

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we are one year away from election day 2020, and a new nbc poll out today shows the candidate field narrowing. with all candidates outside of the top three in single-digit territory for more than -- on the implications of the latest polls, like to bring back my panel. republican strategist rina shah and former senior adviser to hillary clinton's 2016 campaign, adrienne elrod. adrienne, polls can be right or wrong, tricky, but it does give you a real perceived by those that are polled. what do these polls show you, how do those in single digits at the bottom break through, and will, in your opinion, mean that they're going to have to come out firing in the next debate at some of the top tier?

>> yeah, i mean, rev, you're exactly right. polls do shift and not always exactly accurate. what i do know, what's becoming mores more obvious, the race is beginning to gel. doesn't mean somebody polling at single digits can't emerge into the top-tier status. people are starting to form their opinions. rev, as you know very well, the dinner that took place in iowa this past weekend formally known as the jefferson jackson dinner is the time where it tends to be a turning point for the race. the candidates turn out. they have, build large audiences. many of them get entertainers to come. and in 2007, when it was hillary, obama, and john edwards, this is when the race started to shift for obama, where he got himself on the map and started to see his polling numbers increase. i think it's going to be interesting to see some of the polls after the dinner in iowa this past week and the next debate is important for some of

these people to really emerge into that top tier. but when it comes to iowa, organization is everything, as we all know. when it comes to places like south carolina, it's not a caucus state, it's a voting state. registering people to vote, voting early, getting your supporters out to make sure they turn out at the pole pols is ve important. there's a lot of different dynamics in place, but you have to do well in iowa, perform well, and you also have to do well in south carolina if you want to be the nominee of the democratic party. >> now, rina, the poll also shows joe biden in elizabeth warren, according to these polling numbers, could defeat president trump. and while he has been occupied, tweeting and going back and forward on the impeachment, are there any signs that they are concerned about who they may face in the november election if they survive impeachment? i mean, he's a guy that has used

hype all of his life. now he's gone from hype to being delusional when he talks about impeachment. is he being delusional about the fact that he can by any means be re-elected and these polls should be ignored, he's got this in hand? >> you know, rev, this is what i was most excited to talk to you about today, because this past week, a lot was happening in the conversations i had with republicans up and down the mid-atlantic seaboard and even in states out in the west like nevada and texas. some things have happened that have shifted in these conversations. and that's obviously that the impeachment inquiry is official. it's going to be public, and that makes republicans feel somehow more sure that their guy is okay. that the democrats are going to come out looking worse here. i heard a little bit of a rumble about that in the beginning, but now i think not just the

president's delusional, i think republicans who are not even very solidly with this president have had a taste of him for three years. they had a taste of this economy, and they're catching those white house talking points on defense and national security. and no matter the revolving door of the white house staff, i think where we are at is a very unusual point. you know where i stand. i have been on the show plenty of times talking about my leanings. i was very critical as an elected delegate in 2016 to the point of having my personal and professional life upended by trump delegates. and not being able to attend the rnc. >> and you're a republican. >> right, i have been called human scum by the united states president and that feels really unusual. >> couldn't that also backfire? suppose the public hearings, and we're out of time, but i want you and adrienne to quickly answer. couldn't republicans that are so sure, if the hearings turn the other way and there really is some very dramatic evidence, couldn't it backfire and make

those same people say that they're very disappointed because they are so sure that this is going to vindicate the president? it could backfire. >> i'm still not sure about that. everything i heard this week has made me feel like we're seeing a pivot here, that this president is almost above the law, as we have feared for so long. >> adrienne, could it backfire? >> yeah, rev, i think here's what's the most important thing to keep in mind. it may not backfire with his base, chat that i think is going to be with him no matter what happens, but it's backfiring among those soft swing voters, those independents, the 4% to 5% of swing voters that will decide this election. >> i have to leave it there, rina and adrienne, thank you both for being with me. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. ♪ (dramatic orchestra)

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leaders of national civil rights organizations in a meeting with mark zuckerberg of facebook, the co founder and ceo. facebook and zuckerberg has been under attack for saying they will not fact check political ads that goes on facebook. this, to many people, and certainly to those of us in this meeting with him, is not just an

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and facebook needs to face it. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next saturday at 5:00 p.m. eastern for a new live edition of "politics nation." up next, "meet the press" with chuck todd. this sunday, the impeachment inquiry. >> on this vote, the yeas are 232. the nays are 196. >> house democrats vote to take the next step on impeachment. >> this is a solemn moment. it's a sober moment. >> we are here because the facts compel us to be here. >> but republicans unanimously oppose it, denouncing it as a partisan exercise. >> this impeachment is not only an attempt to undo the last election. it's an attempt to influence the next one as well. >> and they predict president trump will survive a senate